Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-05-06, dn wrote: > The problem with some of the advice given in this thread, eg using > StackOverflow or YouTube videos, is that a beginner (particularly) > has no measure of the material's quality. Both platforms are riddled > with utter-junk - even 'dangerous' advice. And the "quality

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-07 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 3:29 AM Peter J. Holzer wrote: > > On 2022-05-07 14:07:53 +1200, Greg Ewing wrote: > > On 7/05/22 12:27 pm, Stefan Ram wrote: > > >So, one might actually be able to learn the pronunciation > > >of a foreign language from text in a book better than from > > >an

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-07 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2022-05-07 14:07:53 +1200, Greg Ewing wrote: > On 7/05/22 12:27 pm, Stefan Ram wrote: > >So, one might actually be able to learn the pronunciation > >of a foreign language from text in a book better than from > >an audio tape (or an audio file or a video with sound)! > > Such books

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-06 Thread Greg Ewing
On 7/05/22 12:27 pm, Stefan Ram wrote: But when you read descriptions in books about phonology about how the mouth and tongue is positioned to produce certain sounds and see pictures of this, your faulty ears are bypassed and you get a chance to produce the correct sounds of the

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-06 Thread dn
To the OP: there are many MOOCs available on the likes of the Coursera and edX platform. (rationale, below) Disclaimer: I work on courses on the edX platform (but not Python). On 06/05/2022 23.37, o1bigtenor wrote: > As we're now discussing tutorial methods - - - - > > On Thu, May 5, 2022 at

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-06 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
Original Message- From: 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com To: python-list@python.org Sent: Fri, May 6, 2022 8:56 am Subject: Re: Python/New/Learn On 2022-05-05 at 16:51:49 -0700, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-05-05, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > Without having any data at all o

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-06 Thread 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE
On 2022-05-05 at 16:51:49 -0700, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-05-05, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > Without having any data at all on it, just my impressions, more > > people these days learn from in-person or video experiences. > > I've always been utterly baffled by video tutorials for >

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-06 Thread o1bigtenor
As we're now discussing tutorial methods - - - - On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 8:57 PM Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 09:53, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > > On 2022-05-05, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > > > Without having any data at all on it, just my impressions, more > > > people these

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 09:53, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-05-05, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > Without having any data at all on it, just my impressions, more > > people these days learn from in-person or video experiences. > > I've always been utterly baffled by video tutorials for >

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-05-05, Mats Wichmann wrote: > Without having any data at all on it, just my impressions, more > people these days learn from in-person or video experiences. I've always been utterly baffled by video tutorials for programming. There must be people who prefer that format, but it seems

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-05 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
asking if I want to sell my house ... -Original Message- From: Schachner, Joseph To: Patrick 0511 ; python-list@python.org Sent: Thu, May 5, 2022 12:04 pm Subject: RE: Python/New/Learn Buy the book "Python 101" and do the examples.  When you're done with that buy the book &

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-05 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 5/4/22 19:36, Patrick 0511 wrote: > Hello, I'm completely new here and don't know anything about python. Can > someone tell me how best to start? So what things should I learn first? If you know what kinds of learning experiences work best for you, that might help. For some people, books, or

RE: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-05 Thread Schachner, Joseph
ential; Commercially Sensitive Business Data -Original Message- From: Patrick 0511 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 9:36 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Python/New/Learn Hello, I'm completely new here and don't know anything about python. Can someone tell me how best to start? So what things

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-05 Thread Alan Gauld
On 05/05/2022 02:36, Patrick 0511 wrote: > Hello, I'm completely new here and don't know anything about python. Do you know any other programming languages? That makes a huge difference in what you should start with! > Can someone tell me how best to start? > So what things should I learn

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
: python-list@python.org Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 11:21 pm Subject: Re: Python/New/Learn On Thu, 5 May 2022 at 13:14, Avi Gross wrote: > > Chris, > > It was an extremely open-ended question to a forum where > most of the readers are more advanced, at least I think. > > > My libr

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, 5 May 2022 at 13:14, Avi Gross wrote: > > Chris, > > It was an extremely open-ended question to a forum where > most of the readers are more advanced, at least I think. > > > My library has oodles of Python Books for free to borrow on paper and > return and I have read many of them. There

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
@python.org Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 11:02 pm Subject: Re: Python/New/Learn On Thu, 5 May 2022 at 12:57, Avi Gross via Python-list wrote: > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks > That's an incredibly daunting list, and not something I'd overly strongly recommend, but yes, if you want to g

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Dan Stromberg
If you already know at least one other imperative programming language: https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers If you don't: https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 7:49 PM Patrick 0511 wrote: > Hello, I'm completely new here and

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, 5 May 2022 at 12:57, Avi Gross via Python-list wrote: > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks > That's an incredibly daunting list, and not something I'd overly strongly recommend, but yes, if you want to get a dead-tree or e-book to read, there are quite a lot of options available.

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Avi Gross via Python-list
https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonBooks -Original Message- From: Patrick 0511 To: python-list@python.org Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 9:36 pm Subject: Python/New/Learn Hello, I'm completely new here and don't know anything about python. Can someone tell me how best to start? So what things

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, 5 May 2022 at 12:49, Patrick 0511 wrote: > > Hello, I'm completely new here and don't know anything about python. Can > someone tell me how best to start? So what things should I learn first? > I'd start right here with the tutorial! https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/ Most important

Python/New/Learn

2022-05-04 Thread Patrick 0511
Hello, I'm completely new here and don't know anything about python. Can someone tell me how best to start? So what things should I learn first? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list