Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-18 Thread Beth McNany
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:43 PM, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Hi folks, No, I'm not asking for YOU to help ME with a Python homework assignment! Previously, I mentioned that I was starting to teach my son Python.

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-18 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article mailman.4786.1374021635.3114.python-l...@python.org, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:43 AM, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I think that they're disappointed when I show them how much they have to understand just to write a program that

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2013 09:04:32 Albert van der Horst did opine: In article mailman.4786.1374021635.3114.python-l...@python.org, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:43 AM, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I think that they're disappointed

RE: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-18 Thread Joseph Clark
Not to open Pandora's box or anything, but are you aware of the Roguelike community (subculture?) (cult?) of game development? Rogue was an old text-based role playing game for Unix, text-based in the sense that it used the console as a 2D map and ASCII characters as graphics. There has been

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread alex23
On 17/07/2013 8:43 AM, John Ladasky wrote: The kids all claim to be interested. They all want to write the next great 3D video game. Thus, I'm a little surprised that the kids don't actually try to sit down and code without me prompting them. I think that they're disappointed when I show

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:43:45 -0700, John Ladasky wrote: The kids all claim to be interested. They all want to write the next great 3D video game. Thus, I'm a little surprised that the kids don't actually try to sit down and code without me prompting them. I think that they're disappointed

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread Joshua Landau
On 16 July 2013 23:43, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well, a few other parents caught wind of what I was doing with my son, and they asked me whether I could tutor their kids, too. I accepted the jobs (for pay, actually). The kids all claim to be interested. They all

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread PythonAB
On 17 jul 2013, at 08:35, alex23 wrote: On 17/07/2013 8:43 AM, John Ladasky wrote: The kids all claim to be interested. They all want to write the next great 3D video game. Thus, I'm a little surprised that the kids don't actually try to sit down and code without me prompting them. I

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-07-16, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.net wrote: So, what I am seeking are suggestions for programming assignments that I can give to brand-new students of Python. Please keep in mind that none of them are even up to the task of a simple algorithm like Bubble Sort -- at least, not

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: Markov chains are an advanced technique you could introduce, but you'd need a huge list of names broken into syllables from somewhere. You could use names broken into letters... or skip the notion of names and just

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-07-17, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: Markov chains are an advanced technique you could introduce, but you'd need a huge list of names broken into syllables from somewhere. You could use names broken into

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: On 2013-07-17, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: Markov chains are an advanced technique you could introduce, but you'd need a huge list of names

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread alex23
On 17/07/2013 11:29 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: Markov chains are an advanced technique you could introduce, but you'd need a huge list of names broken into syllables from somewhere. You could use names broken into

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-17 Thread Aseem Bansal
On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:13:45 AM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote: Hi folks, No, I'm not asking for YOU to help ME with a Python homework assignment! Previously, I mentioned that I was starting to teach my son Python.

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-16 Thread David Hutto
You have to utilize a set curriculum to teach. Look at several books like Dive Into Python, and such, then work with the student on an individualized project for each one. For 3D you go with pygame and trig, or go with Blender's python API or matplotlib. Just at first show the basic types of

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:43 AM, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I think that they're disappointed when I show them how much they have to understand just to write a program that plays Tic Tac Toe. The disillusionment of every novice programmer, I think. It starts out as I want

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-16 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:43 AM, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I think that they're disappointed when I show them how much they have to understand just to write a program that plays Tic Tac Toe. The

Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!)

2013-07-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Joel Goldstick joel.goldst...@gmail.com wrote: There is a book : http://inventwithpython.com/ Invent Your Own Computer Games with Python which claims to teach people to program games in python. I haven't read it, but it seems to be for beginning programmers.