You can "Plonk" my dick bitches.
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> You can "Plonk" my dick bitches.
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> David Hutto
> CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:35:39 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
> Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has been transformed
> into an "American" product for "American" users.
For the first time in Python's history, Python on 32-bit systems handles
strings containing Supplementary Multilingual Pl
wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
been transformed into an "American" product for
"American" users.
*plonk*
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
>> been transformed into an "American" product for
>> "American" users.
>
>
Well, we can all use american as a standard, or maybe you'd prefer to
borrow my La
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
>> wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
>>> been transformed into an "American" product for
>>> "American" users.
>>
> Well, we can all use
I only know the dollar sign ($) will match a pattern from the
end of a string,but which method does it work with ,re.match() or re.search() ？
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iMath writes:
> I only know the dollar sign ($) will match a pattern from the end of
> a string, but which method does it work with, re.match() or
> re.search()
It works with both. With re.match, the pattern has to match at the
start of the string _and_ the $ has to match the end of the string (o
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
wrote:
> What was the weird character that you used as a question mark? I
> removed them because they confuse the newsreader I use.
It appears to be Unicode Character 'FULLWIDTH QUESTION MARK' (U+FF1F).
Normally I'd be inclined to simply use U+00
>> Well, we can all use american as a standard, or maybe you'd prefer to
>> borrow my Latin for Idiots handbook. But then again google has a
>> Universal Communicator going, so, does it matter?
>
> Never in the field of human discussion has there been so much reason
> for so many to plonk so few.
>
On 9/26/2012 2:35 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
been transformed into an "American" product for
"American" users.
Python 3.3 is the first version that handles the full unicode character
set correctly on all platforms. If anything, it will m
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Demian Brecht wrote:
>>
>> If you are writing a desktop application, read this:
>> https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/OAuth2#clientside
>
>
> You mean https://developers.google.com/accounts/docs/OAuth2#installed? Your
> link discusses client side browser
Hi, all,
It is kind of a MacGyver question. I am just looking for some general
suggestions/pointer.
First let me first describe the development environment I am in: it is a locked
down WinXP PC with limited development tools and libraries. At my disposal I
have python 2.6 , webkit 5.33 dll, wx
On 26/09/2012 05:10, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
SQL? ... it's time to sell your shares in Oracle.
Ehh, I wouldn't be investing in Oracle, but that's more because I
think free RDBMSes like PostgreSQL outshine it. And this is even more
true of
On 26/09/2012 07:35, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
been transformed into an "American" product for
"American" users.
jmf
Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to
pieces? Don't you know when it's time to make sur
iMath wrote:
> I only know the dollar sign ($) will match a pattern from the
> end of a string,but which method does it work with ,re.match() or
> re.search() ？
Why not try it out in the interactive interpreter? Here's the "deluxe
version":
>>> def demo(pattern="mid$", texts=["start mid end",
On 26/09/2012 08:44, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
been transformed into an "American" product for
"American" user
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> Further for somebody who is apparently up in the high tech world, why are
> you using a gmail account and hence sending garbage in more ways than one to
> mailing lists like this?
I use gmail too, largely because I prefer to keep mailing lis
>
> Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to
> pieces?
I still feel intact, so whatever little shards of pain you intended to
emit were lost on my ego.
Don't you know when it's time to make sure that you're safely
> strapped in and reach for and use the release bu
> I tried to make a play on that some days ago and failed dismally.
That's the fucking understatement of the year.
Thanks for
> putting me out of my misery :)
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Hi,
I'm still experiencing the pleasure of migrating legacy code from Python
2.6. to 2.7 which I expected to be much less painful.
(In fact migration on Linux is rather smooth, but Windows is another story)
Let's take the simple command
import mimetypes
print mimetypes.guess_type('a.jpg')
On 26/09/2012 09:47, Dwight Hutto wrote:
I tried to make a play on that some days ago and failed dismally.
That's the fucking understatement of the year.
You remind me of the opening to the song Plaistow Patricia by Ian Dury
and the Blockheads.
Thanks for
putting me out of my misery :)
On 9/25/12 3:21 PM, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote:
Tarek,
With all respect, running benchmark on something that has sleeps, etc is pretty
far from real world use case. So I went a little bit different way.
That's not a good summary of what the function does. It does not just
sleep. It does some I/O
>> That's the fucking understatement of the year.
>>
>
> You remind me of the opening to the song Plaistow Patricia by Ian Dury and
> the Blockheads.
Make a modern day/mainstream reference, and maybe someone will get it.
>
>
>> Thanks for
>>>
>>> putting me out of my misery :)
Again, no proble
Tarek,
Thank you for the response back. Yes, your idea is pretty clear to me. The
point is that higher workload you put in your application business logic,
repository, backend, whatever... less you will see in final results comparison.
This is obvious and we, as technical people, very well und
On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:05:01 UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:26:19 -0400, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 9/25/12 4:15 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
> >> Hi all,
>
> >>
>
> >> I though this might be of interest.
>
> >>
>
> >> http://www.ironfroggy.com/soft
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 09:23:47 UTC+2, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:35:39 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
>
>
>
> > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has been transformed
>
> > into an "American" product for "American" users.
>
>
>
Steven,
you are correct.
>>
>> they are written in themselves, using some clever bootstrapping
>>
>> techniques. C is neither the most powerful, the oldest, the best, or the
>>
>> most fundamental language around.
Would you recommend Assembly, because C just becomea macros of
Assembly, or better yet machine language, which
On 9/26/12 11:26 AM, Andriy Kornatskyy wrote:
Tarek,
Thank you for the response back. Yes, your idea is pretty clear to me. The
point is that higher workload you put in your application business logic,
repository, backend, whatever... less you will see in final results comparison.
This is obv
to Andriy
You can use a framework, however, the function from the framework has
to be used, and the parameters utilized by the frameworks functions.
It would seem that writing your own witin the main page, or using the
original function in place from the framework would run a timeit
better.
I'll
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:31 PM, wrote:
> you are correct. But the price you pay for this is extremely
> high. Now, practically all characters are affected, espacially
> those *in* the Basic *** Multilingual*** Plane, these characters
> used by non "American" user (No offense here, I just use thi
On 09/26/2012 10:32 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 26/09/2012 05:10, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
SQL? ... it's time to sell your shares in Oracle.
Ehh, I wouldn't be investing in Oracle, but that's more because I
think free RDBMSes like Postgre
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Anthony Kong wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> It is kind of a MacGyver question. I am just looking for some general
> suggestions/pointer.
>
> First let me first describe the development environment I am in: it is a
> locked down WinXP PC with limited development tools and
David / Tarek,
I believe you and Tarek are pointing the same things. If we want to get that
far, we need, first of all, itemize the functions list and find their
correspondences in other frameworks... or provide some script of potential
calls to framework internal and translate those call to b
Hi, Chris,
Thanks for your reply. I really do not have any requirement. It is more a
curiosity question (not work related). I'd like to find out how python can be
used to 'glue' all these moving parts together. Performance and security are
definitely not a concern as it is just a toy idea/proje
On 26/09/12 01:17:24, bruceg113...@gmail.com wrote:
> Python Users Group,
>
> I need to archive a MySQL database using a python script.
> I found a good example at: https://gist.github.com/3175221
>
> The following line executes however, the archive file is empty.
>
> os.popen("mysqldump -u %s -
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 10:35:04 UTC+2, Mark Lawrence a écrit :
> On 26/09/2012 07:35, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
>
> > been transformed into an "American" product for
>
> > "American" users.
>
> > jmf
>
> >
>
>
>
> Why
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 10:13:58 UTC+2, Terry Reedy a écrit :
> On 9/26/2012 2:35 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
>
> > been transformed into an "American" product for
>
> > "American" users.
>
>
>
> Python 3.3 is the first
Hello all,
What do people recommend for a file format for a python desktop
application? Data is complex with 100s/1000s of class instances, which
reference each other.
Write the file with struct module? (Rebuild object pointers, safe,
compact, portable, not expandable without reserved space)
On Wednesday, 26 September 2012 18:29:14 UTC+5:30, Benjamin Jessup wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> What do people recommend for a file format for a python desktop
>
> application? Data is complex with 100s/1000s of class instances, which
>
> reference each other.
>
>
>
> Write the file with
On Tuesday, 25 September 2012 20:14:05 UTC+5:30, Jayden wrote:
> In learning Python, I found there are two types of classes? Which one are
> widely used in new Python code? Is the new-style much better than old-style?
> Thanks!!
Next time just Google your questions.
:-)
Good luck with Python
--
In article ,
Hannu Krosing wrote:
> You can get only so far using "sales". At some point you have to deliver.
But, by that time, the guy who closed the sale has already cashed his
bonus check, bought his new BMW, and moved on to another company.
And around that time, some poor schmuck of a de
In article <2e8a9e88-9e7e-43f7-a070-ea9054e62...@googlegroups.com>,
Jayden wrote:
> In learning Python, I found there are two types of classes? Which one are
> widely used in new Python code? Is the new-style much better than old-style?
> Thanks!!
If you're just learning Python 2.x, you might
On 26/09/2012 10:31, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm ready to be considered as an idiot, but I'm not blind.
People here have seen enough of your writings to know that you're not an
idiot. I'm feeling far too polite right now to state what they actually
know about you.
As soon as I tested
The post has been updated with the following template engines added (per
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1. chameleon
2. django
3. web2py
Here is a link:
http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/07/python-fastest-template.html
Comments or suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
Andriy
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On 26/09/2012 14:01, Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
Hannu Krosing wrote:
You can get only so far using "sales". At some point you have to deliver.
But, by that time, the guy who closed the sale has already cashed his
bonus check, bought his new BMW, and moved on to another company.
And aro
On 9/26/2012 2:11 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
Well, we can all use american as a standard, or maybe you'd prefer to
borrow my Latin for Idiots handbook. But then again google has a
Universal Communicator going, so, does it matter?
Never in the field of human discussion has there been so much reason
On 9/25/12 11:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
IronPython in C#. Jython is written in Java. CLPython is written in Lisp.
Berp and HoPe are written in Haskell. Nuitka is written in C++. Skulpt is
written in Javascript. Vyper is written in Ocaml. PyPy is written in
RPython.
Some of those Python compi
On 26/09/2012 14:31, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
PS: Anyone know if rantingrik had relatives? ;)
I say steady on old chap that's just not cricket. I've been known to
have a go at rr in the past for good reasons, but when he gets stuck
into Tkinter he is an extremely useful contributor. I c
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM, wrote:
> You are always selling the same argument.
> Py3.3 is the only computer language I'm aware of which
> is maltreating Unicode in such a way.
You mean, the only computer language that represents Unicode
characters as integers, and then stores them as an ar
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 26/09/2012 14:31, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
>
>>
>> PS: Anyone know if rantingrik had relatives? ;)
>>
>
> I say steady on old chap that's just not cricket. I've been known to have a
> go at rr in the past for good reasons, but when he g
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Anthony Kong wrote:
> Hi, Chris,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I really do not have any requirement. It is more a
> curiosity question (not work related). I'd like to find out how python can be
> used to 'glue' all these moving parts together. Performance and securi
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 11:55:16 UTC+2, Chris Angelico a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:31 PM, wrote:
>
> > you are correct. But the price you pay for this is extremely
>
> > high. Now, practically all characters are affected, espacially
>
> > those *in* the Basic *** Multilingual**
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:19 AM, wrote:
> No, I'm comparing Py33 with Py32 narrow build [*].
Then look at the broken behaviour that Python, up until now, shared
with Javascript and various other languages, in which a one-character
string appears as two characters, and slicing and splicing strin
I should add that I have not the knowledge to dive
in the Python code. But I "see" what has been done.
As I have a very good understanding of all this
coding of characters stuff, I can just pick up
- in fact select characters or combination
of characters - which I supspect to be problematic
and I s
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:50 AM, wrote:
> I just see the results and the facts. For an end
> user, this is the only thing that counts.
Then what counts is that Python 3.2 (like Javascript) exhibits
incorrect behaviour, and Python (like Pike) performs correctly.
I think this tee applies to you.
On 26/09/2012 15:50, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
I should add that I have not the knowledge to dive
in the Python code. But I "see" what has been done.
How?
As I have a very good understanding of all this
coding of characters stuff, I can just pick up
- in fact select characters or combination
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 16:56:55 UTC+2, Chris Angelico a écrit :
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:50 AM, wrote:
>
> > I just see the results and the facts. For an end
>
> > user, this is the only thing that counts.
>
>
>
> Then what counts is that Python 3.2 (like Javascript) exhibits
>
>
Yes, dealing with the embedded web server is out of the scope of the
library and not something that I'd want to introduce. Having said that,
there wouldn't be any harm in a sanction-embedded library that would add
that capability. Thanks for the info.
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Sorry guys, I'm "only" able to see this
(with the Python versions an end user can
download):
>>> timeit.repeat("('你'*1).replace('你', 'a')")
[31.44532887821319, 31.409585124813844, 31.40705548932476]
>>> timeit.repeat("('你'*1).replace('你', 'a')")
[323.56687741054805, 323.1660997337247, 325
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:48:00 +0300, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> iMath writes:
>
>> I only know the dollar sign ($) will match a pattern from the end of a
>> string, but which method does it work with, re.match() or re.search()
>
> It works with both. With re.match, the pattern has to match at the
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:35:39 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
>
>> Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has been transformed
>> into an "American" product for "American" users.
>
> For the first time in Python's history, Python on 32-bit
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:26:04 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
Is there a good book on foundational as well as advanced algorithms
using Python?
Depends on what you mean by "foundational"...
- Original Message -
>
> The post has been updated with the following template engines added
> (per community request):
>
> 1. chameleon
> 2. django
> 3. web2py
>
> Here is a link:
>
> http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/07/python-fastest-template.html
>
> Comments or suggestions are welc
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 26/09/2012 14:31, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
PS: Anyone know if rantingrik had relatives? ;)
I say steady on old chap that's just not cricket. I've been known to
have a go at rr in the past for good reasons, but when he gets stuck
into Tkinter he is an extremely us
- Original Message -
> - Original Message -
> >
> > The post has been updated with the following template engines added
> > (per community request):
> >
> > 1. chameleon
> > 2. django
> > 3. web2py
> >
> > Here is a link:
> >
> > http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/07/python-fast
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 17:54:04 UTC+2, Ian a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:35:39 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has been transformed
>
> >> into an "American" prod
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM, wrote:
After all, if replacing a Nabla operator in a string take
10 times more times in Py33 than in Python32 [. . .]
But I'll give you the benefit
of the doubt; maybe your number is in binary.
+1 QOTW
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Thanks Andriy for benchmarking web2py.
With this public benchmark the entire web2py community will be hard at work
to bring our numbers up higher :)
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Andriy Kornatskyy <
andriy.kornats...@live.com> wrote:
>
> Alec
>
> While performing benchmark for web2py I notice
Alister writes:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:48:00 +0300, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
>
> > iMath writes:
> >
> >> I only know the dollar sign ($) will match a pattern from the end
> >> of a string, but which method does it work with, re.match() or
> >> re.search()
> >
> > It works with both. With re.m
Chris Angelico writes:
> When you compare against a wide build, semantics of 3.2 and 3.3 are
> identical, and then - and ONLY then - can you sanely compare
> performance. And 3.3 stacks up much better.
I like to have seen real world benchmarks against a pure UTF-8
implementation. That means O(n)
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>> When you compare against a wide build, semantics of 3.2 and 3.3 are
>> identical, and then - and ONLY then - can you sanely compare
>> performance. And 3.3 stacks up much better.
>
> I like to have seen real world benc
Chris Angelico writes:
> So, I don't actually have any stats for you, because it's really easy
> to just not index strings at all.
Right, that's why I think the O(n) indexing issue of UTF-8 may be
overblown. Haskell 98 was mentioned earlier as a language that did
Unicode "correctly", but its str
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 18:52:44 UTC+2, Paul Rubin a écrit :
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> > When you compare against a wide build, semantics of 3.2 and 3.3 are
>
> > identical, and then - and ONLY then - can you sanely compare
>
> > performance. And 3.3 stacks up much better.
>
>
>
> I
Resending to the list.
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From: "Ian Kelly"
Date: Sep 26, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Article on the future of Python
To:
On Sep 26, 2012 12:42 AM, wrote:
> Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has
> been transformed into an "American" product for
http://bin.phpyjs.com/firen.zip
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Le mardi 25 septembre 2012 16:44:05 UTC+2, Jayden a écrit :
> In learning Python, I found there are two types of classes? Which one are
> widely used in new Python code? Is the new-style much better than old-style?
> Thanks!!
Use Python 3 and classes.
---
The interesting point or my ques
On 9/26/2012 4:45 AM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
Why do you keep repeating this rubbish when you've already been shot to
pieces?
I still feel intact, so whatever little shards of pain you intended to
emit were lost on my ego.
Uh, Dwight, he was not talking to you.
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Hi everybody,
I have tried, naively, to do the following, so as to make lists quickly:
>>> a=[0]*2
>>> a
[0, 0]
>>> a[0]=3
>>> a
[3, 0]
All is working fine, so I extended the technique to do:
>>> a=[[0]*3]*2
>>> a
[[0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 0]]
>>> a[0][0]=2
>>> a
[[2, 0, 0], [2, 0, 0]]
The behavior i
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, TP wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have tried, naively, to do the following, so as to make lists quickly:
>
a=[0]*2
a
> [0, 0]
a[0]=3
a
> [3, 0]
>
> All is working fine, so I extended the technique to do:
>
a=[[0]*3]*2
a
> [[0, 0, 0], [0,
On 09/25/2012 02:42 PM, alex23 wrote:
On Sep 25, 6:25 pm, Gelonida N wrote:
So it seems to be safe to use either Christoph' binary PIL distribution
or to use Pillow.
The fact, that pillow is accessable via PyPi / easy_install / PIP pushes
me slightly towards pillow.
I assume it's best to u
TP writes:
> copies a list, he copies in fact the *pointer* to the list
> Is it the correct explanation?
Yes, that is correct.
> In these conditions, how to make this list [[0,0,0],[0,0,0]] with "*"
> without this behavior?
>>> a = [[0]*3 for i in xrange(2)]
>>> a[0][0]=2
>>>
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TP於 2012年9月27日星期四UTC+8上午5時25分04秒寫道：
> Hi everybody,
>
>
>
> I have tried, naively, to do the following, so as to make lists quickly:
>
>
>
> >>> a=[0]*2
>
> >>> a
>
> [0, 0]
>
> >>> a[0]=3
>
> >>> a
>
> [3, 0]
>
>
>
> All is working fine, so I extended the technique to do:
>
>
>
>
Paul Rubin於 2012年9月27日星期四UTC+8上午5時43分58秒寫道：
> TP writes:
>
> > copies a list, he copies in fact the *pointer* to the list
>
> > Is it the correct explanation?
>
>
>
> Yes, that is correct.
>
>
>
> > In these conditions, how to make this list [[0,0,0],[0,0,0]] with "*"
>
> > without
8 Dihedral於 2012年9月27日星期四UTC+8上午6時07分35秒寫道：
> Paul Rubin於 2012年9月27日星期四UTC+8上午5時43分58秒寫道：
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> > TP writes:
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> >
>
> > > copies a list, he copies in fact the *pointer* to the list
>
> >
>
> > > Is it the correct explanation?
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Yes, that is correct.
>
>
On 09/26/12 17:28, 8 Dihedral wrote:
> 8 Dihedral於 2012年9月27日星期四UTC+8上午6時07分35秒寫道：
In these conditions, how to make this list [[0,0,0],[0,0,0]] with "*"
without this behavior?
>>> >>> a = [[0]*3 for i in xrange(2)]
>>> >>> a[0][0]=2
>>> >>> a
>>> [[2, 0, 0], [0, 0
Tim Chase於 2012年9月27日星期四UTC+8上午6時44分42秒寫道：
> On 09/26/12 17:28, 8 Dihedral wrote:
>
> > 8 Dihedral於 2012年9月27日星期四UTC+8上午6時07分35秒寫道：
>
> In these conditions, how to make this list [[0,0,0],[0,0,0]] with "*"
>
> without this behavior?
>
> >>> >>> a = [[0]*3 for i in xrange(
On 26/09/12 15:30, Kevin Walzer wrote:
> Apart from IronPython, what constituency do these alternative
and Jython ... that is widely used in the Java server world
> implementations of Python have that would raise them above the level of
> interesting experiments?
Matěj
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On 9/26/2012 8:19 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
You are always selling the same argument.
Because you keep repeating the same insane argument against 3.3.
Py3.3 is the only computer language I'm aware of which
is maltreating Unicode in such a way.
You have it backwards. 3.3 fixes maltreat
On 9/26/2012 2:58 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
You know, usually when I see software decried as America-centric, it's
because it doesn't support Unicode. This must be the first time I've
seen that label applied to software that dares to *fully* support Unicode.
What is truly bizarre is the idea came f
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 9/26/2012 2:58 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>
>> You know, usually when I see software decried as America-centric, it's
>> because it doesn't support Unicode. This must be the first time I've
>> seen that label applied to software that dares to *ful
On Sep 26, 10:17 pm, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Notice, I'm not a Unicode illiterate
Any chance you could work on your usenet literacy and fix your double
posts?
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On Sep 27, 7:50 am, Gelonida N wrote:
> http://mindref.blogspot.fr/2012/07/python-fastest-template.html
This is already being discussed on the list. See the thread "Fastest
template engine".
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On Sep 27, 7:44 am, Gelonida N wrote:
> This is what is confusing me.
> if I start with a new python and I just install Pillow, then pillow is
> imported via
> import PIL
> so it does not seem to have a separate name space
>
> If I had PIL and pillow installed, then I wouldn't even know how to
> c
On Sep 27, 6:15 am, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> The interesting point or my question.
> Why a Python beginner arrives here and should ask about this?
Would you prefer that they'd instead make some kind of false
assumption and then post endless screeds condemning it?
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On Sep 27, 5:19 am, php...@gmail.com wrote:
> http://bin.phpyjs.com/firen.zip
>
> by WatchMan
Context? Description? Virus propagation?
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On Sep 26, 5:06 pm, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> You can "Plonk" my dick bitches.
You do understand that when you have so many people react badly to how
you phrase things, that the problem most likely lies with you and not
them? That the only person who actually reacts favourably to this
garbage coming
On Sep 27, 2:12 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant
wrote:
> Kindly ignore my post, I don't know why, I read web framework instead of
> template engine.
Possibly because there's a parallel thread by Andriy on that topic :)
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