Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-21 Thread Peter Maas
Xah Lee wrote: > For those reading this, i also want to mention, that although i think > Perl is a motherfucking language on earth, and its leader and > “inventor” Larry Wall has done massive damage to the computing world, > but Perl the community is in fact very tolerant in general (which is > to

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-18 Thread Ingo Menger
On 18 Apr., 01:54, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Markus E Leypold > > >> Trying to correct Xah's behaviour is probably impossible. > Ingo Menger wrote: > > Perhaps somebody could ask the chinese government to put him in jail > > for "hurting international society" :) > > Y'know, even in jest, ca

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Ken Tilton
Xah Lee wrote: > Dear Ken, > > I want to thank you for your spirit in supporting and leading the lisp > community, in spreading lisp the language both in what you have done > technically as well as evangelization, as well as the love and > knowledge attitude towards newsgroup communities in gene

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Ken Tilton
George Neuner wrote: > On 17 Apr 2007 08:20:24 -0700, Ingo Menger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>On 17 Apr., 12:33, Markus E Leypold >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>What makes Xah a troll is neither off-topic posts nor being >>>incoherent -- its the attitude. He's broadcasting his dri

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Lew
"Lew" ranted maniacally: >> Y'know, even in jest, calling for an oppressive regime to suppress even >> wrong-headed and self-serving garbage self-expression is immoral and >> horrible. How dare you? >> >> Free speech, free press and free expression of ideas is not something to >> take so lightly

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Bruce C. Baker
"Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Markus E Leypold >>> Trying to correct Xah's behaviour is probably impossible. > > Ingo Menger wrote: >> Perhaps somebody could ask the chinese government to put him in jail >> for "hurting international society" :) > > Y'know, e

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread George Neuner
On 17 Apr 2007 08:20:24 -0700, Ingo Menger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 17 Apr., 12:33, Markus E Leypold ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What makes Xah a troll is neither off-topic posts nor being >> incoherent -- its the attitude. He's broadcasting his drivel to a >> number of groups not with

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Lew
Markus E Leypold >> Trying to correct Xah's behaviour is probably impossible. Ingo Menger wrote: > Perhaps somebody could ask the chinese government to put him in jail > for "hurting international society" :) Y'know, even in jest, calling for an oppressive regime to suppress even wrong-headed an

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Ingo Menger
On 17 Apr., 12:33, Markus E Leypold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What makes Xah a troll is neither off-topic posts nor being > incoherent -- its the attitude. He's broadcasting his drivel to a > number of groups not with the intention to discuss (he hardly ever > answers to answers to his posts),

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On 4/17/07, Mirco Wahab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason why I answered your posting at all (besides > seeing your x-post going into 5 ng's) is your mentioning > of 'God'. According to christian tradition (which is > somehow on topic in a Perl group) it is exactly the > case of Jesus (imho),

Re: [OT] Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Michele Dondi
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:58:52 -0400, D Herring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- Please topquote snippets from the threads about which you are commenting. > >- Please set your newsreader to prepend "Re: " or somesuch when replying >to a toplevel post. > >- Please don't preach about "meta-talk and poli

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Mirco Wahab
Markus E Leypold wrote: > Trying to correct Xah's behaviour is probably impossible. People who > publish pictures of themselves as he does on the WWW probably don't > have any sense of embarrasment left ... you think of stuff like this www DOT m-e-leypold DOT de SLASH leypold-small.jpg ;-) >

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Markus E Leypold
Ingo Menger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 16 Apr., 23:01, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If your article is relevant to X, Y, and Z, >> please cross post it. > > Yeah right, and if it is not, don't post it at all. Your articles are > nothing but a bunch of unfounded allegations, mor

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-17 Thread Ingo Menger
On 16 Apr., 23:01, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your article is relevant to X, Y, and Z, > please cross post it. Yeah right, and if it is not, don't post it at all. Your articles are nothing but a bunch of unfounded allegations, moralism and your personal notion of what alledgedly "h

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-16 Thread Markus E Leypold
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > • Please remind yourself what is on-topic and off-topic. Unless you You, Sir, ARE off-topic. I suggest you make the experiment to post your drivel on your web site and let your fans come to you. Should be an eye opener, this experiment. Regards -- Markus

[OT] Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-16 Thread D Herring
Xah Lee wrote: > In a couple of posts in the past year i have crossed-posted (e.g. > recently “What are OOP's Jargons and Complexities”, “is laziness a > programer's virtue?”, “On Java's Interface (the meaning of interface > in computer programing)” ), there are a so

is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-16 Thread Xah Lee
2007-03-29 Dear tech geekers, In a couple of posts in the past year i have crossed-posted (e.g. recently “What are OOP's Jargons and Complexities”, “is laziness a programer's virtue?”, “On Java's Interface (the meaning of interface in computer programing)” ), there are a some c

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-16 Thread Torben Ægidius Mogensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Warnock) writes: > Daniel Gee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +--- > | You fail to understand the difference between passive laziness and > | active laziness. Passive laziness is what most people have. It's > | active laziness that is the virtue. It's the desire to

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-16 Thread Torben Ægidius Mogensen
Dan Bensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Xah Lee wrote: >> Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall >> When the sorcerer Larry Wall said “The three chief virtues of a >> programmer are: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris”, he used the word >> “laziness” to loosely imply “natural disposition that resu

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-16 Thread Rob Warnock
Daniel Gee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +--- | You fail to understand the difference between passive laziness and | active laziness. Passive laziness is what most people have. It's | active laziness that is the virtue. It's the desire to go out and / | make sure/ that you can be lazy in t

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread D Herring
Blatherskite! http://innovators.vassar.edu/innovator.html?id=8 http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/comment/2160655/laziness-mother-invention -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Cor Gest
Some entity, AKA [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote this mindboggling stuff: (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) > Of course, for functional languages, 'lazy' means something rather > different... > lazy means: just get a post-grad to do the grunt-work for free. Cor -- The biggest problem LISP has is that

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread dbenson
Of course, for functional languages, 'lazy' means something rather different... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread James Stroud
Xah Lee wrote: > Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall > > Xah Lee, 20021124 > > In the unix community there's quite a large confusion and wishful > thinking about the word laziness. In this post, i'd like to make some > clarifications. > > American Heritage Dictionary third edition defines laziness as

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Claudio Grondi
Xah Lee wrote: > [SOME FURTHER TROLLING DISTRIBUTED TO MULTIPLE NEWSGROUPS] For those who are relatively new here in comp.lang.python and not aware of the troll: It seems, that Xah still haven't learned from the impact of past abuse reports on his Internet access and tries again to pollute Usen

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Jim Ford
Xah Lee wrote: > Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall > > Xah Lee, 20021124 > > In the unix community there's quite a large confusion and wishful > thinking about the word laziness. In this post, i'd like to make some > clarifications. Years ago I used to work with someone who used to say 'I'm a lazy

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Xah Lee
Dear Ken, I want to thank you for your spirit in supporting and leading the lisp community, in spreading lisp the language both in what you have done technically as well as evangelization, as well as the love and knowledge attitude towards newsgroup communities in general, in part thru your numero

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:25:19 +0200, Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall > > Xah Lee, 20021124 > > In the unix community there's quite a large confusion and wishful > thinking about the word laziness. In this post, i'd like to make some > clarifications. > > American

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Kay Schluehr
On Apr 15, 6:25 pm, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall > > Xah Lee, 20021124 > > In the unix community there's quite a large confusion and wishful > thinking about the word laziness. In this post, i'd like to make some > clarifications. > > American Heritage Dicti

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Daniel Gee
You fail to understand the difference between passive laziness and active laziness. Passive laziness is what most people have. It's active laziness that is the virtue. It's the desire to go out and / make sure/ that you can be lazy in the future by spending just a little time writing a script now.

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Dan Bensen
Xah Lee wrote: > Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall > When the sorcerer Larry Wall said “The three chief virtues of a > programmer are: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris”, he used the word > “laziness” to loosely imply “natural disposition that results in being > economic”. Programming by definition is

is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread Xah Lee
Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall Xah Lee, 20021124 In the unix community there's quite a large confusion and wishful thinking about the word laziness. In this post, i'd like to make some clarifications. American Heritage Dictionary third edition defines laziness as: “Resistant to work or exertion;