Re: recycling internationalized garbage

2006-03-15 Thread Ross Ridge
Martin v. Löwis wrote: The point is that you can tell UTF-8 reliably. If the data decodes as UTF-8, it *is* UTF-8, because no other encoding in the world produces the same byte sequences (except for ASCII, which is an UTF-8 subset). It should be obvious that any 8-bit single-byte character

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

2006-03-15 Thread jean-michel bain-cornu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always been happy with the debugger in PythonWin. You can even use: from pywin.debugger import set_trace;set_trace() to bring up the debugger directly from a script that wasn't originally run in the ide. I use that one also. There is also Boa

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

2006-03-15 Thread jean-michel bain-cornu
bruno at modulix wrote: FWIW, I've almost never used a debugger with Python. It's pourtant very simpa from time to time ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

py2exe: abnormal program termination

2006-03-15 Thread PyDenis
Today, I found strange error while using py2exe: 1. I wrote simple program and save as 1.py: import win32ui import win32con win32ui.MessageBox('Test messageBox.' , 'Test', win32con.MB_OK | win32con.MB_TOPMOST ) 2. I create 1_setup.py file for py2exe: from distutils.core import setup import

Re: SSL/TLS - am I doing it right?

2006-03-15 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Michael Ekstrand enlightened us with: clients aren't expected to have their own certificates. I think that the only time you really need the clients to have certificates is when the certificate *is* your authentication (e.g., in OpenVPN). Fact remains that a strong certificate is much more

Re: recycling internationalized garbage

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Martin wrote: The point is that you can tell UTF-8 reliably. RFC 3629 says fairly reliably rather than reliably, but they mean the same thing... If the data decodes as UTF-8, it *is* UTF-8, because no other encoding in the world produces the same byte sequences (except for ASCII, which

MS word document generator

2006-03-15 Thread Raja Raman Sundararajan
Hello guys, Is there any nice library to generate word documents using Python. As of today I am generating a HTML document and then open it with MS Word. But the problem is that I am not able to control the pages in the document and as a result of it the output looks terrible. I have been

Re: SSL/TLS - am I doing it right?

2006-03-15 Thread Frank Millman
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Michael Ekstrand enlightened us with: clients aren't expected to have their own certificates. I think that the only time you really need the clients to have certificates is when the certificate *is* your authentication (e.g., in OpenVPN). Fact remains that a strong

Re: SSL/TLS - am I doing it right?

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Rubin
Frank Millman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You also want to generate a client certificate to install on the server. Both you and Sybren are insistent that this is a necessary step, but I confess I cannot see the need for it. The client is lightweight, and authenticates itself to the server

details

2006-03-15 Thread PyDenis
Python: ActivePython 2.4.2 Build 10 (ActiveState Corp.) based on Python 2.4.2 (#67, Jan 17 2006, 15:36:03) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 - win32ui: Dont know how to get version info. Little snippet [code:1:f18a50c332]import win32ui aa = sorted(dir(win32ui)) for i

installing numpy

2006-03-15 Thread cesco
Hi, I'm trying to install the numpy library (precisely numpy-0.9.6-py2.4-linux-i686) on Linux but I encounter several problems. After unpacking the file it creates the following folders: usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/numpy/ The file setup.py and the whole library is located under the folder

Re: Python Debugger / IDE ??

2006-03-15 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Is there any editor or IDE in Python (either Windows or Linux) which has very good debugging facilites like MS VisualStudio has or something like that. I like SPE but couldn't easily use winPDP. I need tips to debug my code easily. You can try out PyScripter, a

Re: MS word document generator

2006-03-15 Thread Max M
Raja Raman Sundararajan wrote: I was wondering if there was any library as reportlab to generate word documents. If you are on Windows, why dont you use word for it? You can call it from Python. -- hilsen/regards Max M, Denmark http://www.mxm.dk/ IT's Mad Science Phone: +45 66 11 84 94

global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread robert
Using global variables in Python often raises chaos. Other languages use a clear prefix for globals. * you forget to declare a global * or you declare a global too much or in conflict * you have a local identical variable name and want to save/load it to/from the global with same name * while

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread Xaver Hinterhuber
Hi Robert, I was using global variables some time ago, too. But with the time the program simply got unmaintainable, because it is very hard to trace, why a global variable has some special value and not the one, you thought it should have. So I redesigned the program and now I can do it

WORKAROUND

2006-03-15 Thread PyDenis
I fixed problem using Atypes: import ctypes ctypes.windll.user32.MessageBoxA(0, 'test', 'Title', win32con.MB_ICONINFORMATION | win32con.MB_OK | win32con.MB_TOPMOST) It compiles and runs fine with py2exe. Dont remember buggy pywin32 :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: MS word document generator

2006-03-15 Thread Tim Churches
Raja Raman Sundararajan wrote: Hello guys, Is there any nice library to generate word documents using Python. As of today I am generating a HTML document and then open it with MS Word. But the problem is that I am not able to control the pages in the document and as a result of it the

Re: Playing with modules

2006-03-15 Thread John Cassidy
Kent Johnson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I was wondering whether I could fool or backend the normal import mechanism. Even in Java, I can write my own class loader which can quick compile Java snippets and load the anonymous byte code. See

Re: Memory visualization

2006-03-15 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to know if for Python there is a similar program to dynamically see the memory in a similar way. If such tool doesn't exist yet, I'd like to know if it may be diffifult to create it. One already

Re: recycling internationalized garbage

2006-03-15 Thread Ross Ridge
Ross Ridge wrote: It should be obvious that any 8-bit single-byte character set can produce byte sequences that are valid in UTF-8. Fredrik Lundh wrote: it should be fairly obvious that you don't know much about UTF-8... Despite this malicious and false accusation, your post only confirms

Re: elementtree and gbk encoding

2006-03-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Hi, good advice, but note that an envelope (e.g a HTTP request or response body) may override the encoding in the XML file itself. if this arrives in a MIME message with the proper charset information, it's perfectly okay to leave out the encoding from the file. It might be practical -

Re: elementtree and gbk encoding

2006-03-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
pyexpat has only limited support for non-standard encodings; the core expat library only supports UTF-8, UTF-16, US-ASCII, and ISO-8859-1, and the Python glue layer then adds support for all byte-to-byte en- codings support by Python on top of that. Interesting. Maybe 4suite is more

Re: elementtree and gbk encoding

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: good advice, but note that an envelope (e.g a HTTP request or response body) may override the encoding in the XML file itself. if this arrives in a MIME message with the proper charset information, it's perfectly okay to leave out the encoding from the file. It

Re: recycling internationalized garbage

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Ross Ridge wrote: Despite this malicious and false accusation, your post only confirms what I wrote above is true and what Martin wrote was false. Even with the desperate and absurd semantic game you tried to play, like falsely equating fairly reliably with reliably, in a database as large

Re: WORKAROUND

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Could you perhaps use basic netiquette stuff, such as sticking to the same sub- ject line for followup posts in the same thread, and including a least some trace of the post you're commenting on ? (this would be less of a problem if everyone was reading your posts in a news- reader, but this

Re: recycling internationalized garbage

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Unless someone has any other ideas I'm giving up now. btw, have you looked at using http://musicbrainz.org/products/server/download.html instead? they appear to guarantee UTF-8 (to the extent that *they* have managed to autodecode the FreeDB junk, of course). not sure how complete it

Re: SSL/TLS - am I doing it right?

2006-03-15 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Paul Rubin enlightened us with: The client cert approach isn't strictly necessary but it means that the SSL stack takes care of stuff that your application would otherwise have to take care of at both the client and the server side. Indeed. I always try to take the route of the least wheels I

Button and Key Event

2006-03-15 Thread lux
Hi, how to enable EVT_CHAR or EVT_KEY_DOWN in a wxButton? Thank's, Luca -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tree and Graph structures in Python.

2006-03-15 Thread Tamas Nepusz
Istvan Albert wrote: See this: https://networkx.lanl.gov/ Or if you want to be able to handle large graphs efficiently, igraph might be a good choice: http://igraph.sourceforge.net/ It's written in pure C, but has a Python interface and according to my measurements, it's much faster than any

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread robert
Xaver Hinterhuber wrote: Hi Robert, I was using global variables some time ago, too. But with the time the program simply got unmaintainable, because it is very hard to trace, why a global variable has some special value and not the one, you thought it should have. So I redesigned the

__slots__ in derived class

2006-03-15 Thread Schüle Daniel
Hello, consider this code class A(object): ... def __init__(self): ... self.a = 1 ... self.b = 2 ... class B(A): ... __slots__ = [x,y] ... b=B() b.a 1 b.b 2 b.x = 100 b.y = 100 b.z = 100 no exception here does __slots__ nothing when used in

Re: installing numpy

2006-03-15 Thread Travis E. Oliphant
cesco wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install the numpy library (precisely numpy-0.9.6-py2.4-linux-i686) on Linux but I encounter several This is a dumb pre-built binary package (useful perhaps because it links against ATLAS already) built using distutils. You don't build it and install it using

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
robert wrote: Most variable read-s in Python anyway go to module globals - as there are no other kinds of namespaces except __builtins__ your post made some sense until I got to this paragraph, which appears to completely ignore local variables, arguments, and variables in intermediate scopes

Re: elementtree and gbk encoding

2006-03-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
no, the parser must not to choke on a file for which the encoding has been overridden. for example, the HTTP standard allows the transport layer to recode text/* re- sources as long as it updates the charset properly, so if you e.g send an XML document as text/xml and charset=iso-8859-1,

Re: Very, Very Green Python User

2006-03-15 Thread hanumizzle
Scott David Daniels wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Is the Python debugger fairly stable? Yes, but it is not massively featured. The Pythonic way is to rarely use a debugger (test first and straightforward code should lead to shallow bugs). Often for most of us judiciously placed

Re: Tree and Graph structures in Python.

2006-03-15 Thread Ant
Thanks guys. The networkx and igraph packages look to have the sort of features I want. I'm surprised there's nothing in the standard module library really. -- Ant... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Very, Very Green Python User

2006-03-15 Thread hanumizzle
Exactly...this is how most of my Perl modules are written and tested, actually. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: elementtree and gbk encoding

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Interestingly enough, that has not to be the case. A document can very well be well-formed without a header. The constraints for well-formedness are scattered throughout the spec, so I'm not sure what they say about the used encoding in absence of a header. if there's

libglade for python-2

2006-03-15 Thread Doug
I am having some fun running a program called pygps. This uses libglade and runs fine on my very old Redhat 7.? system running Python 1.5.2. I have not needed to make any changes to the import files (see below). The program uses a glade generated pygps.glade xml file for the gui. I like the

Re: Very, Very Green Python User

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody likes long-winded, abstract philosophical discussions on a technology NG. not even on comp.lang.python ? ;-) /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Installing PySQLite on OS X 10.4

2006-03-15 Thread Rob Cowie
Hi all, I'm having difficulty installing pysqlite 2.1.3 on Mac OS X 10.4.4 There are some notes on the pysqlite wiki regarding modification of the setup.py script and I've followed them to no avail. Build and install appear to go smoothly but attempting to run the tests from the python

Re: Little Help with Exceptions and ConfigParser

2006-03-15 Thread Kent Johnson
mwt wrote: (Whoops, again.) def __init__(self, config_file): self.fahdata = fahdata.FAHData() self.INI = ConfigParser.ConfigParser() if os.path.exists(config_file): try: self.INI.read(config_file) except ConfigParser.Error,

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread Roy Smith
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using global variables in Python often raises chaos. Other languages use a clear prefix for globals. Unsing globals raises chaos in any language. They should be shunned and avoided. --

Re: Installing PySQLite on OS X 10.4

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Rob Cowie wrote: There are some notes on the pysqlite wiki regarding modification of the setup.py script and I've followed them to no avail. Build and install appear to go smoothly but attempting to run the tests from the python interpreter fails. Likewise any attempt to utilise pysqlite2

Feedparser and dates

2006-03-15 Thread friis
I'm using FeedParser.org to import feeds into our MySQL database. Our problem is that we haven't found a solution to translate the date of a post item into GMT. Any ideas? Thanks, Jacob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: __slots__ in derived class

2006-03-15 Thread Kay Schluehr
Schüle Daniel wrote: Hello, consider this code class A(object): ... def __init__(self): ... self.a = 1 ... self.b = 2 ... class B(A): ... __slots__ = [x,y] ... b=B() b.a 1 b.b 2 b.x = 100 b.y = 100 b.z = 100 no exception here

Re: WORKAROUND

2006-03-15 Thread PyDenis
Fredrik Lundhwrote: Could you perhaps use basic netiquette stuff, such as sticking to the same sub- ject line for followup posts in the same thread, and including a least some trace of the post you're commenting on ? (this would be less of a problem if everyone was reading your posts in a

Re: WORKAROUND

2006-03-15 Thread PyDenis
Fredrik Lundhwrote: Could you perhaps use basic netiquette stuff, such as sticking to the same sub- ject line for followup posts in the same thread, and including a least some trace of the post you're commenting on ? (this would be less of a problem if everyone was reading your posts in a

Re: WORKAROUND

2006-03-15 Thread PyDenis
Fredrik Lundhwrote: Could you perhaps use basic netiquette stuff, such as sticking to the same sub- ject line for followup posts in the same thread, and including a least some trace of the post you're commenting on ? (this would be less of a problem if everyone was reading your posts in a

Re: Very, Very Green Python User

2006-03-15 Thread Steve Holden
Fredrik Lundh wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody likes long-winded, abstract philosophical discussions on a technology NG. not even on comp.lang.python ? ;-) I wish :-) regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd

FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread LabWINC
Hi all, i'm looking for a module to implement a digital FIR filter! Can anyone help me? Thanks, Vincent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: WORKAROUND

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
PyDenis wrote: 1. When I post new message to WEBFORUM (not a Mailing List nor News Group) not to include even part of message. comp.lang.python is a newsgroup and the python-list mailing list is a mailing list. your messages appear in both places. /F --

Server applications - avoiding sleep

2006-03-15 Thread rodmc
I have written a small server application (for Windows) which handles sending and receiving information from an instant messaging client and a database. This server needs to run 24/7, however it stops when the computer screen is locked. I assume there is a way to make it run in the background

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread Daniel Dittmar
Roy Smith wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using global variables in Python often raises chaos. Other languages use a clear prefix for globals. Unsing globals raises chaos in any language. They should be shunned and avoided. Solution: replace

Re: Feedparser and dates

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
friis wrote: I'm using FeedParser.org to import feeds into our MySQL database. Our problem is that we haven't found a solution to translate the date of a post item into GMT. from what I can tell, feedparser returns a 9-item UTC time tuple (which is the same thing as GMT, at least for all

Re: Server applications - avoiding sleep

2006-03-15 Thread Sebastjan Trepca
You can create a Windows Service which will run as long as Windows are up, well, except if you stop it. You can find more info here: http://www.python.org/windows/win32/ Sebastjan On 15 Mar 2006 05:26:45 -0800, rodmc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have written a small server application (for

Re: Server applications - avoiding sleep

2006-03-15 Thread bruno at modulix
rodmc wrote: I have written a small server application (for Windows) which handles sending and receiving information from an instant messaging client and a database. This server needs to run 24/7, however it stops when the computer screen is locked. I assume there is a way to make it run in

Re: __slots__ in derived class

2006-03-15 Thread Duncan Booth
Schüle Daniel wrote: consider this code class A(object): ... def __init__(self): ... self.a = 1 ... self.b = 2 ... class B(A): ... __slots__ = [x,y] ... b=B() b.a 1 b.b 2 b.x = 100 b.y = 100 b.z = 100 no exception here does __slots__

Install Universal Encoding Detector

2006-03-15 Thread Jacob
How do I install Universal Encoding Detector (http://chardet.feedparser.org/)? Thanks, Jacob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Threads: does Thread.start() atomically set Thread.__started ?

2006-03-15 Thread Peter Hansen
Enigma Curry wrote: Can some kind person please further my education on Threads? When I create a thread called t and I do a t.start() am I guaranteed that t.isAlive() will return True as long as the thread hasn't already completed? Put another way, does t.start() ever return before

Re: Install Universal Encoding Detector

2006-03-15 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Jacob wrote: How do I install Universal Encoding Detector (http://chardet.feedparser.org/)? it comes with a setup.py file, so I suppose the answer is in the usual way: 1. download 2. unpack 3. cd to the distribution directory 4. run python setup.py install more here:

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread Peter Hansen
LabWINC wrote: i'm looking for a module to implement a digital FIR filter! Can anyone help me? Is this for homework, for academic interest, for a control system problem, or what? Some context would be useful in helping us answer. (The first thing that occurs to me, for example, is why don't

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread LabWINC
It's for research work. I'm implementing an algorithm from a matlab one. It could be very difficult to find the fir coefficients because i have lot of fileters to implement. Vincent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: MS word document generator

2006-03-15 Thread Raja Raman Sundararajan
Hi Tim, Thanks for your PyRTF suggestion. I am checking it out now :-) /R -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Installing PySQLite on OS X 10.4

2006-03-15 Thread Rob Cowie
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Rob Cowie wrote: There are some notes on the pysqlite wiki regarding modification of the setup.py script and I've followed them to no avail. Build and install appear to go smoothly but attempting to run the tests from the python interpreter fails. Likewise any

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread Hans Georg Krauthaeuser
LabWINC wrote: Hi all, i'm looking for a module to implement a digital FIR filter! Can anyone help me? Thanks, Vincent gnuradio? Hans Georg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Install Universal Encoding Detector

2006-03-15 Thread Jacob
Thanks :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: WORKAROUND the Python GUI-lib situation ...

2006-03-15 Thread robert
PyDenis wrote: I fixed problem using Atypes: import ctypes ctypes.windll.user32.MessageBoxA(0, 'test', 'Title', win32con.MB_ICONINFORMATION | win32con.MB_OK | win32con.MB_TOPMOST) It compiles and runs fine with py2exe. Dont remember buggy pywin32 :) better use

Re: sizeof(struct timeval)

2006-03-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick Kew wrote: Tony Houghton wrote: ... But regardless of whether it's 'safe' amongst current devices, you're setting yourself up for a Y2K-family bug. Except it'll be a real one, not a storm-inna-teacup. Hey, hey, don't go spouting off like one of those ignorant journalists! I and a lot

Re: Tried Ruby (or, what Python *really* needs or perldoc!)

2006-03-15 Thread msoulier
While epydoc is nice, I'll point out that one thing that Unix people like myself really like is to be able to check docs on a remote server that we're logged into via a terminal session. The help() function in the interpreter is great for this, although it seems that python eggs broke it. :(

Re: Tried Ruby (or, what Python *really* needs or perldoc!)

2006-03-15 Thread msoulier
I'd love to have a unified documentation system where *all* the documentation for *all* installed modules was available to pydoc *and* the web browser and *all* this documentation was in .py files. Seconded! Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Install Universal Encoding Detector

2006-03-15 Thread Kent Johnson
Jacob wrote: How do I install Universal Encoding Detector (http://chardet.feedparser.org/)? The usual process: download unpack with your favorite tool - tar or WinZip, maybe cd chardet-1.0 python setup.py install Kent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Tried Ruby (or, what Python *really* needs or perldoc!)

2006-03-15 Thread msoulier
I have found the Python sidebar VERY helpful: Personally, I can't use local docs on my desktop as they may not be the same version of the docs for the Python distro running on the server that I'm deploying on. I usually go to python.org and use the wayback machine to look at the old docs for the

Re: WORKAROUND the Python GUI-lib situation ...

2006-03-15 Thread Chris Mellon
On 3/15/06, robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PyDenis wrote: I fixed problem using Atypes: import ctypes ctypes.windll.user32.MessageBoxA(0, 'test', 'Title', win32con.MB_ICONINFORMATION | win32con.MB_OK | win32con.MB_TOPMOST) It compiles and runs fine with py2exe. Dont

Re: Tried Ruby (or, what Python *really* needs or perldoc!)

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Boddie
msoulier wrote: But, if Python would match Perl for docs available on the command-line, then I'd have it all at my fingertips. I simply don't understand why this is not being done. When I'm coding in C, I use the manpages on the remote host so that I know the docs are correct for my target.

Re: Server applications - avoiding sleep

2006-03-15 Thread rodmc
Hi, Thanks to both of you for your help. cheers, rod -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread robert
Fredrik Lundh wrote: robert wrote: Most variable read-s in Python anyway go to module globals - as there are no other kinds of namespaces except __builtins__ your post made some sense until I got to this paragraph, which appears to completely ignore local variables, arguments, and

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread LabWINC
What's gnuradio? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: MS word document generator

2006-03-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-03-15, Raja Raman Sundararajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any nice library to generate word documents using Python. I find the following works well for me: f = open(file.doc) f.write(Hello there.\n) f.write(How are you?\n) f.close() As of today I am generating a HTML document

Don't use __slots__ (was Re: __slots__ in derived class)

2006-03-15 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sch=FCle_Daniel?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does __slots__ nothing when used in derived classes? Short answer: don't use __slots__ until you're comfortable writing metaclasses and decorators. __slots__ are a performance hack strictly for advanced

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread Hans Georg Krauthaeuser
LabWINC wrote: What's gnuradio? http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/ It's a c++ lib with a python wrapper. BTW, thats the first hit in google ... Hans Georg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Installing PySQLite on OS X 10.4

2006-03-15 Thread Gerhard Häring
Rob Cowie wrote: [...] However, if I do from pysqlite2 import test as suggested after installation, I get the following traceback... Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in ? File pysqlite2/test/__init__.py, line 25, in ? from pysqlite2.test import dbapi, types,

Re: WORKAROUND the Python GUI-lib situation ...

2006-03-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
wx is also in a far better position for most non-trivial UIs, becuase it has infrastructure that win32 (pretty much alone among modern UI toolkits) lacks, like layout algorithms and i18ln support. Qt has all of this. On all platforms. Just for the record. And layout algorithms - that was

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
LabWINC wrote: What's gnuradio? Google dead again? Boy, must be one of these days... Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread LabWINC
I can't understand how gnuradio can help me... I find scipy is the only way to implement a good FIR. Thanks, Vincent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread John Hunter
LabWINC == LabWINC [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LabWINC Hi all, i'm looking for a module to implement a digital LabWINC FIR filter! Can anyone help me? scipy.org Between scipy and matplotlib, you'll feel quite comfortable with python as a former matlab user help scipy.filter (see FIR

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread Hans Georg Krauthaeuser
LabWINC wrote: I can't understand how gnuradio can help me... I find scipy is the only way to implement a good FIR. Well, then do it with scipy... gnuradio has a module for FIR. I never used it. I just wanted to share that information. Hans Georg --

Re: WORKAROUND the Python GUI-lib situation ...

2006-03-15 Thread Chris Mellon
On 3/15/06, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wx is also in a far better position for most non-trivial UIs, becuase it has infrastructure that win32 (pretty much alone among modern UI toolkits) lacks, like layout algorithms and i18ln support. Qt has all of this. On all platforms.

newbie questions

2006-03-15 Thread meeper34
Hi, I'm just starting out with Python, and so far I am thoroughly impressed with what you can do very easily with the language. I'm coming from a C++ background here. A couple of questions came up as I was thinking about dynamically typed languages: 1. If someone releases an interface in

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread LabWINC
Thank you too Georg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread Peter Hansen
LabWINC wrote: It's for research work. I'm implementing an algorithm from a matlab one. It could be very difficult to find the fir coefficients because i have lot of fileters to implement. Oh, you mean you need to find the coefficients, not just implement the FIR filter itself. (Perhaps to

Re: Printable string for 'self'

2006-03-15 Thread Don Taylor
Fredrik Lundh wrote: objects don't have names in Python, and the source is not part of the running program. have you read this ? http://effbot.org/zone/python-objects.htm I have now. Thank you very much. objects don't have names in Python: It appears from the code that Michael

Re: Very, Very Green Python User

2006-03-15 Thread Scott David Daniels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott David Daniels wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Is the Python debugger fairly stable? Yes, but it is not massively featured. The Pythonic way is to rarely use a debugger (test first and straightforward code should lead to shallow bugs). Often for most of us

Re: FIR filtering

2006-03-15 Thread LabWINC
I'm interested in finding coefficient and implementig the filter as well. John's post is what i need. John Hunter wrote: help scipy.filter (see FIR filter design below) How can i get the help like yours? If i type help scipy.filter it give me an error help scipy.filter File input, line 1

Re: WORKAROUND the Python GUI-lib situation ...

2006-03-15 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
a far better position for most non-trivial UIs, becuase it has infrastructure that win32 (pretty much alone among modern UI toolkits) lacks, like layout algorithms and i18ln support. Qt has all of this. On all platforms. Just for the record. I know - so do almost all other toolkits,

Re: Installing PySQLite on OS X 10.4

2006-03-15 Thread Rob Cowie
Gerhard Häring wrote: Rob Cowie wrote: [...] However, if I do from pysqlite2 import test as suggested after installation, I get the following traceback... Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in ? File pysqlite2/test/__init__.py, line 25, in ? from

Re: WORKAROUND the Python GUI-lib situation ...

2006-03-15 Thread robert
Chris Mellon wrote: win32gui and wxPython use *exactly* the same controls in almost all (win32ui or win32gui? the later is almost only a better ctypes replacement ) cases. If you're seeing something donald duck then you're either doing something wrong, or you're using a custom control. wx

Re: newbie questions

2006-03-15 Thread keirr
meeper34 wrote: Hi, I'm just starting out with Python, and so far I am thoroughly impressed with what you can do very easily with the language. I'm coming from a C++ background here. A couple of questions came up as I was thinking about dynamically typed languages: 1. If someone

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread Alex Martelli
robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ( And that later scheme is fairly wonderful - compare for example the namespace fuzz in C/C++, Pascal, Ruby, ... where you never know which module file addeds what to which namespace; Pascal (per se) doesn't really have much by the way of namespaces

Re: global, globals(), _global ?

2006-03-15 Thread Alex Martelli
robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using global variables in Python often raises chaos. Other languages use a clear prefix for globals. Ruby does ($ means global), but, what other languages? Perl, C, C++, Java (taking a class's statics as Java's equivalent of other languages' globals), etc, etc,

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