Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-31 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Gilles Ganault a écrit : On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:40:35 +0200, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you say that the Win32 API lacks documentation? I find the documentation at msdn.microsoft.com to be quite useful. No, I meant documentation on how to write Win32 apps using PyWin.

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-31 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Gilles Ganault a écrit : On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:49:04 -0700, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why inflict suffering on yourself with MFC when you can use wxPython or PyGTK? Because I'd like to avoid having to pack several MB + having to install the toolkit. Considering the size of the

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-31 Thread sturlamolden
On Jul 31, 4:35 am, Gilles Ganault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I'd like to avoid having to pack several MB + having to install the toolkit. Considering the size of the typical Python script, it seemed overkill. But you are happy to pack a Python runtime and PyWin32? This is really a dumb

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-30 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:49:04 -0700, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why inflict suffering on yourself with MFC when you can use wxPython or PyGTK? Because I'd like to avoid having to pack several MB + having to install the toolkit. Considering the size of the typical Python script, it

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Guess I have the answer as to no one seems to write GUI apps for Windows natively :-) That's certainly an important factor. If I wanted to ship a small application, I would write a web server, and run that locally. GUI programming is so last-century :-) Regards, Martin --

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-29 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:40:35 +0200, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you say that the Win32 API lacks documentation? I find the documentation at msdn.microsoft.com to be quite useful. No, I meant documentation on how to write Win32 apps using PyWin. Yes, there haven't been many

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-29 Thread sturlamolden
On Jul 29, 1:29 am, Gilles Ganault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides the total lack of documentation, You mean 'total lack of documentation' besides Mark Hammond's O'Reilly book on Windows programming in Python? Not to mention MSDN, Charles Petzold's book, and other sources of Win32 API and MFC

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-29 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:33:40 -0700, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean 'total lack of documentation' besides Mark Hammond's O'Reilly book on Windows programming in Python? Sorry, I thought that book was way outdated because it uses Python 1.5. Not to mention MSDN, Charles Petzold's

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-29 Thread sturlamolden
On Jul 30, 6:07 am, Gilles Ganault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For people who don't konw the Win32 API and don't know C... is the O'Reilly book above the best source of information on how to write Win32 GUI apps in Python? Why inflict suffering on yourself with MFC when you can use wxPython or

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
It looks like the development of the PyWin32 wrapper to the Win32 API stopped years ago, which is too bad because it means that writing GUI apps in Python even just for Windows means adding megabytes when using eg. wxWidgets. Why does it mean that? The Win32 APIs for GUI are up-to-date;

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-28 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:05:34 +0200, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does it mean that? The Win32 APIs for GUI are up-to-date; they don't need further development. Win32 itself stopped years ago. You can write GUI applications with PyWin32 just fine. Besides the total lack of

Re: Why no maintained wrapper to Win32?

2007-07-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Why does it mean that? The Win32 APIs for GUI are up-to-date; they don't need further development. Win32 itself stopped years ago. You can write GUI applications with PyWin32 just fine. Besides the total lack of documentation, you mean that nothing was added to the Win32 API since PyWin32