Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-15 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Alan Plum wrote: > Django can be scaled down a lot, but it's a full-featured framework at > its heart. You can pick and chose which parts of django you want to use. You don't need to use any of the Django model stuff. You don't need to use any of the template system. You can

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-15 Thread Alan Plum
On 2011-09-11 02:50, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: I replied to that one off list I guess, but I figured Django was way more overhead than I wanted, doesn't really fit with solving the speed issue. Depending on your needs, you may find something like bottle or Flask a better choice then. Django

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-13 Thread alex23
On Sep 10, 1:54 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote: > I'm not feeling particularly masochistic, so I do not want to develop > this project in PHP; essentially I'm looking to build a web-based MMO. Google have been promoting the use of appengine along with HTML5 & JS to produce games. One advantage of

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-11 Thread hidura
st-bounces+hidura=gmail@python.org Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:48:01 To: Subject: Re: using python in web applications "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote: > >I don't much care for PHP, but the thing that can be said for it is it's >pretty quick. How does Python compare? PHP is

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-11 Thread Laurent
+1 for PostgreSQL. It's faster than MySQL for years now, and is much more seriously featured. If you don't need ACID properties (transactions stuff) you should also give Document-based databases like MongoDB a try. It changed my code life. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-11 Thread Tim Roberts
"Littlefield, Tyler" wrote: > >I don't much care for PHP, but the thing that can be said for it is it's >pretty quick. How does Python compare? PHP is quick for development, in that you can slap together some schlock and have it mostly work. The result, however, is usually schlock. The perform

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Laurent wrote: > [troll] > For a serious web based MMO you'd rather stick to low level and forget about > bloated Object Relational Mapping java-like layered kind of frameworks that > are made for Rapid Applications Development, not for efficiency. > [/troll] I

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-10 Thread Laurent
Well PyPy is just an implementation of Python among many others (but limited to version 2.7). It is not a web server. If you want to make PyPy interact with a web server (such as nginx) you have to use a special protocol such as WSGI or Fast-CGI. For best performances you can for instance use uW

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-10 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
On 9/10/2011 5:35 PM, Laurent wrote: [troll] For a serious web based MMO you'd rather stick to low level and forget about bloated Object Relational Mapping java-like layered kind of frameworks that are made for Rapid Applications Development, not for efficiency. [/troll] I replied to that one

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-10 Thread Laurent
[troll] For a serious web based MMO you'd rather stick to low level and forget about bloated Object Relational Mapping java-like layered kind of frameworks that are made for Rapid Applications Development, not for efficiency. [/troll] "Eve Online", a well known MMORPG was developped with stackle

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-10 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
On 9/9/2011 10:19 PM, Ben Finney wrote: "Littlefield, Tyler" writes: I'm curious if there are some good solutions for using Python in web applications. Start with: http://docs.python.org/howto/webservers.html#frameworks> http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks> Awe

Re: using python in web applications

2011-09-09 Thread Ben Finney
"Littlefield, Tyler" writes: > I'm curious if there are some good solutions for using Python in web > applications. Start with: http://docs.python.org/howto/webservers.html#frameworks> http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks> and try your criteria

using python in web applications

2011-09-09 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
Hello all: I'm curious if there are some good solutions for using Python in web applications. I'm not feeling particularly masochistic, so I do not want to develop this project in PHP; essentially I'm looking to build a web-based MMO. I know that you can use nginx with Pyth