[ANN] python-dateutil 1.0
Changes since 0.9 - * Fixing parsing of XXhXXm formatted time after day/month/year has been parsed. * Adding patch by Jeffrey Harris optimizing rrule.__contains__. What is it? --- The dateutil module provides powerful extensions to the standard datetime module, available in Python 2.3+. Features * Computing of relative deltas (next month, next year, next monday, last week of month, and a lot more); * Computing of relative deltas between two given date and/or datetime objects; * Computing of dates based on very flexible recurrence rules (every month, every week on Thursday and Friday, every Friday 13th, and a *LOT* more), using a superset of the iCalendar RFC specification. Parsing of RFC strings is supported as well. * Generic parsing of dates in almost any string format; * Timezone (tzinfo) implementations for tzfile(5) format files (/etc/localtime, /usr/share/zoneinfo, etc), TZ environment string (in all known formats), iCalendar format files, given ranges (with help from relative deltas), local machine timezone, fixed offset timezone, UTC timezone, and Windows registry-based timezones. * Internal up-to-date world timezone information based on Olson's database. * Computing of Easter Sunday dates for any given year, using Western, Orthodox or Julian algorithms; * More than 400 test cases. Where to get it? https://moin.conectiva.com.br/DateUtil -- Gustavo Niemeyer http://niemeyer.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
[ANN] Release 0.43 of Task Coach
Hi all, Unfortunately, release 0.42 of Task Coach introduced a bug, causing Task Coach to not update information correctly in the tree and list view. Release 0.43 is meant to fix that. Bug fixed: * Tree and list view were not updated correctly when changing sort key or sort order, or marking tasks completed. What is Task Coach? Task Coach is a simple task manager that allows for hierarchical tasks, i.e. tasks in tasks. Task Coach is open source (GPL) and is developed using Python and wxPython. You can download Task Coach from: http://taskcoach.niessink.com https://sourceforge.net/projects/taskcoach/ A binary installer is available for Windows XP, in addition to the source distribution. Note that Task Coach is alpha software, meaning that it is wise to back up your task file regularly, and especially when upgrading to a new release. Cheers, Frank -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
Re: Could anyone write a small program to log the Signal-to-Noise figures for a Netgear DG834 router?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Chris, How would a wireless router show a signal to noise ratio? Especially if it's providing the signal? The Netgear DG834 is a wired router. Its statistics page gives line loss and SNR. -- Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Could anyone write a small program to log the Signal-to-Noise figures for a Netgear DG834 router?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:24:19 +0100, Chris wrote: Could anyone write a small program to log the Signal-to-Noise figures for a Netgear DG834 router? Are you offering to pay somebody to do it, or just suggesting a project for some Python programmer who is bored and looking for a small project to work on out of love? Yes, Steven, the latter. Sometimes programmers need an idea for a project - and, for them, knowing that someone would actually value what they did might make it more fun for them. -- Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Framework Reviews
Dave Cook wrote: On 2005-07-19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand I even in its current form I don't see how I would to the simple things that I need every day. Create a session, set a cookie, redirect to another url, perform HTTP autentication, create filter, use another templating language? This is also integral part of the functionality that I expect from an web framework. Web specific things exposed in some python ic way. Take a look at the Nevow FAQ and examples. Also, Nevow sits on top of Twisted, so you have all of Twisted's features available. http://divmod.org/users/wiki.twistd/nevow/moin.cgi/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Dave Cook One could use twisted.web2 also without the nevow part. The docs @ http://twistedmatrix.com/projects/web2/documentation/ are very clear and it contains a good example at the end. Benedict -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OO design
Robert Kern wrote:
chris wrote:
When I think about what I should do I end up with a class XY that has a
method for everything I want to do eg.
class XY:
def read_file
def scale_data
def plot_data
def shelve_data
But somehow that doesn't feel right, especially when I expect the
number of
methods will grow and grow, which would make the class very unwieldy.
snip great advice
In short slogans: Just Do It. Make It Work, Then Make It Right. Refactor
Mercilessly. Do the Simplest Thing That Could Possibly Work.
+1 QOTW
Very good advice IMO.
I would like to add that for the simpler classes, thinking of how you
want to use data can be a great starting point.
I recently programmed an interface to a firebird database and said, how
do i want to be able to use the software?
I thought of this:
table = fb.Table(datafile.fdb,customers)
vals = {}
vals[name]=customer1
vals[city]=mytown
table.insert(vals)
It looked like a great way to access and use it and it hides all the sql
details. Well, that's how i started and i had to refactor along the way
too :)
Regards,
Benedict
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Re: main window in tkinter app
William Gill wrote:
O.K. I tried from scratch, and the following snippet produces an
infinite loop saying:
File C:\Python24\lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py, line 1647, in __getattr__
return getattr(self.tk, attr)
If I comment out the __init__ method, I get the titled window, and print
out self.var ('1')
import os
from Tkinter import *
class MyApp(Tk):
var=1
def __init__(self):
pass
def getval(self):
return self.var
app = MyApp()
app.title(An App)
print app.getval()
app.mainloop()
You're not calling the parent's __init__ inside your derived class. I
would point out where the Python Tutorial points out that you should do
this, but it's not in the obvious place (Classes: Inheritance).
Python does -not- automagically call parent-class __init__s for derived
classes, you must do that explicitly. Changing the definition of your
class to the following works:
class MyApp(Tk):
var=1
def __init__(self):
Tk.__init__(self)
pass
def getval(self):
return self.var
It works when you comment out __init__ because of a quirk in Python's
name resolution. As you'd logically expect, if you don't define a
function in a derived class but call it (such as instance.method()), it
will call the method from the base class.
You just proved that this works for __init__ methods also. When you
didn't define __init__ for your derived class, MyApp() called
Tk.__init__(), which Does the Right Thing in terms of setting up all the
specific Tkinter-specific members.
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Using SHFileOperation
Hi All, I want to use SHFileOperation using Python and Win32 extentions, in order to move a file to the trash can. The function itself can be accessed by importing win32com.shell.shell. However, I cannot find anywhere the SHFILEOPSTRUCT. This structure is mentioned in the documentation of the Win32 extentions, but I can't find a way to access it. I would appreciate your help. If there's an alternative way to send a file to the trash can, that can also help. Best Regards Avishay -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
is a file open ?
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Reg file uploading
Dear All, I have doubt regarding file uploading. When we upload a file to the remote server we can get file type through file extentions. How we can find out file type if a file doesn't have any extentions ? with regards PRabahar __ Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: goto
Mike Meyer enlightened us with: I dislike gotos because it is too easy to inadvertently create infinite loops. 10 WINK; 20 GOTO 10 And it's impossible without them? while True: pass I thought the same thing, but then I read it again and thought about the inadvertently. As soon as you see a while True, you _know_ it's going to loop forever. As soon as you see a goto 10, you don't. Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Web shop in Python
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Re: Documentation bug: Python console behaviour changed
'Ctrl-Z' does not shut down the console but 'Ctrl-D' etc. Usually means you have a readline package installed. Right. Readline uninstalled, Ctrl-Z works again. By the way: After trying to take over readline support from Gary Bishop, I have inbetween given up trying to fix readline behaviour on international keyboards in Windows (mainly because the Python 2.4 IDLE works for me best, so I don't need IPython anymore). I haven't digged very deep into it, but I mean, that the whole code must be probably more or less entirely rewritten by someone with experience in internationalization matters on Windows (various keyboards and localized Windows versions) and readline behaviour on *nix systems. Up to now, there is noone known to me willing to support the readline package - any volunteers? Michele Simionato and me can then test the outcome on German and Italian Windows systems and keyboards. Claudio Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Lucas Raab] | Peter Hansen wrote: | Kay Schluehr wrote: | | The documentation of the Python console behaviour is not correct | anymore for Python 2.4.1. At least for the Win2K system | I'm working on | 'Ctrl-Z' does not shut down the console but 'Ctrl-D' etc. | | The Python interpreter tells me instead: | | | quit | | | 'Use Ctrl-Z plus Return to exit.' | | Nah, 'Ctrl-Z' is now undo :-) | | | Are you really using the console, started with the Command | Prompt icon | from the Start Menu (or some equivalent)? And are you sure | you haven't | installed something else that magically changed the | behaviour of Ctrl-Z? | | (I get the documented behaviour with Python 2.4.1, under Win XP.) | | -Peter | | I'm getting the same behavior as Kay. Usually means you have a readline package installed: I know that this one gives the effect described: http://sourceforge.net/projects/uncpythontools/ Don't know about this one: http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/readline.html TJG This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: email format in python
hello, this one works quite well on validating email syntax: http://www.secureprogramming.com/?action=""> regards, DimitriOn 7/20/05, Dark Cowherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to give reasonable results.import repattern = r'[EMAIL PROTECTED],4}\b'pattobj = re.compile(pattern)ps = pattobj.searchif ps(stringtocheck):But as lots of people have already told you on this list. This should only be used to give a warning and not prevent the use of thatparticular address.DarkCowherd--http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Please visit dimitri's website: www.serpia.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: dictionary as property
Thanos Tsouanas wrote:
Hello.
(How) can I have a class property d, such that d['foo'] = 'bar' will run
a certain function of the class with 'foo' and 'bar' as it's arguments?
I think you mean:
class A:
def __init__(self):
self.d = {}
def dict_change(self, key, value):
print key, value
a = A()
a.d['foo'] = 'bar'
-- foo bar
'a' only has a reference to 'd', it won't know, who has a copy of this
reference and what done to it.
What you could create, is a wrapper around 'd', that passes __getitem__,
__setitem__ and every other required method to the underlying dict and call
the appropriate hook method of A
class WrappedDict:
def __init__(self, owner, d):
self.owner = owner
self.d = d
def __setitem__(self, key, value):
self.owner.dict_changed(key, value)
self.d[key] = value
def __getitem(self, key):
return self.d[key]
And in A.__init__
self.d = WrappedDict(self, {})
You may also subclass WrappedDict from dict...
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Re: Opinions on KYLIX 3 (Delphi 4 Linux)
Thomas Bartkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good question! Wither Borland? My impression (second hand - based on no direct experience with Kylix!) is that Borlands wonderful Delphi product ported to Linux has been a dissapointment. * * * Someone with real experience on Kylix - please jump in here! It has been two or three years since I gave Kylix a try, so my memory is a bit vague on the specifics. I was working in a Delphi shop and wanted to port (at least some of) our apps to Linux using Kylix (I think it was version 3). I think I ported one and a half apps and more or less gave up or put it on the back burner. My impression was that Kylix still wasn't ready for serious development work. The type of application I was working on (porting) involved client/server database access, and TCP communications with other applications. It never really worked correctly (I forget what the problems were just now), but probably could have been made to work correctly. The point was, however, that porting (a relatively simple) Delphi app to Kylix shouldn't have been that hard. Calling Delphi similar to Visual Basic is hurtful because I believe that VB is the product of looting and pillaging the talent that came out of Borland. I'm guessing that Microsoft has successfully targeted this perceived competitor with destruction. If Kylix were of the quality of Delphi, it would be a killer Linux app. Possibly. Unfortunately, I don't believe that the whole GUI building approach of Delphi/Kylix (or other similar tools) is much chop. It encourages one, for instance, to just place elements on the screen in fixed positions that make no allowance for differing fonts, screen resolutions, etc. Java (my experience is with JBuilder) is much better in this regard, although the different paradigm takes some getting used to. However, all GUI builders with which I'm familiar (not many) seem to have very real limitations when it comes to designing very complex interfaces. Kenny Tilton's Cells project (ask on comp.lang.lisp) has set me to thinking along these lines. In the past, I never gave it much consideration. Programmers who like Pascal should look at Ada as a better alternative. If I wanted to program in a Pascal-like language on Linux, Ada (the GNU Gnat compiler, integrated with GCC) is the one that I would use. Ada, you could say, is like Pascal on steroids. Caveat: I've read Ada books, but haven't programmed in it, and my main concern is that its ultra strong typing might get in my way -- or alternatively, force greater rigour, as the Ada folks might say ;-). These days, for hacking about, I prefer Common Lisp. It's faster (sometimes approaching the speed of compiled C/Pascal) and much more powerful than Python, but doesn't have the same library support (smaller community), and application bundling and delivery *can* be a potential problem, depending on various factors (such as whether you want to license a commercial Common Lisp). Also, similar to Python, there is no standard GUI framework defined for Common Lisp, so choosing from the GUI frameworks available can be a challenge (I've only programmed a simple GUI app using the great little Ltk library by Peter Herth, which talks to Tk over a socket). My advice would be to steer clear of Kylix and choose one of the other environments suggested to you. If you really like Pascal, fpc may be a possibility as someone mentioned. I haven't looked into it any time in the last couple of years, though, so I don't know its status. I really would suggest a serious look at Ada, though, if you want to develop fast, industrial strength applications, or take advantage of built-in concurrency support and lots of other goodies. David -- David Trudgett http://www.zeta.org.au/~wpower/ I was in the pub last night, and a guy asked me for a light for his cigarette. I suddenly realised that there was a demand here and money to be made, and so I agreed to light his cigarette for 10 pence, but I didn't actually give him a light, I sold him a licence to burn his cigarette. My fire-licence restricted him from giving the light to anybody else, after all, that fire was my property. He was drunk, and dismissed me as a loony, but accepted my fire (and by implication the licence which governed its use) anyway. Of course in a matter of minutes I noticed a friend of his asking him for a light and to my outrage he gave his cigarette to his friend and pirated my fire! I was furious, I started to make my way over to that side of the bar but to my added horror his friend then started to light other people's cigarettes left, right, and centre! Before long that whole side of the bar was enjoying MY fire without paying me anything. Enraged I went from person to person grabbing their cigarettes from their hands, throwing them to the ground, and stamping on them. Strangely the door staff exhibited no respect for my property rights as they threw me out the door. -- Ian Clarke --
Re: Python IDE
Hmmm.. I've *never* hada problem with SPE crashing.. at least not under Windoze... Regards, Fuzzy http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python Programming Contest
Raymond Hettinger wrote: I'm curious about the stability of your timing setup. If you run your own version of fly.py several times with the same starting seed, how much variation do you see between runs? There is very little variation (about 0.1%) but my solution is over an order of magnitude slower than some of the submissions that I've gotten. It is likely that the overhead of my timing code is significant when running your solution. I may have to *slightly* revise my test code to get better results. I think that I can do so without changing the distribution of the random schedule so as not to be biased against some solutions. Cheers, Brian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Reg file uploading
praba kar enlightened us with: When we upload a file to the remote server we can get file type through file extentions. No you can't, you can only make a better guess. If I name my PNG file somefile.jpg, you won't be able to get the file type through file extentions. How we can find out file type if a file doesn't have any extentions? One method is to look at the Content-type header the client sent along with the file. Another way is through the 'file' command. Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Ordering Products
Kay Schluehr wrote:
Ron Adam wrote:
Kay Schluehr wrote:
BTW.. Usually when people say I don't want to discourage..., They
really want or mean the exact oppisite.
Yes, but taken some renitence into account they will provoke the
opposite. Old game theoretic wisdoms ;)
True.. but I think it's not predictable which response you will get
from an individual you aren't familiar with. I prefer positive
reinforcement over negative provocation myself. :-)
But you seem to fix behaviour together with an operation i.e.
declaring that __mul__ is commutative. But in a general case you
might have elements that commute, others that anti-commute ( i.e. a*b
= -b*a ) and again others where no special rule is provided i.e. they
simply don't commute.
But much worse than this the definition of the operations __add__,
__mul__ etc. use names of subclasses A,D explicitely(!) what means
that the framework can't be extended by inheritance of A,D,M etc.
This is not only bad OO style but customizing operations ( i.e.
making __mul__ right associative ) for certain classes is prevented
this way. One really has to assume a global behaviour fixed once as a
class attribute.
I don't know if it's bad OO style because I chose a flatter model.
Your original question wasn't what would be the best class structure to
use where different algebra's may be used. It was how can sorting be
done to an expression with constraints. And you gave an example which
set __mul__ as associative as well.
So this is a different problem. No use trying to point that what I did
doesn't fit this new problem, it wasn't suppose to. ;-)
I'm not sure what the best class structure would be. With the current
example, I would need to copy and edit F and it's associated sub
class's to create a second algebra type, F2, A2, M2.. etc. Not the best
solution to this additional problem which is what you are pointing out I
believe.
So... We have factors (objects), groups (expressions), and algebras
(rules), that need to be organized into a class structure that can
be extended easily.
Does that describe this new problem adequately? I'm not sure what the
best, or possible good solutions would be at the moment. I'll have to
think about it a bit.
c*3*a*d*c*b*7*c*d*a = (21*a*a*b*c*c*c*d*d)
I still don't see how you distinguish between factors that might
commute and others that don't. I don't want a and b commute but c and
d with all other elements.
In my example factors don't commute. They are just units, however
factors within a group unit may commute because a group is allowed to
commute factors if the operation the group is associated to is commutable.
If you have fun with those identities you might like to find
simplifications for those expressions too:
a*0 - 0 a*1 - a 1/a/b - b/a a+b+a - 2*a+b a/a - 1 a**1 -
a
etc.
Already did a few of those. Some of these involve changing a group into
a different group which was a bit of a challenge since an instance can't
magically change itself into another type of instance, so the parent
group has to request the sub-group to return a simplified or expanded
instance, then the parent can replace the group with the new returned
instance.
a*a*a - a**3 change from a M group to a P group.
a*0 - 0change from a M group to an integer.
a*1 - achange from a M group to a F unit.
a+b+a - 2*a+bchange a A subgroup to a M group.
a/a - change a D group to an integer.
a**1 - change a P group to a M group to a F unit.
Some of those would be done in the simplify method of the group. I've
added an expand method and gotten it to work on some things also.
a*b**3 - a*b*b*b
c*4 - c+c+c+c
What do you mean by 'sub-algebra generation'?
Partially what I described in the subsequent example: the target of
the addition of two elements x,y of X is again in X. This is not
obvious if one takes an arbitrary nonempty subset X of Expr.
Would that be similar to the simultaneous equation below?
z = x+y- term x+y is z
x = a*z+b - z is in term x
x = a(x+y)+b - x is again in x (?)
I think this would be...
x, y = F('x'), F('y')
z = x+y
x = a*z+b
x
(((x+y)*a)+b)
This wouldn't actually solve for x since it doesn't take into account
the left side of the = in the equation. And it would need an eval
method to actually evaluated it. eval(str(expr)) does work if all the
factors are given values first.
Cheers,
Ron
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Re: is a file open ?
luis wrote: for root, dirs, files in os.walk(path): for file in files: # ¿ is opened ? ¡ rtfm ! files is a list of fileNAMEs -- i.e. strings. ¿ How could you possibly imagine that your sample code would open a file? What a design-nonsense that would be: instant complaints from folk who wanted to do some further selection before opening (if they ever wanted to open the files at all). ¿ Did you contemplate *trying* this code to see what happened ? ¡ Don't use file as a name; it shadows the built-in file function ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is a file open ?
luis wrote: for root, dirs, files in os.walk(path): for file in files: # ¿ is opened ? On Linux and some other Unixes, you can probably read the /proc filesystem. On Windows, you'll probably get the quickest result by running handle.exe (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Handle.html). Either way, the information you'll get is restricted by your permissions. Either information will get stale really fast, so it's not suitable if your task is something like 'can I backup this directory or is someone writing to a file?' Daniel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python IDE
On 18 Jul 2005 22:32:43 -0700, linuxfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried SPE and Dr.Pyhton but the former crashes regulary and the latter is quite unweildy and does not have a great many features Hello, what are you missing in DrPython? Did you took a look at the plugins? What do you mean by unweildly? -- Franz Steinhaeusler -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is a file open ?
Daniel Dittmar wrote: luis wrote: for root, dirs, files in os.walk(path): for file in files: # ¿ is opened ? On Linux and some other Unixes, you can probably read the /proc filesystem. On Windows, you'll probably get the quickest result by running handle.exe (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Handle.html). Either way, the information you'll get is restricted by your permissions. Either information will get stale really fast, so it's not suitable if your task is something like 'can I backup this directory or is someone writing to a file?' If that's what the OP had in mind, the question might have been better phrased as given the path to a file, how can I tell if it is currently opened by another process/thread, and better directed to OS-specifc newsgroup(s). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python IDE
On 19 Jul 2005 19:56:49 -0700, Luis M. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried PyCrust? http://sourceforge.net/projects/pycrust/ It is long time ago, that pycrust was delevoped as sourceforge project. It is part of the wxPython distribution and I have recently added some features. You could take a look at wxPython-user mailing list. Pycrust is great to try/play with Python and wxPython. But also DrPython has a powerful shell prompt. -- Franz Steinhaeusler -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: list implementation
Raymond Hettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [sj] Thus, random access is an O(1) operation while insertion/deletion is an O(n) operation. Yes. Unfortunately no. Check Terry Reeds answer. Random access is O(1), insertion/deletion to front is O(n), and i/d to back is O(1). The back i/d operation has amortized O(1) cost. -- Heikki Orsila Barbie's law: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Math is hard, let's go shopping! http://www.iki.fi/shd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OO design
Extremely grateful for all the responses. I've pasted them all into a document and can now read all your valuable ideas together. Even at a first reading they have already helped clarify my thinking. Also minor clarifications:: I'm hoping some of you python lamas out there might be able to share some of your wisdom on the subject. lama = guru = teacher(not a furry animal, although my dog has certainly taught me a few tricks ... like when to take her for a walk, when to play ball, and when its time for a tummy rub.) bwaha be well and happy always -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to send a query to the browser from time to time?
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:43:25 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: otherwise, my only suggestion is to use another protocol instead of http. What do you suggest? -- Thanks, Admin. Want to buy me a book? http://tinyurl.com/78xzb :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: access the text being generated in other windows
algebraist wrote: is there a way python can access the text being generated in other windows, by other programs/processes? my guess- you will probably have to resort to some rather downright dirty screen scraping. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: goto
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Mike Meyer enlightened us with: I dislike gotos because it is too easy to inadvertently create infinite loops. 10 WINK; 20 GOTO 10 And it's impossible without them? while True: pass I thought the same thing, but then I read it again and thought about the inadvertently. As soon as you see a while True, you _know_ it's going to loop forever. Unless it doesn't, of course: while True: break -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Strange os.path.exists() behaviour
Does this work differently under other platforms?
Pierre Quentel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
os.path.exists(path) returns True if path exists
But on Windows it also returns True for path followed by any number of
dots :
Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import os
os.path.exists('Lib/os.py')
True# expected
os.path.exists('Lib/os.py.')
True# unexpected
os.path.exists('Lib/os.py.')
True# unexpected
Is there a reason for this ? Is there a test that returns True only for
the really existing path ?
Pierre
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Re: python certification
hi i bassically need it cuz i am appyling to colleges this year and i know this kind of stuff really helps. besides since i am learning python i thought i might get some credit for it as well. its bassically for a mention in my resume/bio-data/appliccation i am willing to spend about $50-100 but any more is out of my bugdet. even $50 is hard on me. i did find this great site that would let me give a perl exam in $9.99 but they don't have python. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python certification
Hello, Python is not about certificates or diplomas, so do not spend any money on it (the other guy was only joking). If you want to show your python skills to others (like the teachers from the college you want to go to), use this list. Participate in discusions, ask quesions, maybe even write a tutorial. Maybe then they will think: hey, this guy (or girl) is really doing something with his skills. Just an idea, DimitriOn 20 Jul 2005 05:41:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hii bassically need it cuz i am appyling to colleges this year and i know this kind of stuff really helps.besides since i am learning python i thought i might get some creditfor it as well.its bassically for a mention in my resume/bio-data/appliccationi am willing to spend about $50-100 but any more is out of my bugdet. even $50 is hard on me.i did find this great site that wouldlet me give a perl exam in $9.99but they don't have python.--http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.Arthur Schopenhauer -Please visit dimitri's website: www.serpia.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python s60 Contact DB
I have already posted the question to the Nokia forum, but, for now, noone seems to have an answer... Hope this is a bug of py2sis... I dont want to rewrite my entire application for a stupid bug! could ildg ha scritto: You should raise this question at Nokia python for series60 forum, I'm sure you can the answer there. http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=85e4c1acee330fddde6b47a7b2feae73forumid=102 On 19 Jul 2005 06:47:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i hope the expert can help me! I have a little problem: This piece of code, in python console s60, before compiling will work great: try: ..db = contacts.open() ..names = [] ..numbers = [] The problem is that, if i compile it with py2sis (pyrsc_template.tmp replaced with the original to solve the submenus bug) it doesnt work, when that piece of code is executed, i receive error -50 and nothing happen! hope u can help me! 10ks a lot in advance Regards. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
is this pythonic?
Or is there better way? for (i, url) in [(i,links[i]) for i in range(len(links))]: ... links is a list. Mage -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
On 7/20/05, Mage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there better way? for (i, url) in [(i,links[i]) for i in range(len(links))]: for i, url in enumerate(links): -- Cheers, Simon B, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: main window in tkinter app
That does it!, thanks.
Thinking about it, when I created a derived class with an __init__
method, I overrode the base class's init. It should have been
intuitive that I needed to explicitly call baseclass.__init(self), it
wasn't. It might have hit me if the fault was related to someting in
baseclass.__init() not taking place, but the recursion loop didn't give
me a clue. Any idea why failing to init the base class caused the loop?
Bill
Christopher Subich wrote:
William Gill wrote:
O.K. I tried from scratch, and the following snippet produces an
infinite loop saying:
File C:\Python24\lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py, line 1647, in __getattr__
return getattr(self.tk, attr)
If I comment out the __init__ method, I get the titled window, and
print out self.var ('1')
import os
from Tkinter import *
class MyApp(Tk):
var=1
def __init__(self):
pass
def getval(self):
return self.var
app = MyApp()
app.title(An App)
print app.getval()
app.mainloop()
You're not calling the parent's __init__ inside your derived class. I
would point out where the Python Tutorial points out that you should do
this, but it's not in the obvious place (Classes: Inheritance).
Python does -not- automagically call parent-class __init__s for derived
classes, you must do that explicitly. Changing the definition of your
class to the following works:
class MyApp(Tk):
var=1
def __init__(self):
Tk.__init__(self)
pass
def getval(self):
return self.var
It works when you comment out __init__ because of a quirk in Python's
name resolution. As you'd logically expect, if you don't define a
function in a derived class but call it (such as instance.method()), it
will call the method from the base class.
You just proved that this works for __init__ methods also. When you
didn't define __init__ for your derived class, MyApp() called
Tk.__init__(), which Does the Right Thing in terms of setting up all the
specific Tkinter-specific members.
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Re: socket programming
What I have done in similar circumstances is put in a random sleep between connections to fool the server's load manager. Something like: .import time .min_pause,max_pause = (5.0, 10.0) #seconds .while True: . time.sleep(random.uniform(min_pause, max_pause)) . do_connection_and_query_stuff() It works for me. Just play with the pause parameters until it fails and add a little. -- George -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python IDE
You should probably stick with Xemacs. I use VIM, but I would be surprised if Xemacs doesn't have those features you want. Also, it's probably better to learn one editor well than a little bit of a bunch of different editors. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How do I send keystrokes to a console window in Windows XP?
Thank you, Peter. The application is a continuously running interactive program and we want to automatically interact with it (e.g. sendkeys and capture certain text responses). I will look for the thread you mentioned. - Roy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to kill easygui dialog?
William, Thanks for the reply. No flames, but I am running on both Linux and Windows, so I need a x-platform solution. I thought I had it with easygui... Must try some other ideas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: socket programming
* gry@ll.mit.edu gry@ll.mit.edu [2005/07/20 15:26]: What I have done in similar circumstances is put in a random sleep between connections to fool the server's load manager. Something like: .import time .min_pause,max_pause = (5.0, 10.0) #seconds .while True: . time.sleep(random.uniform(min_pause, max_pause)) . do_connection_and_query_stuff() It works for me. Just play with the pause parameters until it fails and add a little. thanks for the tip. i'll give that a shot. -- Helge Aksdal -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
getting the class name of a subclass
I have the following test code setup, trying to get the class name of a subclass in the super class. (Reason why i want this is described below) file class_name_start.py import class_name as cn obj = cn.B() obj.printclass() file class_name.py class A(object): def __init__(self): print I'm A def printclass(self): print Name ,__name__ print Class ,A.__name__ class B(A): def __init__(self): super(B,self).__init__() print I'm B Output: I'm A I'm B Name class_name Class A I would want the last line to be Class B The reason i want this is since i have a number of dialogs all deriving from the same super class. In the superclass i have a save function and i thought it would be easy to get the classname and write the properties in a filename with the classes name as the filename. However it turns out i get the class name of the superclass for all. All the different dialogs are in seperate files. Is there a way to get the name of the subclass. If not i could always pass a param to the init function but in my real life code i already have several params shipped to the init so i wanted to solve it slightly more elegant. Regards, Benedict -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python certification
Python is not about certificates or diplomas, so do not spend any money on it (the other guy was only joking). Even if Python is not about certificates, I think it's not the case for some company. And when you say to a company that you know how to dev. in Python, they don't know anything about your level. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to kill easygui dialog?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William, Thanks for the reply. No flames, but I am running on both Linux and Windows, so I need a x-platform solution. I thought I had it with easygui... Must try some other ideas Can you post an example... the following works for me... import easygui while 1: ... rv = easygui.enterbox() ... if rv: ... print Done ... break ... ... Done -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python certification
Fine, Go to http://www.pythonchallenge.com and try the challenge, if you are able to get to the level 17-18, you can say you start to have good skills in Python. You will prove: you are not stupid, you know regex, basic sound/image treatment, the basics of zip/bz2, you understood how to use urllib/urllib2 and xmlrpc and many other things. When you get to the level 17-18, go to the IRC and ask to theSamet a certification. If he is in a good mood, maybe he will give you an ascii-art diplom like Rocco! ;-) Cyril On 20 Jul 2005 05:41:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hii bassically need it cuz i am appyling to colleges this year and i know this kind of stuff really helps.besides since i am learning python i thought i might get some creditfor it as well.its bassically for a mention in my resume/bio-data/appliccationi am willing to spend about $50-100 but any more is out of my bugdet. even $50 is hard on me.i did find this great site that wouldlet me give a perl exam in $9.99but they don't have python.--http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Crafting IP packets with DNS queries .........newbie
hi all im looking for some code that can capture the IP packets from my system and craft them so that im able to put lots of DNS requests in them and send them to the server. is it possible and will the DNS server takes it for legal DNS request packets?? and should i need to incorporate some code at the server end to decode the packets from my machine and encode the results from the DNS?? is all this possible ? first of all i want to know to craft some IP packets in python with loads of DNS queries in them.. regards laksh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wxPython field validation
Hi all, I'm using wxPython and I need to block the cursor (focus) in a TextCtrl until the field value is valid. I've look EVT_KILL_FOCUS but I can't stop the focus beavoir (no focus to next field) Any ideas? Tanks a lot and sorry for my english. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python certification
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 04:22:10PM +0200, Fabien wrote: Python is not about certificates or diplomas, so do not spend any money on it (the other guy was only joking). Even if Python is not about certificates, I think it's not the case for some company. And when you say to a company that you know how to dev. in Python, they don't know anything about your level. Well, that's what CVs, project histories and interviews are about. Asking for certification in Python (and propably for any other programming language) usually only shows that the person who asks doesn't have a clue what they are asking about ;) (These are the people look for Pearl and Pyhton programmers ;) ) Andreas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Windows command line problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the lesson there is 'dont depend on getopt, write your own command line parser'. I always write my own, as it's so easy to do. While I'll agree that getopt isn't ideal, I find optparse to be much better. -- Benji York -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python certification
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: hi i bassically need it cuz i am appyling to colleges this year and i know this kind of stuff really helps. besides since i am learning python i thought i might get some credit for it as well. its bassically for a mention in my resume/bio-data/appliccation i am willing to spend about $50-100 but any more is out of my bugdet. even $50 is hard on me. i did find this great site that would let me give a perl exam in $9.99 but they don't have python. Before you spend some of your few money for an obscure certification without any authority you should feel certain that you need Python at your college. Better you participate in an open source project for fun and gathering some experience if it's not too hard for you to access a computer. Of course I don't know your supervisors and I'm not sure whether they are more impressed about people learning the Python tutorial, than about people using it to write real world applications. Kay -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python certification
Andreas Kostyrka schrieb: (These are the people look for Pearl and Pyhton programmers ;) ) Or Phyton :) Kay -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: getting the class name of a subclass
flupke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the following test code setup, trying to get the class name of a subclass in the super class. (Reason why i want this is described below) file class_name_start.py import class_name as cn obj = cn.B() obj.printclass() file class_name.py class A(object): def __init__(self): print I'm A def printclass(self): print Name ,__name__ print Class ,A.__name__ class B(A): def __init__(self): super(B,self).__init__() print I'm B Output: I'm A I'm B Name class_name Class A I would want the last line to be Class B The reason i want this is since i have a number of dialogs all deriving from the same super class. In the superclass i have a save function and i thought it would be easy to get the classname and write the properties in a filename with the classes name as the filename. However it turns out i get the class name of the superclass for all. All the different dialogs are in seperate files. Is there a way to get the name of the subclass. If not i could always pass a param to the init function but in my real life code i already have several params shipped to the init so i wanted to solve it slightly more elegant. Regards, Benedict Make printclass a class method: class A(object): def __init__(self): print I'm A # for python 2.4 @classmethod def printclass(cls): print Module, cls.__module__ print Class, cls.__name__ # for 2.3 or older printclass = classmethod(printclass) Regards, George -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: getting the class name of a subclass
George Sakkis wrote: snip Make printclass a class method: class A(object): def __init__(self): print I'm A # for python 2.4 @classmethod def printclass(cls): print Module, cls.__module__ print Class, cls.__name__ # for 2.3 or older printclass = classmethod(printclass) Regards, George George, it works like a charm. Thanks! Benedict -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython field validation
why not validate then put cursor back into that field until satisfied. might use the lost focus (cant remember exact name right now) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: getting the class name of a subclass
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:06:57 GMT, flupke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: file class_name.py class A(object): def __init__(self): print I'm A def printclass(self): print Name ,__name__ print Class ,A.__name__ Why A.__name__ and not self.__class__.__name__? Regards, Dan -- Dan Sommers http://www.tombstonezero.net/dan/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does :: mean?
Hi Robert,
I didn't succeed in reversing a string with the full form you
proposed:
live[len(live)-1:-1:-1] # where live=live
The result is an empty string.
To reverse live (in a full form), I have to put a char in front of
the string and...:
('x'+live)[len(live)+1:0:-1] # -- evil
Is it due to the Python's version (I still have 2.3.4)?
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Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
I have a program that shows a 3d representation of a cell, depending on some data that it receives from some C++. It runs with wx.timer(500), and on wx.EVT_TIMER, it updates the the data, and receives it over the socket. In my program I also want to be able to rotate the 3d representation, and can do so, and all the code works. However, I have a problem in that while the program is updating itself (pretty much all the time unless I tell it not to), it won't detect mouse motion, I'm guessing because it doesn't have time to. Is there any manual way to get a program to check for mouse movement, that way I'd be able to check for mouse movement half way through my updating the data over the socket, and then do the necessary rotations before it finishes updating the data. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does :: mean?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Robert,
I didn't succeed in reversing a string with the full form you
proposed:
live[len(live)-1:-1:-1] # where live=live
The result is an empty string.
To reverse live (in a full form), I have to put a char in front of
the string and...:
('x'+live)[len(live)+1:0:-1] # -- evil
Is it due to the Python's version (I still have 2.3.4)?
No, it's because I am stupid. There isn't a full form.
live[len(live)::-1] is the closest expansion.
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Re: Image orientation and color information with PIL?
Jeff, this was exactly what I was looking for. I wrote a script with this code and it worked perfectly. Thanks Ty -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ANN: PyDev 0.9.6 released
Hi All, PyDev - Python IDE (Python Development Enviroment for Eclipse) version 0.9.6 has just been released. This is to be considered a stable release for all features but the debugger, as there are still some integration issues for it to work with Eclipse 3.1, so, if you are using PyDev because of its debugger support, you should stick to version 3.0.x until those issues are fixed. Check the homepage (http://pydev.sourceforge.net/) for more details. The major release highlights is that it Eclipse 3.1 is now supported. Older versions of Eclipse are no longer supported. Regards, -- Fabio Zadrozny -- Software Developer ESSS - Engineering Simulation and Scientific Software www.esss.com.br PyDev - Python Development Enviroment for Eclipse pydev.sf.net pydev.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
convert ascii escapes into binary form
Hi Pythonistas, I need to convert ascii escapes into binary form, e.g.: \f - ^L [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ (rvalues in terminal representation) Any idea, how to do this most elegantly in python? Do I really need to do a search n'replace orgy, combined with regex for this task? TIA, Pete -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python certification
On 16 Jul 2005 09:51:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i want to get a small certificate or diploma in python. it should be online cuz i live in pakistan and wont have teast centers near me. it should be low cost as i am not rich. and hopefully it would be something like a a begginer certification cuz i am new to python. I could make a program, upload it to sourceforge (or similar OSS repository) and add that to your resume. Another opcion is to help in the development of any python-based program and work enought to be included in the authors list. That could be useful too (because you learn and do some good for more people). I believe more in a working program than a paper based certificate. -- a href=http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=24672t=1;La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer/a -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie question: Explain this behavior - a followup
max wrote: David Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: range statements, the example doesn't work. Given that the beginning and ending values for the inner range statement are the same, the inner range statement will never be Is your question about the semantics of for else blocks or about the suitability of the algorithm given in the example? The for else block is behaving exactly as expected... Good question. The question was directed at the latter, the suitability of algorithm for determining prime numbers. range(1,1) [] range(500,500) [] see http://groups- beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_frm/thread/d6c084e791a00 2f4?q=for+elsehl=en for a good explanation of when the else part of the loop is executed. Basically, whenever the loop is exited normally, which is what happens when you iterate over an empty list like the one returned by range(1,1) max -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
Hello, I have to parse a text file (was excel, but I translated to CSV) like the one below, and I am not sure how to store it (to manipulate it later). Here is an extract of the data: Name,Allele,RHA280,RHA801,RHA373,RHA377,HA383 TDF1,181, ,188, ,190, ,193,*,*,,, ,None,,,*,*,* ,, TDF2,1200,*,*,,,* ,None,,,*,*, ,, TDF3,236, ,240, ,244,*,,*,,* ,252,*,*,,, ,None*, ,, Should I use lists? Dictionary? Or a combination? The final goal is to count how many stars (*) has any LINE (a line is RHA280 for instance). RHA280 has 1 star in TDF1 and 1 star in TDF2 and 2 stars in TDF3. I am lost because I do analize the data line by line (for Line in FILE) so it is hard to count by column. -- a href=http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=24672t=1;La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer/a -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: convert ascii escapes into binary form
Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
Hi Pythonistas,
I need to convert ascii escapes into binary form, e.g.:
\f - ^L
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]@
(rvalues in terminal representation)
Any idea, how to do this most elegantly in python?
Do I really need to do a search n'replace orgy, combined with
regex for this task?
In [11]: s = '\\f'
In [12]: s.decode('string_escape')
Out[12]: '\x0c'
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Re: main window in tkinter app
William Gill wrote:
That does it!, thanks.
Thinking about it, when I created a derived class with an __init__
method, I overrode the base class's init. It should have been
intuitive that I needed to explicitly call baseclass.__init(self), it
wasn't. It might have hit me if the fault was related to someting in
baseclass.__init() not taking place, but the recursion loop didn't give
me a clue. Any idea why failing to init the base class caused the loop?
You never pasted the first part of the traceback:
File pyshell#204, line 1, in -toplevel-
app.title('frob')
File C:\Python24\Lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py, line 1531, in wm_title
return self.tk.call('wm', 'title', self._w, string)
File C:\Python24\Lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py, line 1654, in __getattr__
return getattr(self.tk, attr)
File C:\Python24\Lib\lib-tk\Tkinter.py, line 1654, in __getattr__
return getattr(self.tk, attr)
When you didn't call Tk.__init__(self), self.tk was never initialized.
Further, it's obvious from the traceback that Tk implements a
__getattr__ method; from the python docs:
__getattr__(self,name): Called when an attribute lookup has not found
the attribute in the usual places
Since self.tk doesn't exist, __getattr__(self,tk) was called. Without
looking at the TKinter source code, we can surmise that there's a
default behavior of if self doesn't have it, return the relevant
attribute from within self.tk. The problem, of course, arises when
self.tk doesn't exist -- this causes the self.tk reference to call
self.__getattr__('tk'), which is recursive.
The infinite recursion, then, is a mild bug in TKinter that doesn't show
itself during normal use. The proper solution should be to replace the
self.tk call with either self.__dict__['tk'], or to make Tk a new-style
class and use object.__getattribute__(self,'tk'). (Note: there are
probably some fine details that I'm missing in this 'solution', so take
it with a potato-sized grain of salt. The general principle still
applies though.)
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Re: Newbie - chapter 19 in How to think like a CS in python
Well, being a lowly CS student myself this sounded like fun, so I went ahead and took the challenge. The first thing you have to consider is how to add the new element to the list. Obviously you have to iterate through the list, find the first element that the new one is greater than, and insert this one before it while keeping the list structure intact. You must also remember to update the head if necessary, and add at the end if the element to be added is less than what is already in the list...So this is what I came up with: First of all, however, add this to your Improved Queue Class- def printQueue(self): if(self.isEmpty()): print Empty else: pointer = self.head while(pointer != None): print str(pointer.cargo) pointer = pointer.next Then-- class PriorityQueueList(ImprovedQueue): def __init__(self): ImprovedQueue.__init__(self) def insert(self, cargo): newNode = Node(cargo) if self.length == 0: self.head = self.last = newNode else: #iterate through the list, keeping a reference to a node and the node before it tracker = self.head while(tracker !=None): copy2 = tracker.prev if(newNode.cargo tracker.cargo): #add the new node by updating links, then update head while keeping list intact tracker.prev = newNode newNode.next = tracker self.head = newNode newNode.prev = copy2 if(copy2 !=None): copy2.next = newNode break else: tracker = tracker.next #if a repeat element is added #we want to add to end to preserve the queue structure, thus if the element hasn't #been added at this point it should be added at the end if(newNode.prev ==None and newNode.next ==None): last = self.last last.next = newNode self.last = newNode self.length = self.length + 1 This produces the following output- l = PriorityQueueList() l.insert(1) l.insert(2) l.insert(1) l.printQueue() 2 1 1 l.insert(10) l.printQueue() 10 2 1 1 Hope this helps! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need to interrupt to check for mouse movement
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Re: How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
Sebastian Bassi wrote:
Hello,
I have to parse a text file (was excel, but I translated to CSV) like
the one below, and I am not sure how to store it (to manipulate it
later).
Here is an extract of the data:
[snip]
This looks a lot like 2D data (row/column), not 3D. What's the third
axis? It looks, too, that you're not really interested in storage, but
in analysis...
Since your line columns all have names, why not use them as keys in a
dictionary? The associated values would be lists, in which you could
keep references to matching rows, or parts of those rows (e.g. name and
allele). Count up the length of the row, and you have your number of
matches.
import csv # let Python do the grunt work
f = file('name-of-file.csv')
reader = csv.reader(f)
headers = reader.next() # read the first row
line_names = headers[2:]
results = {}# set up the dict
for lname in line_names:# each key is a line-name
results[lname] = []
for row in reader: # iterate the data rows
row_name, allele = row[:2]
line_values = row[2:] # get the line values.
# zip is your friend here. It lets you iterate
# across your line names and corresponding values
# in parallel.
for lname, value in zip(line_names, line_values):
if value == '*':
results[lname].append((row_name, allele))
# a quick look at the results.
for lname, matches in results.items():
print '%s %d' % (lname, len(matches))
Graham
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Re: Using SHFileOperation
SHFILEOPSTRUCT is just a tuple, with the elements listed in docs. from win32com.shell import shell, shellcon shell.SHFileOperation((0, shellcon.FO_DELETE, 'somefilename', None, shellcon.FOF_ALLOWUNDO|shellcon.FOF_NOCONFIRMATION)) hth Roger avishay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, I want to use SHFileOperation using Python and Win32 extentions, in order to move a file to the trash can. The function itself can be accessed by importing win32com.shell.shell. However, I cannot find anywhere the SHFILEOPSTRUCT. This structure is mentioned in the documentation of the Win32 extentions, but I can't find a way to access it. I would appreciate your help. If there's an alternative way to send a file to the trash can, that can also help. Best Regards Avishay == Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News== http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups = East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption = -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
On 20 Jul 2005 10:47:50 -0700, Graham Fawcett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks a lot like 2D data (row/column), not 3D. What's the third axis? It looks, too, that you're not really interested in storage, but in analysis... I think it as 3D like this: 1st axis: [MARKER]Name, like TDF1, TDF2. 2nd axis: Allele, like 181, 188 and so on. 3rd axis: Line: RHA280, RHA801. I can have a star in MarkerName TDF1, Allele 181 and Line RHA280. I can have an empty (o none) in TDF1, Allele 181 and Line RHA801. What I like to know is what would be a suitable structure to handle this data? thank you very much! -- a href=http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=24672t=1;La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer/a -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: convert ascii escapes into binary form
Robert Kern wrote:
Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
Hi Pythonistas,
I need to convert ascii escapes into binary form, e.g.:
\f - ^L
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]@
(rvalues in terminal representation)
Any idea, how to do this most elegantly in python?
Do I really need to do a search n'replace orgy, combined with
regex for this task?
In [11]: s = '\\f'
In [12]: s.decode('string_escape')
Out[12]: '\x0c'
That did the trick, thanks a lot, Peter. Unfortunately, on the
target system, there's still python 2.0 running :-( Looks like
I've to bite the apple..
Pete
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Re: access the text being generated in other windows
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EasyDialogs in MacOSX Tiger
When I use EasyDialogs.Message in OSX (10.4.2), I have to manually switch to Python, the icon for which jumps in the dock until I click it. This is the case using pythonw with either 2.3 or 2.4. This question has come up before (EasyDialogs module problem with python 2.4.1, April 18/05), and the answer that was give then was One application is active at any point in time, and this application controls the menu, has its windows displayed, and so on. So when the Terminal.app is active, Python cannot be. However, this is new behaviour. Wen I used EasyDialogs in earlier versions of OSX (10.3 and 10.2) this did not happen; the EasyDialogs dialog box popped up at once with no further interaction required. Unless MacOSX has changed its use of active applications, then, I think this explanation isn't correct. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to make EasyDialogs work the way it used to in OS 10.3? Ian -- Ian York ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.panix.com/~iayork/ -but as he was a York, I am rather inclined to suppose him a very respectable Man. -Jane Austen, The History of England -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OO design
On Wednesday 20 July 2005 07:22 am, chris wrote: Also minor clarifications:: I'm hoping some of you python lamas out there might be able to share some of your wisdom on the subject. lama = guru = teacher(not a furry animal, although my dog has certainly taught me a few tricks ... like when to take her for a walk, when to play ball, and when its time for a tummy rub.) Ah, of course. My mistake. ;-) -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
On 20 Jul 2005 10:47:50 -0700, Graham Fawcett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # zip is your friend here. It lets you iterate # across your line names and corresponding values # in parallel. This zip function is new to me, the only zip I knew was pkzip :). So will read about it. -- a href=http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=24672t=1;La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer/a -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Printing a variable's name not its value
Hey,
I am trying to write a function that takes an arbitrary number of
arguments and does one of two things. If the variable is a key in a
dictionary, it prints the key and its value. Otherwise, if any of the
variables isn't in the dictionary, the function prints the variable's
name and value.
Here is what I have so far:
globals = {}
HOME_DIR = The user's home directory
SHELL = The user's shell
def someFunction():
someString = This is a test
globals[VERBOSE] = True
globals[HOME_DIR] = os.getenv(HOME)
globals[SHELL] = os.getenv(SHELL)
printVerbose(someString, HOME_DIR, SHELL)
def printVerbose(*args):
if VERBOSE in globals:
for a in args:
value =
if a in globals:
value = globals[a]
#else
#a = a.__name__
#value = a
print %s: %s % (a, value)
This prints something like this:
The user's home directory: /home/tspencer
The use's shell: zsh
But what I would like it to print is this:
The user's home directory: /home/tspencer
The use's shell: zsh
someString: This is a test
I've been told on #python that there isn't a way to get a variable's
name. I hope this isn't so. If it helps, I am trying to do something
like what the C preprocessor's # operator does.
TIA.
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Re: How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
Sebastian Bassi wrote:
On 20 Jul 2005 10:47:50 -0700, Graham Fawcett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This looks a lot like 2D data (row/column), not 3D. What's the third
axis? It looks, too, that you're not really interested in storage, but
in analysis...
I think it as 3D like this:
1st axis: [MARKER]Name, like TDF1, TDF2.
2nd axis: Allele, like 181, 188 and so on.
3rd axis: Line: RHA280, RHA801.
I can have a star in MarkerName TDF1, Allele 181 and Line RHA280.
I can have an empty (o none) in TDF1, Allele 181 and Line RHA801.
Okay. I think what will drive your data-structure question is the way
that you intend to use the data. Conceptually, it will always be 3D, no
matter how you model it, but trying to make a 3D data structure is
probably not what is most efficient for your application.
If 90% of your searches are of the type, 'does TDF1/181/RHA280 have a
star?' then perhaps a dict using (name,allele,line) as a key makes most
sense:
d = {('TDF1',181,'RHA280'):'*', ...}
query = ('TDF1', 181, 'RHA280')
assert query in d
Really, you don't need '*' as a value for this, just use None if you
like, since all the real useful info is in the keyspace of the dict.
If you're always querying based on line first, then something like my
earlier 'results' dict might make sense:
d = {'RHA280':[('TDF1',181), ...], ...}
for name, allele in d['RHA280']:
if allele == 181: # or some other query within
RHA280
...
You get the idea: model the data in the way that makes it most useable
to you, and/or most efficient (if this is a large data set).
But note that by picking a structure like this, you're making it easy
to do certain lookups, but possibly harder (and slower) to do ones you
hadn't thought of yet.
The general solution would be to drop it into a relational database and
use SQL queries. Multidimensional analysis is what relational DBs are
for, after all. A hand-written data structure is almost guaranteed to
be more efficient for a given task, but maybe the flexibility of a
relational db would help serve multiple needs, where a custom structure
may only be suitable for a few applications.
If you're going to roll your own structure, just keep in mind that
dict-lookups are very fast in Python, far more efficient than, e.g.,
checking for membership in a list.
Graham
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Re: Printing a variable's name not its value
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Re: How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
On 20 Jul 2005 11:51:56 -0700, Graham Fawcett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You get the idea: model the data in the way that makes it most useable to you, and/or most efficient (if this is a large data set). I don't think this could be called a large dataset (about 40Kb all the file). It would be an overkill to convert it in MySQL (or any *SQL). I only need to parse it to reformat it. May I send the text file to your email and a sample of the needed output? It seems you understand a lot on this topic and you could do it very easily (I've been all day trying to solve it without success :( I know this is not an usual request, but this would help me a lot and I would learn with your code (I still trying to understand the zip built-in function, that seems useful). -- a href=http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=24672t=1;La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer/a -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wxPython wxGlade
Hello! Is there a way to span columns using wxGlade? I'd like to get a layout that looks like this: |---| ||-||--|| ||edit ||button|| ||-||--|| ||-|| || button|| ||-|| |---| I would like the 2nd button on the 2nd row to span to the 2nd column. I've been able to span rows and columns using wxGridBagSizer, but wxGlade does not seem to offer this type of sizer. Is this layout visibly possible using wxGlade? Thank you for your time. -- Mike L.G. http://www.mahalosoft.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OO design
chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been scripting with python for a while now. Basically writing a few functions and running in the ipython shell. That's been very useful. But the more I do this the more I see that I'm doing more or less the same thing over and over again. So its feels like I need to get into class programming with all its attendant benefits. However my biggest problem is a conceptual one. I just can't get my head around defining suitable classes, how they aquire data and communicate with each other. I'm hoping some of you python lamas out there might be able to share some of your wisdom on the subject. Just some thoughts about it: What I basically do is a lot of the following:: 1. get arbitrary numerical data (typically large data sets in columnar format or even via COM from other packages. I generally have to deal with one or more sets of X,Y data) You may create a class for each data format that reads that data and creates a set from it. 2. manipulate the data (scaling, least squares fitting, means, peaks, add/subtract one XY set from another etc) This methods may either manipulate youe set's data or create a new set with the data 3. plot data (original set, results of manipulation, scatterplot, histograms etc - I use matplotlib) I never useds matplotlib. Maybe it's usefull to have one or more classes covering the functions you need. 4. export data (print, csv, shelve) Again have a class for each output format. I have no problem writing bits of functional code to do any of the above. But for the life of me I can't see how I can hook them altogether in an OO based framework that I can build and extend (with more data formats, manipulations, GUI etc). When I think about what I should do I end up with a class XY that has a method for everything I want to do eg. class XY: def read_file def scale_data def plot_data def shelve_data But somehow that doesn't feel right, especially when I expect the number of methods will grow and grow, which would make the class very unwieldy. Even if that was a legitimate option, I don't understand conceptualy how I would, for example, plot two different XY objects on the same graph or add them together point by point. How do two different XY objects communicate Have a look at the IntervalSet module someone announced here some time before to get some ideas. and how do you deal with the thing that they must have in common (the plot screen for example). Create classes for this things. Then you may either pass XY to method of Thing or the Thing to a method of XY. Florian -- begin signature_virus Hi! I'm a signature virus. Please copy me to your signature to help me spread. end -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python IDE
linuxfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got going with python...and i must say its a pretty cool language. Been using Xemacs to write me programs. But I want an IDE that would I'm using GNU emacs give me auto-completion, Read the manual about tags and abbrevs Emacs Language Sensitive Editor (ELSE) http://www.zipworld.com.au/~peterm looks interesting too. online help python-mode has C-c C-h for py-help-at-point and the like... Tried SPE and Dr.Pyhton but the former crashes regulary and the latter is quite unweildy and does not have a great many features. I quite like the UML feature found in SPE but the damn thing crashes way too often. What are you guys using and what do you think is the best IDE...or should i stick with Xemacs/emacs??? I don't like specialized IDE's as I'm using different languages and don't want to switch my editor for them. Florian -- begin signature_virus Hi! I'm a signature virus. Please copy me to your signature to help me spread. end -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Printing a variable's name not its value
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Hey,
I am trying to write a function that takes an arbitrary number of
arguments and does one of two things. If the variable is a key in a
dictionary, it prints the key and its value. Otherwise, if any of the
variables isn't in the dictionary, the function prints the variable's
name and value.
Here is what I have so far:
globals = {}
globals() is a builtin function, you should no shadow it.
HOME_DIR = The user's home directory
SHELL = The user's shell
def someFunction():
someString = This is a test
globals[VERBOSE] = True
globals[HOME_DIR] = os.getenv(HOME)
globals[SHELL] = os.getenv(SHELL)
printVerbose(someString, HOME_DIR, SHELL)
- printVerbose(HOME_DIR, SHELL, someString=someString)
def printVerbose(*args):
def printVerbose(*args, **kwargs):
if VERBOSE in globals:
for a in args:
if a in globals:
value = globals[a]
for k, v in kwargs:
print %s: %s % (k, v)
(snip)
I've been told on #python that there isn't a way to get a variable's
name. I hope this isn't so.
It is so. In fact, there is nothing like a 'variable' in Python. What we
have are names bound to objects. Names 'knows' what objects are bound to
them, but objects knows *nothing* about names they are bound to.
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Re: How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
The question of the type of the data sutructure depends of your use of the data.
You could avoid some confusion without naming your columns lines...
Anyway, here is a piece of code that read the file and count the star on the fly:
(The result is a dict of dict of int.)
-
import itertools
import csv
f = open(toto.data) #change your file name
lineReader = csv.reader(f)
#Set the lines titles (RHA280, etc)
l = lineReader.next()
linesTitles = l[2:]
#We construct the data structure and count the stars on the fly
datas = {}
for l in lineReader:
name, allele = l[:2]
if not allele: #empty line
continue
if name: #new block defining a TD*
currentName = name
d = dict.fromkeys(linesTitles, 0)
datas[currentName] = d
lines = l[2:]
#add 1 to the lines not empty (= with a star)
for title, value in itertools.izip(linesTitles,lines):
if value:
d[title] += 1
#little tests
print datas
print datas[TDF1][RHA280]
print datas[TDF3][RHA280]
-
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Re: How to store 3D data? (data structure question)
On 7/20/05, Cyril Bazin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question of the type of the data sutructure depends of your use of the data. You could avoid some confusion without naming your columns lines... Yes, that is because they are plant lines, that is why is called lines :) Anyway, here is a piece of code that read the file and count the star on the fly: (The result is a dict of dict of int.) THANK YOU, I will check it out! -- a href=http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=24672t=1;La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer/a -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Printing a variable's name not its value
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
globals = {}
globals() is a builtin function, you should no shadow it.
Oh, woops. I'll fix that.
def printVerbose(*args, **kwargs):
if VERBOSE in globals:
for a in args:
if a in globals:
value = globals[a]
for k, v in kwargs:
print %s: %s % (k, v)
Perfect. Thanks for the pointer.
I've been told on #python that there isn't a way to get a variable's
name. I hope this isn't so.
It is so. In fact, there is nothing like a 'variable' in Python. What we
have are names bound to objects. Names 'knows' what objects are bound to
them, but objects knows *nothing* about names they are bound to.
OK. This seems like it might take some getting used to. Thanks again
for the help.
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Re: Printing a variable's name not its value
Simon Dahlbacka wrote: as you have been told, there is no way to get a variable's name, take a look at http://effbot.org/zone/python-objects.htm to find out why this is so. Thanks, Simon, for the link. -- Regards, Travis Spencer -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
Wow, I didn't know about enumerate. Many thanks Caleb On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:19:50 +0200, Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/20/05, Mage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there better way? for (i, url) in [(i,links[i]) for i in range(len(links))]: for i, url in enumerate(links): -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
mod_python Apache/2.0.52 (Win32) Python 2.4
Hi there, I am wondering if there is a mod_python for the above configuration. I downloaded mod_python-3.1.3.win32-py2.3.exe, which of course as the name implies keeps on asking me for a python 2.3 installation. I imagine one could cheat a little bit with a fake registry entry that says it was about python 2.3 but that points to python 2.4. Then again I don't know what entry mod_python's installer is looking for. Thanks for your help Dieter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Lots of pdf files
Hello- I'm running Python 2.3 on a Linux system and have lots (about 2000) files in pdf format to print each day. If I just wind up and fire all the files at the printer at once (as 2000 separate print jobs), the print server throws a fit and our system admin comes down and slaps me around for a few minutes (which, I guess, is fair). There does not appear to be a simple way to merge many pdf's into one. I could, for example, merge all of the files for a particular provider into one pdf for that provider and then print it (or, better yet...encrypt it and ship it!), but I do not see a way. Any suggestions? As it stands now, I'm printing sending 200 files, waiting until the queue is clear, then another 200, and so forth. Eventually we will be paperless (if for no other reason this seems insane to me), but what can I do in the meantime? Thanks for your help! --greg -- Greg Lindstrom 501 975.4859 (office) Senior Programmer501 219-4455 (fax) NovaSys Health [EMAIL PROTECTED] Little Rock, Arkansas We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. W.W. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6
Hi, Is it possible ? ex: return ['1','2'] If so which type should I use in VB ? dim res as ??? Set testObj = CreateObject() res = testObj.AMethodThatReturnsAListOfStrings() Thanks, Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython wxGlade
basically, you can just stack an outer vertical box sizer with two items and in the upper slot you put a horizontal box sizer with your two buttons and in the bottom slot you put the big button hope this helps /Simon ps. as this is a wxpython related question, you might get better answers on the wxpython mailinglist (but afaik, this is the way this particular thing is done). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: convert ascii escapes into binary form
Hi Robert, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote: Robert Kern wrote: That did the trick, thanks a lot, Peter. Unfortunately, on the s/Peter/Robert/g Sorry, Robert. That's the price to pay for doing multiple replies at the same time. Mea culpa.. target system, there's still python 2.0 running :-( Looks like I've to bite the apple.. Pete -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: is this pythonic?
On 7/20/05, Bill Mill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/20/05, Simon Brunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/20/05, Mage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is there better way? for (i, url) in [(i,links[i]) for i in range(len(links))]: for i, url in enumerate(links): +2 for creating seeing a need and crafting a reasonable solution, but -1 for not reading the section on builtins to see if it existed already. -1 for me for not reading over my email before sending. creating seeing should be seeing. Peace Bill Mill bill.mill at gmail.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: returning list of strings from Python COM to Visual basic 6
Sorry, it was in the book: Variant ! Regards; Philippe Philippe C. Martin wrote: Hi, Is it possible ? ex: return ['1','2'] If so which type should I use in VB ? dim res as ??? Set testObj = CreateObject() res = testObj.AMethodThatReturnsAListOfStrings() Thanks, Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Printing a variable's name not its value
Simon Dahlbacka wrote: as you have been told, there is no way to get a variable's name Well, if you really want to, you can get all the names bound to a given object: def get_names(obj): g = globals() names = [] for name in g: if g[name] is obj: names.append(name) return names Then you can play around: list1 = [] list2 = [list1] get_names(list2) ['list2'] list3 = list2 get_names(list2) ['list3', 'list2'] get_names(1) [] a = 1 get_names(1) ['a'] b = 1 get_names(1) ['a', 'b'] get_names(a) ['a', 'b'] c = 4/3. d = 4/3. get_names(c) ['c'] get_names(d) ['d'] get_names(4/3.) [] But I wouldn't do it. If I want a name to be attached to some objects, I usually include it as a member/property of my class. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Lots of pdf files
Greg Lindstrom wrote: There does not appear to be a simple way to merge many pdf's into one. Program pdftk can merge pdf's, but I have never tried it. You may also use pdflatex --- there is a package called pdfpages provides powerful command \includepdf. w. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Printing a variable's name not its value
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: def printVerbose(*args, **kwargs): if VERBOSE in globals: for a in args: if a in globals: value = globals[a] for k, v in kwargs.iteritems(): print %s: %s % (k, v) Perfect. Thanks for the pointer. Well, almost perfect ;) -- Regards, Travis Spencer -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
