Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Keller
and perhaps a fairly elementary datagrid widget is what is being sought. *snip* I'm sure other people can provide links to resources for other toolkits and frameworks. Err, slight misunderstanding. I am _not_ searching for a toolkit or framework for database applications. What I am

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
does anyone know of a good book that about development of database applications? Scott Ambler's Agile Database Techniques Thanks for the hint, the summaries indicate that this one could be very useful indeed. Sincerely, Wolfgang Keller -- My email-address is correct. Do NOT remove

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-19 Thread Paul Boddie
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On 18 Oct 2006 02:20:15 -0700, Paul Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: Aren't we going round in circles here? There presumably are grid Possibly -- it was the fairly recent lamentation about Delphi that made me think the initial

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-19 Thread Magnus Lycka
Wolfgang Keller wrote: does anyone know of a good book that about development of database applications? Scott Ambler's Agile Database Techniques Regardless of whether you'll actually use a full MVC framework or not, I suggest that you write model classes that are fully decoupled from the UI.

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Boddie
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Python has a half dozen GUI toolkits, and multiple adapters for databases (some don't even follow DB-API2 specs). All independently written. So no, you are not going to find, say, a grid widget that automatically links to a database table/view/cursor, with

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-17 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Wolfgang Keller wrote: Developping quality SQLDBMS-based applications requires more than a bit of SQL knowledge. No doubt. :-) But my bit is enough to get me going and to know where to look for further information if I hit a wall. Especially the people on the Postgres mailinglists (as

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-17 Thread Kent Johnson
Wolfgang Keller wrote: I know about the existence of MVC. But what I'm actually missing is a nice textbook that teaches how to actually implement it (and other design patterns which are useful for database applications) in a real-world application in a way that leads to non-ridiculous

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-17 Thread Wolfgang Keller
Maybe you would like Martin Fowler's Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture http://martinfowler.com/books.html#eaa Thanks, this one is already on my list, just like Data Access Patterns from the same publisher. Examples are mostly Java and C#, sorry! Which is precisely the

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-16 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Wolfgang Keller wrote: Hello, and thanks for your reply, but... Here's a start: http://philip.greenspun.com/sql/ ...small misunderstanding: I already know a bit of SQL, Developping quality SQLDBMS-based applications requires more than a bit of SQL knowledge. and I intend to avoid

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-16 Thread Paul Rubin
Wolfgang Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://philip.greenspun.com/sql/ ...small misunderstanding: I already know a bit of SQL, and I intend to avoid its use as far as possible (and use e.g. Modeling or SQLAlchemy). I'm not sure what you mean, that book isn't just an intro to SQL, it

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-16 Thread Wolfgang Keller
What I'm interested in is rather how to connect a GUI to a database, with quite a bit of application logic in between. And how to do it well. You've described Dabo perfectly. Have you looked into it yet? It's written by a couple of database application developers. Yes, thanks, I know about

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-16 Thread Andy Dingley
Paul Rubin wrote: http://philip.greenspun.com/sql/ There was a time (some time in the mid 90s) when I thought that Philip Greenspun had a Clue. Then I realised just how wrong he was (he started off reasonably right, he just didn't keep up when the world moved on). The highlight of this process

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-16 Thread Wolfgang Keller
Developping quality SQLDBMS-based applications requires more than a bit of SQL knowledge. No doubt. :-) But my bit is enough to get me going and to know where to look for further information if I hit a wall. Especially the people on the Postgres mailinglists (as well as the excellent

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-15 Thread Paul Rubin
Wolfgang Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm especially interested in such practical topics as e.g. how to implement things such that the resulting application doesn't show the hourglass for minutes on every mouseclick. And, btw; W** applications are totally irrelevant for me. Here's a

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Keller
Hello, and thanks for your reply, but... Here's a start: http://philip.greenspun.com/sql/ ...small misunderstanding: I already know a bit of SQL, and I intend to avoid its use as far as possible (and use e.g. Modeling or SQLAlchemy). What I'm interested in is rather how to connect a GUI

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-15 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/15/06, Wolfgang Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm interested in is rather how to connect a GUI to a database, with quite a bit of application logic in between. And how to do it well. You've described Dabo perfectly. Have you looked into it yet? It's written by a couple of database