On 11 Okt., 09:56, lkcl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The role of Python is somewhat arbitrary. This could change only if
Python becomes a client side language executed by AVM,V8etc.
pyv8 -http://advogato.org/article/985.html
pyjs.py - standalone python-to-javascript compiler,
On Oct 15, 12:27 am, greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Boddie wrote:
there are a few things with
regard to layouts which are very difficult with Web technologies (and
aren't getting any easier, either) but which are almost trivial with
classic graphical user interface toolkits, and of
hello_loader.py is the main err um i just double-
checked, so i'd be able to advise you and... err... the problem i
described (with the GridTest) seems to have... gone away!!
There are lots of references to PyGTK classes in there.
yes, that's because i had started with the
Although using browser technologies for desktop applications is
interesting (and not new by any means), there are a few things with
regard to layouts which are very difficult with Web technologies (and
aren't getting any easier, either) but which are almost trivial with
classic graphical user
On Oct 13, 9:12 pm, Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lkcl wrote:
On Oct 11, 11:17 pm, Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lkcl wrote:
I got the impression that there is currently no Windows binary
available. Correct? If not, perhaps someone trustworthy will someday
donate one.
if there's a way to enforce the displaying of text - for the _text_
to say i need to be a total area of X in order to display my words.
if you make my width too small, i will _force_ my height to be larger
as i wrap the text.
just like an HTML p /p does.
... of course, i'm well aware of
On Oct 13, 9:59 pm, Orestis Markou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just want to say, thank you for a very enlightening writeup. You
should really post this somewhere that we can link to.
orestis, thank you for the encouragement. i did post it on my diary:
On 13 Okt, 23:59, Orestis Markou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just want to say, thank you for a very enlightening writeup. You
should really post this somewhere that we can link to.
Is this not good enough for you...?
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-October/511375.html
I don't
On Oct 13, 10:56 pm, David Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 13 October 2008 11:42, lkcl wrote:
i don't know if it _was_ detached from the layout, but it was
definitely still visible. see
http://pyjs.org/examples/gridtest/output/GridTest.html
for the example i was porting to
On Tuesday 14 October 2008 12:55, lkcl wrote:
hello_loader.py is the main err um i just double-
checked, so i'd be able to advise you and... err... the problem i
described (with the GridTest) seems to have... gone away!!
There are lots of references to PyGTK classes in there. Is
Paul Boddie wrote:
there are a few things with
regard to layouts which are very difficult with Web technologies (and
aren't getting any easier, either) but which are almost trivial with
classic graphical user interface toolkits, and of course there are
cases where the roles are reversed.
I've
On Oct 11, 11:17 pm, Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lkcl wrote:
I got the impression that there is currently no Windows binary
available. Correct? If not, perhaps someone trustworthy will someday
donate one.
sorry, terry, you deleted a bit too much context :)
so, assuming that you
the bottom line is: if you want a windows version of pywebkitgtk, i'm
happy to assist and advise anyone of the process- it should be quite
straightforward _if_ you have MSVC and follow the standard procedure,
but i'm not about to spend my own time and effort on providing a win32
port using
You can remove layouts from layouts with the QLayout.removeItem() method.
yes... it didn't work. a layout within a layout - i think it was a
QHorizontalLayout within a QGridLayout - didn't want to be removed.
it's probably a bug.
Was it detached from the layout, but still visible?
i
lkcl wrote:
On Oct 11, 11:17 pm, Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
lkcl wrote:
I got the impression that there is currently no Windows binary
available. Correct? If not, perhaps someone trustworthy will someday
donate one.
sorry, terry, you deleted a bit too much context :)
I was
Propad wrote:
the bottom line is: if you want a windows version of pywebkitgtk, i'm
happy to assist and advise anyone of the process- it should be quite
straightforward _if_ you have MSVC and follow the standard procedure,
but i'm not about to spend my own time and effort on providing a win32
Just want to say, thank you for a very enlightening writeup. You
should really post this somewhere that we can link to.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://orestis.gr/
On 11 Oct 2008, at 10:19, lkcl wrote:
On Sep 3, 4:34 pm, Michael Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So far, development of PyGUI
On Monday 13 October 2008 11:42, lkcl wrote:
i don't know if it _was_ detached from the layout, but it was
definitely still visible. see
http://pyjs.org/examples/gridtest/output/GridTest.html
for the example i was porting to pyqt4. each time i clicked Next, a
new set of N,N would be
3) Following the public rumor mill and the latest hype RIA i.e. the
merge of web- and desktop applications with systems like Adobe AIR,
JavaFX, Google Gears and MS Silverlight is the future of frontend
development. With the exception of IronPython and Silverlight, Python
hasn't even entered
The role of Python is somewhat arbitrary. This could change only if
Python becomes a client side language executed by AVM, V8 etc.
pyv8 - http://advogato.org/article/985.html
pyjs.py - standalone python-to-javascript compiler, see http://pyjs.org.
--
On Sep 17, 1:16 am, Todd Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Todd Whiteman wrote:
Mark Hammond's Python/Mozilla work has enabled products like Komodo,
Miro (Democracy) and the OLPC project to use Python as a major driver
for consistent cross-platform GUI applications.
Personally, I believe
On Sep 3, 4:34 pm, Michael Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So far, development of PyGUI seems to be a one-man effort, and it may
be slowed down by the attempt to develop the API and the
implementations concurrently. Could it be useful to uncouple the two,
such that the API would be specified
On Saturday 11 October 2008 11:19, lkcl wrote:
pyqt4 has the concept of layouts. a layout can be a horizontal
layout, vertical, grid, and you can even specify the percentage or
ratio of the width (or height) that individual cells can use. you
attach a layout to a widget; you can attach
On Oct 11, 3:31 pm, David Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 11 October 2008 11:19, lkcl wrote:
pyqt4 has the concept of layouts. a layout can be a horizontal
layout, vertical, grid, and you can even specify the percentage or
ratio of the width (or height) that individual cells
ofhttp://code.google.com, and you'll need to check out a revision some
time around sep 2007 of the llpamies branch.
rsrrmsrrwssrrfssnrssrr :)
http://code.google.com/p/pyjamas then follow through to svn
instructions, bearing in mind that, other than the llpamies branch,
that code is
On Saturday 11 October 2008 21:40, lkcl wrote:
On Oct 11, 3:31 pm, David Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can remove layouts from layouts with the QLayout.removeItem() method.
yes... it didn't work. a layout within a layout - i think it was a
QHorizontalLayout within a QGridLayout -
lkcl wrote:
I got the impression that there is currently no Windows binary
available. Correct? If not, perhaps someone trustworthy will someday
donate one.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Todd Whiteman wrote:
Mark Hammond's Python/Mozilla work has enabled products like Komodo,
Miro (Democracy) and the OLPC project to use Python as a major driver
for consistent cross-platform GUI applications.
Personally, I believe XULRunner has a lot to offer for Python GUI
development, I'm
On 10 sep, 20:36, Fred Pacquier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Todd Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said :
Personally, I believe XULRunner has a lot to offer for Python GUI
development, I'm currently finishing up some documentation steps to show
off how to use it specifically for Python (I'll post it
On 10 sep, 20:36, Fred Pacquier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Todd Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said :
Personally, I believe XULRunner has a lot to offer for Python GUI
development, I'm currently finishing up some documentation steps to show
off how to use it specifically for Python (I'll post it
Todd Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said :
Personally, I believe XULRunner has a lot to offer for Python GUI
development, I'm currently finishing up some documentation steps to show
off how to use it specifically for Python (I'll post it to this list
when it's finished).
That would be really
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Palmer schrieb:
As anyone knows, the state of Python GUI programming is a little
fractured at this time, with many toolkits, wrappers and meta-wrappers
dead and alive, with or without documentation.
I've come
Peter Decker schrieb:
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Palmer schrieb:
As anyone knows, the state of Python GUI programming is a little
fractured at this time, with many toolkits, wrappers and meta-wrappers
dead and alive, with or without
M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
A long time ago, there was a Python plugin for Netscape
which allowed you to run Python straight in the browser. Perhaps
it's time to revive such an idea... but then you're still missing
out on the GUI part, since you're still stuck with what the
browser has to offer in
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You got me wrong. I didn't say it doesn't use the native toolkit under
various OSes, I'm well aware of that it does.
What I *did* say was that wx API is designed primarily with windows' toolkit
as base, and as a
On 2008-09-04 07:49, Kay Schluehr wrote:
3) Following the public rumor mill and the latest hype RIA i.e. the
merge of web- and desktop applications with systems like Adobe AIR,
JavaFX, Google Gears and MS Silverlight is the future of frontend
development. With the exception of IronPython and
On 4 Sep., 10:31, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-09-04 07:49, Kay Schluehr wrote:
3) Following the public rumor mill and the latest hype RIA i.e. the
merge of web- and desktop applications with systems like Adobe AIR,
JavaFX, Google Gears and MS Silverlight is the future of
On 2008-09-04 11:14, Kay Schluehr wrote:
On 4 Sep., 10:31, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-09-04 07:49, Kay Schluehr wrote:
3) Following the public rumor mill and the latest hype RIA i.e. the
merge of web- and desktop applications with systems like Adobe AIR,
JavaFX, Google
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-09-04 11:14, Kay Schluehr wrote:
On 4 Sep., 10:31, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-09-04 07:49, Kay Schluehr wrote:
3) Following the public rumor mill and the latest hype RIA i.e. the
merge of
On 2008-09-04 12:57, Banibrata Dutta wrote:
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-09-04 11:14, Kay Schluehr wrote:
On 4 Sep., 10:31, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-09-04 07:49, Kay Schluehr wrote:
3) Following the public rumor mill
As anyone knows, the state of Python GUI programming is a little
fractured at this time, with many toolkits, wrappers and meta-wrappers
dead and alive, with or without documentation.
I've come across two projects that have the appeal of striving for
simple, pythonic APIs: PyGUI and wax. The
Michael Palmer schrieb:
As anyone knows, the state of Python GUI programming is a little
fractured at this time, with many toolkits, wrappers and meta-wrappers
dead and alive, with or without documentation.
I've come across two projects that have the appeal of striving for
simple, pythonic
On Sep 3, 12:57 pm, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Palmer schrieb:
The other, PyGUI, has an even nicer API and more docs but has
relatively few widgets implemented at this time. It also strives for
compatibility with several toolkits (two at this time), which I think
Michael Palmer schrieb:
I disagree with that. Meta-wrappers like this will always suffer from
problems, as they have difficulties providing a consistent api. For
example wx is said to be very windows-toolkit-centric in it's API. Yes I
know that it works under Linux with GTK, but it does not come
Michael Palmer wrote:
As anyone knows, the state of Python GUI programming is a little
fractured at this time, with many toolkits, wrappers and meta-wrappers
dead and alive, with or without documentation.
How about Dabo? http://www.dabodev.com/
--
--OKB (not okblacke)
Brendan
Michael Palmer wrote:
So far, development of PyGUI seems to be a one-man effort, and it may
be slowed down by the attempt to develop the API and the
implementations concurrently. Could it be useful to uncouple the two,
such that the API would be specified ahead of the implementation?
I'm not
On 3 Sep., 18:34, Michael Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As anyone knows, the state of Python GUI programming is a little
fractured at this time, with many toolkits, wrappers and meta-wrappers
dead and alive, with or without documentation.
A few thoughts.
1) This topic is discussed here
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