Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-22 Thread Steve Holden
Magnus Lycka wrote: > Ben Finney wrote: > >>Leif K-Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >Ben Finney wrote: > >>So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, >>or a derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect >>on what license you choose fo

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-22 Thread Magnus Lycka
Ben Finney wrote: > Leif K-Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, > or a derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect > on what license you choose for your own work. > >> I was reply

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread Ben Finney
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > Write your program in Python, and you can ignore the Python > > license when you distribute your own work. We'd love to see you > > distribute it under a free software license, but the license of > > Python has no legal effect on you

RE: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread Delaney, Timothy (Tim)
Steve Holden wrote: > Given that many people distribute (enough of) the interpreter with > their Python programs I wouldn't like the above to be regarded as a > blanket statement that the Python license doesn't have to be > considered when distributing the interpreter with program source. In prac

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread Steve Holden
Ben Finney wrote: [...] > That latter case is the only one for most interpreted Python programs: > no part of the library is in the source code of the Python program, so > the license of that library doesn't affect the licensing of the > program. > > Write your program in Python, and you can ignor

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Lambacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 09:46:13PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ben Finney schrieb: > > > > My claim (and IANAL) is that it doesn't matter *what* license > > > > Python is distributed under; unless y

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread Chris Lambacher
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 09:46:13PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ben Finney schrieb: > > > My claim (and IANAL) is that it doesn't matter *what* license > > > Python is distributed under; unless you do something with Python > > > that is a right of

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread Ben Finney
"Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney schrieb: > > My claim (and IANAL) is that it doesn't matter *what* license > > Python is distributed under; unless you do something with Python > > that is a right of the copyright holder, such as distributing part > > or all of Python, t

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Ben Finney schrieb: > Ben Finney wrote: > > So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, > > or a derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect > > on what license you choose for your own work. > > [SNIP] > > My claim (and

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-19 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Ben Finney schrieb: > Leif K-Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, > or a derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect > on what license you choose for your own work. > >> I was rep

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-18 Thread Ben Finney
Leif K-Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Ben Finney wrote: > >>> So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, > >>> or a derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect > >>> on what license you choose for your own work. > I was replying to Ben Finney's claim

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-18 Thread Leif K-Brooks
Steve Holden wrote: > Leif K-Brooks wrote: >> Ben Finney wrote: >> >>> So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, or a >>> derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect on what >>> license you choose for your own work. >> >> >> How many Python programs use nothin

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-18 Thread Steve Holden
Leif K-Brooks wrote: > Ben Finney wrote: > >>So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, or a >>derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect on what >>license you choose for your own work. > > > How many Python programs use nothing from the standard library?

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-18 Thread Leif K-Brooks
Ben Finney wrote: > So long as you're not distributing some or all of Python itself, or a > derivative work, the license for Python has no legal effect on what > license you choose for your own work. How many Python programs use nothing from the standard library? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-18 Thread Ben Finney
"GHUM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's one of the great freedoms of Python and its licence: You are > free to chose the licence for your product. No GPLish "you must be > as free as we", more BSDish: "Do what you want, do not come crying" This has nothing to do with the license of Python. Wh

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-18 Thread GHUM
Guy Fawkes schrieb: > I don't want my program to > be open-source and so far all the Python programs I've seen included the > source code. That's one of the great freedoms of Python and its licence: You are free to chose the licence for your product. No GPLish "you must be as free as we", more BS

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-17 Thread Gerold Penz
Guy Fawkes schrieb: > Is it possible to make an executable? Hi GF! http://www.python.net/crew/atuining/cx_Freeze/ Regards, Gerold :-) -- Gerold Penz - bcom - Programmierung [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://gerold.bcom.at |

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-17 Thread Fredrik Lundh
"Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of the bytecode, how does one create it? http://effbot.org/zone/python-compile.htm#compiling-python-modules -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-17 Thread Jay
Speaking of the bytecode, how does one create it? Ben Finney wrote: > "Guy Fawkes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I was wondering if Python programs always need to include the source > > code with the program itself. I'm asking this because I don't want > > my program to be open-source and so

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
"Guy Fawkes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was wondering if Python programs always need to include the source > code with the program itself. I'm asking this because I don't want > my program to be open-source and so far all the Python programs I've > seen included the source code. You can lice

Re: Python programs always open source?

2006-09-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guy Fawkes wrote: > I was wondering if Python programs always need to include the source code > with the program itself. I'm asking this because I don't want my program to > be open-source and so far all the Python programs I've seen included the > source code. You can include the source code but