On 2021-02-06, Barry wrote:
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>> On 6 Feb 2021, at 08:06, Grant Edwards wrote:
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>> On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote:
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>>> Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is
>>> quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability
>>> is
> On 6 Feb 2021, at 08:06, Grant Edwards wrote:
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> On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote:
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>> Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is
>> quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability
>> is PyScripter. Completely free, downloadable from
On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote:
> Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is
> quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability
> is PyScripter. Completely free, downloadable from SourceForge, 32
> or 64 bit versions (must match your Python
On 2/5/2021 3:34 AM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote:
While print() is groovy and all,
if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based)
please let me know.
There are many. But why must it be non-pdb? That seems
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 01:27:34AM +, flaskee via Python-list wrote:
On Friday, February 5, 2021 5:03 PM, Schachner, Joseph
wrote:
As regards the Alan pdb note; yes -- I was trying for
a full IDE & integrated debugging,
along the lines of Visual Studio, pre-sneaky-Telemetry API.
You do
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On Friday, February 5, 2021 5:03 PM, Schachner, Joseph
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> capability is PyScripter.
> Completely free, downloadable from SourceForge
Thank you.
I just wanted to add, that it is here as well:
https://github.com/pyscripter
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On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote:
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> While print() is groovy and all,
> if an
On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote:
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> While print() is groovy and all,
> if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based)
> please let me know.
>
There are many. But why must it be non-pdb? That seems rather arbitrary.
Or do you really mean you want a
On 27/01/2021 19:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote:
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> While print() is groovy and all,
> if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based)
> please let me know.
>
> I too was blessed with IDE-based debugging (in the 90's!)
> * where you can set break point(s);
> *
>
> > Python is an interactive language. You can develop a lot while working
> > on a Python console. Then copy and paste into a program.
>
> Absolutely, the humble interactive prompt is often overlooked
> as a development tool. It's not as good as the "evaluate
> expression" tool in the Smalltalk
On 27/01/2021 19:27, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> Python is an interactive language. You can develop a lot while working
> on a Python console. Then copy and paste into a program.
Absolutely, the humble interactive prompt is often overlooked
as a development tool. It's not as good as the
You're most welcome flaskee, however I would recommend you try them all.
Thonny in particular because it distinguishes line from expression which I
believe is a unique feature.
Personally I have learned to love just pdb, and a whiteboard!
Le mer. 27 janv. 2021 à 23:03, flaskee a écrit :
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>
Thank you J. Pic.
Out of everything today,
(and given my priority is Python/Flask debugging)
it looks like Wing IDE is something to dig into.
Thanks
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On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:09 PM, J. Pic wrote:
> Thonny,
Thonny, winpdb/winpdb-rebord, eric4, pudb, web-pdb, vy, mu, netbeans,
eclipse, pdbpp...
Also see: https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDebuggingTools
"Changing a variable" -> that's basically evaluating code ? -> supported in
all debuggers I suppose
--
My experience with IntelliJ (related to PyCharm): it scans all source
files in the project, compiles them, graphs all dependencies, compiles
those (if necessary) or inspects their class bytecode, and so on to
build a full graph in memory to support showing errors in real time
(highlighting in
I meant bottom right corner, not left. opps!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:36 PM C W wrote:
> I don't know exactly, but it shows as inspection on the bottom left corner.
>
> I believe it's indexing in the background.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:25 PM Grant Edwards
> wrote:
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>> On 2021-01-27, C
I don't know exactly, but it shows as inspection on the bottom left corner.
I believe it's indexing in the background.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:25 PM Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2021-01-27, C W wrote:
> > I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python
> > programming.
On 2021-01-27, C W wrote:
> I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python
> programming.
>
> I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the
> background, even after I turned that feature off.
What is it scanning?
> My favorite (I'm using
" also started background scanning, but that's generally done in 30 seconds."
Do we know what PyCharm is background scanning for?
Do we know what VS Code is scanning for?
I've been leery of VS* things since 2013, when Microsoft (secretly) changed
their VS compiler, so that every single .exe,
On 27.01.2021 20:07, C W wrote:
I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python
programming.
I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the
background, even after I turned that feature off.
My favorite (I'm using now) is VS Code with Python
I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python
programming.
I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the
background, even after I turned that feature off.
My favorite (I'm using now) is VS Code with Python extension, it's very
light.
PyCharm has all these debugging capabilities and there is a community edition
that you can use for free. If you earn for the living with Python it is worth
investing in professional edition though.
Michał Jaworski
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