RE: Python advocacy . HELP!

2008-12-24 Thread Sells, Fred
s+frsells=adventistcare@python.org] On > Behalf Of Michael_D_G > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:52 AM > To: python-list@python.org > Subject: Python advocacy . HELP! > > > I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in > our intro to programming course

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
"Tim Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try asking "Are we teaching computer science, so that the students > will be able to cope with whatever they meet once they graduate, or > are we teaching computer programming, in a couple of specific > languages, so that the students will be completely unp

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Tim Rowe
2008/12/4 Michael_D_G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in > our intro to programming course. I am teaching this class and it seems > to me that we would be much better served teaching python in the intro > course, C++ for Data structures, as

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Cousin Stanley
> > I have looked at several interesting academic papers, on doing just > this approach. I have also looked through the > python web page to get examples of industry players using python in a > non-trivial way. Yes, I know, Google, Microsoft, Sun, CIA website > running on Plone, NOAA, NASA.

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Sebastian Kaliszewski
Michael_D_G wrote: how do I refute the notion that Python is a "marginal" language because according to TOBIE it only less than a 6% market share. According to the same TIOBE, C++ has less than 11%. So it must be niche then as well :) -- "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" --

Re: Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-04 Thread Jeremiah Dodds
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Michael_D_G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in > our intro to programming course. I am teaching this class and it seems > to me that we would be much better served teaching python in the intro > course,

Python advocacy ... HELP!

2008-12-03 Thread Michael_D_G
I am a faculty member of a cs department. We currently teach C++ in our intro to programming course. I am teaching this class and it seems to me that we would be much better served teaching python in the intro course, C++ for Data structures, as we do now, and Java in object oriented programming,