Tim Peters wrote:
...
tuhple is a girly-man affectation. That's why Guido and I both say
the manly toople.
...
Yes, but doesn't Guido say 'Guido' with some sort of strange faux-manly
'H'-ish sortta sound?
methinks-the-lady-doth-protest-too-much-ly y'rs,
=g2
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So thats were its from.
My Parents used to quote it to me when I were a 'wee lad',
So they read Burns
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Paddy wrote:
So thats were its from.
My Parents used to quote it to me when I were a 'wee lad',
So they read Burns
Maybe, it's fairly well known. But I rendered it incorrectly, the actual
quote is
Mony a mickle maks a muckle
me-and-my-fingers-ly y'rs - steve
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Roy Smith wrote:
Erik Max Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(A 2-tuple is an ordered pair in mathematics.) If a 2-tuple is a
pair, then it would seem to follow that a 1-tuple is a single.
Yeah, but an *ordered* single :-)
A more interesting question is what do you call ()? A none-tuple?
Hmm,
I've found a term for a large tuple, a muckle:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=enq=define%3AmucklebtnG=Searchmeta=
Definitions of muckle on the Web:
* batch: (often followed by `of') a large number or amount or
extent; a batch of letters; a deal of trouble; a lot of money;
he made a
(dupple, supple, zupple) = (2,1,0) # :-)
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[Terry Hancock]
So what's a 1-element tuple, anyway? A mople? monople?
It does seem like this lopsided pythonic creature (1,) ought
to have a name to reflect its ugly, newbie-unfriendly
nature.
It's a trip-you-uple, which you can pronounce anyway you like ;-)
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Alan Kennedy wrote:
[Terry Hancock]
So what's a 1-element tuple, anyway? A mople? monople?
It does seem like this lopsided pythonic creature (1,) ought
to have a name to reflect its ugly, newbie-unfriendly
nature.
It's a trip-you-uple, which you can pronounce anyway you like ;-)
All I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Then we went to hear Guido speak about Python 2.2 at a ZPUG meeting in
Washington, DC. When he said toople I almost fell out of my chair
laughing, particularly because the people who taught me to say it the
right way were with me. When I looked over, they just hung
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
I work with Guido now and I'm conflicted. I'm still conditioned to say
tuhple. Whenever he says toople, I just get a smile on my face. I
think most of the PythonLabs guys pronounce it toople.
tuhple is a girly-man affectation. That's why Guido and I both say
the
Erik Max Francis wrote:
If a 4-tuple is a quadruple, a 3-tuple is a triple, a
2-tuple is an pair, then I guess a 1-tuple would be a single. Granted
that's not nearly as gruesome enough a name to go with the special
lopsided Pythonic creature mentioned above. I suggest we name it a
Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the-acid-test-is-whether-you-say-xor-with-one-syllable-or-three-ly y'rs
I pronounce it with two.
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Tim Peters wrote:
tuhple is a girly-man affectation. That's why Guido and I both say
the manly toople.
Heh heh. Actually, 'toople' sounds like a noun to me, and 'tuple' sounds
like a verb, so I prefer 'toople' anyway.
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:40:09AM -0500, Tim Peters wrote:
the-acid-test-is-whether-you-say-xor-with-one-syllable-or-three-ly y'rs -
tim
Zorr! of course.
Saying All hail the mighty Exclusive Or! would just sound silly.
-jackdied
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Paddy wrote:
Hmm,
I've found a term for a large tuple, a muckle:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=enq=define%3AmucklebtnG=Searchmeta=
Definitions of muckle on the Web:
* batch: (often followed by `of') a large number or amount or
extent; a batch of letters; a deal of trouble; a
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:40:09 -0500
Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the-acid-test-is-whether-you-say-xor-with-one-syllable-
or-three-ly y'rs - tim --
Oh dear, I say it with two, am I just not cool, or what?
;-)
ex-or
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Anansi Spaceworks
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:16:18 -0600
Rocco Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erik Max Francis wrote:
If a 4-tuple is a quadruple, a 3-tuple is a triple, a
2-tuple is an pair, then I guess a 1-tuple would be a
single. Granted that's not nearly as gruesome enough a
name to go with the
John Salerno wrote:
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation option is 'tuhple'
I went to university in Pittsburgh and work in Washington, DC. I've
only ever heard it as toople.
If I
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:30:25 -0500, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
I teach on both sides of the Atlantic, and have learned to draw a mental
breath before trying to pronounce the word router. Americans find the
British
Yeah, I was going to say it's I-66, not Route 66, which has been
replaced in pertainent parts by I-40.
tuh-ple.
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Markus Wankus wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think it is pronounced ménage à trois.
LOL. You guys are hilarious. I think I made the right decision to start
learning Python! :)
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Erik Max Francis wrote:
Even in mathematics, a tuple, or formally an n-tuple, makes more sense
to me pronounced the latter if you list out the various pronounciations
for large n, seems me the _uhs_ outweigh the _oos_. (There's quadruple
on one side, but then quintuple, sextuple,
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Markus Wankus wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think it is pronounced ménage à trois.
LOL. You guys are hilarious. I think I made the right decision
to start learning Python! :)
Of course! What did you expect from devotees of a language
named
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Markus Wankus wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think it is pronounced ménage à trois.
LOL. You guys are hilarious. I think I made the right decision
to start learning Python! :)
Of course! What did you expect from
Steve Holden wrote:
No, no, no. The correct pronunciation is tyoople (or, if you're being
lazy, choople). Anything else is wrong, but we English are usually
prepared to forgive foreigners their ignorance :-)
[If I pronounced as badly as I type nobody would ever know what I was
saying].
John Salerno wrote:
Erik Max Francis wrote:
Even in mathematics, a tuple, or formally an n-tuple, makes more sense
to me pronounced the latter if you list out the various pronounciations
for large n, seems me the _uhs_ outweigh the _oos_. (There's quadruple
on one side, but then
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Markus Wankus wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think it is pronounced ménage à trois.
LOL. You guys are hilarious. I think I made the right decision
to start learning
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Markus Wankus wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think it is pronounced ménage à trois.
LOL. You guys are hilarious. I think I made the right decision
John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :)
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:52:30 -0800
Erik Max Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even in mathematics, a tuple, or formally an n-tuple,
makes more sense to me pronounced the latter if you list
out the various pronounciations for large n, seems me the
_uhs_ outweigh the _oos_. (There's quadruple
Its tupple surely.
The following shows that we are not the first to ponder this:
http://www.jot.fm/issues/issue_2003_03/column9
Stick tuple into the Windosw XP speech properties preview box and hit
preview-voice,
it says tupple not toople. :-)
- Paddy.
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Terry Hancock wrote:
So what's a 1-element tuple, anyway? A mople? monople?
It does seem like this lopsided pythonic creature (1,) ought
to have a name to reflect its ugly, newbie-unfriendly
nature.
Are we having fun yet? ;-)
I kind of like 'moople'. :)
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:30:25 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Salerno wrote:
[...]
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 08:52:06PM +, John Salerno wrote:
Terry Hancock wrote:
So what's a 1-element tuple, anyway? A mople? monople?
It does seem like this lopsided pythonic creature (1,) ought
to have a name to reflect its ugly, newbie-unfriendly
nature.
Are we having fun
John Salerno schrieb:
Terry Hancock wrote:
So what's a 1-element tuple, anyway? A mople? monople?
It does seem like this lopsided pythonic creature (1,) ought
to have a name to reflect its ugly, newbie-unfriendly
nature.
Are we having fun yet? ;-)
I kind of like 'moople'. :)
tuples
Dave Hansen wrote:
I've seen route pronounced rout or root depending on the
background and mood of the speaker
I actually came up with a method that I use: rout for a verb, root
for a noun. So Route 66 is Root 66, and routing an army is rOUTing an
army. :)
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Peter Maas wrote:
I wouldn't mind calling (1,) a simple but I'm not a native English
speaker so I have no idea wether it sounds ridiculous to English
ears. If simple is too simple for you just call it simplum or simplon
or simplex.
Heh heh, simple is weird.
How about this: one-uple, which
Dave Hansen wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:30:25 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Salerno wrote:
[...]
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:30:43 +0100 in comp.lang.python, Peter Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Salerno schrieb:
Terry Hancock wrote:
So what's a 1-element tuple, anyway? A mople? monople?
It does seem like this lopsided pythonic creature (1,) ought
to have a name to reflect its ugly,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen route pronounced rout or root depending on the
background and mood of the speaker, though in this part of the country
(midwest, though middle might be more accurate) the former
pronunciation is far more common.
Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Latin n-tuple
---
... ...
triplex triple
duplexduple
simplex simple
Would a 9-tuple be a nipple?
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:46:26 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:30:25 -0500 in comp.lang.python, Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Tyoople, toople or tupple depending on who you are, where you grew
up and who
Grant Edwards wrote:
Well, I hope this doesn't make me lose credibility, but I've
actually never seen the show! I saw Holy Grail several years
ago, though. But I'm very curious about this whole cheese shop
skit, so when I get home tonight I'm going to download it. :)
IMO, it's not as good
Dave Hansen schrieb:
Latin n-tuple
---
... ...
triplex triple
duplexduple
simplex simple
When I was in 4th grade, I was taught to count to ten in latin: unos,
duos, trace, quatro, quinque, sex, septem,
Peter Maas schrieb:
But tuples mean threefold, twofold etc. and the Latin equivalents
are triplex duplex simples.
triplex duplex simplex
Peter Maas, Aachen
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Paddy wrote:
Its tupple surely.
The following shows that we are not the first to ponder this:
http://www.jot.fm/issues/issue_2003_03/column9
Stick tuple into the Windosw XP speech properties preview box and hit
preview-voice, it says tupple not toople. :-)
Which only goes to prove
Roy Smith wrote:
Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Latin n-tuple
---
... ...
triplex triple
duplexduple
simplex simple
Would a 9-tuple be a nipple?
Perhaps, but if you're a dairy farmer, four nipples
Grant Edwards wrote:
Of course! What did you expect from devotees of a language
named after one of the greatest comedy shows in TV history?
Seriously? Endless references to it until it gets painfully old :-(.
The Python language, at least, has seemed to have gotten past that point
in its
Terry Hancock wrote:
I doubt that helps much: I pronounce all of those words
(when I use them, which is not too often) as -toopel. The
only tuple I pronounce with the -uh- is couple, and I
usually call that a two-tuple when dealing with Python.
I prefer the name _pair_ :-).
I suspect that
Peter Maas wrote:
tuples are of latin origin, so one can derive the tuple words
systematically:
Latin n-tuple
---
... ...
triplex triple
duplexduple
simplex simple
Yeah but there's already plenty of
Erik Max Francis wrote:
Terry Hancock wrote:
I doubt that helps much: I pronounce all of those words
(when I use them, which is not too often) as -toopel. The
only tuple I pronounce with the -uh- is couple, and I
usually call that a two-tuple when dealing with Python.
I prefer the name
Erik Max Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(A 2-tuple is an ordered pair in mathematics.) If a 2-tuple is a
pair, then it would seem to follow that a 1-tuple is a single.
Yeah, but an *ordered* single :-)
A more interesting question is what do you call ()? A none-tuple?
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Roy Smith wrote:
Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Latin n-tuple
---
... ...
triplex triple
duplexduple
simplex simple
Would a 9-tuple be a nipple?
We don't talk about that anymore since the Incident.
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Roy Smith wrote:
A more interesting question is what do you call ()? A none-tuple?
Yeah, that's at the point where it _really_ departs from anything
remotely mathematical. Don't think I've ever heard the occasion to talk
about 0-tuples in any context, though, so I don't think it's something
Erik Max Francis wrote:
Roy Smith wrote:
A more interesting question is what do you call ()? A none-tuple?
Yeah, that's at the point where it _really_ departs from anything
remotely mathematical. Don't think I've ever heard the occasion to talk
about 0-tuples in any context,
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:27:40 -0800
Erik Max Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Hancock wrote:
The only tuple I pronounce with the -uh- is couple,
and I usually call that a two-tuple when dealing with
Python.
I prefer the name _pair_ :-).
Yeah, that works too.
So what's a
Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :)
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but
which is most prevalent?
Thanks!
John Salerno wrote:
Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :)
Silly you!
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think
it's pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that
the first pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure.
Maybe it's both, but which is most prevalent?
In my
John Salerno wrote:
Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :)
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but
which is
John Salerno wrote:
Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :)
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's
pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first
pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but
which is
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-02-13, John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think
it's pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that
the first pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure.
Maybe it's both, but which is
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