Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-06-01 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:43 -0700, John Nagle wrote: The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. As a result, almost all hosting providers are running obsolete versions of Python. The big problem seems to be that cPanel and yum still use older versions of

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Torrie
On 05/31/2010 05:13 AM, Jason D wrote: There is however never been an issue to locate different version of python in your system as you deem fit without problems. So I dont understand why your concern. Actually, replacing python on RHEL is a major endeavor. Almost all Red Hat utilities are

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-06-01 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/01/2010 05:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Yes, we install Python 2.6 on CentOS and run a production app on it - no problems. rpm -Uvh http://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/Redhat/5/i386/ius-release-1-4.ius.el5.noarch.rpm yum -y install python26 python26-setuptools Thanks for

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-06-01 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:43 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: On 05/31/2010 05:13 AM, Jason D wrote: There is however never been an issue to locate different version of python in your system as you deem fit without problems. So I dont understand why your concern. Actually, replacing python

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-06-01 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:55 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: On 06/01/2010 05:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Yes, we install Python 2.6 on CentOS and run a production app on it - no problems. rpm -Uvh

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-06-01 Thread John Nagle
Michael Torrie wrote: On 05/31/2010 05:13 AM, Jason D wrote: There is however never been an issue to locate different version of python in your system as you deem fit without problems. So I dont understand why your concern. Actually, replacing python on RHEL is a major endeavor. Almost all

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-31 Thread Jason D
The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. As a result, almost all hosting providers are running obsolete versions of Python. The big problem seems to be that amp;quot;cPanelamp;quot; and amp;quot;yumamp;quot; still use older versions of Python, and those

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-31 Thread Philip Semanchuk
On May 31, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Jason D wrote: The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. As a result, almost all hosting providers are running obsolete versions of Python. The big problem seems to be that amp;quot;cPanelamp;quot; and amp;quot;yumamp;quot; still

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-31 Thread John Nagle
Philip Semanchuk wrote: Hi Jason, CentOS is based on RHEL SRPMs. How could it ship a more advanced version of Python than RHEL? I have CentOS 5.4 installed, and it only offers Python 2.4.3. And distrowatch.org backs this up -- the latest Python available for Centos 5.x is 2.4:

Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread John Nagle
The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. As a result, almost all hosting providers are running obsolete versions of Python. The big problem seems to be that cPanel and yum still use older versions of Python, and those programs are more important to distro

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread Paul Rubin
John Nagle na...@animats.com writes: The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. Fedora 12 ships with Python 2.6, I think. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread Wesley Brooks
I've got Fedora 10 here with 2.5, and 11 at the office with 2.6. On 29 May 2010 19:58, Paul Rubin no.em...@nospam.invalid wrote: John Nagle na...@animats.com writes:   The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. Fedora 12 ships with Python 2.6, I think. --

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread Philip Semanchuk
On May 29, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: John Nagle na...@animats.com writes: The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. Fedora 12 ships with Python 2.6, I think. Fedora has been shipping with Python 2.6 since F11 release in June of 2009, and

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Wesley Brooks wesbro...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 May 2010 19:58, Paul Rubin no.em...@nospam.invalid wrote: John Nagle na...@animats.com writes:   The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. Fedora 12 ships with Python 2.6, I think.

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread John Nagle
Philip Semanchuk wrote: On May 29, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: John Nagle na...@animats.com writes: The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. Fedora 12 ships with Python 2.6, I think. Fedora has been shipping with Python 2.6 since F11 release in

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sat, 29 May 2010 11:43:29 -0700 John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: The major Red Hat based Linux distros are still shipping with Python 2.4. Is anybody trying to do something about this? Other than not running Linux on our hosting server? My ISP (http://www.Vex.Net) runs FreeBSD.

Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread Someone Something
Redhat as always believed in (sorry if this offends anyone): Use legacy stuff that works, we don't really give a flying hoot if the rest of the world has moved on On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 6:55 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote: On Sat, 29 May 2010 11:43:29 -0700 John Nagle

Re: Python vs. Fedora and CentOS

2010-05-29 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
And since they're using legacy stuff that works from 3 years ago (no one upgrades major versions of software in a minor release- hence Win XP SP3 still coming with IE 6), it's no wonder that they're still on 2.4. On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Someone Something fordhai...@gmail.com wrote: