Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-08-04 Thread TPJ
I have encountered some problems with PyGTK only when I was trying to install a PyGTK version that was different from the installed GTK+ version. When those both versions were the same, I had no problems at all. (Another problem with PyGTK is that it's installation is somewhat more complicated

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-25 Thread Jarek Zgoda
TPJ napisał(a): PyQt works equally well on both systems. I believe you. The problem is I don't like GPL. So, buy commercial license for Qt and PyQt. -- Jarek Zgoda http://jpa.berlios.de/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-25 Thread Peter Hansen
Torsten Bronger wrote: Marek Kubica [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have started GUIs in Python with wx, but after a short time I was annoyed how many things were buggy. I don't know why, but I fell from one bug to the other while programming one application. I'm very suprised. wxPython is still

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-25 Thread Marek Kubica
Hi! On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:16:01 +0200 Torsten Bronger wrote: I'm very suprised. wxPython is still that buggy? I read reports from 2000 about such observations, but they tried wxPython in a non-standard way, and the project has had 5 years to become more stable after all. Well, I don't

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-25 Thread Lonnie Princehouse
I haven't used PyGTK very much, so I can't comment on it. My last impression of GTK-on-Windows was that it wasn't very stable and didn't blend well with the Windows native look and feel, but that was a while ago and it has probably improved a great deal since then. I use wxPython, doing my

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread TPJ
I've used pygtk with success on windows. (...) [will] I be able to make an executable (using Py2Exe) of an application that uses PyGTK? Yes. So PyGTK is now my favourite. Better documentation, runs on Linux and Windows, the possibility to make an executable program with Py2Exe. It's enough

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread TPJ
PyQt works equally well on both systems. I believe you. The problem is I don't like GPL. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread TPJ
Thanks a lot! Now I know I can choose PyGTK. I really like it because of its rich documentation. You could also bundle the runtime DLLs with your py2exe'd application That's great. I think my clients will appreciate a single one executable. --

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Marek Kubica
Hello! AFAIK PyGTK doesn't look native on Win as well, but I don't care. It does have a nearly-native look and feel: http://gtk-wimp.sourceforge.net/screenshots/ And yes, the theme adjusts itself to Windows XP themes, so GTK+ apps look nearly like any other Windows Program. The native look and

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Marek Kubica [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello! AFAIK PyGTK doesn't look native on Win as well, but I don't care. [...] The native look and feel is not as good as the look and feel of wx but still really _much_ better than older versions of GTK. Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way?

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Marek Kubica
Hi! Am Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:47:30 +0200 schrieb Torsten Bronger: Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way? I had a look at wxPython yesterday and didn't like that it has been brought into the Python world nearly unchanged. You can see its non-Python origin clearly. How does PyGTK feel in this

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Marek Kubica [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I have started GUIs in Python with wx, but after a short time I was annoyed how many things were buggy. I don't know why, but I fell from one bug to the other while programming one application. I'm very suprised. wxPython is still

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Bryan
Torsten Bronger wrote: Besides, wxPython prepares for being included into the standard distribution. wow, i've never heard this said so explicitly. is there a reference link backing up this statement? i really really hope this is true. i'm very much in favor to see wx included in the

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 7/24/05, Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way? I had a look at wxPython yesterday and didn't like that it has been brought into the Python world nearly unchanged. You can see its non-Python origin clearly. How does PyGTK feel in this respect? There

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Dave Cook
On 2005-07-24, Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way? I find it more Pythonic than raw wxpython. However, the API still has the fingerprints of C programmers all over it. Compare the gtk's clunky treemodel/treeview API to Cocoa's elegant delegates.

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Tim Lesher
Yes, it's not that hard to get the native file dialogs, as described in the FAQ: http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/index.py?req=showfile=faq21.013.htp It would be nice if PyGTK had a knob for making it use win32 dialogs by default, though. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Paul Rubin
I've had miserable experiences trying to use WxPython or GTK under both RH9 and Fedora Core 3. There is some version skew between the installed versions of GTK and the WxWidgets on the distro site. I made some progress by installing an old version of GTK but there was still some problem. I

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Torsten Bronger wrote: Besides, wxPython prepares for being included into the standard distribution. wow, i've never heard this said so explicitly. is there a reference link backing up this statement? i really really hope this is true. i'm

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-24 Thread Robert Kern
Torsten Bronger wrote: As far as i know, there is nothing official. But I've read several times that it's the most likely candidate for a seconds GUI system for being included. I think you're reading *way* too much into people engaging in wishful thinking. -- Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-23 Thread Marek Kubica
Hello! How well does PyGTK run on Windows (98, 2K, XP)? How stable is it? Will I be able to make an executable (using Py2Exe) of an application that uses PyGTK? I _do_ like PyGTK on Windows. It works without problems. You can find a ready to use py2exe script on

PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-22 Thread TPJ
GUI's etc: PyGtk on Windows (...) So if someone develops mainly for X and just wants to make sure that it is not impossible to run on Windows, you can use PyGTK. (...), July 2nd, 1999 pyGTK on Windows (...) can i use pyGTK under Windows??? It's probably doable (...) but not worthy in my

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-22 Thread Sybren Stuvel
TPJ enlightened us with: I'd like to choose PyGTK (because of its rich documentation), but I'm not sure if PyGTK is stable on Windows... For now I know that wxPython runs well on Windows. Don't forget that wxPython looks like Mac on a Mac. That's important too :) Sybren -- The problem with

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-22 Thread Dave Cook
On 2005-07-22, TPJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7. (...) The pygtk (and gtk port in general) does not yet support threading on windows. (...) GTK 2.0 is supposed to fix it but support isn't available *yet*. (...) May 17 2002 Pretty sure this hasn't been the case for a long time. The current

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-22 Thread Jarek Zgoda
TPJ napisał(a): In the nearest future I will have to decide what to use: PyGTK or wxPython. I like those both APIs. wxPython has more widgets, but PyGTK seems to be faster. I can use them both for free (it's very important). My only concern is that although I'm doing development on Linux, I'd

Re: PyGTK or wxPython (not a flame war) on Windows

2005-07-22 Thread Neil Hodgson
One thing I don't like with GTK+ on Windows is that it uses GTK+ file dialogs rather than system file dialogs. wxWidgets uses file dialogs that appear very similar to the system dialogs. Depends on your customers but I don't think this is reasonable for most applications.