Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 05/24/2018 08:20 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > But you had to jump through hoops with procmail and server/client side > filtering to get there. True, but it takes maybe 30 seconds for each new list I sign up for, and then it's out of sight, out of mind. I already do a ton of filtering on my

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 05/24/2018 07:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:44:26 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> I agree web forums really suck for any kind of multi-user conversation. > > Oh good. Because the Python core-devs are talking about moving to > Github's web interface instead of

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 05/24/2018 07:10 AM, Chris Green wrote: > A *thread* yes, but not a whole list. I.e. if you read this using > mail/IMAP you can mark a thread read but you can't mark *all* Python > list messages read in one go can you? With tin/Usenet I look at > the list of new subjects in the Python

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Chris Green
José María Mateos wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2018, at 09:10, Chris Green wrote: > > > Yes I can mark an entire thread as "read" in IMAP. > > > > > A *thread* yes, but not a whole list. I.e. if you read this using > > mail/IMAP you can mark a thread read but you can't mark

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread José María Mateos
On Thu, May 24, 2018, at 09:10, Chris Green wrote: > > Yes I can mark an entire thread as "read" in IMAP. > > > A *thread* yes, but not a whole list. I.e. if you read this using > mail/IMAP you can mark a thread read but you can't mark *all* Python > list messages read in one go can you? With

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-24, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 05/23/2018 12:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> But IMO email pales in comparison to NNTP when there are more than a >> few messages per day per group. > > This is not my experience at all. I used to use Usenet back in the day, > but for

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Chris Green
Michael Torrie wrote: > Comparing to IMAP and Thunderbird: > > On 05/23/2018 04:39 PM, Chris Green wrote: > > Well from other comments here it seems I'm not alone but anyway:- > > > > Proper threading etc. is built in > > check. > > > > > It's automatically

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:44:26 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: > I agree web forums really suck for any kind of multi-user conversation. Oh good. Because the Python core-devs are talking about moving to Github's web interface instead of email. Because Github is the future :-)

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
Comparing to IMAP and Thunderbird: On 05/23/2018 04:39 PM, Chris Green wrote: > Well from other comments here it seems I'm not alone but anyway:- > > Proper threading etc. is built in check. > > It's automatically archived and one can search back through > threads for old

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Michael Torrie
On 05/23/2018 12:03 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > Yes. NNTP and NNTP clients were designed from the ground up to deal > with ongoing discussions shared by large groups of people posting lots > of messages, and they're _very_ good at. > > Email was designed for one person sending one message to

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-24 Thread Gregory Ewing
Ned Batchelder wrote: On 5/23/18 12:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google, yahoo yadda yadda into thinking that webmail and forums are the only game in town? Please avoid accusing others of being brain damaged, even if it was meant in a humorous context. :(

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 19:24:52 Alan Bawden wrote: > Gene Heskett writes: > > You are stating an opinion, but no facts to back it up, so describe > > your environment that makes you write that, please. > > If he describes his environment and why he likes it, will that be

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Alan Bawden
Gene Heskett writes: > You are stating an opinion, but no facts to back it up, so describe your > environment that makes you write that, please. If he describes his environment and why he likes it, will that be a "fact"? Or will you dismiss that as just another

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Chris Green
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 23 May 2018 12:45:57 Chris Green wrote: > > > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not > > > used by everybody? > > > > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 12:45:57 Chris Green wrote: > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not > > used by everybody? > > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much > better! :-) > > --

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-23, Chris Green wrote: > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: >> can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by >> everybody? > > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much > better! :-) Yes. NNTP

Re: Usenet Gateway (was: Spam levels.)

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-05-23, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by > everybody? 1) I perfer the user-interface offered by my NNTP client (slrn). 2) I don't want to archive many years worth of dozens of mailing

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 5/23/18 12:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2018 11:20:34 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by everybody? Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$,

Re: Usenet Gateway

2018-05-23 Thread Chris Green
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by > everybody? > Because the Usenet/NNTP interface (with a good newsreader) is so much better! :-) -- Chris Green · --

Re: Usenet Gateway (was: Spam levels.)

2018-05-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 23 May 2018 11:20:34 Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used > by everybody? > > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer > https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ Brain damaged by facebook, AOL, M$, Google, yahoo yadda yadda into thinking

Re: Usenet Gateway (was: Spam levels.)

2018-05-23 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
can someone explain to me why the mailing list (spam free) is not used by everybody? Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ > > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list