pytracemalloc 0.7: new tool to track memory leaks in Python

2013-03-08 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Wyplay is proud to announce the release of a new tool to track Python memory allocations: pytracemalloc. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytracemalloc https://github.com/wyplay/pytracemalloc pytracemalloc provides the following information: - Allocated size and number of allocations per file,

Karlsruhe (Germany) Python User Group, March 15th 2013, 7pm

2013-03-08 Thread Jürgen A . Erhard
The Karlsruhe Python User Group (KaPy) meets again. Friday, 2013-03-15 (March 15th) at 19:00 (7pm) in the rooms of Entropia eV (the local affiliate of the CCC). See http://entropia.de/wiki/Anfahrt on how to get there. For your calendars: meetings are held monthly, on the 3rd Friday. There's

ANN: Python Tools for Visual Studio 2.0 Alpha

2013-03-08 Thread Dino Viehland
We're pleased to announce the release of Python Tools for Visual Studio 2.0 Alphahttp://pytools.codeplex.com/releases/view/72638. Python Tools for Visual Studio (PTVS) is an open-source plug-in for Visual Studio which supports programming with the Python language. PTVS supports a broad range of

Re: 3.3.1 release date?

2013-03-08 Thread sferencik
On Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:57:09 PM UTC+1, Terry Reedy wrote: On 3/7/2013 6:02 AM, sferen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, When is the 3.3.1 final due? I have found this [http://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0398/#id1], but the info doesn't seem up to date. Is there a better source of

RE: Set x to to None and del x doesn't release memory in python 2.7.1 (HPUX 11.23, ia64)

2013-03-08 Thread Wong Wah Meng-R32813
The problem is my server hits memory usage threshold, and starts giving me errors like Oracle unable to spawn off new session stating Out of Memory error and what not. I won't be bothered much if I have the luxury of available memory for other processes to use. If only if the UNIX understand my

Re: Linking with static libraries for Python standard components such as OpenSSL

2013-03-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/8/2013 2:23 AM, gerson.k...@gmail.com wrote: I am rebuilding Python 2.7.4 using Visual Studio 2010. As part of that, I wanted to build with a current OpenSSL version (1.0.1e) and an updated SQLite version. What I noted: the projects in the main workspace (at least in PCBuild) directly

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Νίκος Γκρ33κ
I must thank the tester of my webisites's security! He hacked it nicely and easily through tampering with 'htmlpage' variable's value! Now i'am validating htmlpage's input value and i don't beleive its hackable any more! Please feel free to try whoever want to! Thnk you all for your patience

Unit test cases for Object intraction using mox/unittest

2013-03-08 Thread jitendra gupta
Hi I need to write the unit test cases for similary kind of sitution. I need to write the unit test case for Foo.testCall. for both case true or false. I am unalbe to do that. kindly please help me on this. as function is not returning any thing. from google i got mox is good for this case. but

Tkinter GUI Question-Infinite Loop

2013-03-08 Thread prquinn
Greetings, I'm trying to run a simple Tkinter program that opens a program when you click a button. The code is listed below. I use a command to call a program that then calls a fortran program. However, when I click on the button, it opens the program but the menu of the program i'm

Missing logging output in Python

2013-03-08 Thread gabor . a . halasz
Hi, I would like to enable loggin in my script using the logging module that comes with Python 2.7.3. I have the following few lines setting up logging in my script, but for whatever reason I don't seem to get any output to stdout or to a file provided to the basicConfig method. Any ideas?

Has anyone here checked out GroupServer lately?

2013-03-08 Thread Steven Clift
We are a user of this python-based GPL maillist/web forum platform: http://groupserver.org I'd be interested in folks thoughts about it. We'd like to see the development community grow. The main difference with Mailman is that it is more of a balance between web and e-mail, while still

Re: Python and Hidden Markov Model

2013-03-08 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 8 March 2013 05:26, subhabangal...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, March 8, 2013 2:18:06 AM UTC+5:30, subhaba...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to learn Hidden Markov Model. In Python there are various packages, but I was willing to do some basic calculation starting from the scratch so that

Re: Tkinter GUI Question-Infinite Loop

2013-03-08 Thread MRAB
On 08/03/2013 14:04, prqu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm trying to run a simple Tkinter program that opens a program when you click a button. The code is listed below. I use a command to call a program that then calls a fortran program. However, when I click on the button, it opens the

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread Rick Johnson
On Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:50:52 PM UTC-6, rh wrote: Choices are good. [...] Having one choice is a mess. And look back at history and current events Sometimes choices are forced upon you without your consent or even without regard for the end users' well-being. In this case choices are no

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread Tim Johnson
* rh richard_hubb...@lavabit.com [130307 20:21]: On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:55:12 -0900 Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote: I believe that indifference on the part of Python to fastcgi is a self-inflicted wound. I don't believe that there is any good excuse for such indifference,

ANN: Wing IDE 4.1.12 released

2013-03-08 Thread Stephan Deibel
Hi, Wingware has released version 4.1.12 of Wing IDE, our integrated development environment designed specifically for the Python programming language. Wing IDE provides a professional quality code editor with vi, emacs, and other key bindings, auto-completion, call tips, refactoring,

I cant understand this error when i click a link on my website

2013-03-08 Thread Νίκος Γκρ33κ
A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred. /home/nikos/public_html/cgi-bin/metrites.py in () 12 13 htmlpage = form.getvalue('htmlpage') 14 if re.search( r'(.html|.py)', htmlpage ): 15

Re: I cant understand this error when i click a link on my website

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Νίκος Γκρ33κ nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote: 15 htmlpage = htmlpage.replace( '/home/nikos/public_html/', '' ) re = module 're' from '/usr/lib64/python2.6/re.pyc', re.search = function search, htmlpage = ['/home/nikos/public_html/index.html',

itertools.filterfalse - what is it good for

2013-03-08 Thread Wolfgang Maier
Dear all, can anybody point out a situation where you really need itertools.filterfalse() ? So far, I couldn't think of a case where you couldn't replace it with a generator expression/if combination. e.g., a=filterfalse(lambda x: x%2, range(1,101)) b=(i for i in range(1,101) if not i % 2) do

Re: I cant understand this error when i click a link on my website

2013-03-08 Thread Νίκος Γκρ33κ
Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 6:46:35 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Νίκος Γκρ33κ nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote: 15 htmlpage = htmlpage.replace( '/home/nikos/public_html/', '' ) re = module 're' from '/usr/lib64/python2.6/re.pyc',

Re: itertools.filterfalse - what is it good for

2013-03-08 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-03-08, Wolfgang Maier wolfgang.ma...@biologie.uni-freiburg.de wrote: Dear all, can anybody point out a situation where you really need itertools.filterfalse() ? So far, I couldn't think of a case where you couldn't replace it with a generator expression/if combination. e.g.,

Re: I cant understand this error when i click a link on my website

2013-03-08 Thread MRAB
On 08/03/2013 17:04, Sven wrote: On 8 March 2013 16:50, Νίκος Γκρ33κ nikos.gr...@gmail.com mailto:nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote: but that same exact code is executed withour errors when someone is http://superhost.gr the erro is produces when he is requesting a link from that

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread rusi
On Mar 8, 9:50 am, rh richard_hubb...@lavabit.com wrote: Choices are good. Having one choice is a mess. And look back at history and current events if you don't see that. See http://www.perl.com/pub/1999/03/pm.html for how a real post-modern hip language gives endless choice. Also called

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:58:12 -0800, rusi wrote: My questions: 1.  Why is Ruby on Rails much more popular than Django? Where there is choice there is no freedom http://www.jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/1954/1954-03-03-jiddu- krishnamurti-8th-public-talk Surely that should be, where there is NO

Re: Python and Hidden Markov Model

2013-03-08 Thread Subhabrata
On Mar 8, 7:29 pm, Oscar Benjamin oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 March 2013 05:26,  subhabangal...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, March 8, 2013 2:18:06 AM UTC+5:30, subhaba...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to learn Hidden Markov Model. In Python there are various packages, but I was

Re: Interesting list() un-optimization

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:20:11 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: I stumbled upon an interesting bit of trivia concerning lists and list comprehensions today. We use mongoengine as a database model layer. A mongoengine query returns an iterable object called a QuerySet. The obvious way to create a

Re: iterating over a list as if it were a circular list

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:27:42 +, Sven wrote: Additionally, what if I wanted to pull a random element from N, but I want to ensure all elements from N have been used before starting to pick already chosen random elements again. So far I thought of duplicating the list and removing the

Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes?

2013-03-08 Thread Roy Smith
To make a long (and painful) story short, I've got a (large) list of datetimes, and was getting some bizarre errors working with it. One of the things I tried while debugging the problem was verifying that all the elements of the list were indeed datetimes: In [59]: set(type(foo) for foo in

Re: Interesting list() un-optimization

2013-03-08 Thread Roy Smith
In article 513a26fa$0$30001$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:20:11 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: I stumbled upon an interesting bit of trivia concerning lists and list comprehensions today. We use

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:55:07 +0100, Vito De Tullio wrote: Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote: -c ''; rm -rf /; oops.py Yes its being pulled by http request! But please try to do it, i dont think it will work! try yourself and tell us what happened That's not very nice. Please don't tell the

crypto program in python.

2013-03-08 Thread khudo . anastasia
Hi every every body, Today I have to submit my assignment for Computer Science, And I am absolutely stuck in writing the code. Please help me in soon possible. The main idea of the program is encode and decode the text. that wot the instructor gave us so far. Sample Run Here's a sample run of

Re: crypto program in python.

2013-03-08 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-03-08, khudo.anasta...@gmail.com khudo.anasta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi every every body, Today I have to submit my assignment for Computer Science, And I am absolutely stuck in writing the code. Please help me in soon possible. The main idea of the program is encode and decode the

Re: crypto program in python.

2013-03-08 Thread khudo . anastasia
On Friday, March 8, 2013 2:07:55 PM UTC-5, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2013-03-08, khudo.anasta...@gmail.com khudo.anasta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi every every body, Today I have to submit my assignment for Computer Science, And I am absolutely stuck in writing the code. Please help me in

Re: I cant understand this error when i click a link on my website

2013-03-08 Thread info
Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 7:04:29 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης sven έγραψε: On 8 March 2013 16:50, Νίκος Γκρ33κ nikos...@gmail.com wrote: but that same exact code is executed withour errors when someone is http://superhost.gr the erro is produces when he is requesting a link

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread info
Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 8:54:15 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:55:07 +0100, Vito De Tullio wrote: Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote: -c ''; rm -rf /; oops.py Yes its being pulled by http request! But please try to do it, i dont think

Re: crypto program in python.

2013-03-08 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2013-03-08, khudo.anasta...@gmail.com khudo.anasta...@gmail.com wrote: I believe your instructor intends you to start with the skeleton of the program provided above. Complete it by writing the missing functions: menu, decode, and encode. that is where I confused, I am not sure how to do

Re: crypto program in python.

2013-03-08 Thread khudo . anastasia
On Friday, March 8, 2013 2:32:24 PM UTC-5, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2013-03-08, khudo.anasta...@gmail.com khudo.anasta...@gmail.com wrote: I believe your instructor intends you to start with the skeleton of the program provided above. Complete it by writing the missing functions:

Re: crypto program in python.

2013-03-08 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote: On 2013-03-08, khudo.anasta...@gmail.com khudo.anasta...@gmail.com wrote: I believe your instructor intends you to start with the skeleton of the program provided above. Complete it by writing the missing functions:

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:19 PM, i...@cravendot.gr wrote: I dare anyone who wants to to mess with 'htmlpage' variable value's now! I made it unhackable i believe! I'am testing it myself 3 hours now and find it safe! Please feel free to try also! Okay, done. I was still able to read your

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:19 PM, i...@cravendot.gr wrote: I dare anyone who wants to to mess with 'htmlpage' variable value's now! I made it unhackable i believe! I'am testing it myself 3 hours now and find it safe!

itertools doc example consume

2013-03-08 Thread Skip Montanaro
I've never really used itertools before. While trying to figure out how to break a list up into equal pieces, I came across the consume function in the examples here: http://docs.python.org/2/library/itertools.html It seems to me that it should return whatever it consumes from the list. I

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Νίκος Γκρ33κ
Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 10:01:59 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Ian έγραψε: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:19 PM, i...@cravendot.gr wrote: I dare anyone who wants to to mess with 'htmlpage' variable value's now! I made it unhackable i believe! I'am testing it myself 3 hours now and

Re: itertools doc example consume

2013-03-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: I've never really used itertools before. While trying to figure out how to break a list up into equal pieces, I came across the consume function in the examples here: http://docs.python.org/2/library/itertools.html It

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread nagia . retsina
Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 8:54:15 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: -c ''; rm -rf /; oops.py Please don't tell the newbies to destroy their system, no matter how tempting it might be. What that -c '' options i keep seeing in the attempts to pass bogus info in my 'page'

Any other screenwriters?

2013-03-08 Thread Rick Dooling
Hello all, I am an amateur Python person, and I usually learn just enough to make one writing tool or another as I go, because mainly I'm a writer, not a programmer. Recently, I've been exploring a markdown syntax called Fountain for screenwriters http://fountain.io/syntax

Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes?

2013-03-08 Thread Nobody
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:41:27 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: So, the question is, WHY aren't aware and naive datetimes separate classes? They share many attributes and methods, but not all. They share all attributes and methods. You could just as well ask why positive and negative floats aren't

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Νίκος Γκρ33κ nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote: I cant beleive how easy you hacked the webserver again and be able to read my cgi scripts source and write to cgi-bin too! I have added extra security by following some of your advice, i wonder if youc an hack it

Re: itertools doc example consume

2013-03-08 Thread Skip Montanaro
Ian Kelly ian.g.kelly at gmail.com writes: Depending on your Python version lst is either a range object or a list, neither of which is an iterator. If you pass to consume an iterable object that is not an iterator, it will implicitly obtain an iterator for it, consume from the iterator, and

Re: Any other screenwriters?

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Rick Dooling rpdool...@gmail.com wrote: To that end, I would like to take this Ruby script (which works pretty well, but throws errors in Mac OS X; some Ruby ones and some Prince ones) and convert it to Python so I can fix it myself, because I don't know Ruby

Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes?

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Nobody nob...@nowhere.com wrote: On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 13:41:27 -0500, Roy Smith wrote: So, the question is, WHY aren't aware and naive datetimes separate classes? They share many attributes and methods, but not all. They share all attributes and methods. You

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread emile
On 03/08/2013 12:54 PM, nagia.rets...@gmail.com wrote: Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 8:54:15 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: -c ''; rm -rf /; oops.py Please don't tell the newbies to destroy their system, no matter how tempting it might be. What that -c '' options i keep

Re: Any other screenwriters?

2013-03-08 Thread richarddooling
Thank you, Chris. I was trying to avoid the xcode since I know didley about that too, but I'll download it and see if I can get it to run. THANKS AGAIN Rick On Friday, March 8, 2013 3:51:44 PM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Rick Dooling wrote: To that end, I

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, nagia.rets...@gmail.com wrote: Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 8:54:15 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: -c ''; rm -rf /; oops.py Please don't tell the newbies to destroy their system, no matter how tempting it might be. What that -c '' options

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Νίκος Γκρ33κ nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for pointing my flaws once again! I cant beleive how easy you hacked the webserver again and be able to read my cgi scripts source and write to cgi-bin too! I have added extra security by following

Apparent magic number problem

2013-03-08 Thread Colin J. Williams
I have a program that I wish to run in both Python 2.7 and Python 3.2 The program runs correctly under each version, but it runs more slowly under 3.2. This is probably due to the fact that the .pyc file is created for the Python 2.7 execution. When Python 3.2 is run it fails to create a

Running external module and accessing the created objects

2013-03-08 Thread Kene Meniru
Program summary: I have a module called user.py that imports another module called app.py. Functions in app.py are used in user.py to describe 3D objects. These objects are saved in another object described in doc.py. app.py contains a function called view(). When called in user.py, it

Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs?

2013-03-08 Thread Bob Hanson
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:12:43 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 06/03/2013 01:43, Bob Hanson wrote: [problem reporting bugs] You'll be delighted to know that everybody will have to sign a contributor agreement if they're supplying a patch file on the bug tracker, see

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread nagia . retsina
Τη Σάββατο, 9 Μαρτίου 2013 2:26:56 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Ian έγραψε: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Νίκος Γκρ33κ nikos.gr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for pointing my flaws once again! I cant beleive how easy you hacked the webserver again and be able to read my cgi

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Νίκος Γκρ33κ
Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 11:37:11 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: There is NO WAY that you are the smartest or most devious person on Earth. Also, the three hours that you put in are *nothing* compared to the collective time that the rest of the world will spend fiddling

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Νίκος Γκρ33κ
Τη Σάββατο, 9 Μαρτίου 2013 2:18:42 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Ian έγραψε: So the -c is an option to Python. It means that instead of reading a script, Python should run commands passed on the command line in the next argument. That's the ''. It's empty, so what this instructs Python is to do

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 09/03/2013 03:18, Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote: Τη Παρασκευή, 8 Μαρτίου 2013 11:37:11 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: There is NO WAY that you are the smartest or most devious person on Earth. Also, the three hours that you put in are *nothing* compared to the collective time that the

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 09/03/2013 03:17, Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote: Τη Σάββατο, 9 Μαρτίου 2013 2:18:42 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Ian έγραψε: So the -c is an option to Python. It means that instead of reading a script, Python should run commands passed on the command line in the next argument. That's the ''. It's empty,

Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs?

2013-03-08 Thread Bob Hanson
On 06 Mar 2013 03:38:36 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:51:36 -0800, Bob Hanson wrote: [trouble reporting bugs] Works for me. Please try again, and if it still does not work, please email me off-list and I will help you either set up an account or report a tracker

Re: Any other screenwriters?

2013-03-08 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, March 8, 2013 3:07:59 PM UTC-6, Rick Dooling wrote: I am an amateur Python person, and I usually learn just enough to make one writing tool or another as I go, because mainly I'm a writer, not a programmer. Recently, I've been exploring a markdown syntax called Fountain for

Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs?

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Bob Hanson invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: (I was without internet access for a few days while the experts at the phone company once again attempted to simulate minimal competence culminating with their DSL install expert -- who had never heard of Linux -- trying

Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs?

2013-03-08 Thread Bob Hanson
On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:50:35 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: On 3/6/2013 2:48 PM, rh wrote: [Bob Hanson wrote:] I've tried twice to register with the bug tracker -- including just before sending this post. [...] [other details and errors snipped] I had wanted to report doc

Re: Why is Ruby on Rails more popular than Django?

2013-03-08 Thread rusi
On Mar 8, 10:47 pm, Steven D'Aprano steve +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:58:12 -0800, rusi wrote: My questions: 1.  Why is Ruby on Rails much more popular than Django? Where there is choice there is no freedom

Re: An error when i switched from python v2.6.6 = v3.2.3

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:18:50 -0800, Νίκος Γκρ33κ wrote: I agree with you but i wonder why the world would want to dedicate hours for fiddling with my script? Why anyone should mess with my website http://superhost.gr ? What makes you think it would be hours? For somebody who knows what they

Re: Apparent magic number problem

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:48:28 -0500, Colin J. Williams wrote: I have a program that I wish to run in both Python 2.7 and Python 3.2 The program runs correctly under each version, but it runs more slowly under 3.2. Without knowing what your program does, it is impossible to comment on why it

Re: Any other screenwriters?

2013-03-08 Thread richarddooling
On Friday, March 8, 2013 9:41:57 PM UTC-6, Rick Johnson wrote: First impression of Fountain: TOTAL CRAP! Noted. But it seems to be the syntax the screenwriters and their programmers have settled on for now. It's all working pretty well. Just no Python or command-line implementations yet. I

Re: itertools.filterfalse - what is it good for

2013-03-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/8/2013 11:45 AM, Wolfgang Maier wrote: Dear all, can anybody point out a situation where you really need itertools.filterfalse() ? So far, I couldn't think of a case where you couldn't replace it with a generator expression/if combination. e.g., a=filterfalse(lambda x: x%2, range(1,101))

Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs?

2013-03-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/8/2013 11:12 PM, Bob Hanson wrote: I do notice trivial changes, I am currently set up again to do doc changes, so if you already have some non-controversial changes to the *current* docs, the online html versions, go ahead and email them to me. but I also feel some of the

[issue10441] some stdlib modules need to be updated to handle SSL certificate validation

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue1621] Do not assume signed integer overflow behavior

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue7672] _ssl module overwrites existing thread safety callbacks

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue8106] SSL session management

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue10852] SSL/TLS sni use in smtp, pop, imap, nntp, ftp client libs by default

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue13647] Python SSL stack doesn't securely validate certificate (as client)

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue13655] Python SSL stack doesn't have a default CA Store

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue13747] ssl_version documentation error

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue13403] Option for XMLPRC Server to support HTTPS

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
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[issue13747] ssl_version documentation error

2013-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
Florian Weimer added the comment: OpenSSL cross-version updates are sometimes difficult because they invalidate certifications. Updating Python to SSLv23 with SSL_OP_NO_SSLv2 is comparatively easy and also much less riskier. Shall I submit a patch which changes the default? I would also

[issue17384] test_logging failures on Windows

2013-03-08 Thread Vinay Sajip
Vinay Sajip added the comment: I'm not sure it's related to #11557 - it's more likely to be my changes last week to fix #17313, where I changed those tests to add self.addCleanup(os.remove, 'test.log') There's also an addCleanup that closes the handler which opens the file, which should

[issue17384] test_logging failures on Windows

2013-03-08 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 85325bce9982 by Vinay Sajip in branch 'default': Issue #17384: Consolidated cleanup operations in tests. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/85325bce9982 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker

[issue13747] ssl_version documentation error

2013-03-08 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: Florian this was already handled in issue #13636 (changeset f9122975fd80). -- resolution: - out of date stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org

[issue17378] Document that ctypes automatically applies byref() when argtypes declares POINTER

2013-03-08 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 76be5efa0d86 by Eli Bendersky in branch '3.2': Issue #17378: ctypes documentation fix. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/76be5efa0d86 New changeset 2cd2d8f8f72f by Eli Bendersky in branch '3.3': Issue #17378: ctypes documentation fix.

[issue17378] Document that ctypes automatically applies byref() when argtypes declares POINTER

2013-03-08 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 2dd77a12e7bf by Eli Bendersky in branch '2.7': Closing #17378: ctypes documentation fix. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/2dd77a12e7bf -- resolution: - fixed stage: needs patch - committed/rejected status: open - closed

[issue17327] Add PyDict_GetItemSetDefault() as C-API for dict.setdefault()

2013-03-08 Thread Roundup Robot
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset ca9a85c36e09 by Benjamin Peterson in branch 'default': fix warning (closes #17327) http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/ca9a85c36e09 -- resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker

[issue17380] initproc return value is unclear

2013-03-08 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc added the comment: The return value for error conditions should be -1. - typeobject.c checks with 0 - in _iomodule.c, there is == -1 - and pygobject/gobject/gobjectmodule.c just does:: if (...tp_init(...)) PyErr_Print(); -- nosy: +amaury.forgeotdarc

[issue17380] initproc return value is unclear

2013-03-08 Thread Zbyszek Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Zbyszek Jędrzejewski-Szmek added the comment: On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 02:30:18PM +, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote: Amaury Forgeot d'Arc added the comment: The return value for error conditions should be -1. - typeobject.c checks with 0 - in _iomodule.c, there is == -1 - and

[issue17376] TimedRotatingFileHandler documentation regarding 'Week day' lacking

2013-03-08 Thread karl
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[issue13477] tarfile module should have a command line

2013-03-08 Thread Éric Araujo
Éric Araujo added the comment: Users of the TAR format usually come from UNIX, so using the same command line options should not be so surprising. Not sure about that: they could be Python users wanting to unpack a tarball sdist. That said, there is no harm in being compatible, and I like

[issue11367] xml.etree.ElementTree.find(all): docs are wrong

2013-03-08 Thread Henrik Heimbuerger
Henrik Heimbuerger added the comment: Brought the ElementTree docs for find(), findtext() and findall() in line with the default branch (now they are just referencing the methods from Element). Made the same changes in the method comments of the implementation. Separate patches for 2.7 and

[issue11367] xml.etree.ElementTree.find(all): docs are wrong

2013-03-08 Thread Henrik Heimbuerger
Henrik Heimbuerger added the comment: Patch for 3.2. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file29350/issue11367_branch32.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11367 ___

[issue17383] Error in documentation /2/tutorial/modules.html#more-on-modules

2013-03-08 Thread Éric Araujo
Éric Araujo added the comment: Text sounds correct to me. It says that imports should happen at the beginning of a module, and that the names of imported modules are placed in the module namespace. There is an implicit logical link between the two sentences, and the wording of “symbol

[issue15873] datetime cannot parse ISO 8601 dates and times

2013-03-08 Thread Éric Araujo
Éric Araujo added the comment: Are you offering the module for inclusion in the stdlib? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15873 ___

[issue17383] Error in documentation /2/tutorial/modules.html#more-on-modules

2013-03-08 Thread Jeff Knupp
Jeff Knupp added the comment: I think Piotr's point is the wording of the last sentence is ambiguous. The second statement reads It is customary *but not required* to place all import statements at the beginning of a module The third seems to state that regardless of whether or not you

[issue17383] Error in documentation /2/tutorial/modules.html#more-on-modules

2013-03-08 Thread Piotr Kuchta
Piotr Kuchta added the comment: Jeff, thank you: that was exactly what I wanted to point out. The three sentences read in order imply that it doesn't matter whether you import a module at the top level of a script/module or in a function, because the effect is the same, namely the imported

[issue17383] Error in documentation /2/tutorial/modules.html#more-on-modules

2013-03-08 Thread Éric Araujo
Éric Araujo added the comment: It is customary *but not required* to place all import statements at the beginning of a module The third seems to state that regardless of whether or not you followed the custom, module names are always placed in the global symbol table Yes. Not following

[issue17383] Possibly ambiguous phrasing in tutorial/modules#more-on-modules

2013-03-08 Thread Éric Araujo
Éric Araujo added the comment: Ah, we have it: the tutorial distinguishes between “it’s customary to put imports near the top of the file” vs. “later in the file”, and you interpret it as “it’s customary to put imports at the module top level” vs. “import in any scope e.g. functions”. These

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