Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2025-01-03 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 09:22, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > > On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > >> sorry you don't understand the problem… > >> > >> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL > >>

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2025-01-03 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: sorry you don't understand the problem… > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my sqalite3. The

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-30 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > sorry you don't understand the problem… > > > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL > > I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my > sqalite3. The *only* mechanism that would cause

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 at 15:02, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL > > I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my > sqalite3. You keep saying this, but do you even know what "make install" does? Are y

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 19:33, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/25/24 10:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: Right. That's exactly what would happen if he'd built Python using absolute paths to libraries, which is the normal way to do it. And so the solution is to rebuild Python using absolute paths to libraries. You

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 04:55, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: 1) "cnf" is using OS python 2) os "root" python 3) using *

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 04:55, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: 1) "cnf" is using OS python 2) os "root" python 3) using *

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 26.12.24 06:46, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* err

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-29 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 25.12.24 23:55, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: 1) "cnf" is using OS python 2) os "root" python 3) using **my** local non-root library Yes. And YOU were the one who

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-26 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/25/24 10:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Right. That's exactly what would happen if he'd built Python using > absolute paths to libraries, which is the normal way to do it. And so > the solution is to rebuild Python using absolute paths to libraries. You're right. Definitely appears to be a p

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > > On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list > > wrote: > >> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: > >> > >> 1) "cnf"

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/25/24 8:55 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > This is Python related, but > it's not necessarily python's fault per se. It's also a good reminder to use venv. Then there's no way of activating your custom python with its custom sqlite3 library unless you explicitly activate the venv. -- https://m

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list > wrote: >> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: >> >> 1) "cnf" is using OS python >> 2) os "root" python >> 3) using **my** local non-root librar

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because: > > 1) "cnf" is using OS python > 2) os "root" python > 3) using **my** local non-root library Yes. And YOU were the one who installed a new root Python. This i

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 25.12.24 12:05, aotto1968 wrote: I get angry… next python error… 1) The OpenSUSE command "cnf" checks if a special package feature is installed. 2) I recently compiled **my** SQLite3 library specifically tailored to **my** requirement and installed it in **my** SQLite3 project directory and

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-25 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
I get angry… next python error… 1) The OpenSUSE command "cnf" checks if a special package feature is installed. 2) I recently compiled **my** SQLite3 library specifically tailored to **my** requirement and installed it in **my** SQLite3 project directory and never changed the OpenSUSE installat

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-17 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/16/24 12:08 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters" at > python doesn't ever understand the problem. Sorry you feel that way. Various people gave the best advice they could based on what you had provided. You were given s

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-16 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-12-16, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters" > at python doesn't ever understand the problem. You should definitely demand to speak to the manager and request your money back. -- Grant -- https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-16 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-12-16 08:08:46 +0100, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: > > it's a shame... > > almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some > > configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation > > __isn't__ properly "underst

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-16 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood". -> I think after ~30 years *python* should be able to handle a shared-

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/14/24 10:31 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the > installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment. > > the mono build search for a working python3 and find *my* > > HOME/ext/x86_64-suse-linux-gnu/

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 at 06:05, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the > installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment. > So, it's an environment problem, NOT a Python problem. You messed up your installation.

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 14.12.24 10:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote: On 2024-12-13 11:36:01 +0100, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood". ->

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/14/24 2:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: > So it might be because it's in a different directory ("HOME/ext/..." is > a relative path. That will not work in a different directory. Also > "HOME" is a strange choice for a directory name. Did you mean $HOME?) or > because the accepta

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Torrie via Python-list
On 12/13/24 1:56 PM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > the problem is *not* to setup an environment variable, the problem is that > python is *not* > able to setup the *python* environment by it self. You're mistaken in this case. Nothing you've posted indicates the problem is in Python itself.

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-14 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2024-12-13 11:36:01 +0100, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: > it's a shame... > almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some > configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation > __isn't__ properly "understood". > > -> I think after ~30 years *python*

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 19:24, Barry wrote: On 13 Dec 2024, at 15:54, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: HOME/ext/x86_64-suse-linux-gnu/debug/bin/python3: error while loading shared libraries: libpython3.12d.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory This is a debug build? Try

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 13 Dec 2024, at 15:54, aotto1968 via Python-list > wrote: > > HOME/ext/x86_64-suse-linux-gnu/debug/bin/python3: error while loading shared > libraries: libpython3.12d.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory This is a debug build? Try setting LD_LIBRARY_PAT

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 11:44, aotto1968 wrote: On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood". -> I think after ~30 years *pytho

Re: it's a shame... python error over error

2024-12-13 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 13.12.24 11:36, aotto1968 wrote: it's a shame... almost every tool I touch that uses "python" in some way has some configuration error because apparently a __private__ python installation __isn't__ properly "understood". -> I think after ~30 years *python* should be able to handle a shared-