Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-30 Thread Lie Ryan
On 12/30/2009 6:21 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/29/2009 5:10 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Lie Ryan wrote: If you're on Windows, don't use the Edit with IDLE right-click hotkey since that starts IDLE without subprocess. Use the shortcut installed in your Start menu. When I go to Start

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-29 Thread W. eWatson
Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/29/2009 5:10 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Lie Ryan wrote: If you're on Windows, don't use the Edit with IDLE right-click hotkey since that starts IDLE without subprocess. Use the shortcut installed in your Start menu. When I go to Start and select IDLE, Saves or Opens want to

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-28 Thread W. eWatson
It the IDLE shell, it's not possible to retrieve lines entered earlier without copying them. Is there an edit facility? I suggest you download a programmers' editor (like Notepad++ or PsPad) for programming work and use the basic Python interpreter for interactive work. The basic

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-28 Thread W. eWatson
Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/22/2009 12:06 PM, W. eWatson wrote: ... You must be starting IDLE without subprocess. Did you see this message IDLE 2.6.1 No Subprocess when starting IDLE. Yes, I usually start in a folder where I have my py program files, and do a right-click for IDLE

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-28 Thread Lie Ryan
On 12/29/2009 5:10 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Lie Ryan wrote: If you're on Windows, don't use the Edit with IDLE right-click hotkey since that starts IDLE without subprocess. Use the shortcut installed in your Start menu. When I go to Start and select IDLE, Saves or Opens want to go into

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-22 Thread Lie Ryan
On 12/22/2009 12:06 PM, W. eWatson wrote: Stephen Hansen wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: [snip Now, I go to the script and enter from math import * dir is now bulked up with the math functions. I change back math.cos to cos and the program runs

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Alf P. Steinbach: * W. eWatson: When I use numpy.__doc__ in IDLE under Win XP, I get a heap of words without reasonable line breaks. \nNumPy\n=\n\nProvides\n 1. An array object of arbitrary homogeneous items\n 2. Fast mathematical operations over arrays\n 3. Linear Algebra, Fourier

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread W. eWatson
Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/21/2009 1:19 PM, W. eWatson wrote: When I use numpy.__doc__ in IDLE under Win XP, I get a heap of words without reasonable line breaks. \nNumPy\n=\n\nProvides\n 1. An array object of arbitrary homogeneous items\n 2. Fast mathematical operations over arrays\n 3.

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread Lie Ryan
On 12/22/2009 6:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Wow, did I get a bad result. I hit Ctrl-P, I think instead of Alt-P, and a little window came up showing it was about to print hundreds of pages. I can canceled it, but too late. I turned off my printer quickly and eventually stopped the onslaught. I

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread W. eWatson
Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/22/2009 6:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Wow, did I get a bad result. I hit Ctrl-P, I think instead of Alt-P, and a little window came up showing it was about to print hundreds of pages. I can canceled it, but too late. I turned off my printer quickly and eventually stopped the

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/22/2009 6:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Wow, did I get a bad result. I hit Ctrl-P, I think instead of Alt-P, and a little window came up showing it was about to print hundreds of pages. I can canceled

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread W. eWatson
Stephen Hansen wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/22/2009 6:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Wow, did I get a bad result. I hit Ctrl-P, I think instead of Alt-P, and No, its not true. A built-in module does not mean its available

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread Stephen Hansen
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: This has got to be some sort of IDLE issue then. Huh? How do you figure? When I run a simple program. If I open this program in the IDLE editor: #import math print hello, math world. print cos(0.5) print sin(0.8)

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-21 Thread W. eWatson
Stephen Hansen wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: This has got to be some sort of IDLE issue then. Huh? How do you figure? When I run a simple program. If I open this program in the IDLE editor: #import math print hello, math world. print

Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-20 Thread W. eWatson
When I use numpy.__doc__ in IDLE under Win XP, I get a heap of words without reasonable line breaks. \nNumPy\n=\n\nProvides\n 1. An array object of arbitrary homogeneous items\n 2. Fast mathematical operations over arrays\n 3. Linear Algebra, Fourier Transforms, Random Number ... Is

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-20 Thread W. eWatson
Add to this. Isn't there a way to see the arguments and descriptions of functions? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-20 Thread Lie Ryan
On 12/21/2009 1:19 PM, W. eWatson wrote: When I use numpy.__doc__ in IDLE under Win XP, I get a heap of words without reasonable line breaks. \nNumPy\n=\n\nProvides\n 1. An array object of arbitrary homogeneous items\n 2. Fast mathematical operations over arrays\n 3. Linear Algebra,

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-20 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:16 PM, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: When I use numpy.__doc__ in IDLE under Win XP, I get a heap of words without reasonable line breaks. \nNumPy\n=\n\nProvides\n  1. An array object of arbitrary homogeneous items\n  2. Fast mathematical operations

Re: Windows, IDLE, __doc_, other

2009-12-20 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* W. eWatson: When I use numpy.__doc__ in IDLE under Win XP, I get a heap of words without reasonable line breaks. \nNumPy\n=\n\nProvides\n 1. An array object of arbitrary homogeneous items\n 2. Fast mathematical operations over arrays\n 3. Linear Algebra, Fourier Transforms, Random