Re: we want python software

2017-12-08 Thread Percival John Hackworth
On 05-Dec-2017, km wrote (in article): > I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. > they are so dumb. All they know is a to open a program we need to double > click it and it runs.- windoze legacy. most of the time they pay huge > amount to a greedy college and get

Re: we want python software

2017-12-08 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 03:45 pm, Abhiram R wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:08 AM, km wrote: > >> I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. >> they are so dumb. All they know is a to open a program we need to double >> click it and it runs. >> >> We were all once "dum

Re: we want python software

2017-12-08 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/05/2017 09:27 PM, km wrote: [snip] Many things in this world are frustrating, but being hateful will not solve anything. Please control yourself. -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: we want python software

2017-12-08 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:10:24 AM UTC+5:30, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, Tony, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy wrote: > >>> Sir, > >>> I am b.

Re: we want python software

2017-12-08 Thread Abhiram R
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:08 AM, km wrote: > I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. > they are so dumb. All they know is a to open a program we need to double > click it and it runs. > > â ïWe were all once "dumb". We learnt it because someone Taught us. I'd rath

Re: we want python software

2017-12-08 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy > wrote: >> Sir, >> I am b.tech student I would like to learn python. So please send the python software. > Sorry, we don't send anything. You will have to go get it yourself. -) > Well, at l

Re: we want python software

2017-12-08 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, Tony, On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy >> wrote: >>> Sir, >>> I am b.tech student I would like to learn python. So please send the python software. >> Sorr

Re: we want python software

2017-12-07 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> > A junior programmer sees the unlimited possibilities of programming. No > > montain is too high to climb. > > > > A seasoned programmer is elated if they can get anything to work at all. Good judgement comes from experience. And a lot of that comes from bad judgement. Karsten -- https://mail

Re: we want python software

2017-12-07 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Gregory Ewing : > >> Rick Johnson wrote: >>> DOLT: "Programming is easy! Once you learn the langauge, >>> it's just a matter of fill-in-the-blanks." >> >> To be fair to this person, for someone who has a natural aptitude for >> progra

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Gregory Ewing : > Rick Johnson wrote: >> DOLT: "Programming is easy! Once you learn the langauge, >> it's just a matter of fill-in-the-blanks." > > To be fair to this person, for someone who has a natural aptitude for > programming, it can be difficult to appreciate how hard it is for > pe

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Ben Finney
Ethan Furman writes: > On 12/06/2017 08:33 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > > > I'm going to defend KM (srikrishnamohan) -- his comments were not "an > > attack", > > On 12/05/2017 08:38 PM, km wrote: > > I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. > > they are so dumb. >

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/06/2017 08:33 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: I'm going to defend KM (srikrishnamohan) -- his comments were not "an attack", On 12/05/2017 08:38 PM, km wrote: > I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. > they are so dumb. On 12/05/2017 09:27 PM, km wrote: > You

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 December 2017 15:33:40 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 December 2017 12:14:32 Ian Kelly wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Gene Heskett > > > > wrote: > >> > On Wednesday 06 December 2017 11:28:22 Random832 wro

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Rick Johnson
Gregory Ewing wrote: [...] > To be fair to this person, for someone who has a natural > aptitude for programming, it can be difficult to appreciate > how hard it is for people who don't. When I first started > programming, in my early teens, the basic ideas all seemed > very straightforward,

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Andrew Z
Can we mark the entire thread "spam", please? On Dec 6, 2017 17:55, "Gregory Ewing" wrote: > Rick Johnson wrote: > > DOLT: "Programming is easy! Once you learn the langauge, >> it's just a matter of fill-in-the-blanks." >> > > To be fair to this person, for someone who has a natural > a

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Gregory Ewing
Rick Johnson wrote: DOLT: "Programming is easy! Once you learn the langauge, it's just a matter of fill-in-the-blanks." To be fair to this person, for someone who has a natural aptitude for programming, it can be difficult to appreciate how hard it is for people who don't. When I firs

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 12/5/2017 4:39 PM, Igor Korot wrote: >> >> Hi, Tony, >> >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff >> wrote: >>> >>> On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: Hi, On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/5/2017 4:39 PM, Igor Korot wrote: Hi, Tony, On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: Hi, On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy wrote: Sir, I am b.tech student I would like to learn python. So please send the

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Andrew Z
Looks like the longest thread for past 2 months. Should we push it to be the longest for 2017? :) On Dec 6, 2017 15:34, "Ian Kelly" wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Gene Heskett > wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 December 2017 12:14:32 Ian Kelly wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:42

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 06 December 2017 12:14:32 Ian Kelly wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Gene Heskett > wrote: >> > On Wednesday 06 December 2017 11:28:22 Random832 wrote: >> >> The third possibility is that he believes that this list is

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Rick Johnson
Steve D'Aprano wrote: [...] > And yes, I'm aware of the irony of me taking this position > only a couple of posts after I asked the group to run some > code for me without explaining why I couldn't run it > myself.[1] [...] But if somebody wants to take me to task > for Your virtue signaling he

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 3:33 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 04:54 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:27 PM, km wrote: >>> Remember that you are wasting time of lakhs of python subscribers by >>> asking such dumb questions being tech students. You people can G

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2017-12-05, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, Tony, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff > wrote: >> On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy >>> wrote: Sir, I am b.tech student I would like to learn py

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 December 2017 12:14:32 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 December 2017 11:28:22 Random832 wrote: > >> The third possibility is that he believes that this list is > >> official in some corporate sense, that if he asks for th

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 06 December 2017 11:28:22 Random832 wrote: >> The third possibility is that he believes that this list is official >> in some corporate sense, that if he asks for the software and it is >> not free he will receive a price quote. >

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 December 2017 11:28:22 Random832 wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, at 11:18, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > > You suggested that if he wasn't familiar with free software, his > > request that people send him a copy of Python wouldn't look so odd. > > Okay, if Python weren't free software, it

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 December 2017 11:33:14 Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 04:54 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:27 PM, km wrote: > >> Remember that you are wasting time of lakhs of python subscribers > >> by asking such dumb questions being tech students. You peop

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 04:54 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:27 PM, km wrote: >> Remember that you are wasting time of lakhs of python subscribers by >> asking such dumb questions being tech students. You people can Google and >> watch movies / songs online and you can't find

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Random832
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017, at 11:18, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > You suggested that if he wasn't familiar with free software, his > request that people send him a copy of Python wouldn't look so odd. > Okay, if Python weren't free software, it would be non-free software, > and you are saying that it wouldn't

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 11:25 pm, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 4:05:43 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 02:49 pm, Rustom Mody wrote: >> >> > You are assuming that the strangeness of the request is about 'tech' >> > [engineering/tech existed centuries b

Re: Lies (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: > I was at first surprised and even a bit shocked when people called me > right-wing. > Over time Ive come to accept that lies (left-wing) is upstream of hate > (right-wing). And to the extent that effects must be stemmed from causes, > the wo

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Rick Johnson
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 12:11:47 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: [...] > To the OP: [...] The best thing to do here is to type > "python" into your favourite search engine (Google, > DuckDuckGo, Bing, AltaVista, etc), and then read the web > page for a download link. I don't think

Re: Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Igor Korot
Rustom, On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 4:05:43 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote: >> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 02:49 pm, Rustom Mody wrote: >> >> > You are assuming that the strangeness of the request is about 'tech' >> > [engineering/tech existed

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Rick Johnson
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 2:14:40 AM UTC-6, Percival John Hackworth wrote: [...] > [...] > The good people (e.g. the friends I asked for advice) are > to busy to do such little projects to bother. Good work is not cheap. And cheap work is not good. > So the market is left with Junior p

Lies (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:05:33 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > (By the way Rustom, if you're reading, thank you for that link to the video a > few weeks ago about teaching 2 + 2 = 22. My blood pressure just about doubled > watching it.) [Ref: https://youtu.be/Zh3Yz3PiXZw ] Yes… Li

Politeness (was: we want python software)

2017-12-06 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 4:05:43 PM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 02:49 pm, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > You are assuming that the strangeness of the request is about 'tech' > > [engineering/tech existed centuries before computers] > > > > Do remember one can be a tech

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 02:49 pm, Rustom Mody wrote: > You are assuming that the strangeness of the request is about 'tech' > [engineering/tech existed centuries before computers] > > Do remember one can be a tech-{student,professional} without > - ever having encountered free-software > - internet/US

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 03:45 pm, Abhiram R wrote: > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:08 AM, km wrote: > >> I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. >> they are so dumb. All they know is a to open a program we need to double >> click it and it runs. >> >> We were all once "du

Re: we want python software

2017-12-06 Thread Percival John Hackworth
On 05-Dec-2017, km wrote (in article): > I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. > they are so dumb. All they know is a to open a program we need to double > click it and it runs.- windoze legacy. most of the time they pay huge > amount to a greedy college and get

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Ethan Furman
On 12/05/2017 09:27 PM, km wrote: [snip] Many things in this world are frustrating, but being hateful will not solve anything. Please control yourself. -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:27 PM, km wrote: > Remember that you are wasting time of lakhs of python subscribers by > asking such dumb questions being tech students. You people can Google and > watch movies / songs online and you can't find how to download and install > python ? That's ridiculous!

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread km
Remember that you are wasting time of lakhs of python subscribers by asking such dumb questions being tech students. You people can Google and watch movies / songs online and you can't find how to download and install python ? That's ridiculous! On Dec 6, 2017 10:15 AM, "Abhiram R" wrote: > >

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Abhiram R
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 10:08 AM, km wrote: > I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. > they are so dumb. All they know is a to open a program we need to double > click it and it runs. > > ​We were all once "dumb". We learnt it because someone Taught us. I'd rather

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread km
I dont know how these students are selected into b tech stream in India. they are so dumb. All they know is a to open a program we need to double click it and it runs.- windoze legacy. most of the time they pay huge amount to a greedy college and get into tech stream. Now that Java boom (jobs) is o

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:10:24 AM UTC+5:30, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, Tony, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy wrote: > >>> Sir, > >>> I am b

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, Tony, On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy >> wrote: >>> Sir, >>> I am b.tech student I would like to learn python. So please send >>> the python software. >>

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 05/12/17 16:55, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy > wrote: >> Sir, >> I am b.tech student I would like to learn python. So please send the >> python software. > Sorry, we don't send anything. You will have to go get it yourself. -) > Well,

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Joel Goldstick
Go visit python.org to see how to download python for the operating system you are using. Its free of course On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Igor Korot wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy > wrote: > > Sir, > > I am b.tech student I would like to learn

Re: we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Jyothiswaroop Reddy wrote: > Sir, > I am b.tech student I would like to learn python. So please send the > python software. Sorry, we don't send anything. You will have to go get it yourself. -) Thanking you back. > T

we want python software

2017-12-05 Thread Jyothiswaroop Reddy
Sir, I am b.tech student I would like to learn python. So please send the python software. Thanking you sir. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list