In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
Putting preferences files in the user's top level directory is horribly
inconvenient for the user.
There is a way around this: redefine the HOME environment variable to be the
directory where you want the dotfiles to end up.
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:50:46 +0200, Stef Mientki wrote:
Duncan, in windows it's begin to become less common to store settings in
DocsSettings,
because these directories are destroyed by roaming profiles
The directories aren't destroyed by roaming profiles. When the
Stef Mientki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent, filepaths ?
I can think of something like:
- use a relative path if drive is identical to the application (I'm still a
Windows guy)
- use some kind of OS-dependent translation table if on
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ross Ridge wrote:
Ross Ridge wrote:
As opposed to the file system being the single point failure?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The file system is involved regardless. But leaving out an additional
layer of failure on top of it does make things
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:00:35 -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
It is true that all kinds of programs will create .app files in your
home dir which is not very polite.
It _is_ polite. Polite means following the established rules and doing
what's expected of you. That's exactly what is expected
On Oct 22, 2008, at 10:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
It would have been easy to avoid this: just copy the relevant bits of
the / directory hierarchy in the user's home directory. Global
settings
go in /etc and per user settings go in ~/etc. Global temp files go
into /
tmp and per user temp
Steven D'Aprano schreef:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:06 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:40:32 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Linux, config files should go into:
~/.appname/ or /etc/appname/
However, the normal place to store settings on Windows is in the registry.
Which becomes a single point of failure for the whole system.
LOL :-)
BTW famous big popular programs like firefox and thunderbird will store
their configuration data under Documents and Settings\Application
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:32:14 +0200, Laszlo Nagy wrote:
Users who like to go inside Documents and Settings\Application data
and delete things without knowing what they do deserve to have a
malfunctioning system for sure.
The worst consequence from deleting a settings file should be to revert
Ross Ridge wrote:
However, the normal place to store settings on Windows is in the registry.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which becomes a single point of failure for the whole system.
As opposed to the file system being the single point failure?
On 2008-10-21, Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, the normal place to store settings on Windows is in the registry.
Which becomes a single point of failure for the whole system.
LOL :-)
BTW famous big popular programs like firefox and thunderbird
will store their
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ross Ridge wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ross Ridge wrote:
However, the normal place to store settings on Windows is in the
registry.
Which becomes a single point of failure for the whole system.
As opposed to the file system being
Ross Ridge wrote:
As opposed to the file system being the single point failure?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The file system is involved regardless. But leaving out an additional
layer of failure on top of it does make things more robust, yes.
No, that doesn't follow. Having
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:40:32 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Linux, config files should go into:
~/.appname/ or /etc/appname/
In Windows (which versions?) then should go into the Documents And
Settings
Stef Mientki wrote:
Duncan, in windows it's begin to become less common to store settings in
DocsSettings,
because these directories are destroyed by roaming profiles (a big
reason why I can't run Picassa ;-(
It's more common to follow the portable apps approach, store them in the
application
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:50:46 +0200, Stef Mientki wrote:
Duncan, in windows it's begin to become less common to store settings in
DocsSettings,
because these directories are destroyed by roaming profiles (a big
reason why I can't run Picassa ;-(
It's more common to follow the portable apps
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:20:06 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:40:32 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Linux, config files should go into:
~/.appname/ or /etc/appname/
In Windows (which
[2] And they are right to do so. Programs that dump config files and
directories, hidden or not, in the top level of the user's home directory
are incredibly rude. It may have been a Unix standard for as long as
there has been a Unix, but it's still the programming equivalent of
coming
Eric Wertman a écrit :
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
I'm in agreement that perfect probably isn't applicable. If I were
doing this myself, I might store the information in a tuple:
base = 'some root structure ('/' or 'C')
make it C:\
path =
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Eric Wertman a écrit :
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
I'm in agreement that perfect probably isn't applicable. If I were
doing this myself, I might store the information in a tuple:
base = 'some root structure ('/' or
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:56:22 +0200, Stef Mientki wrote:
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Eric Wertman a écrit :
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
I'm in agreement that perfect probably isn't applicable. If I were
doing this myself, I might store the
Do you really think there are Linux or Mac systems with a C: drive?
This whole question is based on the ludicrous assumption that general
file system paths can be platform-independent. That's a bit like trying
to write code that is programming language-independent.
That's sort of where I
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stef
Mientki wrote:
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
URLs beginning file://.
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ross Ridge wrote:
However, the normal place to store settings on Windows is in the registry.
Which becomes a single point of failure for the whole system.
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
Do you really think there are Linux or Mac systems with a C: drive?
And what about files on Dimdows systems kept on a drive other than C?
This whole question is based on the ludicrous assumption that general
file system paths can be
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
And 75% [1] of average Windows users will either delete the file, move it
to a more convenient[2] location, or edit the file name to remove the dot.
Doesn't seem very likely to me. Experienced Dimdows users would well know
that stuffing
hello,
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
I can think of something like:
- use a relative path if drive is identical to the application (I'm
still a Windows guy)
- use some kind of OS-dependent translation table if on another drive
- use ? if on a
On Oct 19, 8:35 am, Stef Mientki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
I don't think there is any such thing. What problem are you trying to
solve?
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:35:01 +0200, Stef Mientki wrote:
hello,
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
Perfect? I can't imagine any scheme which will work on every imaginable
OS, past present and future.
However, in practice I think there are two
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Linux, config files should go into:
~/.appname/ or /etc/appname/
In Windows (which versions?) then should go into the Documents And
Settings folder, where ever that is.
There's no single string which can represent both of these conventions!
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
import os
os.path.splitdrive('C://My Documents/My File.txt')
('C:', 'My Documents\\My File.txt')
I had to fake the above output because I'm not running Windows, so
excuse me if I got it wrong.
Not that it matters, but:
On 2008-10-19, Stef Mientki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
The question appears to me to be meaningless. File paths are
not OS independant, so an OS-independant way to store them
doesn't seem to be a useful thing to talk
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
I'm in agreement that perfect probably isn't applicable. If I were
doing this myself, I might store the information in a tuple:
base = 'some root structure ('/' or 'C')
path = ['some','set','of','path','names']
Eric Wertman wrote:
I (again) wonder what's the perfect way to store, OS-independent,
filepaths ?
I'm in agreement that perfect probably isn't applicable. If I were
doing this myself, I might store the information in a tuple:
base = 'some root structure ('/' or 'C')
path =
Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Linux, config files should go into:
~/.appname/ or /etc/appname/
In Windows (which versions?) then should go into the Documents And
Settings folder, where ever that is.
There's no single string which can represent both
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:40:32 +, Duncan Booth wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In Linux, config files should go into:
~/.appname/ or /etc/appname/
In Windows (which versions?) then should go into the Documents And
Settings folder, where ever that is.
There's no
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:50:46 +0200, Stef Mientki wrote:
Duncan, in windows it's begin to become less common to store settings in
DocsSettings,
because these directories are destroyed by roaming profiles
Isn't *everything* destroyed by roaming profiles? *wink*
Seriously, I don't know anyone
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