Leo 4.4.3 final released

2007-06-26 Thread Edward K Ream
Leo 4.4.3 final is available at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3458package_id=29106 Leo is a text editor, data organizer, project manager and much more. See: http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/intro.html The highlights of Leo 4.4.3: - Added

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Adriano Varoli Piazza
Twisted wrote: With the latest stuff like Ubuntu, you're pretty much right ... until something goes wrong. Windows has . [...] Linux has ... the command line, or worse a GRUB or fsck prompt at startup. No access to accessible, easy to browse help right when you need it most. I suppose you

Re: Python Info.

2007-06-26 Thread Stefan Behnel
Brandon wrote: Check it out: www.BrandonsMansion.com Why? Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Mirror Urls

2007-06-26 Thread Squzer
I am involving in the development of a crawler. i need my script to detect the mirror urls of the page. so that i can ignor the urls. Please tell me any idea to detect.. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread 7stud
On Jun 25, 7:23 pm, 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python. I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions: http://switch.richard5.net/isp-in-a-box-v2/installing-apache-on-mac-o... and everything seemed to

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Twisted
On Jun 26, 2:01 am, Adriano Varoli Piazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twisted wrote: With the latest stuff like Ubuntu, you're pretty much right ... until something goes wrong. Windows has . [...] Linux has ... the command line, or worse a GRUB or fsck prompt at startup. No access to

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread kaens
. A live CD might make that less of an issue, though it would still be a pain if you had to keep using it as a workaround for days while waiting for a mailing list or usenet response explaining what the f*#! bad zixflob in fuzzwangle.rc, aborting meant and how to fix it, especially as a

Re: Python Info.

2007-06-26 Thread kaens
It was like being slapped with the mid-90s On 6/26/07, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon wrote: Check it out: www.BrandonsMansion.com Why? Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread 7stud
Ok. If I try to start Personal Web Sharing while Apache is running, it says Web Sharing starting up..., but it never does. Then if I close the window and restart my imac, my imac boots up with Personal Web Sharing turned on. I still can't figure out where the page that says It works! is

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread kaens
On 6/26/07, 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. If I try to start Personal Web Sharing while Apache is running, it says Web Sharing starting up..., but it never does. Then if I close the window and restart my imac, my imac boots up with Personal Web Sharing turned on. I still can't figure

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread 7stud
On Jun 26, 12:52 am, kaens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If apache2 works on macs how it does on linux (it should, right?) there should be Apache2/sites-enabled and Apache2/sites-available directories - the default files in these will tell you what pages are being served, I believe. There are no

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:51:34 -, Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C-h i, C-x b RET is non-trivial?!? [...] I'm sorry. I don't speak Chinese. I trust I've made my point. Not only does it insist you learn a whole other language (though I'm guessing it's not actually Chinese -- Greek,

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:08:02 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lpr /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/etc/refcard.ps or your install-dir^^ or your version.^ So now we're expected to go on a filesystem fishing expedition instead of

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-26 Thread Paul Rubin
Douglas Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the Maclisp era functions like mapcar worked on lists, and generated equally long lists in memory. I'm aware, but there were various different mapping functions. map, as opposed to mapcar didn't return any values at all, and so you had to rely on

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread 7stud
Well, I'm able to put html pages in /Library/Apache2/htdocs/ and access them in Safari as I would expect: http://localhost/test.htm and I can access the index.html page in that directory: http://localhost/index.html and it displays: It works! Apache 2.2.4 But, if I just use the address

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Twisted
On Jun 25, 2:32 pm, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much for the free in free software. If you can't actually use it without paying money, whether for the software or for some book, it isn't really free, is it? Please do not confuse the term 'free' in 'free software' with

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread 7stud
On Jun 26, 1:34 am, 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is that coming from? Is the original index.html page(before I changed it and added Apache 2.2.4) cached by Safari somehow? That doesn't make any sense to me because when I explicitly request index.html, I get the changed output. I

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Twisted
On Jun 25, 2:28 pm, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the lowly Notepad, which I'll freely admit is the rusty bicycle of text editors, and it's much easier to use (including the help) than the supposed Mercedes-Benz of editors. Isn't this always the case? The 'interface'

Dispatching a method using PyobjC Selectors/Methods

2007-06-26 Thread sapsi
Hi, I am writing a SIMBL plugin for Mail.app, so far it loads and the correct method has been swizzled. However, i would like to call the original method and that is where the problem lies. If you could see the code(below), in console.app, i get the following error because of old(x) 2007-06-26

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread half . italian
On Jun 25, 11:09 pm, 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 7:23 pm, 7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python. I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions:

Tkinter: different results from the same tcl script

2007-06-26 Thread Fabrizio Pollastri
Hello, in mixed python-tcl programming I found the following different behaviours of the same tcl script. If I type manually in the python interpreter the following lines from Tkinter import * w = Tk() w.tk.evalfile('my_tcl_script.tcl') where my_tcl_script.tcl is #!/bin/sh

Re: Installing python under the linux

2007-06-26 Thread vedrandekovic
Danyelle Gragsone je napisao/la: Hi, Yeah .. if its ubuntu then you have python already installed. I would suggest that you start reading the documentation on your distro. How did you get your distro if you don't know what it is? That concerns me a bit. Ubuntu has alot of documentation

Re: Tkinter: different results from the same tcl script

2007-06-26 Thread half . italian
On Jun 26, 1:06 am, Fabrizio Pollastri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, in mixed python-tcl programming I found the following different behaviours of the same tcl script. If I type manually in the python interpreter the following lines from Tkinter import * w = Tk()

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:40:55 -, Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2:32 pm, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much for the free in free software. If you can't actually use it without paying money, whether for the software or for some book, it isn't really free, is it?

Re: Face Recognition

2007-06-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Henrik Lied wrote: Hi there! Has anyone made effort to try to create a python binding to a facial recognition software [1]? For those of you with some experience - would this be very hard? OpenCV has a python-binding. And a ctypes-binding. Diez --

Re: can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread 7stud
Console and the system logs are an invaluable debugging tool on Macs. Bet you have some errors there saying why apache couldnt stop/start. What/where is Console and how do I look at the system logs? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] can't start Apache on Mac OS X--no listening sockets available?

2007-06-26 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
7stud a écrit : I'm trying to get Apache set up on my system so I can use mod_python. I installed Apache 2.2.4 according to the following instructions: http://switch.richard5.net/isp-in-a-box-v2/installing-apache-on-mac-os-x/#comment-30704 and everything seemed to install correctly, but I

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
n == nebulous99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: n On Jun 22, 6:32 pm, Cor Gest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOW IN THE BLOODY HELL IS IT SUPPOSED TO OCCUR TO SOMEONE TO ENTER THEM, GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE TO DO SO TO REACH THE HELP THAT WOULD TELL THEM THOSE ARE THE KEYS TO REACH THE HELP?! What's

Re: PEP 3107 and stronger typing (note: probably a newbie question)

2007-06-26 Thread tony . theodore
On Jun 21, 4:53 am, Stephen R Laniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I ask anything, let me note that this is surely an old question that has inspired its share of flame wars; I'm new to Python, but not new to how Internet discussions work. So if there's a canonical thread or web page that

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Long count = 12.19.14.7.15; tzolkin = 1 Men; haab = 3 Tzec. I get words from the Allmighty Great Gnus that T == Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: T And the myth of the bicycle being easy to learn persists. Did you T know that kids learn better than adults do? Why do kids pick up at T least

text-mode tree viewer?

2007-06-26 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! I'm looking for a package/routine that can convert [[Peter, [Ian, [[Randy, [Clara], Paul, [Mary, [Arthur]]] into +--- Peter | | | +--- Ian | | | +--- Randy | | |

Re: sqlite newbie questions

2007-06-26 Thread Carsten Haese
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:38:29 GMT, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: In both cases, the whole idea behind letting the adapter do parameter substitution is that the adapter will add the appropriate delimiters (quote marks, for the most part) needed for the data type. That's only the case if the

Re: Installing python under the linux

2007-06-26 Thread Paul Boddie
On 25 Jun, 22:50, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really do not recommend installing from source for somebody like you who knows nothing about Python or Linux. Can explain why you think you want to install Python from source instead of using the Python that's already installed on

Re: simplifying algebraic expressions

2007-06-26 Thread Robin Becker
Hi, Are there any libraries for manipulating algebraic expression trees? In particular, take an expression tree and simplify it down. I'm working up the next release of PyGene, the genetic programming and genetic algorithms library. Part of PyGene works with trees holding algebraic

Customizable GUI package for Win$?

2007-06-26 Thread Alex Sentry
I want to know which GUI package should I turn to if I want to make something resembling MS OneNote. A lot of packages have Notebook style widgets or tabbed stuff, but wxPython's are not really customizable from what I know, and neither are TKs. I'm not sure about pyGTK and it's primarily a

Re: simplifying algebraic expressions

2007-06-26 Thread DavidM
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:11:39 +0100, Robin Becker wrote: I have seen this sort of evolution strategy in the past and it's very wrong to attempt to simplify outside the genetic framework. The implication is that you know better than the overall fitness requirement. The additional

Re: Installing python under the linux

2007-06-26 Thread Stefan Behnel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any folder with that basic Python on ubuntu linux where can I find file Grammar and change the names of python keywords. AFAICT, the Grammar file is not part of the binary installation. So, download the Python source distribution from python.org and unpack it

Re: simplifying algebraic expressions

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Westwood
Hi David It seems that all you are asking for are the capabilities of Mathematica or Maple or some other CAS. A quick Google reveals that there is a CAS written in Python, called SAGE. That might be a good place to start; but I'll admit that I know nothing about it. I'm with Robin Becker on

Re: PEP 3107 and stronger typing (note: probably a newbie question)

2007-06-26 Thread harri
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: [...] It seems obvious from this that static typecheking would require dropping all dynamism from Python - then turning it into another, very different (and mostly useless as far as I'm concerned) language. IOW : you can't have Python *and* static typechecks - both

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Martin Gregorie
Twisted wrote: First, I didn't claim the ideal WP was necessarily perfectly WYSIWYG. Maybe I should have clarified my viewpoint. When it comes to programs that operate on the content of textual documents a word processor is WYSIWYG by definition. Anything else is a text editor. You may have

Re: text-mode tree viewer?

2007-06-26 Thread Martin Skou
Not quite, but almost: data=[[Peter, [Ian, [[Randy, [Clara], Paul, [Mary, [Arthur]]] def show(data,level): for i in data: if i.__class__.__name__=='list': show(i,level+1)

Re: Python Info.

2007-06-26 Thread Joe Riopel
On 6/26/07, kaens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was like being slapped with the mid-90s That was awesome. On 6/26/07, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon wrote: Check it out: www.BrandonsMansion.com That is horrible. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Portable general timestamp format, not 2038-limited

2007-06-26 Thread Martin Gregorie
Paul Rubin wrote: Martin Gregorie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: pretend the leap seconds never happened, just as Java does. Which leaves you about 30 seconds out by now - smelly. Easy solution: always read Zulu time directly from a recognized real-time clock That's no good, it doesn't let

Re: text-mode tree viewer?

2007-06-26 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Martin Skou writes: Not quite, but almost: data=[[Peter, [Ian, [[Randy, [Clara], Paul, [Mary, [Arthur]]] This was flawed, there were two brackets too much: data=[[Peter, [Ian, [Randy,

Re: Collections of non-arbitrary objects ?

2007-06-26 Thread walterbyrd
On Jun 24, 10:31 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You perhaps don't know this, but most statically typed languages have the notion of either pointers or references, that can cause similar - and usually worse - problems. Yes, but those languages also have the notion of

Problem with wxPython

2007-06-26 Thread Ali
Hi I'm not sure if this is the right place to post, pardon me if it's not. I'm having a problem with an application written with wxpython. The frame seems only to refresh when moving my mouse of it, though i frequently call: frame.Refresh(True). In fact, that line is called by another thread,

Re: eggs considered harmful

2007-06-26 Thread Harry George
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John J. Lee) writes: Harry George [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John J. Lee) writes: [...] 2. You can run your own private egg repository. IIRC, it's as simple as a directory of eggs and a plain old web server with directory listings turned on. You then

Change Geany Syntax Highlighting

2007-06-26 Thread Scott
Hi, I think I may have finally found a IDE/text editor that I like, but, it still haves one problem. Geany haves syntax highlighting, but it is not very good for Python. It only seems to have a couple different colours. One for text and another for modules/classes/ functions. Is it

_hashlib portability issue

2007-06-26 Thread Olivier Feys
Hi all, I build python 2.5 on linux-x86-64 (centos). Why is lib-dynload/_hashlib.so dynamically linked with libssl.so.0.9.7 and not with libssl.so that points on it (same thing for libcrypto.so)? This causes problems when copying all the python distribution and running it on a different os,

Re: text-mode tree viewer?

2007-06-26 Thread Martin Skou
Torsten Bronger wrote: It doesn't show Paul and Mary on the same level. I (think I) solved the problem with this: I could do so if Poul was in a list of his own, like Arthur and Clara. /Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Leo 4.4.3 final released

2007-06-26 Thread Edward K Ream
Leo 4.4.3 final is available at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3458package_id=29106 Leo is a text editor, data organizer, project manager and much more. See: http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/intro.html The highlights of Leo 4.4.3: - Added

Re: Installing python under the linux

2007-06-26 Thread vedrandekovic
Hello, No. The only way to change the keywords would be to edit the Python source and re-compile it. This was very helpful information , I already know that but I don't know how to that.PLEASE HELP ME ABOUT THIS, I WILL BE VERY GRATEFUL TO YOU. ( IF you can please step by step how to I install

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Matthias Buelow
Twisted wrote: [...] Hey dude, get back to selling used cars and leave us computer geeks alone, will ya? Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Collections of non-arbitrary objects ?

2007-06-26 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
walterbyrd a écrit : On Jun 24, 10:31 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You perhaps don't know this, but most statically typed languages have the notion of either pointers or references, that can cause similar - and usually worse - problems. Yes, but those languages also

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread David Kastrup
Matthias Buelow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Twisted wrote: [...] Hey dude, get back to selling used cars and leave us computer geeks alone, will ya? Well, how will his customers react to the stories about avoiding Mercedes cars because of people getting hit in the face by the crank start?

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread notbob
On 2007-06-25, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X11 interface. I don't see why Notepad is special in any way here. It's not. I discovered, quite by accident, wordpad is the superior text editor in windows. It even properly formats those cryptic brag pages crackers put in cracked

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Bjorn Borud
[Robert Uhl [EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Once again I am forced to wonder if you have _ever_ actually used | emacs. find-file has tab completion: hit tab without anything typed, and | it displays _everything_ in the directory; type a few characters to | narrow it down; hit tab to complete the filename

Help needed in Handling HTML file

2007-06-26 Thread senthil arasu
Hi, Right now Iam handling HTML files using Python. Is there any modules to support HTML parsing and rendering ? or suggest me any other way to support HTML. thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Converting Diff Output to XML?

2007-06-26 Thread Debajit Adhikary
What would be the best way to convert the regular (unix) diff output into XML? Are there any libraries at all which might help? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Bjorn Borud
[Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Really? None of this happens if you just do the straightforward file- | open command, which should obviously at least provide a navigable | directory tree, but definitely does not. well, if you insist on using Emacs in the most clumsy way possible, then of course,

Re: Help needed in Handling HTML file

2007-06-26 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:42:37AM -0500, senthil arasu wrote: Right now Iam handling HTML files using Python. Is there any modules to support HTML parsing and rendering ? or suggest me any other way to support HTML. Parsing: BeautifulSoup http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/

Re: Installing python under the linux

2007-06-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, No. The only way to change the keywords would be to edit the Python source and re-compile it. This was very helpful information , I already know that but I don't know how to that.PLEASE HELP ME ABOUT THIS, I WILL BE VERY GRATEFUL TO YOU. ( IF you can

logging anomaly

2007-06-26 Thread Jesse James
I have some fairly simply code in a turbogears controller that uploads files. In this code, I inserted a 'start uploading' and a 'done uploading' log record like this: logger.info('- start uploading file: '+Filename) # copy file to specified location. while 1:

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Bjorn Borud
[Robert Uhl [EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Agreed. Stallman got sidetracked by Scheme, which IMHO was a | dead-end. too many people buying SICP and believing what they heard about it being an important book. I too spent some time exploring Scheme, or should I say, wasted some time, years ago, and

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Bjorn Borud
[Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]] | On Jun 23, 2:04 am, Robert Uhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Of course, emacs doesn't take years of mastery. It takes 30, 40 | minutes. | | I gave it twice that, and it failed to grow on me in that amount of | time. then it just wasn't meant to be. stick to

Help needed with translating perl to python

2007-06-26 Thread vj
I have a perl script which connect to network stream using sockets. The scripts first logins in to the server and then parses the data comming from the socket. Statement 1: my $today = sprintf(%4s%02s%02s, [localtime()]-[5]+1900, [localtime()]-[4]+1, [localtime()]-[3]) ; Statement 2: my

Re: Output XML buffer?

2007-06-26 Thread Jan Danielsson
Stefan Behnel wrote: [---] lxml.etree already implements that, BTW. http://codespeak.net/lxml Ok, thanks. I'll take a look at it. [---] Some people propose just that if you really *want* a declaration. No need to have it, though, as ET will create well-formed XML anyway. Yeah, I

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread Bjorn Borud
[Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | and you said that depended on the definition of expert. Apparently | you believe there is a type of expert for whom beginner-friendly | software is intrinsically less usable than beginner-hostile | software. no, I was alluding to you thinking that posession of

popen and a long running process in a wx.python application

2007-06-26 Thread Doru Moisa
Hello, How can I capture the output of a long runnning process which I open with popen() ? I tried reading line by line, char by char, but the result always comes when the process finishes. (I am trying to make a wx.python program that opens some make ... with popen). How can I receive the output

Re: Help needed with translating perl to python

2007-06-26 Thread vj
I posted too soon: Statement 1: my $today = sprintf(%4s%02s%02s, [localtime()]-[5]+1900, [localtime()]-[4]+1, [localtime()]-[3]) ; 1. is localtime the same as time in python? 2. What does - ? do in perl? 3. What is 'my' Statement 2: my $password = md5_hex($today$username) ; is md5_hex

RE: Collections of non-arbitrary objects ?

2007-06-26 Thread Hamilton, William
From: walterbyrd Yes, but those languages also have the notion of structures that do not allow arbitrary collections. That is what I was wondering about when I started the thread. It's fine that python has four different ways of creating collections of arbitrary data types, but I thought

Re: Problem with wxPython

2007-06-26 Thread Chris Mellon
On 6/26/07, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm not sure if this is the right place to post, pardon me if it's not. I'm having a problem with an application written with wxpython. The frame seems only to refresh when moving my mouse of it, though i frequently call: frame.Refresh(True). In

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

2007-06-26 Thread David Kastrup
Bjorn Borud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | and you said that depended on the definition of expert. Apparently | you believe there is a type of expert for whom beginner-friendly | software is intrinsically less usable than beginner-hostile | software. no, I was

Re: Help needed with translating perl to python

2007-06-26 Thread Jay Loden
vj wrote: I posted too soon: Statement 1: my $today = sprintf(%4s%02s%02s, [localtime()]-[5]+1900, [localtime()]-[4]+1, [localtime()]-[3]) ; 1. is localtime the same as time in python? http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/localtime.html It's more like time.localtime() One key thing

Re: PEP 3107 and stronger typing (note: probably a newbie question)

2007-06-26 Thread paul
Bruno Desthuilliers schrieb: Stephen R Laniel a écrit : On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 09:41:09PM +0100, Michael Hoffman wrote: If you asked Java programmers why you couldn't turn *off* Java's static type checking if you wanted to, you'd probably get a similar response. Perhaps it would help for me

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-26 Thread Andy Freeman
On Jun 26, 12:26 am, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely, I think that's what Alexander was trying to get across, Lisp didn't have a uniform interface for traversing different types of sequence. And he's wrong, at least as far as common lisp is concerned - map does exactly

Return name of caller function?

2007-06-26 Thread Matthew Peter
For example, how do I get this to work? def func(): print This is, __?__ return __caller__ def echo(): print This is , __?__ return func() print echo() This is echo This is func echo

Hi How to implement switch case statement.

2007-06-26 Thread parasuram.nooranianand
Hi My requirement is to check a variable with a set of constant values and call a particular function depending on the value of the variable. A C-language implementation might look something like : switch (a) { case 1 : func1(); case 2 : func2() ; default : func3(); } How

Re: PEP 3107 and stronger typing (note: probably a newbie question)

2007-06-26 Thread Chris Mellon
On 6/26/07, paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers schrieb: Stephen R Laniel a écrit : On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 09:41:09PM +0100, Michael Hoffman wrote: If you asked Java programmers why you couldn't turn *off* Java's static type checking if you wanted to, you'd probably get a

Re: Return name of caller function?

2007-06-26 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 06:27:29PM -0700, Matthew Peter wrote: For example, how do I get this to work? def func(): print This is, __?__ return __caller__ def echo(): print This is , __?__ return func() inspect is your friend:

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-26 Thread Andy Freeman
On Jun 26, 8:49 am, Andy Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Map doesn't work on generators or iterators because they're not part of the common lisp spec, but if someone implemented them as a library, said library could easily include a map that handled them as well. Note that this is is a

Re: Help needed with translating perl to python

2007-06-26 Thread attn . steven . kuo
On Jun 26, 8:04 am, vj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a perl script which connect to network stream using sockets. The scripts first logins in to the server and then parses the data comming from the socket. Statement 1: my $today = sprintf(%4s%02s%02s, [localtime()]-[5]+1900,

Re: Help needed with translating perl to python

2007-06-26 Thread Greg Armer
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 08:17:06AM -0700, vj wrote: I posted too soon: Statement 1: my $today = sprintf(%4s%02s%02s, [localtime()]-[5]+1900, [localtime()]-[4]+1, [localtime()]-[3]) ; 1. is localtime the same as time in python? You could use this instead - from time import localtime today =

Re: Python changing keywords name

2007-06-26 Thread Sion Arrowsmith
Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I hope nobody will abuse this technique... Y perd=F3n a los hispanoparlantes por lo horrible de la traducci=F3n). Ah, I only spotted this when I came to post a response. And the reason I was going to post a response was that these: 'assert':

Re: logging anomaly

2007-06-26 Thread Vinay Sajip
On Jun 26, 3:48 pm, Jesse James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007-06-26 07:59:38,192 vor.uploader INFO - start uploading file: 7_Canyons_Clip_1.flv 2007-06-26 07:59:38,206 vor.uploader INFO - done uploading file: 7_Canyons_Clip_1.flv I know this is wrong because this is a large file

Re: eggs considered harmful

2007-06-26 Thread Robert Kern
Harry George wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John J. Lee) writes: Not sure how this differs significantly from running a repository, in the sense I use it above. John Significant differences: depot: Place(s) where tarballs can be stored, and can then be reached via http. private egg

Re: Installing python under the linux

2007-06-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-06-26, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. The only way to change the keywords would be to edit the Python source and re-compile it. This was very helpful information , I already know that but I don't know how to that.PLEASE HELP ME ABOUT THIS, I WILL BE VERY GRATEFUL TO

Re: Installing python under the linux

2007-06-26 Thread Evan Klitzke
On 6/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, No. The only way to change the keywords would be to edit the Python source and re-compile it. This was very helpful information , I already know that but I don't know how to that.PLEASE HELP ME ABOUT THIS, I WILL BE VERY

Re: _hashlib portability issue

2007-06-26 Thread Robert Kern
Olivier Feys wrote: Hi all, I build python 2.5 on linux-x86-64 (centos). Why is lib-dynload/_hashlib.so dynamically linked with libssl.so.0.9.7 and not with libssl.so that points on it (same thing for libcrypto.so)? This causes problems when copying all the python distribution and

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-26 Thread Paul Rubin
Andy Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And he's wrong, at least as far as common lisp is concerned - map does exactly that. http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_map.htm sequence there just means vectors and lists. Map doesn't work on generators or iterators because

Re: popen and a long running process in a wx.python application

2007-06-26 Thread kyosohma
On Jun 26, 10:16 am, Doru Moisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, How can I capture the output of a long runnning process which I open with popen() ? I tried reading line by line, char by char, but the result always comes when the process finishes. (I am trying to make a wx.python program

Re: Hi How to implement switch case statement.

2007-06-26 Thread Evan Klitzke
Read this thread, which was discussed on the list a few days ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/python-list@python.org/msg150704.html On 6/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi My requirement is to check a variable with a set of constant values and call a particular

Re: Python's only one way to do it philosophy isn't good?

2007-06-26 Thread Paul Rubin
Andy Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Compare that with what a programmer using Python 2.4 has to do if she'd like the functionality provided by 2.5's with statement. Yes, with is just syntax, but it's extremely useful syntax, syntax that can be easily implemented with lisp-style macros.

Re: Portable general timestamp format, not 2038-limited

2007-06-26 Thread Paul Rubin
Martin Gregorie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't recall the OP mentioning time interval computability - just a requirement for sub second accuracy timestamps. That Y2038 is an issue suggests the OP wants a timestamp format that is future-proof and that means it should be good for all plausible

Re: Return name of caller function?

2007-06-26 Thread Jay Loden
Matthew Peter wrote: For example, how do I get this to work? def func(): print This is, __?__ return __caller__ def echo(): print This is , __?__ return func() print echo() This is echo This is func echo This may not be what you're looking for but here's the

Re: Help needed with translating perl to python

2007-06-26 Thread attn . steven . kuo
On Jun 26, 8:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snipped) def bcdlen(*args): ... strlen = %04s % str(args[0]) ... firstval = int(strlen[2:3]) * 16 + int(strlen[3:4]) ... lastval = int(strlen[0:1]) * 16 + int(strlen[1:2]) ... return %s%s % (chr(firstval), chr(lastval)) ...

Re: Internals and complexity of types, containers and algorithms

2007-06-26 Thread Harald Luessen
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 James Stroud wrote: Harald Luessen wrote: Hi, I am new to python and I miss some understanding of the internals of some types and containers. With my C/C++ background I hope to get some hints to chose the best data structure for my programs. Here are some questions:

Re: Internals and complexity of types, containers and algorithms

2007-06-26 Thread Harald Luessen
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 Martin v. Löwis wrote: Sure, see below: - tuples are represented as arrays, with a single block for the entire objects (object header, tuple size, and data) - list are represented as arrays, with two memory blocks: one for object header and sizes, and the other one for

problem mixing gettext and properties

2007-06-26 Thread André
I've encountered a problem using gettext with properties while using a Python interpreter. Here's a simple program that illustrate the problem. == # i18n_test.py: test of gettext properties import gettext fr = gettext.translation('i18n_test', './translations', languages=['fr'])

Re: Indenting in Emacs

2007-06-26 Thread Rustom Mody
Ive been struggling with this same question -- which python mode -- for a while but not getting anywhere! I understand (from the emacs list) that the new python mode has better support for debugging (pdbtrack in addition to pdb) but dont know much more. On 6/26/07, John J. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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