Someone wrote:
I'm just curious whether this
argument against dynamic typing - that you end up doing the job of a
static compiler in test code - holds in practice.
I suspect that, although some of the things caught
by the tests would be caught by static typing, the
very *same* tests are also ca
On Apr 30, 10:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > A rather off-topic and perhaps naive question, but isn't a 1:4
> > production/test ratio a bit too much ? Is there a guesstimate of what
> > percentage of this test code tests for things that you would get for
> > free in a statically typed language
>
> A rather off-topic and perhaps naive question, but isn't a 1:4
> production/test ratio a bit too much ? Is there a guesstimate of what
> percentage of this test code tests for things that you would get for
> free in a statically typed language ? I'm just curious whether this
> argument against
On Apr 29, 2:25 pm, Fuzzyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are around 30 000 lines of Python in the production code and
> about 120 000 lines of Python code in the test framework.
A rather off-topic and perhaps naive question, but isn't a 1:4
production/test ratio a bit too much ? Is there a
On Apr 22, 11:25 am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hy guys,
> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
> jokes on python's cost.
>
> Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
> like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able t
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Which big aplications are written in python.
YouTube
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On 2008-04-24, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2:08 pm, Bob Woodham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> x = x++;
>>
>> has unspecified behaviour in C. That is, it is not specified
>> whether the value of x after execution of the statement is the
>> old value of x or one plus the
On 2008-04-24, AlFire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob Woodham wrote:
>
>>
>> x = x++;
>>
>> has unspecified behaviour in C.
>
> what about C++
To the extent that (historically) C++ was a superset of C, it was true of C++
as well. However, I haven't kept pace with the C++ standardization proces
En Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:43:56 -0300, Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
On 23 Apr, 11:12, Mark Wooding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because Python doesn't follow the "boxed variables" model.
Be careful here. `Boxed types' or `boxed objects'
On Apr 23, 2:08 pm, Bob Woodham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> x = x++;
>
> has unspecified behaviour in C. That is, it is not specified
> whether the value of x after execution of the statement is the
> old value of x or one plus the old value of x.
unspecified means that the result could be anyt
Bob Woodham wrote:
x = x++;
has unspecified behaviour in C.
what about C++
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On 2008-04-23, Mark Wooding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Python is actually one of the few to define one but not the other. (The
> other one I can think of is Acorn's BBC BASIC, for whatever that's
> worth; it too lacks `++'.)
You should've added it in Termite Basic then :-p
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Cristina Yenyxe González García wrote:
2008/4/23, Reedick, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
IIRC, Python is used in games like Eve Online (SciFi MMO) and Vampire:
Bloodlines (RPG.) Years later, a dedicated fan is still fixing/updating
the Bloodlines python scripts that control the dialogue and scr
On 2008-04-22, Paul Hankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 5:50 pm, Jérémy Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
>> to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
>>
>> How can you explain that Python doesn't support
Civilisation 4 uses Python everywhere and is the main tool used by
Modders of the game.
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2008/4/23, Reedick, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> IIRC, Python is used in games like Eve Online (SciFi MMO) and Vampire:
> Bloodlines (RPG.) Years later, a dedicated fan is still fixing/updating
> the Bloodlines python scripts that control the dialogue and scripted
> events.
>
Now that you m
> -Original Message-
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of azrael
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:26 AM
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Python Success stories
>
> Hy guys,
> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
>
On 23 Apr, 11:12, Mark Wooding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Because Python doesn't follow the "boxed variables" model.
>
> Be careful here. `Boxed types' or `boxed objects' is a technical term
> essentially meaning `heap-allocated objects, probably
azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
> jokes on python's cost.
There is only one sane way to deal with this situation: You need a
common enemy. Java comes to mind ;-)
cu
Philipp
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Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because Python doesn't follow the "boxed variables" model.
Be careful here. `Boxed types' or `boxed objects' is a technical term
essentially meaning `heap-allocated objects, probably with reference
semantics', which Python most definitely does use
Roy Smith wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
You gotta be careful about stuff like this. You might slap him with a dead
kipper only to discover he's got a dead camel in his pocket.
Of c
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
You gotta be careful about stuff like this. You might slap him with a dead
kipper only to discover he's got a dead camel in his pocket.
Of course, there's alway
Ben Finney wrote:
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
Please, have some dignity!
Challenge him to a duel with live kippers. Live, *rabid* kippers. With
frickin' laser beams on their heads.
I like your style.
Though considerin
Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Challenge him to a dual with dead kippers at twenty paces.
Please, have some dignity!
Challenge him to a duel with live kippers. Live, *rabid* kippers. With
frickin' laser beams on their heads.
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Nikita the Spider wrote:
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
But i can't come up with a big name. I know that there are a lot of
companys using python, but is there anythong big written only in
p
azrael wrote:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"
This hurts. Please give
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.html
2008/4/22 Ivan Illarionov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 22 апр, 14:25, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> []
>
> > This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
> > aplications.
>
> What do you mean by "really famous
On 22 апр, 14:25, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[]
> This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
> aplications.
What do you mean by "really famous"?
Information is here:
http://www.python.org/about/quotes/
Are YouTube and Google famous enough?
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On Apr 22, 3:25 am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hy guys,
> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
> jokes on python's cost.
>
> Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
> like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
En Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:50:54 -0300, Jérémy Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
> to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
>
> How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
> whereas at the same t
On Apr 22, 12:50 pm, Jérémy Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
> to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
>
> How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
> whereas at the same time it does support
On Apr 22, 5:50 pm, Jérémy Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
> to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
>
> How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
> whereas at the same time it does support
Sure. Python is more readable than Perl, though I have found Python
to have a weird behavior regarding this little issue :
How can you explain that Python doesn't support the ++ opeator,
whereas at the same time it does support the += operator ???
No python developer I know has been able to answ
On Apr 22, 5:25 am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hy guys,
> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
> jokes on python's cost.
>
> Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
> like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:35:47 -0700 (PDT)
GHUM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
>
> There are no big applications written in Python.
>
> Big applications are written in JAVA or COBOL or C# or other legacy
> programming systems.
>
>
En Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:34:48 -0300, Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
> azrael schrieb:
>> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
>> jokes on python's cost.
>>
>> Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
>> like :"keep programing i
> Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
There are no big applications written in Python.
Big applications are written in JAVA or COBOL or C# or other legacy
programming systems.
If you programm in Python, your applications become quite small. Only
frameworks in Pyth
On Apr 22, 6:25 am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
> jokes on python's cost.
> This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
> aplications.
you could show him what Master Yoda said when he compared Python to
Pe
azrael wrote:
Which big aplications are written in python. I see its development,
But i can't come up with a big name. I know that there are a lot of
companys using python, but is there anythong big written only in
python. I want him to fuck of with his perl once and for all time
Not really "bi
On Apr 22, 6:25 am, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hy guys,
> A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
> jokes on python's cost.
>
> Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
> like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
On Apr 22, 6:34 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> azrael schrieb:
>
> > Hy guys,
> > A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
> > jokes on python's cost.
>
> > Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
> > like :"keep programing i p
azrael a écrit :
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
s/proud/stupid/
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"
T
http://panela.blog-city.com/python_at_google_greg_stein__sdforum.htm
Google big enough?
...or look at the companies on the "NASA uses Python... ...so does:"
box on the top (nearly top any how!) right of http://www.python.org/
On 22/04/2008, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which big aplicatio
azrael skrev:
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"
When I started writing in Python in the nineties there was a lot of
tech-media coverage of Perl. Python was always mention
azrael wrote:
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"
This hurts. Please give me informations about realy famous
aplications.
He's joking. Perl is a dysfunctional language and
azrael schrieb:
Hy guys,
A friend of mine i a proud PERL developer which always keeps making
jokes on python's cost.
Please give me any arguments to cut him down about his commnets
like :"keep programing i python. maybe, one day, you will be able to
program in VisualBasic"
This hurts. Please gi
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