When the last Easter egg is eaten and the last chocolate Easter bunny
nibbled to to bits, Pythonistas start looking for intellectual
nourishment again. Luckily, the April meeting of pyCologne, the Python
User Group Köln, is coming right up:
When: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:30pm
Where:
Dubslow buns...@gmail.com wrote:
It's just a short test script written in python, so I have no idea how to
even control the buffering (and even if I did, I still can't modify the
subprocess I need to use in my script). What confuses me then is why Perl
is able to get around this just fine
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:21:51 -0700, Dubslow wrote:
It's just a short test script written in python, so I have no idea how
to even control the buffering
In Python, you can set the buffering when opening a file via the third
argument to the open() function, but you can't change a stream's
On Apr 7, 1:52 am, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Sounds like this library is documented the same way most third party
libraries are: as an afterthought, by somebody who is so familiar with
the software that he cannot imagine why anyone might actually need
Hi,
I'm currently writing a multiprocess applications with Python 3.2 and
multiprocessing module. My subprocesses will use a QueueHandler to log
messages (by sending them to the main process, which uses a QueueListener).
However, if logging is already configured when I create the subprocesses,
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On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Nobody nob...@nowhere.com wrote:
The delimiter can be chosen either by analysing the string
or by choosing something a string at random and relying upon a collision
being statistically improbable.
The same techniques being available to MIME multi-part encoders,
This proposal was suggested in 2001 and is only now being implemented. Why the
extended delay?
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On Apr 7, 2012, at 3:32 AM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote:
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hi,
please, what am i doing wrong here? the docs say
http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.3/library/stdtypes.html#comparisons in
general, __lt__() and __eq__() are sufficient, if you want the conventional
meanings of the comparison operators but i am seeing
assert 2 three
E
Le 07/04/2012 11:22, Thibaut DIRLIK a écrit :
Hi,
I'm currently writing a multiprocess applications with Python 3.2 and
multiprocessing module. My subprocesses will use a QueueHandler to log
messages (by sending them to the main process, which uses a
QueueListener). However, if logging is
Thanks in advance for any insights!
My partner and I have developed an application primarily intended for internal
use within our company. However, we face the need to expose the app to
certain non-employees.
We would like to do so without exposing our source code.
Our targets include users
Am 07.04.2012 14:23 schrieb andrew cooke:
class IntVar(object):
def __init__(self, value=None):
if value is not None: value = int(value)
self.value = value
def setter(self):
def wrapper(stream_in, thunk):
self.value = thunk()
On 4/7/2012 8:07 AM, Bill Felton wrote:
We are using Python 3.2 and tkinter. It appears, and limited testing bears
out, that py2app, and presumably py2exe, are not options given lack of 3.x
support.
cx_Freeze supports Python 3.2. It works fine for my purposes, but I have
not done any serious
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
import codecs
codecs.getdecoder('unicode_escape')(s)[0]
'Hello: this is a test'
Cheers,
Ian
Thanks, Ian. I had assumed that if a unicode string didn't have a
.decode method, then I couldn't use a decoder on it, so it
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andrew cooke wrote in
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gmane.comp.python.general:
hi,
please, what am i doing wrong here? the docs say
http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.3/library/stdtypes.html#comparisons
in general, __lt__() and __eq__() are
I'm about to write my first module and I don't know how I should handle
multithreading/-processing.
I'm not doing multi-threading inside my module. I'm just trying to make
it thread-safe so that users *can* do multi-threading.
For instance, let's say I want to make this code thread-safe:
---
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
andrew cooke and...@acooke.org wrote:
hi,
please, what am i doing wrong here? the docs say
http://docs.python.org/release/3.1.3/library/stdtypes.html#comparisons in
general, __lt__() and __eq__() are sufficient, if you want the conventional
Thomas Rachel wrote:
Am 07.04.2012 14:23 schrieb andrew cooke:
class IntVar(object):
def __init__(self, value=None):
if value is not None: value = int(value)
self.value = value
def setter(self):
def wrapper(stream_in, thunk):
Thibaut merwin.irc at gmail.com writes:
Ok, I understand what happenned. In fact, configuring the logging before
forking works fine. Subprocess inherits the configuration, as I thought.
The problem was that I didn't passed any handler to the QueueListener
constructor. The when the
Le 07/04/2012 16:47, Vinay Sajip a écrit :
Thibautmerwin.ircat gmail.com writes:
Ok, I understand what happenned. In fact, configuring the logging before
forking works fine. Subprocess inherits the configuration, as I thought.
The problem was that I didn't passed any handler to the
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Thibaut merwin.irc at gmail.com writes:
This is exactly what I wanted, it seems perfect. However I still have a
question, from what I understood,
I have to configure logging AFTER creating the process, to avoid
children process to inherits the logging config.
Unless there is a way to
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Nicholas Cole nicholas.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
import codecs
codecs.getdecoder('unicode_escape')(s)[0]
'Hello: this is a test'
Cheers,
Ian
Thanks, Ian. I had assumed that if a unicode
On 4/7/2012 7:20 AM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
This proposal was suggested in 2001 and is only now being
implemented. Why the extended delay?
It was implemented in revised form 3 years ago in 3.0.
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I guess I didn't understand what's really going on. I thought if I SSH
even from a Linux to a Windows machine whatever I say on the SSH
client command line would be the same as me doing a command on the
DOS command-line in Windows. I incorrectly thought SSH is just a
On 4/7/2012 11:59 AM, goldtech wrote:
I thought if I SSH
even from a Linux to a Windows machine whatever I say on the SSH
client command line would be the same as me doing a command on the
DOS command-line in Windows. I incorrectly thought SSH is just a
tunnel for text...
It gives you
On 4/7/2012 9:07 AM, Bill Felton wrote:
Thanks in advance for any insights!
My partner and I have developed an application primarily
intended for internal use within our company. However, we face the
need to expose the app to certain non-employees.
We would like to do so without exposing
Is there any kind of API documentation for asyncmongo? On GITHub they
say asyncmongo syntax strives to be similar to pymongo
http://api.mongodb.org/python/current/api/pymongo/collection.html..
However, many basic things do not work or they are not similar.
Any reason you can't derive from int instead of object? You may also want to
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Kiuhnm wrote:
I'm about to write my first module and I don't know how I should handle
multithreading/-processing.
I'm not doing multi-threading inside my module. I'm just trying to make
it thread-safe so that users *can* do multi-threading.
There are a couple conventions to follow. Trying to
On Apr 7, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 4/7/2012 9:07 AM, Bill Felton wrote:
Thanks in advance for any insights!
My partner and I have developed an application primarily
intended for internal use within our company. However, we face the
need to expose the app to certain
On 4/7/2012 22:09, Bryan wrote:
For instance, let's say I want to make this code thread-safe:
---
myDict = {}
def f(name, val):
if name not in myDict:
myDict[name] = val
return myDict[name]
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First, don't re-code Python's built-ins. The example is a job for
On Apr 7, 5:06 pm, Kiuhnm kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it wrote:
On 4/7/2012 22:09, Bryan wrote: For instance, let's say I want to make this
code thread-safe:
---
myDict = {}
def f(name, val):
if name not in myDict:
myDict[name] = val
return myDict[name]
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First,
Hi there,
I would like to be able to pass a list of variables to a procedure, and have
the output assigned to them.
For instance:
x=0
y=0
z=0
vars =[x,y,z]
parameters=[1,2,3]
for i in range(1,len(vars)):
*** somefunction that takes the parameter 1, does a computation and assigns
the output
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM, KRB alaga...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there,
I would like to be able to pass a list of variables to a procedure, and have
the output assigned to them.
You cannot pass a variable itself to a function; you can only pass a
variable's value. Which is to say that Python
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:15:09 -0700, KRB wrote:
I would like to be able to pass a list of variables to a procedure, and
have the output assigned to them.
Use a dictionary or an object.
If the variables are globals (i.e. attributes of the current module), you
can pass the result of globals()
I am just playing around with threading and subprocess and found that
the following program will hang up and never terminate every now and
again.
import threading
import subprocess
import time
def targ():
p = subprocess.Popen([/bin/sleep, 2])
while p.poll() is None:
Thank you, Chris!
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On Apr 7, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM, KRB alaga...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there,
I would like to be able to pass a list of variables to a procedure, and have
the output assigned to them.
You
Thibaut merwin.irc at gmail.com writes:
This is exactly what I wanted, it seems perfect. However I still have a
question, from what I understood,
I have to configure logging AFTER creating the process, to avoid
children process to inherits the logging config.
Unless there is a way to
I have it in 2.7.3
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 4/7/2012 7:20 AM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
This proposal was suggested in 2001 and is only now being
implemented. Why the extended delay?
It was implemented in revised form 3 years ago in 3.0.
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Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
There's absolutely no reason why JSON should follow Python syntax rules.
No, but there certainly is a justification for expecting JAVASCRIPT Object
Notation (which is, after all, what JSON stands for) to follow Javascript's
syntax rules. And Javascript happens
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote:
No, but there certainly is a justification for expecting JAVASCRIPT Object
Notation (which is, after all, what JSON stands for) to follow Javascript's
syntax rules. And Javascript happens to follow the same quoting rules as
On 4/4/2012 3:34 PM, Miki Tebeka wrote:
Greetings,
I'm going to give a Python Gotcha's talk at work.
If you have an interesting/common Gotcha (warts/dark corners ...) please
share.
(Note that I want over http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWarts already).
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On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:01 PM, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote:
4. The syntax for expression-IF is just weird.
Agreed. Putting an expression first feels weird; in every high level
language I know of, the word if is followed by the condition, and
then by what to do if true, and then what to
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed. Putting an expression first feels weird; in every high level
language I know of, the word if is followed by the condition, and
then by what to do if true, and then what to do if false - not true,
then condition,
Kiuhnm wrote:
My question is this: can I use 'threading' without interfering with the
program which will import my module?
Yes. The things to avoid are described at the bottom of:
http://docs.python.org/library/threading.html
On platforms without threads, 'import threading' will fail. There's
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
I'm still unclear about the rationale for this change. krisvale says in the
patch and in msg109099 that this is to determine whether an object can be
collected at this time. Is the intended usage that the result value may
change over the
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
I recommend that __hash__ should use functools.lru_cache for caching.
Why would you do such a thing? A hash value is a single 64-bit slot, no need to
add the memory consumption of a whole dictionary and the runtime cost of a LRU
eviction
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Any other comments?
No, the patch looks ok now. Please watch the buildbots after you commit.
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Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com added the comment:
Jim: The edge case of collecting an object that is alone in a cycle is
something that isn't handled. I'm also not sure that it is worth doing or even
safe or possible. but that is beside the point and not the topic of this
Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com added the comment:
Btw. tangentially related to this discussion, issue 10576 aims to make the
situation with uncollectable objects a little more bearable. An application
can listen for garbage collection, visit gc.garbage and deal with its
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
err, is it possible to edit out those file paths?
I don't know how to do that. If you want I can remove the message altogether.
But I don't see anything confidential or exploitable in your message.
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Jerzy's latest patch looks ok to me.
This is a slight behaviour change so I'm not sure it should go in 3.2/2.7.
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New submission from Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:
I'm not sure __sizeof__ is implemented correctly:
from decimal import Decimal
import sys
d = Decimal(123456789123456798123456789123456798123456789123456798)
d
Decimal('123456789123456798123456789123456798123456789123456798')
Senthil Kumaran sent...@uthcode.com added the comment:
Hi David,
I am sorry, I did not notice your second comment in this bug and later when you
closed this, noticed the bug report.
Yes, the default=None but actually pointing to a sentinel value is an odd duck
and I believe the explanation
Roundup Robot devn...@psf.upfronthosting.co.za added the comment:
New changeset 51b4bddd0e92 by Kristján Valur Jónsson in branch 'default':
Issue #14310: inter-process socket duplication for windows
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/51b4bddd0e92
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Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:
It isn't implemented at all. The Python version also always returns 96,
irrespective of the coefficient length. Well, arguably the coefficient
is a separate object in the Python version:
96
sys.getsizeof(d._int)
212
For the C version
Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:
In full:
d =
Decimal(1)
sys.getsizeof(d)
96
Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com added the comment:
I recommend that __hash__ should use functools.lru_cache for caching.
Why would you do such a thing? A hash value is a single 64-bit slot, no need
to add the memory consumption of a whole dictionary and the runtime cost of a
LRU
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
I recommend that __hash__ should use functools.lru_cache for caching.
Why would you do such a thing? A hash value is a single 64-bit slot, no
need to add the memory consumption of a whole dictionary and the runtime
cost of a LRU
Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com added the comment:
Here is an updated patch, taking Jim's and Antoine's comments into account.
Jim, I´d like to comment that I think the reason __del__ objects are
uncollectable is more subtle than there being no defined order of calling the
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Uploaded another review.
I also notice you didn't really address my point, since self.visit is still
initialized too early. IMO it should be initialized after the first
gc.collect() at the beginning of each test (not in setUp()).
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Brian Curtin br...@python.org added the comment:
Attached is issue3561.diff which adds a path option, off by default, as a
feature to be installed. I've tested installation and un-installation with the
feature both installed and not installed and it seems to work fine for me.
sbt shibt...@gmail.com added the comment:
Jimbofbx wrote:
def main():
from multiprocessing import Pipe, reduction
i, o = Pipe()
print(i);
reduced = reduction.reduce_connection(i)
print(reduced);
newi = reduced[0](*reduced[1])
print(newi);
newi.send(hi)
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Having said all that I agree multiprocessing.reduction should be
fixed. Maybe an enable_pickling_support() function could be added to
register the necessary things with copyreg.
Why not simply use ForkingPickler?
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New changeset 7f123dec2731 by Georg Brandl in branch '3.2':
Closes #14511: fix wrong opensearch link for 3.2 docs.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/7f123dec2731
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sbt shibt...@gmail.com added the comment:
ForkingPickler is only used when creating a child process. The
multiprocessing.reduction module is only really intended for sending stuff to
*pre-existing* processes.
As things stand, after importing multiprocessing.reduction you can do something
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
ForkingPickler is only used when creating a child process. The
multiprocessing.reduction module is only really intended for sending
stuff to *pre-existing* processes.
But ForkingPickler could be used in multiprocessing.connection, couldn't
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Le samedi 07 avril 2012 à 17:22 +, Raymond Hettinger a écrit :
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I think patching the C version of Decimal would be more useful :)
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On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 16:05, Antoine Pitrou rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
OK, -v/PYTHONVERBOSE is as done as it is going to be by me. Next up is
(attempting) Windows registry stuff. After
James Hutchison jamesghutchi...@gmail.com added the comment:
@pitrou
You can just delete my original post. I'll repost an edited version here for
reference
original post with paths removed:
This is an issue for me (Python 3.2). I have a custom pool that sends arguments
for a function call
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uuids = set()
for u in [uuid.uuid4() for i in range(1000)]:
uuids.add(u)
uuids = {uuid.uuid4() for i in range(1000)}
However, I'm not sure of the legitimacy of replacement suitable for
cryptographic
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But ForkingPickler could be used in multiprocessing.connection,
couldn't it?
I suppose so.
Note that the way a connection handle is transferred between existing processes
is unnecessarily inefficient on Windows. A background server thread (one per
New submission from mattip matti.pi...@gmail.com:
Python 2.7.2 (default, Jun 12 2011, 15:08:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on
win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import math
math.copysign(1., float('inf'))
1.0
math.copysign(1., float('-inf'))
-1.0
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In multiprocessing.connection on Windows, socket handles are indirectly
duplicated using DuplicateHandle() instead the WSADuplicateSocket(). According
to Microsoft's documentation this is not supported.
This is easily avoided by using
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
This is a near duplicate of issue7281. Most likely, copysign is behaving
correctly, and it's already the float conversion that errs.
For struct.pack('d', float('nan')), I get '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\xf8\xff';
for -nan, I get
sbt shibt...@gmail.com added the comment:
There is a simpler way to do this on Windows. The sending process
duplicates the handle, and the receiving process duplicates that second
handle using DuplicateHandle() and the DUPLICATE_CLOSE_SOURCE flag. That
way no server thread is necessary
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sbt shibt...@gmail.com added the comment:
What is the bug that this fixes? Can you provide a test case?
The bug is using an API in a way that the documentation says is
wrong/unreliable. There does not seem to be a classification for that.
I have never seen a problem caused by using
Changes by Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com:
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nosy: +storchaka
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http://bugs.python.org/issue10614
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