Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-12 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Amir Michail a écrit : Hi, It seems to me that measuring productivity in a programming language must take into account available tools and libraries. Eclipse for example provides such an amazing IDE for java that it is no longer obvious to me that one would be much more productive in

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-02 Thread Philippe Martin
Amir Michail wrote: Hi, It seems to me that measuring productivity in a programming language must take into account available tools and libraries. Eclipse for example provides such an amazing IDE for java that it is no longer obvious to me that one would be much more productive in

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-02 Thread Amir Michail
Hi, Here's a blog post that is relevant to this discussion: http://sixthandredriver.typepad.com/river_of_code/2006/01/automated_refac.html Amir -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-02 Thread Sells, Fred
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of krishnakant Mane Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 6:19 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: python vs java eclipse just used the py dev plugin for eclipse. it is great. auto indentation and intellisence. and all other things. so now how does it look from this end

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread Simon Brunning
On 1 Dec 2006 01:24:47 -0800, Amir Michail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eclipse for example provides such an amazing IDE for java that it is no longer obvious to me that one would be much more productive in python for medium sized projects. Eclipse can generate a lot of the Java boilerplate code,

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread krishnakant Mane
just used the py dev plugin for eclipse. it is great. auto indentation and intellisence. and all other things. so now how does it look from this end? python + productivity and eclipse + productivity = double productivity! only problem with the plugin is that I find it difficult to manage the

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread hg
krishnakant Mane wrote: just used the py dev plugin for eclipse. it is great. auto indentation and intellisence. and all other things. so now how does it look from this end? python + productivity and eclipse + productivity = double productivity! only problem with the plugin is that I find

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread Thomas Ploch
Thomas Ploch schrieb: Amir Michail schrieb: Hi, It seems to me that measuring productivity in a programming language must take into account available tools and libraries. Eclipse for example provides such an amazing IDE for java that it is no longer obvious to me that one would be much

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread hg
Thomas Ploch wrote: Thomas Ploch schrieb: Amir Michail schrieb: Hi, It seems to me that measuring productivity in a programming language must take into account available tools and libraries. Eclipse for example provides such an amazing IDE for java that it is no longer obvious to me that

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread Amir Michail
krishnakant Mane wrote: just used the py dev plugin for eclipse. it is great. But isn't support for java better because the eclipse ide can take advantage of explicit type declarations (e.g., for intellisense, refactoring, etc.)? Amir auto indentation and intellisence. and all other

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread Stephen Eilert
Amir Michail escreveu: krishnakant Mane wrote: just used the py dev plugin for eclipse. it is great. But isn't support for java better because the eclipse ide can take advantage of explicit type declarations (e.g., for intellisense, refactoring, etc.)? Amir The support for Java is

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread Paul Boddie
Stephen Eilert wrote: The support for Java is light-years ahead. Sometimes I feel that Eclipse is coding for me (quickfix, for instance). Eclipse may be quite a technical achievement, but I found it irritating. Aside from the misuse of screen real-estate, I found that typing two characters and

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Paul Boddie wrote: Eclipse may be quite a technical achievement, but I found it irritating. Aside from the misuse of screen real-estate, I found that typing two characters and having what seemed like half my source file underlined in red, with multiple messages telling me that I had yet to

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hg wrote: Thomas Ploch wrote: Yes, thats true, but since eclipse is resource monster (it is still using java), and some people (like me) don't have a super fresh and new computer If you compare eclipse to VS, it is not that memory hungry And if you compare Saturn to Jupiter, it's not

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread Amir Michail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Is there anything _useful_ that it'll bring that a good editor doesn't? e.g. in vim I do get * automatic syntax checking (if I type if a=1: and hit enter, it'll immediately highlight the syntax error) * omni-completion (because Intellisense is trademarked) *

Re: python vs java eclipse

2006-12-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Amir Michail wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Is there anything _useful_ that it'll bring that a good editor doesn't? e.g. in vim I do get * automatic syntax checking (if I type if a=1: and hit enter, it'll immediately highlight the syntax error) * omni-completion (because