On 2018-01-28 15:04:26 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
> pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
> the code.
For your amusment, here is how a well-known German tech news site
publishes
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:28 PM, Gilmeh Serda
wrote:
>
> M$'s excuse for a real Terminal, "Power" Shell (sigh), is _slightly_
> better but still lacking lots of features. Like a decent scripting
> language. I loath VBS. ¦þ,,, /puke
PowerShell is a .NET
On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 11:17:45 PM UTC+5:30, Adriaan Renting wrote:
> I am Dutch and after googling the term, I can confirm that the "Dutch
> Reach" is taught in driving school here.
> I was taught this maneuvre when getting my licence 20 years ago.
> And in the Netherlands, we
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 16:14:45 +0100, Adriaan Renting wrote:
> I am Dutch and after googling the term, I can confirm that the "Dutch
> Reach" is taught in driving school here. I was taught this maneuvre when
> getting my licence 20 years ago.
Thanks for the data point. Was it a requirement of the
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:22:39 +0100, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
> On 01/29/2018 03:48 PM, alister via Python-list wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 15:20:06 +0100, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/28/2018 04:43 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
I've never been a Windows user, but at my current job,
it seems that at the end, invariably, the subject becomes well routed to
regions far away from codeland
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://abdurrahmaanjanhangeer.wordpress.com
On 28 Jan 2018 19:08, "Steven D'Aprano" <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> I'm seeing this annoying
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:39:26 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote:
> Also, I just wanted to add that if you're going to use the side mirror
> then you need to watch it for a couple of seconds rather than a quick
> glance. Most people's mirrors are not particularly well adjusted to
> capture the car's blind
On 2018-01-30, Ian Kelly wrote:
>
>> Unless the bike lane is between the "parallel parking lane" and the
>> curb[*], in which case it's the passenger side doors that are used to
>> catch bicycles rather than the driver's side doors.
>>
>> [*] This seems to be increasingly
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:41:36 + (UTC), Steven D'Aprano
declaimed the following:
Its the component of the router that actually handles the
telecommunications side of things. Legend has it that once upon a time
they were a stand alone device.
Even more
On 01/29/2018 03:48 PM, alister via Python-list wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 15:20:06 +0100, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
On 01/28/2018 04:43 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
I've never been a Windows user, but at my current job, Windows is core
to just about everything, so I am forced to use it for a lot
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:46:59 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2018 17:26:32 GMT, Peter Pearson
> declaimed the following:
>
>>
>>In 1964, the IBM exhibit at the World's Fair in New York demonstrated
>>a system that read dates that visitors wrote by hand.
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2018-01-30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:48:29 +, Matt Wheeler wrote:
>>
>>> Checking the side mirrors isn't particularly helpful advice if you're
On 2018-01-30 15:39, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 05:48:15 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote:
[...]
Ah, yes, the Dutch Reach. That would be like the French Pox (which
isn't French), the Spanish Flu (that didn't start in Spain), the
Jerusalem artichoke (which is neither an artichoke nor
On 30/01/18 16:47, alister via Python-list wrote:
The British TV show QI seemed to think this is actually part of the Dutch
driving test although they have been known to make mistakes
It has to be noted that the QI Elves did not do particularly well in
Only Connect...
--
Rhodri James *-*
On 2018-01-30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> We're talking about *programmers* here -- if they can't cope with the
> highly stylised textual medium in which they work, they're going to
> really struggle to, you know, actually program.
Well, to be fair, many of
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:28:58 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:32:11 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 8:37:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for
>>> trivial pieces of text, a
On 2018-01-30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:48:29 +, Matt Wheeler wrote:
>
>> Checking the side mirrors isn't particularly helpful advice if you're
>> sitting in any seat other than the driver's seat, however.
>
> That's a fair point.
>
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:09 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 05:48:15 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>> Text is a highly stylized unnatural medium
> [chomp]
>
>> That people who have not been cultured in a certain way can do
>> aggravating
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:48:29 +, Matt Wheeler wrote:
> Checking the side mirrors isn't particularly helpful advice if you're
> sitting in any seat other than the driver's seat, however.
That's a fair point.
But it really only applies to those sitting on the driver's side in the
back seat.
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 05:48:15 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Text is a highly stylized unnatural medium
Hmmm. I think it is no more "unnatural" than whale songs or the extremely
formalised dancing rituals of birds or any other animal communication.
Our species just takes this communication to a
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 at 15:39 Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> This effectively and completely undermines the supposed claim that this
> technique makes it *automatic* to look behind you for on-coming cyclists.
> That simply isn't the case. Whether you use the arm
On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 05:48:15 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote:
[...]
>> Ah, yes, the Dutch Reach. That would be like the French Pox (which
>> isn't French), the Spanish Flu (that didn't start in Spain), the
>> Jerusalem artichoke (which is neither an artichoke nor from Jerusalem),
>> and the turkey (the
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 1:02:12 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:32:11 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 8:37:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano
> > wrote:
> >> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
>
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:32:11 -0800, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 8:37:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
>> pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
>> the code.
On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 8:37:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
> pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
> the code.
>
> Where has this meme come from? It seems to be one which
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
wrote:
>
> XD since we were elaborating on the reasons why users use screenshot, well i
> was elaborating why users use screenshot, not me. those are some reasons i
> came across being admin in some whatsapp groups
XD since we were elaborating on the reasons why users use screenshot, well
i was elaborating why users use screenshot, not me. those are some reasons
i came across being admin in some whatsapp groups and python lists (where
the user complains of his attachments not showing).
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
wrote:
> well maybe screenshot of shell sessions to show varying formatted test
> cases might be valid (like the increasingly popular practise of coding py
> on android)
Maybe, but that isn't code.
> also,
well maybe screenshot of shell sessions to show varying formatted test
cases might be valid (like the increasingly popular practise of coding py
on android)
also, sreenshot sources tend to be syntax colored which might be easier to
read.
overall it is a bad idea as you won't have the full code
On 01/29/2018 02:41 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:43:36 -0800, John Ladasky wrote:
On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
(The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and
although even then most questions can be described in words.
So I don't quite rule out the possibility of programmers needing to take
screen shots at all. I'm not a troglodyte :-)
But what I do rule out is the necessity and usefulness of programmers
taking screen shots of their *code* to a
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:43:36 -0800, John Ladasky wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
>> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet
>> forever.)
>
>
On 2018-01-29, D'Arcy Cain wrote:
> Modems are still around. They have simply evolved from the 300 baud
> acoustic coupler.
Those did _not_ work well with "trimline" style phones, but you could
get by if you wrapped it in a couple towels, stuffed it in a small
cooler,
Am 2018-01-29 hackte John Ladasky in die Tasten:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
>> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet
>> forever.)
>
> What's a...
On 01/29/2018 01:43 PM, John Ladasky wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
>> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet forever.)
>
> What's a... modem?
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:43 PM, John Ladasky
wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
>> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:34 PM, John Gordon wrote:
>
> The displayed filename in File Explorer was input.txt -- meaning that the
> real filename was actually input.txt.txt, because File Explorer shows file
> extensions as a separate column.
One of the first things I do after
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:43 AM, John Ladasky
wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
>> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the
On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet forever.)
What's a... modem?
--
In Steven D'Aprano
writes:
> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
> pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
> the code.
In some (perhaps
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 20:24:55 -0800, Dan Stromberg wrote:
[snip]
>
> Is it really true that OCR appeared long before Neural Networks
> (NN's)? I first heard of NN's in the 80's, but OCR more like the
> 90's.
In 1964, the IBM exhibit at the World's Fair in New York
On 29/01/18 04:29, Dan Stromberg wrote:
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
If an NN can ... play go on a level that can beat the best human in the
world
Correcting myself: I think Google's AlphaGo used more than one NN,
plus perhaps a little
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 12:17:39 +1300, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
>> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet
>> forever.)
>
> Shh! Don't give them ideas!
just wait, once they
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 15:20:06 +0100, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
> On 01/28/2018 04:43 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>> I've never been a Windows user, but at my current job, Windows is core
>> to just about everything, so I am forced to use it for a lot of stuff
>> (Outlook, SQL Server, Excel, etc).
>
>
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 22:11:12 +, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Tim Delaney writes:
>>These are support people who are employed by the company I'm contracted
>>to.
>>Doesn't matter how often I try to train them otherwise, this type of
>>thing keeps happening.
>
> That
On 01/28/2018 04:43 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
I've never been a Windows user, but at my current job, Windows is core to
just about everything, so I am forced to use it for a lot of stuff
(Outlook, SQL Server, Excel, etc).
I was hired at a startup which made a good impression on me and I was
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> If an NN can ... play go on a level that can beat the best human in the
> world
Correcting myself: I think Google's AlphaGo used more than one NN,
plus perhaps a little traditional reading algorithm. So I probably
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:13:05 -0800, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>> It feel like it'd be possible to train a neural network to translate
>> text in a screenshot to plain text though.
>
> That would be OCR,
the internet forever.)
I work remotely and have for over 20 years. At first I communicated
with my colleagues via phone and email. Then it was skype for a while
but then it went back to email. Then IRC had a moment, then it was
slack for a while, then back to email. Now everyone seems to b
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:13:05 -0800, Dan Stromberg wrote:
> I'm afraid the perspective may be:
> Text == primitive
> GUI == modern
>
> It feel like it'd be possible to train a neural network to translate
> text in a screenshot to plain text though.
That would be OCR, which has been around long
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 00:27:07 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:55:54 +1100, Tim Delaney wrote:
>
>> I got back a Word document containing about 10 screenshots where they'd
>> apparently taken a screenshot, moved the horizontal scrollbar one
>> screen, taken another
I'm afraid the perspective may be:
Text == primitive
GUI == modern
It feel like it'd be possible to train a neural network to translate
text in a screenshot to plain text though.
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> I'm seeing this
On 29 January 2018 at 11:27, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:55:54 +1100, Tim Delaney wrote:
>
> > I got back a Word document containing about 10 screenshots where they'd
> > apparently taken a screenshot, moved the horizontal scrollbar one
On Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:55:54 +1100, Tim Delaney wrote:
> I got back a Word document containing about 10 screenshots where they'd
> apparently taken a screenshot, moved the horizontal scrollbar one
> screen, taken another screenshot, etc.
You're lucky they didn't just take a single screen shot,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
(The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet forever.)
Shh! Don't give them ideas!
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On 29 January 2018 at 02:04, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
> pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
> the code.
I don't tend to see this from programmers I
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:41 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 3:27:06 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Chris Warrick wrote:
>> > On 28 January 2018 at 20:19, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> >> The
On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 3:27:06 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Chris Warrick wrote:
> > On 28 January 2018 at 20:19, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> The vanilla Windows console (conhost.exe IIRC) is far from ideal for
> >>
when the "Snipping Tool" was added to
>> the builtins.
>
> Thanks, I didn't know that.
It's a common feature in desktop environments. In Ubuntu Linux I can
hit Shift+PrintScreen to select and save part of the screen as a PNG
file, or copy it to the clipboard.
But it's no excuse for se
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Chris Warrick wrote:
> On 28 January 2018 at 20:19, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> The vanilla Windows console (conhost.exe IIRC) is far from ideal for
>> copying and pasting from
>
> It’s been fixed in recent Windows 10 releases
On 28 January 2018 at 20:19, Chris Angelico wrote:
> The vanilla Windows console (conhost.exe IIRC) is far from ideal for
> copying and pasting from
It’s been fixed in recent Windows 10 releases (select and Ctrl+C works now).
> Windows error popups are *impossible* to copy
On 1/28/2018 10:54 AM, Tim Golden wrote:
On 28/01/2018 15:04, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
the code.
This happens on Stackoverflow too. There, one can
On 2018-01-28, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> I've noticed it as well. I suspect it's from the Windows universe where
> it's common to snip a bit of the screen which isn't pure text when asking
> about some problematic GUI thing which is causing problems.
It's definitely a
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:36 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
>> Certainly easier for the average user than trying to do a
>> slightly tricky rectangle selection within the Windows console.
>
> But I'm not seeing that it could possibly be easier than selecting text
On Sunday 28 January 2018 10:55:30 Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> On 2018-01-28 15:04:26 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for
> > trivial pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead
> > of copying the code.
> >
> > Where has
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:54:31 +, Tim Golden wrote:
> At least for Windows users, grabbing a partial screenshot (eg of text)
> has been very easy since Windows 7 when the "Snipping Tool" was added to
> the builtins.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
> Certainly easier for the average user than
On 2018-01-28 15:04:26 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
> pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
> the code.
>
> Where has this meme come from?
Twitter? You can't send more than 140
On 28/01/2018 15:04, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
the code.
Where has this meme come from? It seems to be one which inconveniences
*everyone* involved:
-
I've noticed it as well. I suspect it's from the Windows universe where
it's common to snip a bit of the screen which isn't pure text when asking
about some problematic GUI thing which is causing problems.
I've never been a Windows user, but at my current job, Windows is core to
just about
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 03:04:26PM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code
> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet forever.)
And the clever hack will be to send a WAV that tricks your
modem into
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 15:04:26 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
> pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
> the code.
>
> Where has this meme come from? It seems to be one which inconveniences
I'm seeing this annoying practice more and more often. Even for trivial
pieces of text, a few lines, people post screenshots instead of copying
the code.
Where has this meme come from? It seems to be one which inconveniences
*everyone* involved:
- for the sender, instead of a simple copy and
UGH so frustrating. In my game there is a minimap. On top of the minimap is a
window showing the part of the map your viewing. The minimap is composed of
other little pictures piled of top of eachother.
I want to know how to basically take a picture from ex.((50,50),to (150,150))
and blit the
katie smith wrote:
UGH so frustrating. In my game there is a minimap. On top of the
minimap is a window showing the part of the map your viewing. The
minimap is composed of other little pictures piled of top of eachother.
I want to know how to basically take a picture from ex.((50,50),to
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