Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-12 Thread E.D.G.
E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote in message news:yo-dnwfmi7_7d-jpnz2dnuvz_hqdn...@earthlink.com... Posted by E.D.G. on November 12, 2013 The following is part of a note that I just posted to the Perl Newsgroup. But it is actually intended for all computer programmers who are

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote: The point is, when people want to make some computer program available for use by others around the world they might want to circulate a version of their program that has such a simple format that anyone can understand

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-10 Thread sigtool
On Q4, you could try Waterloo Graphics http://waterloo.sourceforge.net. Its LGPLv3 and, although Java-based, runs in Python via Py4J. It has built-in mouse interactivity/GUI editors etc that will all be active when used from Python. It is Java Swing-based, so e.g. data points can be drawn as

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-07 Thread 88888 Dihedral
On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:22:05 PM UTC+8, E.D.G. wrote: Jim Gibson jimsgib...@gmail.com wrote in message news:031120131018099327%jimsgib...@gmail.com... One way to generate plot within a CGI program is this: To start off with, I am not a CGI expert. Also, I have

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-04 Thread E.D.G.
Jim Gibson jimsgib...@gmail.com wrote in message news:031120131018099327%jimsgib...@gmail.com... One way to generate plot within a CGI program is this: To start off with, I am not a CGI expert. Also, I have several degrees in the physical sciences and many years of doing computer

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote in message news:udgdnadga6n9vu_pnz2dnuvz_umdn...@earthlink.com... Thanks for all of the comments. I have been away from my Internet connection for several days and could not respond to them when they were first posted here. The comments have

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message news:mailman.1873.1383227352.18130.python-l...@python.org... https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pywinauto/0.3.9 or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1823762/sendkeys-for-python-3-1-on-windows Python SendKey looks like it probably works about

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
William Ray Wing w...@mac.com wrote in message news:mailman.1934.1383320554.18130.python-l...@python.org... If you look here: http://wiki.wxpython.org/MatplotlibFourierDemo A suggestion that I would like to add is that when people make Demo programs like that available they might

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread rusi
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:15:48 AM UTC+5:30, E.D.G. wrote: rusi wrote: Not sure what will… you may look at Julia: http://julialang.org/ That program language speed comparison table looks quite interesting. And I asked some of the other people that I work with to take a look at

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:02:24 -0500, E.D.G. wrote: [...] Since Perl has a calculation speed limit that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another language will be selected for initially doing certain things such as performing calculations and plotting charts. And the existing

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote in message news:5275fe91$0$29972$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com... http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/06/15/numba-vs-cython-take-2/ http://technicaldiscovery.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/speeding-up-python-numpy-cython-and.html

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/11/2013 09:47, E.D.G. wrote: Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote in message news:5275fe91$0$29972$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com... http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/06/15/numba-vs-cython-take-2/

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Jim Gibson
In article okcdnxfaqqxze-jpnz2dnuvz_jgdn...@earthlink.com, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My main, complex programs won't be run at Web sites. They will instead continue to be available as downloadable exe programs. The CGI (or whatever) programming work would involve

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread rusi
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:13:13 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:02:24 -0500, E.D.G. wrote: [...] Since Perl has a calculation speed limit that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another language will be selected for initially doing certain

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/11/2013 18:28, rusi wrote: Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it up in python and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code. And see what comparative performance you get. Solely on the grounds that you've mentioned julia how about this

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-03, Jim Gibson jimsgib...@gmail.com wrote: In article okcdnxfaqqxze-jpnz2dnuvz_jgdn...@earthlink.com, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My main, complex programs won't be run at Web sites. They will instead continue to be available as downloadable exe programs. The CGI

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread rusi
On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:28:24 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 03/11/2013 18:28, rusi wrote: Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it up in python and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code. And see what comparative performance you get. Solely on the

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-02 Thread E.D.G.
rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote in message news:1e63687b-4269-42d9-8700-e3a8dcc57...@googlegroups.com... Not sure what will… you may look at Julia: http://julialang.org/ That program language speed comparison table looks quite interesting. And I asked some of the other people that I

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-01 Thread William Ray Wing
On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:31 AM, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Posted by E.D.G. on October 31, 2013 The following are several relatively basic questions regarding Python's capabilities. I am not presently using it myself. At the moment a number of people including myself are

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-01 Thread Ethan Furman
On 11/01/2013 08:42 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: Granted, this performance is based on pulling in libraries. It imports numpy, mathplotlib, and wx to handle the fast array calculations, the plotting, and the GUI respectively, but those are exactly the sorts of batteries included libraries

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-01 Thread William Ray Wing
On Nov 1, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: On 11/01/2013 08:42 AM, William Ray Wing wrote: Granted, this performance is based on pulling in libraries. It imports numpy, mathplotlib, and wx to handle the fast array calculations, the plotting, and the GUI

Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread E.D.G.
Posted by E.D.G. on October 31, 2013 The following are several relatively basic questions regarding Python's capabilities. I am not presently using it myself. At the moment a number of people including myself are comparing it with other programs such as XBasic for possible use. 1.

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:31 AM, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Posted by E.D.G. on October 31, 2013 The following are several relatively basic questions regarding Python's capabilities. I am not presently using it myself. At the moment a number of people including myself are

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread E.D.G.
Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 Hi Chris, Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc. Presently I am

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:38 AM, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 no need to write that. Hi Chris, Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Roy Smith
In article udgdnadga6n9vu_pnz2dnuvz_umdn...@earthlink.com, E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote: 1. How fast can Python do math calculations compared with other languages such as Fortran and fast versions of Basic. I would have to believe that it is much faster than Perl for doing math

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Alain Ketterlin
E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc. These are not simple computations. Any compiled language (Fortran, C, C++, typically) will

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 31/10/2013 10:38, E.D.G. wrote: Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 Hi Chris, Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin al...@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr wrote: E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc. These are

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 31/10/2013 13:17, Alain Ketterlin wrote: E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc. These are not simple computations. Any compiled

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Alain Ketterlin
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin al...@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr wrote: E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-10-31 14:05, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin al...@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr wrote: E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Alain Ketterlin al...@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr wrote: Well, sure, yes, I agree with you and hope they are left to the FP engine (still, fp ops are often multi-cycle, but that's a minor point). But what I meant was: a (bytecode) interpreted program will always be

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-31 14:05, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin al...@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr wrote: E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes: The calculation speed question just involves

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Alain Ketterlin
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk writes: On 31/10/2013 13:17, Alain Ketterlin wrote: E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes: The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and divisions and trig calculations such as sin and tan etc.

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-10-31 14:49, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:41 AM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-31 14:05, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Alain Ketterlin al...@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr wrote: E.D.G. edgrs...@ix.netcom.com writes:

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread rusi
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:08:48 PM UTC+5:30, E.D.G. wrote: Posted by E.D.G. October 31, 2013 Hi Chris, Thanks for the responses. Several of my questions were answered. The calculation speed question just involves relatively simple math such as multiplications and

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Skip Montanaro
1. How fast can Python do math calculations compared with other languages such as Fortran and fast versions of Basic. I would have to believe that it is much faster than Perl for doing math calculations. As others have indicated, a lot depends on the form of your calculations. There is a

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-19 Thread Paul McGuire
Hendrik van Rooyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am currently going to school at Utah Valley State College, the course that I am taking is analysis of programming languages. It's an upper division course but our teacher wanted to teach

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-19 Thread John Machin
Paddy wrote: John Machin wrote: [Aside] How are you going to explain all this to your instructor, who may be reading all this right now? The instructor should be proud! He has managed to do his very first post to a this newsgroup, about a homework question, and do it in the right

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I normaly try to be as resourceful as I can. I find that newgroups give a wide range of answers and solutions to problems and you get a lot responses to what is the right way to do things and different point of views about the language that you can't find in help manuals. I also want to thank

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-19 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Diez B. Roggisch a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have taken the coments and think I have implemented most. My only Unfortunately, no. question is how to use the enumerator. Here is what I did, I have tried a couple of things but was unable to figure out how to get the line

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: def Xref(filename): try: fp = open(filename, r) lines = fp.readlines() fp.close() except: raise Couldn't read input file \%s\ % filename dict = {} for line_num in xrange(len(lines)): Instead

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a simple assignment for school but am unsure where to go. The assignment is to read in a text file, split out the words and say which line each word appears in alphabetical order. I have the basic outline of the program done which is: looks like an excellent

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread Paul McGuire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a simple assignment for school but am unsure where to go. The assignment is to read in a text file, split out the words and say which line each word appears in alphabetical order. I have the basic outline of the program done

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am currently going to school at Utah Valley State College, the course that I am taking is analysis of programming languages. It's an upper division course but our teacher wanted to teach us python as part of the course, he spent about 2 - 3 weeks on python which has been good. I currently work

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have taken the coments and think I have implemented most. My only question is how to use the enumerator. Here is what I did, I have tried a couple of things but was unable to figure out how to get the line number. def Xref(filename): try: fp = open(filename, r) except:

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have taken the coments and think I have implemented most. My only question is how to use the enumerator. Here is what I did, I have tried a couple of things but was unable to figure out how to get the line number. Try this in the interpreter, l = [5,4,3,2,1]

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread tom
tom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have taken the coments and think I have implemented most. My only question is how to use the enumerator. Here is what I did, I have tried a couple of things but was unable to figure out how to get the line number. Try this in the

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have taken the coments and think I have implemented most. My only Unfortunately, no. question is how to use the enumerator. Here is what I did, I have tried a couple of things but was unable to figure out how to get the line number. def Xref(filename):

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread Mark Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dict = {} As a general rule you should avoid variable names which shadow built in types (list, dict, etc.). This can cause unexpected behavior later on. Also, variable names should be more descriptive of their contents. Try word_dict or some such variant --

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So I implemented the exception spcified and in testing it returns: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated I am not to worried about depreciation warning however, out of curiosity, what would the better way be to handle this? Is there a way that (web site, help

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So I implemented the exception spcified and in testing it returns: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated I am not to worried about depreciation warning however, out of curiosity, what would the better way be to handle this? Is there a way that (web site, help

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread John Machin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I implemented the exception spcified and in testing it returns: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated I am not to worried about depreciation warning however, out of curiosity, what would the better way be to handle this? Is there a way that

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread Paddy
John Machin wrote: [Aside] How are you going to explain all this to your instructor, who may be reading all this right now? The instructor should be proud! He has managed to do his very first post to a this newsgroup, about a homework question, and do it in the right way. that is no mean

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-18 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am currently going to school at Utah Valley State College, the course that I am taking is analysis of programming languages. It's an upper division course but our teacher wanted to teach us python as part of what does upper division mean in this context ? I am

basic python questions

2006-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a simple assignment for school but am unsure where to go. The assignment is to read in a text file, split out the words and say which line each word appears in alphabetical order. I have the basic outline of the program done which is: def Xref(filename): try: fp =

Re: basic python questions

2006-11-17 Thread Paddy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a simple assignment for school but am unsure where to go. The assignment is to read in a text file, split out the words and say which line each word appears in alphabetical order. I have the basic outline of the program done which is: def Xref(filename):