Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-11-08 Thread Kryvor
As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these are: Mentor Graphics ModelTech VHDL and Verilog simulator Synopsys Design Compiler

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-11-06 Thread VernM
On Oct 30, 1:25 pm, chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these are: Mentor Graphics

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-11-01 Thread Tim Roberts
chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to use Python and C and wxWidgets for my EDA CAD program. I want to put most of the program core in an Python extension and GUI in wxWidgets. I do need to get publishing quality vector graphics outputs from this program so one of my concerns is if

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Tim Roberts
chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these are: Mentor Graphics ModelTech VHDL and Verilog simulator

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Eddie Corns
chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these are: Mentor Graphics ModelTech VHDL and Verilog

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Roy Smith
chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would prefer to use Python but can't deny how popular Tcl is, as mentioned above, so my question is why wasn't Python selected by these companies as the choice of scripting languages for their product? Are there any obvious advantages like:

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Kevin Walzer
chewie54 wrote: Hello, As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these are: Mentor Graphics ModelTech VHDL and Verilog simulator

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Paddy
On Oct 30, 10:47 pm, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would prefer to use Python but can't deny how popular Tcl is, as mentioned above, so my question is why wasn't Python selected by these companies as the choice of scripting languages for their product? I think this

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We also had lots of hooks into C code. Doing that is trivial in Tcl. Yes, I know you can extend/embed Python, but it's a LOT easier in Tcl. Embedding a Tcl interpreter in a C program is literally one line of code. Have you tried both or just Tcl? I've

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Robin Becker
Martin v. Löwis wrote: ... I think this question needs to be answered on a case-by-case basis, but my guess is that it is in most cases historical. Work on Tcl started in 1988, and it was the first (major?) embeddable scripting language (that is also free software etc). Python wasn't

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread chewie54
On Oct 31, 3:06 am, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-31 Thread Chris Mellon
On Oct 31, 2007 2:01 PM, chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 31, 3:06 am, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these

why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-30 Thread chewie54
Hello, As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these are: Mentor Graphics ModelTech VHDL and Verilog simulator Synopsys Design

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-30 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Oct 30, 2:25 pm, chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would prefer to use Python but can't deny how popular Tcl is, as mentioned above, so my question is why wasn't Python selected by these companies as the choice of scripting languages for their product? Here are some reasons why

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I would prefer to use Python but can't deny how popular Tcl is, as mentioned above, so my question is why wasn't Python selected by these companies as the choice of scripting languages for their product? I think this question needs to be answered on a case-by-case basis, but my guess is

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-30 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mentor Graphics ModelTech VHDL and Verilog simulator Synopsys Design Compiler and Primetime Static Timing Analyzer Actel FPGA tools. How old are these tools? Tcl has been around as an extension language for a long time, longer than most currently

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-30 Thread MrJean1
That is correct. Tcl has it roots at UC Berkeley and was originally used to provide a command line interface for electronic design automation (EDA) tools. Most commercial EDA vendors at that time were using their own, proprietary command language. Only later became Tcl widely adopted among EDA

Re: why did these companies choose Tcl over Python

2007-10-30 Thread sndive
On Oct 30, 3:25 pm, chewie54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As an electronics engineer I use some very expensive EDA CAD tool programs that are scriptable using Tcl. I was wondering why these companies have choose to use Tcl instead of Python. Some of these are: Mentor Graphics