Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-22 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Friday 22/9/2006 04:53, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > ... a python string has both a length *and* a null terminator (for > ease of interfacing C routines ... How does that work for strings with embedded nulls? Or are the C routines simply fooled into seeing a truncated part of the string? T

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-22 Thread Duncan Booth
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gabriel > Genellina wrote: > >> ... a python string has both a length *and* a null terminator (for >> ease of interfacing C routines ... > > How does that work for strings with embedded nulls? Or are the C routines

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-22 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gabriel Genellina wrote: > ... a python string has both a length *and* a null terminator (for > ease of interfacing C routines ... How does that work for strings with embedded nulls? Or are the C routines simply fooled into seeing a truncated part of the string? --

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-21 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Irmen de Jong wrote: > Because the result of partition is a non mutable tuple type containing > three substrings of the original string, is it perhaps also the case > that partition works without allocating extra memory for 3 new string > objects and copying the substrings into them? nope. the c

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-20 Thread Irmen de Jong
Gabriel Genellina wrote: > Nope, a python string has both a length *and* a null terminator (for > ease of interfacing C routines, I guess) so you can't just share a > substring. Ofcourse, that makes perfect sense. Should have thought a little bit further myself :) --Irmen -- http://mail.

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-20 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Wednesday 20/9/2006 15:11, Irmen de Jong wrote: Because the result of partition is a non mutable tuple type containing three substrings of the original string, is it perhaps also the case that partition works without allocating extra memory for 3 new string objects and copying the substrings

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-20 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Salerno a écrit : > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >> Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? > > > Hmm, I suppose you could get nearly the same functionality as using > split(':', 1), but with partition you also get the separator returned as > well. Well, y

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-20 Thread Steve Holden
Irmen de Jong wrote: > Terry Reedy wrote: > >>"Bruno Desthuilliers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in >>message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? >> >>s.partition() was invented and its design settled on as a result of looking >>at so

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-20 Thread Irmen de Jong
Terry Reedy wrote: > "Bruno Desthuilliers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? > > s.partition() was invented and its design settled on as a result of looking > at some awkward constructions in t

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-20 Thread MonkeeSage
s = "There should be one -- and preferably only one -- obvious way to do it".partition('only one') print s[0]+'more than one'+s[2] ;) Regards, Jordan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Terry Reedy
"Bruno Desthuilliers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? s.partition() was invented and its design settled on as a result of looking at some awkward constructions in the standard library and other

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Duncan Booth
"George Sakkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >> I must definitively be dumb, but so far I fail to see how it's better >> than split and rsplit: > > I fail to see it too. What's the point of returning the separator since > the caller passes it anyway* ? > The separat

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Jack Diederich
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 07:23:50PM +, John Salerno wrote: > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > > > Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? > > Hmm, I suppose you could get nearly the same functionality as using > split(':', 1), but with partition you also get the se

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread John Salerno
Larry Bates wrote: > John Salerno wrote: >> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >> >>> Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? >> Hmm, I suppose you could get nearly the same functionality as using >> split(':', 1), but with partition you also get the separator returned as >>

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Larry Bates
John Salerno wrote: > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >> Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? > > Hmm, I suppose you could get nearly the same functionality as using > split(':', 1), but with partition you also get the separator returned as > well. > >> There are

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread George Sakkis
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > I must definitively be dumb, but so far I fail to see how it's better > than split and rsplit: I fail to see it too. What's the point of returning the separator since the caller passes it anyway* ? George * unless the separator can be a regex, but I don't think so.

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Thomas Heller
John Salerno schrieb: > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > >> Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? > > Hmm, I suppose you could get nearly the same functionality as using > split(':', 1), but with partition you also get the separator returned as > well. Well, x.spl

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread John Salerno
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > Err... is it me being dumb, or is it a perfect use case for str.split ? Hmm, I suppose you could get nearly the same functionality as using split(':', 1), but with partition you also get the separator returned as well. > There are IMVHO much exciting new features

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Tim Chase
> But you raise a good point. Notice this: > > >>> s = 'hello, world, how are you' > > >>> s.split(',') > ['hello', ' world', ' how are you'] > > >>> s.partition(',') > ('hello', ',', ' world, how are you') > > split will return all substrings. partition (and rpartition) only return > the s

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Tim Chase
>> partition(sep) condenses this pattern into a single method >> call that returns a 3-tuple containing the substring before >> the separator, the separator itself, and the substring after >> the separator. If the separator isn't found, the first >> element of the tuple is the entire string and th

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
John Salerno a écrit : > Forgive my excitement, especially if you are already aware of this, but > this seems like the kind of feature that is easily overlooked (yet could > be very useful): > > > Both 8-bit and Unicode strings have new partition(sep) and > rpartition(sep) methods that simplif

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread John Salerno
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm confused. > What's the difference between this and string.split? >>> s = 'hello, world' >>> s.split(',') ['hello', ' world'] >>> s.partition(',') ('hello', ',', ' world') split returns a list of the substrings on either side of the specified argument. partit

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread Lawrence Oluyede
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the difference between this and string.split? >>> ('http://www.python.org').partition('://') ('http', '://', 'www.python.org') >>> ('http://www.python.org').split('://') ['http', 'www.python.org'] -- Lawrence - http://www.oluyede.org/blog

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm confused. What's the difference between this and string.split? John Salerno wrote: > Forgive my excitement, especially if you are already aware of this, but > this seems like the kind of feature that is easily overlooked (yet could > be very useful): > > > Both 8-bit and Unicode strings have n

Re: new string method in 2.5 (partition)

2006-09-19 Thread metaperl
sweet thanks for the heads up. John Salerno wrote: > Forgive my excitement, especially if you are already aware of this, but > this seems like the kind of feature that is easily overlooked (yet could > be very useful): > > > Both 8-bit and Unicode strings have new partition(sep) and > rpartition(s