On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:28:14 -0800, thmpsn.m.k wrote:
On Jan 31, 2:27 pm, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote:
Do you honestly believe that C++'s private members are really private?
Privateness is only enforced during parsing time. Nobody can stop you
from messing around with header files
2009/1/30 Hung Vo hungv...@gmail.com:
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow the concepts/practices of Encapsulation,
Polymorphism and Interface, which are quite familiar to Java
programmers?
It's not the role of the language to follow those
Python is not purely object oriented programming, because we can write
functions without any class.
You are right, predefined class attributes are available when we write or
execute a piece of python code without defining class, that means it's just
using objects for it's purpose. It does not mean
On 2009-01-30, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Hung Vo hungv...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow the concepts/practices
Hung Vo wrote:
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow the concepts/practices of Encapsulation,
Polymorphism and Interface, which are quite familiar to Java
programmers?
I'd say
Veerendra Ganiger wrote:
Python is not purely object oriented programming, because we can write
functions without any class.
You are right, predefined class attributes are available when we write or
execute a piece of python code without defining class, that means it's just
using objects for
Michael Torrie schrieb:
It all depends on implementation, I think even we can make C object
oriented with proper implementation.
Indeed, any code based on gobject libraries can be object-oriented in
design and function.
The Python C API is a good example for well designed and object
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Hung Vo hungv...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow
Object oriented languages doesn't allow execution of the code without class
objects, what is actually happening when we execute some piece of code, is
it bound to any class?
Those who have time and consideration can help me
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Regards,
Maneesh KB
Comat Technologies
Bangalore
Mob:
M Kumar wrote:
Object oriented languages doesn't allow execution of the code without
class objects, what is actually happening when we execute some piece
of code, is it bound to any class?
Those who have time and consideration can help me
Python *is* object-oriented, but it is not (as your
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:01 AM, M Kumar tomanis...@gmail.com wrote:
Object oriented languages doesn't allow execution of the code without class
objects, what is actually happening when we execute some piece of code, is
it bound to any class?
That's not really the standard definition of
(answering to the OP)
M Kumar wrote:
Object oriented languages doesn't allow execution of the code without
class objects,
Chapter and verse, please ?
Nothing in the (very few) axioms of OOP mentions classes. You don't
need classes to have an OOPL (ever heard about prototype-based languages
Python offers support for object orientation, but it's not an
object-oriented language.
I mean, you can code a entire program in Python with no classes. So you use
it if you want to.
It's not like java, which you must use a class to code a Hello World, but
Java isn't fully object-oriented,
Muriel de Souza Godoi wrote:
Python offers support for object orientation, but it's not an
object-oriented language.
I mean, you can code a entire program in Python with no classes. So you
use it if you want to.
It's not like java, which you must use a class to code a Hello World,
but Java
Hi!
Il se trouve que Chris Rebert a formulé :
Python has functions, which are not associated
with a class
functions are methods of builtin...
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Michel Claveau
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M Kumar wrote:
Object oriented languages doesn't allow execution of the code without
class objects, what is actually happening when we execute some piece of
code, is it bound to any class?
Those who have time and consideration can help me
a) This is a purely theoretical consideration. You
but still I am not clear of the execution of the code, when we write or
execute a piece of python code without defining class, predefined class
attributes are available (not all but __name__ and __doc__ are available).
does it mean anything to this topic. Is it necessory to have __module__,
On Jan 29, 7:21 am, Gary Herron gher...@islandtraining.com wrote:
Python *is* object-oriented, but it is not (as your definition suggests)
object-fascist.
I'm a python-nazi.
No python for you!
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On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:58 AM, M Kumar tomanis...@gmail.com wrote:
but still I am not clear of the execution of the code, when we write or
execute a piece of python code without defining class, predefined class
attributes are available (not all but __name__ and __doc__ are available).
does
MC a écrit :
Hi!
Il se trouve que Chris Rebert a formulé :
Python has functions, which are not associated
with a class
functions are methods of builtin...
Please check your facts. Python functions are not methods of anything
(and not even necessarily attributes of a module - think about
M Kumar wrote:
but still I am not clear of the execution of the code, when we write or
execute a piece of python code without defining class, predefined class
attributes are available (not all but __name__ and __doc__ are available).
does it mean anything to this topic. Is it necessory to have
M Kumar wrote:
Object oriented languages doesn't allow execution of the code without
class objects, what is actually happening when we execute some piece of
code, is it bound to any class?
Those who have time and consideration can help me
My take..
Python is a language. Programs written
On 29 Jan., 11:21, Gary Herron gher...@islandtraining.com wrote:
Python *is* object-oriented, but it is not (as your definition suggests)
object-fascist.
I'd put it more mildly. Python is object oriented. The orientation is
there but the fanatism is gone.
Kay
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MC xx.x...@xx.xmclaveaux.com writes:
Hi!
Il se trouve que Chris Rebert a formulé :
Python has functions, which are not associated with a class
functions are methods of builtin...
No, because ‘builtin’ is not a class.
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\ “The shortest distance between two points is
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:25:57 -0800, Chris Rebert wrote:
In addition to methods, Python has functions, which are not associated
with a class
Yes they are.
(lambda: None).__class__
type 'function'
The function type itself has a class:
(lambda: None).__class__.__class__
type 'type'
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On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano
ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:25:57 -0800, Chris Rebert wrote:
In addition to methods, Python has functions, which are not associated
with a class
Yes they are.
(lambda: None).__class__
type 'function'
are really exposed when you start extending
built-in types, or doing meta programming where you dynamically alter
classes (and instance objects) on the fly.
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow
are really exposed when you start extending
built-in types, or doing meta programming where you dynamically alter
classes (and instance objects) on the fly.
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow
are really exposed when you start extending
built-in types, or doing meta programming where you dynamically alter
classes (and instance objects) on the fly.
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow
On Jan 30, 4:00 pm, Hung Vo hungv...@gmail.com wrote:
Does Python follow the concepts/practices of Encapsulation,
Polymorphism and Interface, which are quite familiar to Java
programmers?
Well, it has the same _concepts_, but definitely not the same
practices/implementations. As they say,
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow the concepts/practices of Encapsulation,
Polymorphism and Interface, which are quite familiar to Java
programmers?
Python does not enforce
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Hung Vo hungv...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
I'm new to Python and also wondering about OOP in Python.
I want to justify the above question (is Python Object-Oriented?).
Does Python follow the concepts/practices of Encapsulation,
Polymorphism and Interface, which
On Jan 30, 4:15 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
- Python does not support interfaces in the Java sense (although there
are a few third-party libraries that add such support); neither does
Smalltalk. Instead, both Smalltalk and Python use duck-typing to
similar effect.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:25 PM, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 30, 4:15 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
- Python does not support interfaces in the Java sense (although there
are a few third-party libraries that add such support); neither does
Smalltalk. Instead, both
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