Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-25 Thread Threader Slash
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > Threader Slash wrote: > >> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: J Sisson >>> To: Nobody >>> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:18:03 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: IDE for python similar to visua

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-25 Thread Dave Angel
Threader Slash wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: J Sisson To: Nobody Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:18:03 -0500 Subject: Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Nobody wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:27:59 -0700, r wrote

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-24 Thread J Sisson
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Nobody wrote: > On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:27:59 -0700, r wrote: > > > Sounds like "somebody" failed to get input > > from their users at design time. Or "somebody" has the inability to > > relate to their end users. > > You're assuming that there is some "right" an

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-24 Thread brian huggins
> You can also try Eclipse + PyDev. It's not the same as Visual Studio, and I   > am not sure about the GUI builder, but I think it's what you want. I really like Eclipse + Pydev. It is not a GUI builder at all but it has a nice debugger, code completion and that kind of thing. And its free! B

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-24 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , Nobody wrote: >On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:56:17 +, Albert van der Horst wrote: >> >> In view of the above this is not quite the correct way to put it. >> >> What I resent is that it leads to a non-professional attitude >> of the graphical part. Programming is over, lets now kludge

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-13 Thread Nobody
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:27:59 -0700, r wrote: >> I'm saying that the user understands their workflow and environment better >> than the application's programmers. The user should be able to decide >> which menu items are shown and where, which buttons are shown and where, >> etc. The code doesn't n

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-11 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 8/30/09 1:48 PM, r wrote: Hello qwe rty, I remember my first days with GUI programming and thinking to myself; how on earth can i write GUI code without a MS style GUI builder? Not to long after that i was coding up some pretty spectacular GUI's from nothing more than source code and loving

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-11 Thread David Smith
r wrote: > On Sep 11, 7:08 am, Nobody wrote: > (snip) >> I'm saying that the user understands their workflow and environment better >> than the application's programmers. The user should be able to decide >> which menu items are shown and where, which buttons are shown and where, >> etc. The code

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-11 Thread Brendon Wickham
> > > The interface really should be configurable by the user according to their > needs. The code doesn't need to *know* the position or dimensions of > a widget, or its label or colour or spacing, let alone dictate them. > Perhaps...but the user needs a framework in order to understand the funct

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-11 Thread r
On Sep 11, 7:08 am, Nobody wrote: (snip) > I'm saying that the user understands their workflow and environment better > than the application's programmers. The user should be able to decide > which menu items are shown and where, which buttons are shown and where, > etc. The code doesn't need to k

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-11 Thread Nobody
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:04:40 -0700, r wrote: >> >It also allows the GUI to be edited by without requiring any programming >> >knowledge. This eliminates the need for the GUI designer to be familiar >> >with the programming language used (or any programming language), and >> >allows customisation b

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-11 Thread Nobody
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:56:17 +, Albert van der Horst wrote: >>The main advantage of a GUI builder is that it helps prevent you from >>hard-coding the GUI into the program. You could get the same effect by >>coding a UIL/XRC/etc file manually, but a GUI builder tends to force it. > > A GUI bui

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-07 Thread r
On Sep 7, 6:56 pm, Albert van der Horst wrote: > In article , > > Nobody   wrote: > >On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:48:24 -0700, r wrote: > > >> I think a point and click GUI builder (although some may disagree) is > >> actually detrimental to your programming skills. The ability to > >> visualize the GUI

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-07 Thread Albert van der Horst
In article , Nobody wrote: >On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:48:24 -0700, r wrote: > >> I think a point and click GUI builder (although some may disagree) is >> actually detrimental to your programming skills. The ability to >> visualize the GUI only from the source code as you read it, is as >> important

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-09-01 Thread r
On Aug 30, 4:12 pm, Nobody wrote: (snip) > Creating a GUI programmatically is almost always the wrong approach. It > tends to be adopted due to a path of least resistance, rather than any > affirmative reason. so i guess it'e safe to say that you use a GUI builder? :-) -- http://mail.python.org/

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-30 Thread Nobody
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:48:24 -0700, r wrote: > I think a point and click GUI builder (although some may disagree) is > actually detrimental to your programming skills. The ability to > visualize the GUI only from the source code as you read it, is as > important to a programmer as site reading she

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-30 Thread r
On Aug 28, 5:19 pm, qwe rty wrote: > i have been searching for am IDE for python that is similar to Visual > Basic but had no luck.shall you help me please? Hello qwe rty, I remember my first days with GUI programming and thinking to myself; how on earth can i write GUI code without a MS style G

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-30 Thread Detlev Offenbach
qwe rty wrote: > i have been searching for am IDE for python that is similar to Visual > Basic but had no luck.shall you help me please? eric4 should be a good candidate. http://eric-ide.python-projects.org Detlev -- Detlev Offenbach det...@die-offenbachs.de -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-29 Thread Che M
On Aug 28, 6:19 pm, qwe rty wrote: > i have been searching for am IDE for python that is similar to Visual > Basic but had no luck.shall you help me please? Boa Constructor. IDE/visual GUI-builder/sizer support, lots of other goodies. Not actively maintained, though, and some issues on Linux, i

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-28 Thread Vivian Wang
On Aug 29, 6:19 am, qwe rty wrote: > i have been searching for am IDE for python that is similar to Visual > Basic but had no luck.shall you help me please? You can try biform: http://www.bilive.com/download/Setup_BiForm_V2.1_en.msi.zip Demo: http://www.bilive.com/demo/BiForm_EN_demo.htm More

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-28 Thread Stef Mientki
qwe rty wrote: On Aug 29, 1:22 am, Craig wrote: Try wingware i have it and i like it. --- On Fri, 8/28/09, qwe rty wrote: From: qwe rty Subject: IDE for python similar to visual basic To: python-l...@python.org Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 5:19 PM i have been searching for am IDE

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-28 Thread William
, qwe rty wrote: From: qwe rty Subject: Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic To: python-list@python.org Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 6:43 PM On Aug 29, 1:22 am, Craig wrote: > Try wingware i have it and i like it. > > --- On Fri, 8/28/09, qwe rty wrote: > > > From: qw

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-28 Thread qwe rty
On Aug 29, 1:22 am, Craig wrote: > Try wingware i have it and i like it. > > --- On Fri, 8/28/09, qwe rty wrote: > > > From: qwe rty > > Subject: IDE for python similar to visual basic > > To: python-l...@python.org > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 5:19 PM > > i have been searching for am IDE

Re: IDE for python similar to visual basic

2009-08-28 Thread Craig
Try wingware i have it and i like it. --- On Fri, 8/28/09, qwe rty wrote: > From: qwe rty > Subject: IDE for python similar to visual basic > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 5:19 PM > i have been searching for am IDE for > python that is similar to Visual > Basic but