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Mike Driscoll wrote:
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This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try to
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On 15 abr, 13:58, Michael Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After parsing this thread through a noise filter, it appears the main
concern is not the converting of _python code_ from 2 to 3, but rather
converting extensions written in C, or when python is embedded in a C
program. The APIs have
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Carl Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 11, 12:08 pm, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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they're not stuck with a quasi hack of a language if they have to do
something that doesn't fit the framework anticipated by the language
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I wrote the code below to create simple arithmetic sequences that are
iter-able
I.e., this would basically combine the NUMPY arange(start,end,step)
to range(start,end), with step not necessarily an integer.
The code below is in its simplest form and I want to generalize the
sequence types
Jumping Arne wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:21:13 +0200, Jumping Arne wrote
(in article [EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I'm going to try to write some imange manipulation code (scaling, reading
EXIF and IPTC info) and just want to ask if PIL is *THE* library to use?
I looked at
Until recently almost all my python programs were held 1 file for 1
program. This had grown unwieldy for one of my projects, so i decided
to refactor it, and ended up with something like this:
---
import wx
import options
import gui
import scf
class MainWindow(wx.Frame):
def
Mike Driscoll wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:09 am, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Driscoll wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try to
not tar both the benign google group users and the malignant
ones
On Apr 16, 11:15 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16 abr, 09:56, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my opinion python's adherence to backwards compatibility
has been a bit mythological anyway -- many new python versions
have broken my old code for no good reason.
This is the code that is causing memory leak in 64 bit python [but not
in 32 bit python].. is something wrong in the code?
now = datetime.datetime.now()
oneday = datetime.timedelta(days=1)
def birthdaycompare(a, b):
if a is None and b:
return 1
if a and b is None:
return -1
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try to
not tar both the benign google group users and the malignant
ones with the same brush, I've been trying to kill usenet spam
with subject patterns. But that's
Mike Driscoll wrote:
Steve,
My workplace doesn't offer NNTP, so there is no good way to browse
c.l.py here. And I haven't been able to get NNTP to work from my home
either.
I rarely use NNTP these days. I access c.l.py exclusively via e-mail,
and that works very well. In some cases there
On Apr 16, 10:47 am, Iain King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Until recently almost all my python programs were held 1 file for 1
program. This had grown unwieldy for one of my projects, so i decided
to refactor it, and ended up with something like this:
---
import wx
import options
import
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe there is a secret desire in the Python
community to remain a fringe minority underdog
forever?
I'm sure anyone who has given it any thought understands that
the fringe minority situation is a lot more fun in some
can anyone tell me hw to start with webapplication scripting(e.g login
page..etc)
if anyone has soln for this or simple e.g that mention above please send me
There are many choices, too many actually. Good entry points are:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebApplications
Hallöchen!
Michael Torrie writes:
[...]
This official python list is one of the few lists that's even
still on nntp. All my other ones (gnome, gtk, openldap, clamav,
freeradius, etc) are all e-mail mailing lists only and it works
very well. In fact, I think it's much better since list
I had posted this before but all the spam whipped it out...
I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
value of another method of the same class. For example:
class A:
def __init__(self):
On Apr 16, 6:56 am, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't get it. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
So how would you have done the old-style class to new-style class
transition?
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Torsten Bronger wrote:
The admistrative overhead of mailing lists is tedious. Fortunately,
most important computer-related lists are on gmane.org. We could
list c.l.py there, too. ;-)
Running a few lists myself, I don't see this. How is administrative
overhead tedious? Most open source
i use this code to profile. however for small standard functions it
just says 0 seconds.
so one solution is to run the function a very big number of times(how
big?).
but the bottom code doesnt work, it just runs the same profiling 1
times insetad of running the fucntion 10K
times and evaluate
On 2008-04-16, Michael Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My workplace doesn't offer NNTP, so there is no good way to browse
c.l.py here.
Browse it via the mailing list using gmane.org. There are no
ads and your postings won't get plonked by everybody.
And I haven't been able to get NNTP to
On Apr 16, 12:27 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:56 am, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't get it. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
So how would you have done the old-style class to new-style class
transition?
I'd ignore it. I never understood it and
Hi,
I am trying to dig through User-defined Exceptions (http://
docs.python.org/tut/node10.html chapter 8.5)
is it OK to add following line to the __init__ method of the
TransitionError class?
self.args = (self.previous, self.next, self.message)
If I do not add this argument to the
Recently I was trying to compile/install cx_Oracle on our Solaris
system.
When I ran python setup.py build I got the following message:
/usr/ucb/cc: language optional software package not installed
I Googled around and discovered that this is a frequently-encountered
issue on Solaris systems,
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:27 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:56 am, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't get it. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
So how would you have done the old-style
On Apr 16, 9:26 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had posted this before but all the spam whipped it out...
I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
value of another method of the same class. For
What can we do about all the spam that comp.lang.python is getting?
Things are getting pretty bad.
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Hallöchen!
Michael Torrie writes:
Torsten Bronger wrote:
The admistrative overhead of mailing lists is tedious.
Fortunately, most important computer-related lists are on
gmane.org. We could list c.l.py there, too. ;-)
Running a few lists myself, I don't see this. How is
administrative
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello guys girls
I'm pasting an en dash
(http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2013/index.htm) character into
a tkinter widget, expecting it to be properly stored into a MySQL database.
I'm getting this error:
Torsten Bronger wrote:
Hallöchen!
Michael Torrie writes:
[...]
This official python list is one of the few lists that's even
still on nntp. All my other ones (gnome, gtk, openldap, clamav,
freeradius, etc) are all e-mail mailing lists only and it works
very well. In fact, I think
Since you don't care about any of the changes or features, and you
don't care if your users care, I'm not sure why you aren't just using
python 2.1. It's not like it's being erased via time machine. Just
keep using the old thing is a perfectly valid and extremely common
futureproofing
On Apr 16, 12:35 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if __name__==__main__:
try:
from cProfile import run
except:
from profile import run
for x in range(1, 1):
run(power(10,10))
def test1():
for x in xrange(1,1):
test = power(10,10)
if
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My workplace doesn't offer NNTP, so there is no good way to browse
c.l.py here. And I haven't been able to get NNTP to work from my home
either.
Hi Mike;
I am half way to killing Google groups myself. Your
On Apr 16, 10:40 am, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:27 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:56 am, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't get it. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
So how would you have done the old-style class to new-style
On Apr 16, 8:31 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm new to Python and the notion of lambda, and I'm trying to write a
function that would have a varying number of nested for loops
depending on parameter n. This just smells like a job for lambda for
me, but I can't figure out how to
Hallöchen!
Steve Holden writes:
Torsten Bronger wrote:
[...]
The admistrative overhead of mailing lists is tedious.
Fortunately, most important computer-related lists are on
gmane.org. We could list c.l.py there, too. ;-)
c.l.py has been on gmane for years, as comp.python.general (why
On Apr 16, 12:01 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What can we do about all the spam that comp.lang.python is getting?
Things are getting pretty bad.
Buy Google and make them fix it.
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On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try to
not tar both the benign google group users and the malignant
ones with the same brush, I've been trying to kill usenet spam
with subject patterns. But that's not a battle
On Apr 16, 12:40 pm, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My workplace doesn't offer NNTP, so there is no good way to browse
c.l.py here. And I haven't been able to get NNTP to work from my home
either.
Following on from the success of previous sprint/bugfix weekends and
sprinting efforts at PyCon 2008, I'd like to propose the next two
Global Python Sprint Weekends take place on the following dates:
* May 10th-11th (four days after 2.6a3 and 3.0a5 are released)
*
On Apr 16, 11:06 am, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Driscoll wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:09 am, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Driscoll wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try to
not
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:11:09 -0700
Daniel Fetchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Full disclosure: I'm using google groups for both reading and writing.
You are? I guess I don't have my filter set correctly then. Can
someone please tell me what headers indicate that it is a Google groups
posting.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:39:16 -0600
Michael Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Running a few lists myself, I don't see this. How is administrative
overhead tedious? Most open source projects do it, so I wonder just how
tedious it is. Of all the projects I'm associated with in lists, Python
is
Hallöchen!
D'Arcy J.M. Cain writes:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:11:09 -0700
Daniel Fetchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Full disclosure: I'm using google groups for both reading and
writing.
You are?
Maybe, but not with this posting. It was sent through the mailing
list.
By the way, the
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:40 pm, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think I like the email list idea all that much. I'm already on
a number of them and they fill up my box like crazy. Besides that, in
email format
On Apr 16, 1:42 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only reason to not make the
changes is that old, crufty, unmaintained libraries applications
might depend on them somehow. If that's more important to you, what
you really want is a language who's specs are frozen - much like C
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 12:06 -0400, Steve Holden wrote:
Mike Driscoll wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:09 am, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike Driscoll wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try to
not tar
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 10:49 -0700, Mike Driscoll wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:40 pm, D'Arcy J.M. Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My workplace doesn't offer NNTP, so there is no good way to browse
c.l.py here. And I
On 2008-04-16, Mensanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try
to not tar both the benign google group users and the
malignant ones with the same brush, I've been trying to kill
usenet
On Apr 16, 11:06 am, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not saying people shouldn't use Google Groups. I'm saying that
Google can justify providing customer support that lives somewhere
between zero and extremely crappy by not charging for the service.
It's even worse than that. Click
On Apr 16, 12:10 pm, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 1:42 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only reason to not make the
changes is that old, crufty, unmaintained libraries applications
might depend on them somehow. If that's more important to you, what
Trent Nelson wrote:
Following on from the success of previous sprint/bugfix weekends and
sprinting efforts at PyCon 2008, I'd like to propose the next two
Global Python Sprint Weekends take place on the following dates:
* May 10th-11th (four days after 2.6a3 and 3.0a5 are
Prashant wrote:
I was wondering is there any way to do this:
I have written a class in python and __init__ goes like this:
def __init__(self):
self.name = 'jack'
self.age = 50
import data
now here there is data.py in the same directory and contents are like:
self.address
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2008-04-16, Mensanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try
to not tar both the benign google group users and the
malignant ones with the same brush, I've been
so I’m trying to create a class that inherits from str, but I want to
run some code on the value on object init. this is what I have:
class Path(str):
def __init__( self, path ):
clean = str(path).replace('\\','/')
while
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
value of another method of the same class. For example:
class A:
def __init__(self):
self.x = 1
def
En Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:36:14 -0300, Jonathan Shao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
*Gabriel Genellina* gagsl-py2 at yahoo.com.ar
python-list%40python.org?Subject=Interesting%20timing%20issue%20I%20noticedIn-Reply-To=
*Wed Apr 16 08:44:10 CEST 2008*
Another thing would be to rearrange the loops so
On Apr 16, 2:33 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is, you can't have it both ways. Either you evolve the
language and break things, or you keep it static and nothing breaks.
I disagree. You can add lots of cool
stuff without breaking the existing code base, mostly.
For
so I'm trying to create a class that inherits from str, but I want to
run some code on the value on object init. this is what I have:
class Path(str):
def __init__( self, path ):
clean = str(path).replace('\\','/')
while
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Gabriel Genellina
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
En Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:36:14 -0300, Jonathan Shao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
*Gabriel Genellina* gagsl-py2 at yahoo.com.ar
python-list%40python.org?Subject=Interesting%20timing%20issue%20I%20noticedIn-Reply-To=
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 13:47 -0500, Larry Bates wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
value of another method of the same class. For example:
class A:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Hamish McKenzie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so I'm trying to create a class that inherits from str, but I want to run
some code on the value on object init. this is what I have:
You actually want to run your code when creating the new object, not
when initializing
En Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:09:05 -0300, Aaron Watters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
On Apr 16, 11:15 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16 abr, 09:56, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my opinion python's adherence to backwards compatibility
has been a bit mythological
I have a thread that I've created from a main program. I started this thread
and passed it a function to execute. Within this function are 'print'
statements. While they are directly translated to the stdout, I would love to
return them back to the program itself and store them in an object.
Cliff Wells wrote:
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 13:47 -0500, Larry Bates wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
value of another method of the same class. For
Also in the case of C/java etc changing the infrastructure
is less scary because you usually find out about problems
when the compile or link fails. For Python you may not find
out about it until the program has been run many times.
Perhaps this will inspire improved linters and better
On Apr 16, 2:52 pm, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I disagree. You can add lots of cool
stuff without breaking the existing code base, mostly.
For example the minor changes to the way ints will work will
effect almost no programs.
Wow, I'd venture that the division changes with
On Apr 16, 12:52 pm, Aaron Watters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2:33 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is, you can't have it both ways. Either you evolve the
language and break things, or you keep it static and nothing breaks.
I disagree. You can add lots of
Or some other pre-packaged parser tool?
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In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mensanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 12:01 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What can we do about all the spam that comp.lang.python is getting?
Things are getting pretty bad.
Buy Google and make them fix it.
I've had pretty good luck with
Robert wrote:
Or some other pre-packaged parser tool?
None of them: it's not YACC, not a pre-packaged parser tool, and not
a home-made parser. Instead, it uses pgen, a parser tool that is
included in the Python distribution (whether *that* was made at
home or at work, I don't know :-).
Regards,
On Apr 16, 1:43 pm, Severian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2008-04-16, Mensanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning almost half of c.l.p was spam. In order to try
to not tar both the benign google group
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanted to know if there's any way to create a method that takes a
default parameter, and that parameter's default value is the return
value of another method of the same class. For example:
...
def meth2(self, arg=meth1()):
Not good. If the default
the 0.409 vs 0.095 is the total times right?
so the imperative function is 4 times faster than the recursive.
or what does tottime stand for?
is this always the case that the recursive function is slower?
the gain is less code?
are some functions only implementable recursively?
def power(nbr,
how do i solve power(5,1.3)?
def power(nbr, po):
if po==0:
return 1
if po0:
return nbr*power(nbr, po-1)
if po0:
return 1/power(nbr, -1*po)
also i found a link which states 0^0 isnt 1 even though every
calculator ive tried says it is.
it doesnt say what it is
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think I like the email list idea all that much. I'm already on
a number of them and they fill up my box like crazy. Besides that, in
email format it's hard to follow the thread, so one moment I'm reading
about
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:18:22 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the 0.409 vs 0.095 is the total times right?
so the imperative function is 4 times faster than the recursive.
or what does tottime stand for?
is this always the case that the recursive function is slower?
the gain is less code?
On Apr 16, 4:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how do i solve power(5,1.3)?
[...]
also i found a link which states 0^0 isnt 1 even though every
calculator ive tried says it is.
it doesnt say what it is but i presume 0 then.
but it seems the dude is wrong and it is 1?
5**1.3
On Apr 16, 1:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so I’m trying to create a class that inherits from str, but I want to
run some code on the value on object init. this is what I have:
class Path(str):
def __init__( self, path ):
clean =
On Apr 16, 3:27 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any function can be implemented without recursion, although it isn't
always easy or fun.
Jean-Paul
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work. Could give an example? Say, for example, the typical:
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Aaron Watters wrote:
On Apr 16, 2:33 pm, Rhamphoryncus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is, you can't have it both ways. Either you evolve the
language and break things, or you keep it static and nothing breaks.
I disagree. You can add lots of cool
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:32:00 -0700, Aaron Watters wrote:
Perhaps this will inspire improved linters and better coding
practices
Better coding practices such as extensive unit tests?
Greetings from Earth. What planet are you from? :)
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