Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Jake Angulo
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. ... I wanted to know what will I need? 1 learn network/socket

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Jake Angulo jake.ang...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done.

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Thu, 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico wrote: ... You can certainly do your server-side programming directly in Python; in fact, I recommend it for this task. There's no reason to use HTTP, much less a web framework (which usually consists of a structured way to build HTML pages, plus a bunch of

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jorgen Grahn grahn+n...@snipabacken.se wrote: On Thu, 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico wrote: ... You can certainly do your server-side programming directly in Python; in fact, I recommend it for this task. There's no reason to use HTTP, much less a web framework

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. A good thing to start with. Yes, it's been done before, many times... but if you

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll need downloadable clients if I want to make something like google talk. Then I'll need to

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for clients of chat system. I think I'll need downloadable

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Chris Angelico Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be useful. I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with things. I am not looking for a debate or anything just a opinion. I learnt Python myself and everyone told me that

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.07.18 01:36, Aseem Bansal wrote: I learnt Python myself and everyone told me that Python 2 is status quo so I learned Python 2 and have been working with it. I am just 1.5 months in Python programming so should I consider switching to Python 3 if it helps with new things or should I

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @Chris Angelico Thanks. That cleared many doubts and your suggestions would definitely be useful. I am asking the next paragraph because you said about Python 3 helping with things. I am not looking for a debate or

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Andrew Berg @Chris Angelico Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different commands for invoking python 2 and Python 3? I am using Windows 7 and use Windows Powershell as an alternative to the

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @Andrew Berg @Chris Angelico Is there a way to have both Python 2 and 3 installed on my computer till I can update the little codebase that I have built? Can I make different commands for invoking python 2 and Python

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@ChrisA Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python 3 and start updating today. About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I have never read a newsgroup leave alone participated in one. I am used to forums like stackoverflow. Any

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @ChrisA Thanks. That's great. That solved the whole thing easily. I'll install Python 3 and start updating today. About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? I have never read a

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
@ChrisA I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted before my subscription? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @ChrisA I subscribed to it. How do I reply to a message that has already been posted before my subscription? Not easily, far as I know. But you now have this reply, and you can always just post something with the right

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Aseem Bansal
I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it to python-list@python.org? Or do I need to use pytho...@python.org as you wrote in your post? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I tried replying to your message by mail. I used the reply button and send it to python-list@python.org? Or do I need to use pytho...@python.org as you wrote in your post? You replied correctly. The ellipsis was

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread aseem bansal
Ok I'll mail by e-mail now. Hope that it reaches the place correctly.-- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-18, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: @vikash agrawal About GUI I discussed it at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/comp.lang.python/M-Dy2pyWRfM and I am thinking about using PySide 1.2 for

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference between the mailing list interface and newsgroup interface is that the latter automatically segregates

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy написав(ла): On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference between the mailing list interface and newsgroup interface is that

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-18, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote: 18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy ??(): On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read this list as a newsgroup use news.gmane.org. The difference

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Owen Marshall
On 2013-07-18, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: On 2013-07-18, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote: 18.07.13 20:04, Terry Reedy ??(): On 7/18/2013 3:29 AM, Aseem Bansal wrote: About reading comp.lang.python can you suggest how to read it and reply? To read

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/17/2013 11:39 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: Not discourage you but this is a been there, done that kind of project. You could learn more from reading somebody else is code. What hasn't been done, and this would be very cool, is a chat program that works peer-to-peer with no central

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/18/2013 12:19 PM, Owen Marshall wrote: Huh - I (foolishly) didn't realize gmane actually had NNTP, I've always used it to search mailing lists. If the list dumped to usenet (much like c.l.python) I'd post through sunsite.dk, which is a very nice usenet provider. But that still meant

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-18 Thread Owen Marshall
On 2013-07-18, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/18/2013 12:19 PM, Owen Marshall wrote: Huh - I (foolishly) didn't realize gmane actually had NNTP, I've always used it to search mailing lists. If the list dumped to usenet (much like c.l.python) I'd post through sunsite.dk, which is

What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Aseem Bansal
I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. I wanted to know what will I need? I think that would require me these 1 learn network/socket programming 2 find a free server to host my chat server 3 GUI

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread vikash agrawal
Hi Aseem, First of all great thought and all the best for the learning! On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. I wanted

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Eric S. Johansson
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:36:17 -0400, Aseem Bansal asmbans...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to do a little project for learning Python. I thought a chat system will be good as it isn't something that I have ever done. I wanted to know what will I need? I think that would require me these 1 learn

Re: What does it take to implement a chat system in Python (Not asking for code just advice before I start my little project)

2013-07-17 Thread Aseem Bansal
@Eric S. Johansson I am a novice who hasn't done any big project in programming. I haven't done anything I can even call a moderate project. I haven't touched web frameworks ever. I have little or no knowledge of network/socket programming. I have never used databases before. I understand