Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-13 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/12/06, Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel much more productive in bash than in most Windows apps. (I still like to have several terminal windows though.) Perhaps you have used GNU screen. It's on my definitive list of winners. (As an added bonus, using screen via SSH

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-12 Thread Magnus Lycka
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-12 Thread Stephan Kuhagen
Magnus Lycka wrote: ... I'd suggest that the OP look at the Wikipedia page in Unix Philosophy. Read about Gancarz tenets, and replace shell scripts with Python. (Of course, Python offers more elaborate communication than pipes.) I'd also the link to Joel Spolsky's Biculturalism article, and

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-10 Thread Theerasak Photha
On 10/9/06, Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-09 Thread Magnus Lycka
gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. Python runs on

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-05 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment.

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-05 Thread Andy Dingley
gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. I use it, and see it primarily, as a Perl killer. It also does for Ruby and our infernal shell scripts. I've never considered using Python instead of VB.

RE: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-05 Thread Sells, Fred
Every C++ and Java programmer that I know, who have done a moderate sized project in Python (thus requiring learning it's strengths) states that they hope to never go back to C++ or Java. I cannot comment on VB programmers, since I don't speak to them ;) --

Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread gord
As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. What is particularly

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Fredrik Lundh
gord wrote: What is particularly disappointing is the absence of a Windows IDE, components and an event driven paradigm. How does Python stand relative to the big 3, namely Visual C++, Visual Basic and Delphi? if you think those are the big 3, you should perhaps start by asking yourself

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread James Stroud
gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. What is

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Paddy
gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. What is

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread hg
gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. What is

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread hg
hg wrote: gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment.

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Chase
Not sure if this is a troll...I've seen several of these sorts of posts on the list. But it seems innocent enough, so I'll bite. :) I'm not sure Delphi is really one of the big 3...surprisingly Java and C# don't make your list. What is particularly disappointing is the absence of a Windows

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Virgil Dupras
On Oct 4, 4:21 pm, gord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Thomas Jollans
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:21:21 -0400 gord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] all in a DOS-like environment. Python is an extremely multi-purpose language that is not dependant on GUIs or similiar riff-raff. It can be run in DOS or DOS-like systems, but that is your choice, not python's. Python has a

RE: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Demel, Jeff
Tim Chase wrote: Visual Basic compared to Python --- VB shares some interesting aspects with Python...namely it's much more readable than the other two. It's syntax is clunky at best, with goto's, and cobbled-on exception handling (at least in VB-Classic, as opposed to

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Cameron Laird
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], hg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . Code in Python and decide for yourself ... but again, nowadays, you're to compare with C#, VB ... if you want to be in; that is. hg One of the points that's

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Larry Bates
gord wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like environment. What is

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Rob Knapp
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 16:21 -0400, gord wrote: What is particularly disappointing is the absence of a Windows IDE, components and an event driven paradigm. How does Python stand relative to the big 3, namely Visual C++, Visual Basic and Delphi? I realize that these programming packages are

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/4/06, gord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic calculations - all in a DOS-like

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread gord
A very lively feedback indeed. I appreciate most of the points discussed and will persevere with the language until I understand the more powerful aspects of it. Then I will try the GUIs that were mentioned. Many thanks, Gord. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Carl Trachte
I came from a VB/VBA environment before using Python. My experience has been that Python has a lot more free, pre-coded tools within its community to do the sort of things I do in my job (geometric algorithms, date-time functions, processing and accessing lists of items, scientific programming,

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carl Trachte wrote: I came from a VB/VBA environment before using Python. My experience has been that Python has a lot more free, pre-coded tools within its community to do the sort of things I do in my job (geometric algorithms, date-time functions, processing and accessing lists of items,