Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-18 Thread Michael Ströder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I have started a collaborative project to make a user contributed Python documentation. The wiki is online here: http://www.pythondocs.info Frankly I'm tired of these yet-another-wiki announcements! Who is supposed to fill them with content? If you have

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-18 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means. Where have

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-18 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Rakotomandimby (R12y) wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:43:41 +0200, Daniel Nogradi wrote: Then how about running your site on python and not php? PHP has better documentation... ;-) More seriously, I can provide a CPS hosting to nicolasfr if he wants. Alert ! Unusable undocumented monstruosity

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-18 Thread Laurent Pointal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-18 Thread Laurent Pointal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Christoph Haas
On Sunday 17 September 2006 04:31, Brad Allen wrote: Here is an idea for improving Python official documentation: Provide a tab-based interface for each entry, with the overview/summary at the top-level, with a row of tabs underneath: 1. Official documentation, with commentary posted

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Brad Allen
Rakotomandimby (R12y) wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 12:30:56 -0700, Robert Hicks wrote: That said...the Python docs are open source. Just start going through them and adding examples. ASPN (activestate) is a good place for examples... Yes, but that requires a separate search and depends on

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Daniel Nogradi
That said...the Python docs are open source. Just start going through them and adding examples. ASPN (activestate) is a good place for examples... Yes, but that requires a separate search and depends on an external organization. Wouldn't it be great if relevant examples were a single

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread ernesto . adorio
Somehow all of the above discussions did not mention having examples or demos built-in for the language itself: majorfunction.example() demo(package) or package.demo() search engine in local html documentation apropos() The statistical software R is bettter in this respect if

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Fuzzyman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Kay Schluehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Brad Allen
Kay Schluehr wrote: Personally, I never found the Python docs particular bad. It is rewarding to write good documentation because documentation has different aspects i.e. introductory/tutorial, exhaustive/manual and design documentation aspects. Not to mention cookbook recipes. I also

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:10:51 +0200, Daniel Nogradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start a new one. What would be very useful though is more visible links on the python.org site to the activestate repository where appropriate. I'm not sure the pyhon.org people would want to promote

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Brad Allen
A.M. Kuchling wrote: However, this code isn't used at the moment because I have no idea what to do about version controlling the links. Do we just use the current links whenever the HTML is generated? Make a copy of the list and commit them into SVN, so the links cease to be updated but are

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Calvin Spealman
On 9/17/06, A.M. Kuchling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:10:51 +0200, Daniel Nogradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start a new one. What would be very useful though is more visible links on the python.org site to the activestate repository where appropriate. I'm not

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-17 Thread Kay Schluehr
Brad Allen wrote: A.M. Kuchling wrote: However, this code isn't used at the moment because I have no idea what to do about version controlling the links. Do we just use the current links whenever the HTML is generated? Make a copy of the list and commit them into SVN, so the links

Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread nicolasfr
Hi, I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means. That's why I have

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means. Where have you read that? wildemar --

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread nicolasfr
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means. Where have you read that?

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Christoph Haas
On Saturday 16 September 2006 19:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Robert Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means.

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Rakotomandimby (R12y)
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:40:43 -0700, nicolasfr wrote: I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means. Where have you read that?

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Robert Hicks
Christoph Haas wrote: On Saturday 16 September 2006 19:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I second that the Python documentation is lacking. There is no software that is adequately documented anyway. Show me a man page of a Perl module and it takes me minutes to use it. I would say that Perl

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Leif K-Brooks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it means.

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread nicolasfr
Rakotomandimby (R12y) wrote: What you should have done first is to suggest to contribute to the official Python doc. I wrote an email a few months ago to the Python docs support email address to offer my help but never got any answer. Then, if you encounter too much dumbs (and only in that

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Daniel Nogradi
Everytime I am lookink at how to do this or that in Python I write it down somewhere on my computer. (For ex. Threading. After reading the official documentation I was a bit perplex. Hopefully I found an article an managed to implement threads with only like 20 lines of code in my script.

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rakotomandimby (R12y) wrote: What you should have done first is to suggest to contribute to the official Python doc. I wrote an email a few months ago to the Python docs support email address to offer my help but never got any answer. What did that email say? -

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would like to see more than one source.. Not that the documentation is good or bad it is just that different people may come up with different ways to explain the same thing and that is good in my view. I would like to see the re module and the string module with as many examples as humanly

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a bit disapointed with the current Python online documentation. I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Rakotomandimby (R12y)
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:43:41 +0200, Daniel Nogradi wrote: Then how about running your site on python and not php? PHP has better documentation... ;-) More seriously, I can provide a CPS hosting to nicolasfr if he wants. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Rakotomandimby (R12y)
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 12:30:56 -0700, Robert Hicks wrote: That said...the Python docs are open source. Just start going through them and adding examples. ASPN (activestate) is a good place for examples... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-09-16 18:40 +0100) Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read many messages of people complaining about the documentation, it's lack of examples and the use of complicated sentences that you need to read 10 times before understanding what it

Re: Pythondocs.info : collaborative Python documentation project

2006-09-16 Thread Brad Allen
Here is an idea for improving Python official documentation: Provide a tab-based interface for each entry, with the overview/summary at the top-level, with a row of tabs underneath: 1. Official documentation, with commentary posted at the bottom (ala Django documentation) 2.