Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread Virgil Dupras
On Dec 10, 8:15 am, farsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wrote a software and I want to protect it so can not be cracked > easily. I wrote it in python and compile it using py2exe. what is the > best way in your opinion? Don't. This is a fight you already lost. Besides, people who crack softwar

Job Offer: Python Ninja or Pirate!

2007-12-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: My very first python web app (no framework)

2007-12-10 Thread scardig
On 9 Dic, 15:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is my first Python web pseudo-app: "you give me some data, I give > you func(data)". I'm on a shared host with mod_fastcgi so I installed > a virtual python environment + flup (no middleware now, just wsgi > server). > > = dispatch.fcgi =

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-10 Thread Virgil Dupras
On Dec 9, 1:15 am, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Jones a écrit : > > > > > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > > >>class A(object): > >> @apply > >> def a(): > >> def fget(self): > >> return self._a > >> def fset(self, val): > >> self._a = val > >> re

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On Dec 9, 10:54 pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 9:43 am, "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking for a linked list implementation. Something iterable with > > constant time insertion anywhere in the list. > > It's on

abusing exceptions for continuations

2007-12-10 Thread gangesmaster
i've had this strange idea of using the exception's traceback (which holds the stack frame) to enable functional continuations, meaning, raise some special exception which will be caught by a reactor/ scheduler/framework, which could later revive it by restoring the frame. i'm thinking of using th

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread farsheed
Thanks. But I ask this question technically, I mean I know nothing is uncrackable and popular softwares are not well protected. But my software is not that type and I don't want this specific software popular. It is some kind of in house tool and I want to copy protect it. this is very complicated

Re: setdefaultencoding error

2007-12-10 Thread smalltalk
thank you very much I have solved -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: how to get module globals into a class ?

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Otten
stef mientki wrote: > hello, > > this question may look a little weird, > but I want to create library shells that are a simple as possible. > > So I've a module where one base class is defined, > which looks like this (and might be complex) > > base_class_file.py > class brick_base ( objec

RE: I'm missing something here with range vs. xrange

2007-12-10 Thread Joe Goldthwaite
>You can't imagine why someone might prefer an iterative solution over >a greedy one? Depending on the conditions, the cost of creating the >list can be a greater or a lesser part of the total time spent. Actual >iteration is essentially the same cost for both. Try looking at memory >usage while yo

RE: I'm missing something here with range vs. xrange

2007-12-10 Thread Joe Goldthwaite
>You bring up an excellent point. It might seem like I'm actually running on >a Macbook Pro with an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2.33 GHz with 2 GB of ram. Err... Uhh... What I meant to say was "It might seem like I'm running on an old slow POS but I'm actually running on a Macbook Pro..." Sorry, me fl

a way to keep track of # of clicks

2007-12-10 Thread Shawn Minisall
Is there a way to keep track of the number of times someone clicks on a menu item in a prorgam? What I want to do is make the rectangle disappear after they click on it at the main menu 3 times so visually show them they can't do it any longer. Since I appended the button to a main menu list,

Re: a strange SyntaxError

2007-12-10 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
> self.numlines = self.config['numlines'] > > self.w = 520 > self.h = 12*self.numfeeds*(self.numlines+1) why extra ident here? -- Vladimir Rusinov GreenMice Solutions: IT-решения на базе Linux http://greenmice.info/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/py

Converting HTML TO PDF using PYTHON

2007-12-10 Thread vinoj davis
Please tell me if we can convert a html file into a pdf using python..i am using Python  2.3.4.Regards,    ---ViNOJ DAViS--- Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread Virgil Dupras
On Dec 10, 9:55 am, farsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. But I ask this question technically, I mean I know nothing is > uncrackable and popular softwares are not well protected. But my > software is not that type and I don't want this specific software > popular. > It is some kind of in h

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread bearophileHUGS
Adonis Vargas: > Also, you should never use reserved words like 'dict' this creates > confusion and can cause Python to misbehave since you are rebinding the > name. > Adonis Vargas After hearing this suggestion for the 300th time, I think it may be the moment to fix this problem in Python3, and m

Re: [OT] Guide me on Apache Virtual server+mod_python

2007-12-10 Thread Ravi Kumar
thanks a lot. I am still trying to get it working. I think i will have to register those subdomains in CISCO as the hostame of same ip somehow. For the same configuration, I can have those subdomains.domain.ext open in my localhost, but from other system, I can't access it. No comments or error dis

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread John Machin
On Dec 10, 7:37 pm, Arnaud Delobelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 9, 10:54 pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 10, 9:43 am, "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm looking for a linked list implementation. Something it

Re: Converting Excel time-format (hours since 1.1.1901)

2007-12-10 Thread Dirk Hagemann
On 9 Dez., 18:38, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 9, 8:52�am, Dirk Hagemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 7 Dez., 22:36, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 8, 12:20 am, Dirk Hagemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > From a zo

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread Seongsu Lee
On 12월10일, 오후12시18분, Adonis Vargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seongsu Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > I have a dictionary with million keys. Each value in the > > dictionary has a list with up to thousand integers. > > Follow is a simple example with 5 keys. > > > dict = {1: [1, 2, 3, 4, 5], > >2: [

Re: dictionary of dictionaries

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Otten
kettle wrote: > On Dec 9, 5:49 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:35:18 -0800, kettle wrote: >> > Hi, >> > I'm wondering what the best practice is for creating an extensible >> > dictionary-of-dictionaries in python? >> >> > In perl I would just do

Re: a strange SyntaxError

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Otten
John Machin wrote: > As viewed with Google Groups, lines 40/41, 63/69, and 89 are indented 8 > spaces more than they should be. > > When I save your file and try to run it, I get this: C:\junk>coolgenie.py > File "C:\junk\coolgenie.py", line 40 > self.w = 520 > ^ > IndentationError: une

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
MonkeeSage a écrit : > On Dec 8, 4:11 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers (snip) >>> I think it muddies the water to say that a.a() and a.a are the same >>> thing--obviously they are not. >> Indeed. a.a yields the object bound to name 'a' in object a, while a.a() >> yields the value returned by calling the obj

Importing functions that require parameters

2007-12-10 Thread Matt_D
Good afternoon. As a self-tutoring project I am writing a one-time-pad encrypt/decrypt script. I have completed the encryption portion and am working currently on the decryption algorithm. My goal is to have the encrypt and decrypt be individual modules vice two parts of the same. My problem, or

Re: My very first python web app (no framework)

2007-12-10 Thread A.T.Hofkamp
On 2007-12-10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9 Dic, 15:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Is it the right way to go? Is it safe in a web production >> environment ? Is it thread-friendly (since flup is threaded) ? >> >> tnx > > Any hint ? If you as author are asking, my bet is on

Re: Is a "real" C-Python possible?

2007-12-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Jack a écrit : > I understand that the standard Python distribution is considered > the C-Python. Howerver, the current C-Python is really a combination > of C and Python implementation. There are about 2000 Python files > included in the Windows version of Python distribution. I'm not sure > how m

Re: Newbie edit/compile/run cycle question

2007-12-10 Thread Simon Forman
On Dec 8, 6:45 pm, Jeremy C B Nicoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Jeremy C B Nicoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What command (in XP) does one need to issue to > > >syntaxcheck a saved python > > > script without running it? > > > Perhaps oversi

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread farsheed
So you say there is not any trusted way? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Importing functions that require parameters

2007-12-10 Thread Chris
On Dec 10, 12:41 pm, Matt_D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good afternoon. > > As a self-tutoring project I am writing a one-time-pad encrypt/decrypt > script. I have completed the encryption portion and am working > currently on the decryption algorithm. My goal is to have the encrypt > and decrypt

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread Paul Boddie
On Dec 10, 9:55 am, farsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. But I ask this question technically, I mean I know nothing is > uncrackable and popular softwares are not well protected. But my > software is not that type and I don't want this specific software > popular. Understood. > It is som

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:55:13 -0800, farsheed wrote: > Thanks. But I ask this question technically, I mean I know nothing is > uncrackable and popular softwares are not well protected. But my > software is not that type and I don't want this specific software > popular. Then make it as ugly and un

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread Tim Chase
> So you say there is not any trusted way? You cannot distribute any program with the expectation that it cannot be reverse engineered. Despite what various protection companies would have folks believe. At some point, the user's CPU has to execute the code, and at that point, it can be intercep

Re: __iadd__ useless in sub-classed int

2007-12-10 Thread A.T.Hofkamp
On 2007-12-06, samwyse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 6, 1:12 pm, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And that's my complaint. The value in is being replaced by > something almost, but not quite, identical to the original value. > Python's internal implementation of __iadd__ for

Re: Importing functions that require parameters

2007-12-10 Thread John Machin
On Dec 10, 9:41 pm, Matt_D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good afternoon. > > As a self-tutoring project I am writing a one-time-pad encrypt/decrypt > script. I have completed the encryption portion and am working > currently on the decryption algorithm. My goal is to have the encrypt > and decrypt b

Re: Is a "real" C-Python possible?

2007-12-10 Thread Paul Boddie
On Dec 9, 10:43 pm, "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://blog.snaplogic.org/?p=55 There's some choice nonsense here, albeit on a different topic: "Coding for wxwidgets, using a QT or GTK bridge, or using TCL/TK is hardly an optimal solution when writing complex graphical applications, and

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
It seems that I've got a short-circuit somewhere here. I understand that everything is an object and the the storage/lookup system is object-agnostic, and that it is only the descriptors (or "tags" as I called them generically) that determine how an attribute is bound, whether it is bound at all, w

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread Carl Banks
On Dec 10, 6:26 am, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you say there is not any trusted way? > > You cannot distribute any program with the expectation that it > cannot be reverse engineered. [snip] >From the OP's post, it seemed likely to me that the OP was asked by a misguided manageme

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread BlueBird
On Dec 10, 8:15 am, farsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wrote a software and I want to protect it so can not be cracked > easily. I wrote it in python and compile it using py2exe. what is the > best way in your opinion? I used SoftwarePassport ( http://www.siliconrealms.com/ ) for exactly this

Re: Equivalent of perl's Pod::Usage?

2007-12-10 Thread Adam Funk
On 2007-12-08, Neil Cerutti wrote: > On 2007-12-08, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 20:12:21 +, Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: >> >>> I'm using to using Pod::Usage in my Perl programs (a snipped example >>> is sh

Re: Equivalent of perl's Pod::Usage?

2007-12-10 Thread Adam Funk
On 2007-12-08, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 20:12:21 +, Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > >> I'm using to using Pod::Usage in my Perl programs (a snipped example >> is shown below, if you're interested) to generate a little man page

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread Tim Chase
> So, are there any ways to make it "harder" to reverse engineer a > program? In addition to the standby of -Don't distribute your program (SaaS) I'll add to the list: -Only distribute your program to people too non-technical to consider reverse-engineering -Don't document your program (or eve

Error when executing the library reference echo server example

2007-12-10 Thread diego . martin . a
Hi. Python newbie speaking, I've copy/pasted the example of the echo server that comes in the IDLE documentation ("Python Library Reference" section 17.2.3) to see how the sockets work. The only change I've made is in the host address which I've set to 'localhost' in the client. You can see the co

Re: how to convert 3 byte to float

2007-12-10 Thread Mario M. Mueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] >> But I'm experiencing some strange jumps in the data (seismic data is >> mostly quite smooth at 40 Hz sampling rate). I think I did some mistake >> in the byte order... > > Probably. In your code sample, when you pad it to 32-bits, why are you > inserting every thi

Re: how to convert 3 byte to float

2007-12-10 Thread Mario M. Mueller
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > "Mario M. Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I uploaded a short sample data file under >> http://www.FastShare.org/download/test.bin - maybe one can give me >> another hint... In a full data example max value is 1179760 (in case one >> looks only at the eye-ca

GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread Achim Domma
Hi, I'm looking for quite some time now for a gui library for python, which allows me to display 3D graphics. Main OS is windows, Mac OS X and Linux would be nice to have. I want to use python 2.5. My first try was wx + pyOpenGL but there are no working binaries for python 2.5. I simply have to di

Re: Error when executing the library reference echo server example

2007-12-10 Thread Chris
On Dec 10, 2:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi. Python newbie speaking, > > I've copy/pasted the example of the echo server that comes in the IDLE > documentation ("Python Library Reference" section 17.2.3) to see how > the sockets work. The only change I've made is in the host address > which I

Re: Error when executing the library reference echo server example

2007-12-10 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:16:03 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi. Python newbie speaking, > >I've copy/pasted the example of the echo server that comes in the IDLE >documentation ("Python Library Reference" section 17.2.3) to see how >the sockets work. The only change I've made is in the host

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-12-10, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-09, Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm looking for a linked list implementation. Something >> iterable with constant time insertion anywhere in the list. I >> was wondering if deque() i

Re: GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Achim Domma wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for quite some time now for a gui library for python, > which allows me to display 3D graphics. Main OS is windows, Mac OS X > and Linux would be nice to have. I want to use python 2.5. My first > try was wx + pyOpenGL but there are no working binaries for

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 3:50 am, Seongsu Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12월10일, 오후12시18분, Adonis Vargas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Seongsu Lee wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a dictionary with million keys. Each value in the > > > dictionary has a list with up to thousand integers. > > > Follow

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
MonkeeSage a écrit : > It seems that I've got a short-circuit somewhere here. I understand > that everything is an object and the the storage/lookup system is > object-agnostic, and that it is only the descriptors (or "tags" as I > called them generically) "descriptor" is a protocol - an interface

Re: Job Offer: Python Ninja or Pirate!

2007-12-10 Thread James Matthews
Please post on the job forum! On Dec 10, 2007 9:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Etsy is an online marketplace for buying and selling all things > handmade: clothing, music, furniture, > software, jewelry, robots. We launched on June 18, 2005, and ever > since then have been

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Otten
Neil Cerutti wrote: > [linked lists] don't work well with Python iterators, which aren't > suitable for a linked list's purposes--so you have to give up the > happy-joy for loop syntax in favor of Python's frowny-sad while loops. You can always move the while-loop into a generator and use for-lo

Re: Importing functions that require parameters

2007-12-10 Thread Matt_D
On Dec 10, 2:46 pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "requires a parameter from elsewhere in the imported module" is a > concept I don't understand. > > Here is what I think that you need to do in your main script: > > import sys > import otp_encrypt > the_key = opt_encrypt.get_key(sys.argv

Re: Is a "real" C-Python possible?

2007-12-10 Thread hunter . grubbs
On Dec 9, 3:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I understand that the standard Python distribution is considered > >the C-Python. Howerver, the current C-Python is really a combination > >of C and Python implementation. T

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:56:10 -0800, MonkeeSage wrote: > So, when I say that all callable attributes (or to be more precise, all > callable attributes bound to objects other than toplevel) are "methods," > what am I missing? Everything that isn't a method but is callable. class Callable(object):

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 7:19 am, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > MonkeeSage a écrit : > > > It seems that I've got a short-circuit somewhere here. I understand > > that everything is an object and the the storage/lookup system is > > object-agnostic, and that it is only the descriptors (or "tags" as I > > called

Re: Importing functions that require parameters

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Otten
Matt_D wrote: >> import sys >> import otp_encrypt >> the_key = opt_encrypt.get_key(sys.argv[1]) >> >> If that isn't what you want, you'll need to explain the sentence that >> starts "Now I understand", with examples of what you have tried. > > When I try: > > from otp_encrypt import get_key > >

detecting disc serial number without win32

2007-12-10 Thread PiErre
Hi, I have to run a python script on a Linux machine. This script was developed on a windows workstation and it uses the win32 library to detect the cd (or dvd) serial number (in the - format). How can I change the script to do the same task on linux? I found an old post on the same task

Re: GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread J. Robertson
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Achim Domma wrote: > [snip] >> >> Is there an alternative to wx+pyOpenGL? > > The usual suspects - mainly Qt, possibly Tk (not sure if there is a > python-available version of open gl canvasses for Tk) > > Diez togl is a Tk/OpenGL widget that can be used with python as

Re: Ruby's Template Engine for Python

2007-12-10 Thread kyosohma
On Dec 8, 3:24 pm, Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:06:15 -0800, Steve Howell wrote: > > This is what I came up with: > > >http://pylonshq.com/pastetags/form_remote_tag > > I see that Pylons uses a standard templating systems with all the JS > renderers hooked into it as s

Re: Distinguishing attributes and methods

2007-12-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
MonkeeSage a écrit : > On Dec 10, 7:19 am, Bruno Desthuilliers I'm going to give the "Data Model" section a thorough going-over > again, and try to pay more attention this time(!) ;) Also make sure you read the docs about new-style classes, the descriptor protocol and metaclasses. > Just as a s

Re: Job Offer: Python Ninja or Pirate!

2007-12-10 Thread Nikos Vergas
> Challenge: > A valid response will be either a solution to the problem below, or a > link to some code of which you > are particularly proud. > > Problem: In the dynamic language of your choice, write a short program > that will: > 1. define a list of the following user ids 42346, 77290, 729 (yo

Re: Importing functions that require parameters

2007-12-10 Thread Matt_D
On Dec 10, 4:49 pm, Peter Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter Thanks, Peter. You answered my question precisely. I'm successfully encrypting and decrypting now. Thank you again. R, Matt -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-12-10, Peter Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neil Cerutti wrote: >> [linked lists] don't work well with Python iterators, which >> aren't suitable for a linked list's purposes--so you have to >> give up the happy-joy for loop syntax in favor of Python's >> frowny-sad while loops. > > You

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-12-10, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, building a reverse dictionary like that will be > O(n*m) because dict/list access is O(n) (ammortized). Somebody correct > me if I'm wrong. In that case, it really depends on how you will use > the dict to see whether you g

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
MonkeeSage a écrit : > On Dec 9, 6:23 pm, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Bruno, >> >> I think that we've been having a mainly "semantic" (pun intended) >> dispute. I think you're right, that we've been using the same words >> with different meanings. Fine. So we may have a chance to g

Re: GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread M�ta-MCI (MVP)
Hi! > no idea how it works with windows. On XP: fine. On Vista: very difficult... @+ MCI -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Error when executing the library reference echo server example

2007-12-10 Thread diego . martin . a
On Dec 10, 1:48 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:16:03 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Hi. Python newbie speaking, > > >I've copy/pasted the example of the echo server that comes in the IDLE > >documentation ("Python Library Reference" section 17.

Re: GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread J. Robertson
Méta-MCI (MVP) wrote: >> no idea how it works with windows. > > On XP: fine. > On Vista: very difficult... Hello Captain Obvious :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: distutils & OS X universal binaries

2007-12-10 Thread Robin Becker
Robin Becker wrote: >> Ok. Still, I would write it as >> >> #if defined(__LITTLE_ENDIAN__) >> #undef WORDS_BIGENDIAN >> #elif defined(__BIG_ENDIAN__) >> #undef WORDS_BIGENDIAN >> #define WORDS_BIGENDIAN 1 >> #endif >> >> Regards, >> Martin > I'm never sure if undef gives an error if

Re: Best way to protect my new commercial software.

2007-12-10 Thread kyosohma
On Dec 10, 6:17 am, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, are there any ways to make it "harder" to reverse engineer a > > program? > > In addition to the standby of > > -Don't distribute your program (SaaS) > > I'll add to the list: > > -Only distribute your program to people too non-techni

Text file handling in python

2007-12-10 Thread Noorhan Abbas
Hello, I am tring to access a text file in random acess way, that is, using f.tell() and f.seek() to seek a certain position in the text file. f.seek() does not seem to work properly, the file is opened in a read universal 'rU' mode. Thank you very much, Nora. ___

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Zentrader
Instead of linking records together via some key, I first try out a dictionary of lists. The list for each dictionary key would be the same as a list with a single, forward link. If you have relatively few records per key, it works well. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread Achim Domma
On 10 Dez., 15:24, "Méta-MCI \(MVP\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > > no idea how it works with windows. > > On XP: fine. > On Vista: very difficult... > > @+ > > MCI Also with Python 2.5? If PyOpenGL would work with Python 2.5, I could use wx too. But I could not get it to work with 2.5 o

Re: GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Achim Domma wrote: > On 10 Dez., 15:24, "Méta-MCI \(MVP\)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> > no idea how it works with windows. >> >> On XP: fine. >> On Vista: very difficult... >> >> @+ >> >> MCI > > Also with Python 2.5? If PyOpenGL would work with Python 2.5, I could > use wx too. B

Re: Newbie edit/compile/run cycle question

2007-12-10 Thread MartinRinehart
Bruno, Please explain why the NOP import is a GoodThing. Use small words please. I'm not as young as I used to be. I didn't know about reload(), but now that I'm informed on that point I'm still using os.remove('foo.pyc') reload(foo) A single command to do that would be nice. Martin Bruno Des

array.shape() gives TypeError: 'tuple' object is not callable

2007-12-10 Thread Charles Fox
Hi gys -- I am looking at Numpy but getting this error when I try to get array sizes. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy with standard repositories and scipy. Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong or is it my install of scipy? $ python Python 2.4.4c1 (#2, Oct 11 2006, 21:51:02) [GCC 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelea

Re: Newbie edit/compile/run cycle question

2007-12-10 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bruno, > > Please explain why the NOP import is a GoodThing. Use small words > please. I'm not as young as I used to be. Because otherwise every import would result in overhead without any benefit. Think of a module like this: A_GLOBAL_VARIABLE = extremely_

Re: array.shape() gives TypeError: 'tuple' object is not callable

2007-12-10 Thread Chris
On Dec 10, 5:22 pm, Charles Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi gys -- I am looking at Numpy but getting this error when I try to > get array sizes. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy with standard repositories and > scipy. Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong or is it my install of > scipy? > > $ python >

Re: Best way to merge/sort two sorted lists?...

2007-12-10 Thread Aaron Watters
On Dec 6, 2:01 pm, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 6, 9:30 am, Aaron Watters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > See recipes: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/491285 http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/305269 I previously noted in that I

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Duncan Booth
Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python's iterators are unsuitable for mutating the linked list > while iterating--the only major application of linked lists. > Wrapping in a generator won't allow you to use for loop syntax, > unless I'm missing something, which has often happened. It is

Re: Fill In a Form Automatically

2007-12-10 Thread Victor Subervi
Thanks! Mechanize looks really cool :)) Victor On Dec 7, 2007 4:11 PM, Ismail Dönmez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friday 07 December 2007 22:06:23 tarihinde Victor Subervi şunları > yazmıştı: > > Hi; > > I'm trying to fill in a Zope form automatically. I have this script, > which > > works great

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 8:31 am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-10, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I'm not mistaken, building a reverse dictionary like that will be > > O(n*m) because dict/list access is O(n) (ammortized). Somebody correct > > me if I'm wrong. In that case,

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 8:31 am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-12-10, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I'm not mistaken, building a reverse dictionary like that will be > > O(n*m) because dict/list access is O(n) (ammortized). Somebody correct > > me if I'm wrong. In that case,

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-12-10, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Python's iterators are unsuitable for mutating the linked list >> while iterating--the only major application of linked lists. >> Wrapping in a generator won't allow you to use for loop >> syntax, un

Re: searching a value of a dict (each value is a list)

2007-12-10 Thread MonkeeSage
On Dec 10, 9:45 am, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 8:31 am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 2007-12-10, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If I'm not mistaken, building a reverse dictionary like that will be > > > O(n*m) because dict/list access i

Re: help with pyparsing

2007-12-10 Thread Prabhu Gurumurthy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul McGuire wrote: > On Dec 9, 11:01 pm, Prabhu Gurumurthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> All, >> >> I have the following lines that I would like to parse in python using >> pyparsing, but have som

Re: Error when executing the library reference echo server example

2007-12-10 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:38:57 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > >I tried it in Linux and it worked fine so I've been trying different >things as the code seems to be correct. >Finally, I've found that if both server and client are run from IDLE, >the thing crashes with the mentioned e

Re: a Python person's experience with Ruby

2007-12-10 Thread Chris Mellon
On Dec 9, 2007 5:11 AM, Arnaud Delobelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 9, 12:15 am, Bruno Desthuilliers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard Jones a écrit : > > > > > > > > > Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > > > > >>class A(object): > > >> @apply > > >> def a(): > > >> def fget(self):

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Ant
On Dec 9, 10:54 pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 9:43 am, "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm looking for a linked list implementation. Something iterable with > > constant time insertion anywhere in the list. > > It's on

Dumb newbie back in shell

2007-12-10 Thread MartinRinehart
OK, it's a scripting language. >>> def g(): ...os.remove('tokeneizer.pyc') ...reload( tokeneizer ) ...tokeneizer.tokenize('sample_decaf.d') ... >>> But that gets me to: ... line 110, in get_toks UnboundLocalError: local variable 'line_ptr' referenced before assignment Here's a bit o

Re: Is a "real" C-Python possible?

2007-12-10 Thread Raymond Hettinger
On Dec 9, 1:14 pm, "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if it's possible to have a Python that's completely (or at > least for the most part) implemented in C, just like PHP - I think > this is where PHP gets its performance advantage. Or maybe I'm wrong > because the core modules that matt

SOAPpy server shutting down?

2007-12-10 Thread sberry
I have a soap server I am running on an OS X Server using SOAPpy. To start the server I am running server = SOAPpy.SOAPServer(('IPADDRESS", PORT), namespace=NAMESPACE) server.serve_forever() I am starting the server manually in the background by running from the command line as follows: ./mySOAPS

Re: detecting disc serial number without win32

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Otten
PiErre wrote: > I have to run a python script on a Linux machine. This script was > developed on a windows workstation and it > uses the win32 library to detect the cd (or dvd) serial number (in the > - format). > How can I change the script to do the same task on linux? > I found an old

Re: I'm missing something here with range vs. xrange

2007-12-10 Thread Chris Mellon
On Dec 7, 2007 8:58 PM, Joe Goldthwaite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >You can't imagine why someone might prefer an iterative solution over > >a greedy one? Depending on the conditions, the cost of creating the > >list can be a greater or a lesser part of the total time spent. Actual > >iteration i

Re: GUI development with 3D view

2007-12-10 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: ... > I was under the impression that PyOpenGL is ctypes-based in the new > versions? > It is, but I haven't had the time to do a new release and check it on a Windows box. There are minor fixes in CVS that *should* IIRC make us run better on those Windows machines that

Re: Dumb newbie back in shell

2007-12-10 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:31:01 -0800, MartinRinehart wrote: > But that gets me to: > > ... line 110, in get_toks > UnboundLocalError: local variable 'line_ptr' referenced before > assignment > > Here's a bit of the code, with line #s > > ... > 68 global line_ptr > 69 global char_ptr > ... > 75 li

Re: Dumb newbie back in shell

2007-12-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > OK, it's a scripting language. For which definition of "scripting language" ?-) def g(): > ...os.remove('tokeneizer.pyc') > ...reload( tokeneizer ) > ...tokeneizer.tokenize('sample_decaf.d') > ... > > But that gets me to: > > ... line 110, in get_t

Re: Are Python deques linked lists?

2007-12-10 Thread Peter Otten
Neil Cerutti wrote: > On 2007-12-10, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> def test(): >> ll = LinkedList([random.randint(1,1000) for i in range(10)]) >> >> for el in ll: >> if el.value%2==0: >> ll.delete(el) >> >> print [el.value for el in ll] >> >> >> if __n

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