Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-24 Thread Steve Holden
Carroll, Barry wrote: Greetings: Personally, I don't think top-posting is the most annoying newsgroup habit. I think it's making a big fuss about minor inconveniences. One of the nicest things about being human is the amazing flexibility of our brains. For example, if a block of text

RE: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
::CLAP CLAP:: thank you! I have been in the newsgroups for over 12 years and I never cared about the top/bottom post silliness. All I care about is that the message is clearly written. Everything else is doggerel. -Original Message- From: Carroll, Barry Personally, I don't

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread Dane Jensen
On Friday 19 January 2007 22:51, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps I should say: .snoitnevnoc hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM ton ,puorgswen egaugnal hsilgnE na no er'ew ,segaugnal hcus era ereht fi neve tuB

RE: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | My thanks to Aahz and the others who responded. I also did some | Googling on my own. I found out that top-posting is the norm in the | e-mail world. Bottom- and inline-posting are the norm in the newsgroup | world.

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-01-20, Nick Maclaren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | My thanks to Aahz and the others who responded. I also did some | Googling on my own. I found out that top-posting is the norm in the | e-mail world. Bottom- and

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread rzed
Dane Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 19 January 2007 22:51, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps I should say: .snoitnevnoc hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM ton ,puorgswen egaugnal

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread Roel Schroeven
Paul Rubin schreef: No. Top posting has always been an aberrance. It first appeared in Usenet when Usenet (a word whose etymology comes from Unix and network) started attracting Microsoft Windows users, who were in the habit of using Windows products that top-posted. That happened fairly

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread Roel Schroeven
Carroll, Barry schreef: Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like to see it. You see, I recently returned to Usenet after a LONG absence. When I was last a regular Usenet citizen the Internet

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread John Machin
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Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I don't think top-posting is the most annoying newsgroup habit. I think it's making a big fuss about minor inconveniences. =20 Thing is, nobody will ignore your posts for following standard Usenet conventions, but

RE: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Carroll, Barry
-list@python.org Subject: Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack) In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I don't think top-posting is the most annoying newsgroup habit. I think it's making a big fuss about minor inconveniences. =20

RE: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Nick Maclaren
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that | mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like | to see it. You see, I recently returned to Usenet after a LONG absence. |

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Jerry Hill
On 1/19/07, Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like to see it. For what (very little) it's worth, see RFC 1855. -- Jerry --

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like to see it. You see, I recently returned to Usenet after a LONG absence. When I was

RE: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Friday 19/1/2007 18:43, Carroll, Barry wrote: Secondly, can someone point me to the Standard Usenet Convention that mandates against top-posting. This is not sarcasm; I would really like to see it. There are some guidelines, like RFC 1855 (not a real standard, or enforced in any way):

RE: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Carroll, Barry
-Original Message- From: Aahz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:29 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack) In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Secondly, can

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:20:26 -0800, Carroll, Barry wrote: It took me about 3 seconds to realize that Mr. D'Aprano' QA session was laid out bottom-to-top instead of top-to-bottom. After that, it made perfect sense. Three seconds, compared to about thirty milliseconds if it were written in the

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread gonzlobo
I should write a python script to read this. :) .snoitnevnoc hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM ton ,puorgswen egaugnal hsilgnE na no er'ew ,segaugnal hcus era ereht fi neve tuB -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Paul Rubin
Carroll, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I was last a regular Usenet citizen the Internet was new, GUI interfaces were experimental and the World Wide Web didn't exist yet. Newsreader software was text-based. Top-posting was the common practice, because it was the most convenient. No.

Re: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-19 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps I should say: .snoitnevnoc hsilgnE tpada )ylbissop revenehw( dluohs ew os dna ,naitraM ton ,puorgswen egaugnal hsilgnE na no er'ew ,segaugnal hcus era ereht fi neve tuB First I thought it was Welsh or Cornish or something. Then it was