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On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:13 AM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Andreas Roehler wrote:
with python-mode.el from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-mode/
I think there's something wrong with the site because it tells me
it's v
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Andreas Roehler wrote:
with python-mode.el from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-mode/
I think there's something wrong with the site because it tells me it's version
1.0 from year 2005.
Meanwhile I'll reflect a draft addressing your needs.
there is a rather
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Andreas Roehler wrote:
>> with python-mode.el from
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-mode/
>
> I think there's something wrong with the site because it tells me it's version
> 1.0 from year 2005.
You are right, sorry. I should tell you the present place.
Bar
Andreas Roehler wrote:
>
> with python-mode.el from
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-mode/
I think there's something wrong with the site because it tells me it's version
1.0 from year 2005.
> Meanwhile I'll reflect a draft addressing your needs.
there is a rather sizable set of thin
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Andreas Roehler wrote:
>
>> IMO Jeremiah Dodds is right. With all the time spent on this discussion, you
>> could write the needed function in elisp probably. BTW your request seems
>> reasonable. Other python programmers may use it too.
>
> I tried learning lisp about
Andreas Roehler wrote:
> IMO Jeremiah Dodds is right. With all the time spent on this discussion, you
> could write the needed function in elisp probably. BTW your request seems
> reasonable. Other python programmers may use it too.
I tried learning lisp about 15 years ago. even bought a copy of
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Jeremiah Dodds wrote:
>
>> Eric, I don't have a good readily available solution to what you're
>> trying to do, but it seems to me that it would be worth your time to get
>> comfortable with elisp, and how it's used in emacs. The emacs
>> documentation is pretty good, ev
John Yeung wrote:
> On Nov 15, 8:50 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> well, therein lies the rub. I don't know lisp,
>> I don't know Emacs internals let alone python mode.
>
> Unfortunately, neither do I. Actually, I haven't touched Emacs since
> my college days, and barely r
Jeremiah Dodds wrote:
> Eric, I don't have a good readily available solution to what you're
> trying to do, but it seems to me that it would be worth your time to get
> comfortable with elisp, and how it's used in emacs. The emacs
> documentation is pretty good, even if you don't know lisp, and I
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:36 AM, John Yeung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Nov 15, 8:50 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > well, therein lies the rub. I don't know lisp,
> > I don't know Emacs internals let alone python mode.
>
> Is vr-mode a "major" mode? If so, I suppose it
On Nov 15, 8:50 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, therein lies the rub. I don't know lisp,
> I don't know Emacs internals let alone python mode.
Unfortunately, neither do I. Actually, I haven't touched Emacs since
my college days, and barely remember any of it. I figure
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric S. Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>here's an example of the problem:
>class foo( object):
>def cat(self)
> self.x=1
> def dog
>self.x=2
>
>this is legal Python but it's not what you need 99% of the time. There is no
>cue to t
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
> Aaron Brady wrote:
[...]
> one step up from speaking the keyboard is forcing the user to say the same
> command multiple times to achieve a single effect. For example, if you want
> to
> move to the beginning of the line for the end of the line, you can say "move
> word
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I still don't understand.
I elaborated on some of these points in a post to Aaron Brady. If you missed it
on the list, let me know and I will forward you a copy.
It seems that you want to be able to do:
> "END_CLASS" to end the current class.
>
> "END_DEF" to end t
John Yeung wrote:
> This is such a fascinating and compelling thread that it has pulled me
> out of lurker mode.
>
> Eric, I would like to say I also admire your initiative, but even more
> so your patience. You seem to handle comments of all types
> gracefully.
Should have seen me 20 years ago.
Aaron Brady wrote:
> You see examples here from time to time that don't follow the rigid C+
> + formatting. Some examples:
>
> def classmaker( ):
> class X:
> something
> return X
>
> class X:
> class Y:
> something
>
> if something:
> class X:
> pass
> else:
> def X( ):
>
On Nov 14, 9:01 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the "if", why do
> > you hit backspace? What is it that you would like to have happen?
>
> the goal is to make some aspects of indentation behave the
This is such a fascinating and compelling thread that it has pulled me
out of lurker mode.
Eric, I would like to say I also admire your initiative, but even more
so your patience. You seem to handle comments of all types
gracefully.
Perhaps it comes from working with speech recognition so much.
On Nov 14, 11:28 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aaron Brady wrote:
> > On Nov 14, 8:01 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the "if", why do
> >>> you hit backspace? What is i
Aaron Brady wrote:
> On Nov 14, 8:01 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the "if", why do
>>> you hit backspace? What is it that you would like to have happen?
>> the goal is to make some aspects of i
On Nov 14, 8:01 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the "if", why do
> > you hit backspace? What is it that you would like to have happen?
>
> the goal is to make some aspects of indentation behave the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the "if", why do
> you hit backspace? What is it that you would like to have happen?
the goal is to make some aspects of indentation behave the same without context
dependency. this goal exists for many features of pr
On Nov 14, 5:27 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Nov 14, 4:08 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Almar Klein wrote:
> >>> Hi Eric,
> >>> First of all, I like your initiative.
> >> there's nothing like self interest to drive on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Nov 14, 4:08 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Almar Klein wrote:
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> First of all, I like your initiative.
>> there's nothing like self interest to drive one's initiative. :-) 14 years
>> with
>> speech recognition and counting. I'm
On Nov 14, 4:08 pm, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Almar Klein wrote:
> > Hi Eric,
>
> > First of all, I like your initiative.
>
> there's nothing like self interest to drive one's initiative. :-) 14 years
> with
> speech recognition and counting. I'm so looking to my 15th anni
Almar Klein wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> First of all, I like your initiative.
there's nothing like self interest to drive one's initiative. :-) 14 years with
speech recognition and counting. I'm so looking to my 15th anniversary of being
injured next year
another initiative is exporting the spee
On Nov 14, 11:41 am, "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in trying to make programming in Python more accessible to disabled
> programmers
> (specifically mobility impaired speech recognition users), and hitting a bit
> of
> a wall. The wall (for today) is indentation. I need a met
Hi Eric,
First of all, I like your initiative.
I'm not sure if I undestand you correctly, but can't you just
increase indentation after each line that ends with a colon?
That's how I do it in my editor. The user would then only need
to specify when to decrease indentation.
Cheers,
Almar
2008/
in trying to make programming in Python more accessible to disabled programmers
(specifically mobility impaired speech recognition users), and hitting a bit of
a wall. The wall (for today) is indentation. I need a method of getting the
"right indentation" without having to speak a bunch of unnece
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