On 30 Sep 2005 05:23:35 -0700, Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's not easy if the base classes change after you check your code in.
You shouldn't need to know about that if it happens. Modularity, remember?
Yes. And if you are relying
I have the following form :
form action=/auction/create/ method=postplabel
for=auction_createdCreated/labelbr //p
plabel for=auction_userUser/labelbr /input id=auction_user
name=auction[user] size=30 type=text value= //p
plabel for=auction_auction_titleAuction title/labelbr /input
Ivan Shevanski wrote:
To continue with my previous problems, now I'm trying out classes. But I
have a problem (which I bet is easily solveable) that I really don't get.
The numerous tutorials I've looked at just confsed me.For intance:
class Xyz:
... def y(self):
... q = 2
Joseph Chase wrote:
When I go and view the inserted record, the record exists, but the field
values are null. It is my thinking that the backend needs the id value
for each input value; how do I add that data to the urlencode() call?
since the id isn't part of the form data set:
Efrat Regev wrote:
Hello,
I'm a data-structures course TA trying to write a python CGI script
for automatically compiling and testing students' projects.
Unfortunately, I've run into some questions while writing this, which I
couldn't solve with the various (and helpful)
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Joseph Chase wrote:
When I go and view the inserted record, the record exists, but the field
values are null. It is my thinking that the backend needs the id value
for each input value; how do I add that data to the urlencode() call?
since the id isn't part of the
Efrat,
I am afraid a CGI script is never *executed* by the browser. Instead, it sends
the URL to a server, expects the server to execute the script, and display the
server's response. If you just put a file name then (it seems, I never even
tried that) Firefox uses the local file store as a
Thank you for testing
Indeed it is very interesting :-)
I've had some problems with my ports forwarding and no-ip.org.
Here is then the new address :
http://artyprog.dyndns.org:8080
Regards
Betwise, I live in France so the site is close when i'am at work
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I would like to test it, but as soon as I try to execute an example my
browser is guided to connect to 192.168.0.40. First off it is an
non-routeable address and secondly my own too. :))) May be you have to
fix your setup another time.
Best regards,
Oliver
2 Oct 2005 03:40:50 -0700, [EMAIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) writes:
I decided to read this thread today, and I still don't know exactly
what your requirements are for private whatevers. No one seems to
have discussed what you could do with properties and __getattribute__
and metaclasses and decorators, yet there are
You are perfectly right ;-)
And I've been a network technician !!!
I've modified the address, thank you for testing
Regards
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It doesn't work yet, to me...
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 08:44:48 +0200, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Jesse Rosenthal wrote:
If I end this with 'connection.interact()', I will end up logged in to the
forwarding server. But what I really want is to go on and run rsync to
localhost port 2022, which will forward to my_server port 22. So,
AFAIK there isn't. You could browse through this
http://starship.python.net/crew/tmick/ to get an idea on how to kill on
both platforms.
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I'm putting gtkhtml2.View() inside a gtk.ScrolledWindow, which goes into a
gtk.Dialog.vbox.
How do I obtain gtkhtml2.View's preferred height, and set the dialog's
height accordingly, given a specific width?
I can do a gtk.Dialog.set_default_size() up front, specifying the width and
height
Xah Lee wrote:
[snip]
(they tried, with their limited implementation of lambda and
shun it like a plaque)
Can't say I've heard that expression before...
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hi..
i'm not a python developer, but i have a few questions regarding python
(some quite basic), and bittorrent. i'm looking to talk to someone/anyone
who has experience with the infrastructure of bittorrent, not just running a
bittorrent client app...
the bittorrent mailing lists/groups haven't
A non-python programming friend of mine has said that any programs made
with Python must be distributed with, or an alternative link, to the
source of the program.
Is this true?
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Jason wrote:
A non-python programming friend of mine has said that any programs made
with Python must be distributed with, or an alternative link, to the source of
the program.
Is this true?
no.
the license is here:
http://www.python.org/doc/Copyright.html
Python is absolutely
Lucas Raab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Xah Lee wrote:
[snip]
(they tried, with their limited implementation of lambda and
shun it like a plaque)
Can't say I've heard that expression before...
Burns: I'm afraid it's not that simple. As punishment for your
Jason wrote:
A non-python programming friend of mine has said that any programs made
with Python must be distributed with, or an alternative link, to the
source of the program.
Is this true?
Sorta, but not really. Typically, you might distribute the source (.py)
files, but if you
the license is here:
http://www.python.org/doc/Copyright.html
Python is absolutely free, even for commercial use (including
resale). There is no GNU-like copyleft restriction.
except that the current license is (no longer?) linked from that page.
the current license is here:
Hi.
I use Idle 1.1.1 on Python 2.4.1.
The Ctrl-[ and Ctrl-] key bindings for indenting do not work on
non-us keyboards where brackets are accessed by the Alt Gr key.
The Tab key seem to work for indenting a selected textblock on my
swedish keyboard, but Shift-tab does not dedent as you would
This looks very cool, and i'm sure it's in early stages of
development (it crashed firefox 1.07 on osx). A question or two.
In the button click example, when I got there, it said I had clicked
17 times, though I had not clicked.
Is the application reinitialized on load?
Is it just a
Thanks everyone for helping me out and tolerating the noob question =D The
last part was confusing to me and thanks for explaining it so I get it!
-Ivan
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1) Something that fixes the broken name mangling in the current
system, but still doesn't try to defeat intentional unmangling.
Currently, if you have a class with the same name as one of its
superclasses, the name mangling can fail even its existing purpose of
preventing accidental
As you said this is in early stage 0.1-alpha-alpha :-)
I'm not the author of this interesting piece of work it is Tim Stebbing
I only wanted to share Tim's work.
Don't hesitate to contact him on the nufox mailin list
It runs on top of twisted-nevow.
Indeed for now the application is not
Forum commuication is easier, and I've just started a new forum and
would like to invite all of you to sign up and post there. I'm still
looking for moderators and anyone who will help out. If you are
intersted: www.wizardsolutionsusa.com -- follow the forum link.
Remember it doesn't take but a
Tor Erik Sønvisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (TES) wrote:
TES When using select, what exactly will trigger an output-event? I have
TES a socket registered in the output-list of the select but an
TES output-event is never generated for that socket. I know the socket is
TES ready to send data, so how can I
Jeff Schwab wrote:
Sorta, but not really. Typically, you might distribute the source (.py)
files, but if you don't want to do that, you can distribute the
compiled .pyc files instead. Python creates these files automatically
when your modules are imported.
But remember that Python bytecode
Bengt Richter wrote:
I decided to read this thread today, and I still don't know exactly
what your requirements are for private whatevers.
No name collision in subclassing. Notice that even if you use
self._x = 3
in a parent class, it can be overriden in a sub-sub-class accidentally.
Or
Leif K-Brooks wrote:
But remember that Python bytecode can be easily decompiled with a
publicly-available program.
I hope it is not considered too antisocial to bring it up here, but
there is always PyObfuscate:
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~astrand/projects/pyobfuscate/
-Steve Bergman
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bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if there's anyone here that i could talk with (phone) who's knowledgable
about these areas, i'd appreciate it. i'm trying to get a much better
understanding of the actual underlying app.
There's a #bittorrent irc channel on irc.freenode.net. Try there.
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I got a loop like this:
while True:
line = sys.stdin.readline()
if not line:
break
line = line.rstrip()
log_message(options.channel_name, line)
print line
this loop will read text if I execute it from a command prompt like this:
dir
Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen wrote:
I got a loop like this:
snip
Ok, I've found some information. I don't like the answer but it doesn't
seem to be any good way to do this without hacking it one way or the other.
If someone has a brilliant answer that isn't in google yet, please let
me know.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote at 2-10-2005 19:00:23:
Forum commuication is easier, and I've just started a new forum and
would like to invite all of you to sign up and post there.
I don't agree with you, I like news-commuication. It's more free than
forum use.
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with kind regards / met
El Pitonero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python's lack of Java-style private surely has its drawback: name
collisions can happen. But, that's just one side. Name collisions are
allowed in many dynamic languages, where you can override the default
system behavior (in some languages, you can
A non-python programming friend of mine has said that any programs made
with Python must be distributed with, or an alternative link, to the
source of the program.
Yes, and you must also include a blank sheet, signed by you in blood.
Seriously, whatever the license of Python itself is, a
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Monu Agrawal wrote:
Hi I am making a gui based tool. When user preses a perticular button I
am running a heavy command, before this I want to say user to wait with
a image showing infront of her.
My code is like:
def loadData(self):
top=Toplevel(self.parent)
Wouter van Ooijen (www.voti.nl) wrote:
Yes, and you must also include a blank sheet, signed by you in blood.
I thought you only had to do that if you were submitting a patch to
MySQL, Qt, OpenOffice, or OpenSolaris. ;-)
-Steve Bergman
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El Pitonero schrieb:
The fact that you can override Python's list() function can be either
viewed as pro or con. The fact that you can override member variables
can also be viewed as pro or con.
If there is a tool like pyChecker, which can detect such pitfalls and
warns but not forbidds -
X-Ftn-To: Paul F. Dietz
Paul F. Dietz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a similar example: I've been told by various women independently,
that there are more babies born near a full moon.
That's also a myth.
Perhaps not, consider deamon or vampire babies.
:)
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My mod_python 3.1.4 installation works when Apache 2.0.54 is run in
standalone mode (apache -k standalone) but refuses to operate when run
as a service (apache -k restart).
Logs yield the usual and well-known make_obcallback: could not import
mod_python.apache error. I have tried PYTHONHOME,
Here's one case where it's bad to call update.
def perform_longrunning_calculation():
time.sleep(1)
app.update()
time.sleep(1)
suppose you kick this off with a keybinding, such as:
app.bind(c, lambda e:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, the point is that it's something that you can check for by
examining the class in question without having to examine any other
classes.
That's a pretty restrictive convention to follow.
What convention? It just makes it possible to write code
My mod_python 3.1.4 installation works when Apache 2.0.54 is run in
standalone mode (apache -k standalone) but refuses to operate when run
as a service (apache -k restart).
Logs yield the usual and well-known make_obcallback: could not import
mod_python.apache error. I have tried PYTHONHOME,
Xah Lee wrote:
as i have hinted
( http://xahlee.org/perl-python/list_comprehension.html ), the
so-called List Comprehension is just a irregular syntax to facilitate
generating lists. The name is a terrible jargon, and the means is also
quite fucked up. The proper name should be something
Bugs wrote:
- I had an old ActiveState python24.dll in \windows\system32 which I
deleted. That must've been left over from a 2.4.1 ActiveState
installation which I had installed then uninstalled sometime ago.
- I then uninstalled Python 2.4.2 and re-installed it for all users.
After that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's one case where it's bad to call update.
def perform_longrunning_calculation():
time.sleep(1)
app.update()
time.sleep(1)
would it be advisable to guard against this with something like this?
def
Hi !
On the site of Amber : http://xamber.org/index.html
We can to view the sentence : Parrot version of Python
Question : what is Parrot version of Python ?
@-salutations
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can anybody write a code for a program that reads from a
/location/file according to file contents, it execute script. e.g. if
file contains mp it runs media player.
I hope the code is small .. plz help me out!
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Hello Everybody,
I've read a pipe and store it in a object.
My next step was the separation from 4 bytes with
obj = string.join(list(dataObject)[:4] == '\x16 \x00 \x00 \x00'
and the converting by
value = struct.unpack('I', obj) generated the error
unpack str size does not match format
FX wrote:
can anybody write a code for a program that reads from a
/location/file according to file contents, it execute script. e.g. if
file contains mp it runs media player.
I hope the code is small .. plz help me out!
You might be interested in the FileInfo class, defined and thoroughly
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, the point is that it's something that you can check for by
examining the class in question without having to examine any other
classes.
That's a pretty restrictive convention to follow.
What
g.franzkowiak wrote:
I've read a pipe and store it in a object.
My next step was the separation from 4 bytes with
obj = string.join(list(dataObject)[:4] == '\x16 \x00 \x00 \x00'
and the converting by
value = struct.unpack('I', obj) generated the error
unpack str size does not match format
Michael wrote:
List comprehensions get their name (AFAICT) very clearly from set
comprehensions in mathematics. As a result anyone who has ever seen
a set comprehension in maths goes oooh, I see. They're not the same, but
IMO they're close enough to warrant that name.
fwiw, they've also been
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, it's a discussion of why a certain feature might be useful, not
that it's required. Mike Meyer points out some reasons it might be
hard to do smoothly without changing Python semantics in a deep way
(i.e. Python 3.0 or later).
Actually, I
FX [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
can anybody write a code for a program that reads from a
/location/file according to file contents, it execute script. e.g. if
file contains mp it runs media player.
I hope the code is small .. plz help me out!
open URL: http://www.mired.org/downloads/ will use
I am contemplating getting into Python, which is used by engineers I
admire - google and Bram Cohen, but was horrified to read
no variable or argument declarations are necessary.
Surely that means that if I misspell a variable name, my program will
mysteriously fail to work with no error
would it be advisable to guard against this with something like this?
def perform_longrunning_calculation():
if not app.busy:
app.busy = 1
[...]
By using that kind of construct, instead of using update_idletasks(),
you force all code to be aware of and manage the app.busy
James A. Donald wrote:
I am contemplating getting into Python, which is used by engineers I
admire - google and Bram Cohen, but was horrified to read
no variable or argument declarations are necessary.
Surely that means that if I misspell a variable name, my program will
mysteriously fail
James A. Donald wrote:
I am contemplating getting into Python, which is used by engineers I
admire - google and Bram Cohen, but was horrified to read
no variable or argument declarations are necessary.
Surely that means that if I misspell a variable name, my program will
mysteriously fail
Wow, never even occured ot me someone would have a problem with this!
But, this might help:
http://www.logilab.org/projects/pylint
In more detail:
Surely that means that if I misspell a variable name, my program will
mysteriously fail to work with no error message.
No, the error message
Hi Guys,
I've been used to deploying code to the production server by checking
out of subversion and manually sorting out any kinks. (yes, I know, it
sounds primitive)
I realize I'm losing so much time I could spend more productively. I'd
therefore like to know the different approaches you guys
hi everybody,
i planinng develop a search engine and i think using the python. Python
performance is enough this project?
Best Regards
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Fredrik Lundh schrieb:
g.franzkowiak wrote:
I've read a pipe and store it in a object.
My next step was the separation from 4 bytes with
obj = string.join(list(dataObject)[:4] == '\x16 \x00 \x00 \x00'
and the converting by
value = struct.unpack('I', obj) generated the error
unpack str size
Do Re Mi chel La Si Do wrote:
Hi !
On the site of Amber : http://xamber.org/index.html
We can to view the sentence : Parrot version of Python
Question : what is Parrot version of Python ?
Parrot is a virtual machine runtime, like the java vm or .NET CLR.
http://www.parrotcode.org/
Well, Google applies some Python in their implementation, see
http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html
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Alex wrote:
Thanks for the replies. It seems that I have three options
1. app=MyApp()
2. app=MyApp(0)
3. app=MyApp('myfile.txt')
I just want to emphasize the part of vincent's reply in which he points
out that using the keyword arguments makes this more readable.
If more examples and actual
Hi. Is anyone aware of any python based unacceptable language filter
code to scan and detect bad language in text from uploads etc.
Many thanks.
David
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The easiest way to avoid this problem (besides watching for NameError
exceptions) is to use an editor that has automatic name completion.
Eric3 is a good example. So, even though in theory it could be an
issue, I rarely run into this in practice.
-Don
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g.franzkowiak wrote:
tmpList = list(dataObject)[:4])
obj = tmpList[0]+tmpList[1]+tmpList[2]+tmpList[3].
Have you tried just
obj = dataObject[:4]
without the intermediate list? If that failed, can you tell us the type of
the dataObject? E. g.
print type(dataObject)
class
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
...
fwiw, they've also been around for ages:
http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?list+comprehension
(the name goes back to the early eighties, the construct is older than
that)
Ahh... Fair enough. I hadn't come across it as a programming construct until
I
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:05:53 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
I just don't understand your point here. Yes, you can do all those
things and leak any variable. However, if you want to NOT leak some
particular variable, private lets you code in a way that lets you
easily confirm that you didn't leak
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:57:29 -0700, FX wrote:
can anybody write a code for a program that reads from a
/location/file according to file contents, it execute script. e.g. if
file contains mp it runs media player.
I hope the code is small .. plz help me out!
There are lots of people who can
corebump [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hi everybody,
i planinng develop a search engine and i think using the python. Python
performance is enough this project?
If you're going to do the heavy lifting in Python, maybe. It depends
on what you're going to search, and the performance requirements
yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Guys,
I've been used to deploying code to the production server by checking
out of subversion and manually sorting out any kinks. (yes, I know, it
sounds primitive)
Actually, it sounds like your test/development environment is
primitive. There shouldn't be
If it can helps you ABC is a (good) bittorent client written in py.
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Mike Meyer wrote:
corebump [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hi everybody,
i planinng develop a search engine and i think using the python. Python
performance is
James A. Donald:
Surely that means that if I misspell a variable name, my program will
mysteriously fail to work with no error message.
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:11:13 -0400, Jean-François Doyon
No, the error message will be pretty clear actually :)
Now why, I wonder, does this loop never
yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I realize I'm losing so much time I could spend more productively. I'd
therefore like to know the different approaches you guys employ to
deploy builds from your staging servers (or laptops:) to the production
server in an automated repeatable safe manner.
This
James A. Donald wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:11:13 -0400, Jean-François Doyon
James A. Donald:
Surely that means that if I misspell a variable name, my program will
mysteriously fail to work with no error message.
No, the error message will be pretty clear actually :)
Now why, I wonder,
is there any forum writen by python like vbb...phped
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Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What convention? It just makes it possible to write code with some
specific invariants if there's a need to do so.
That you don't pass private variables to a function unless it's a builtin.
No, I don't see that as convention, it's just something that
Paul Rubin wrote:
I'm not
sure what Guido saw in the A if C else B syntax but it's not a big deal.
Maybe Guido's done some perl programming on the side? When I've been doing
perl programming I've quite liked the if (...); construct, however, on
occasion it's been desirable to have an else
See the documentation for the __init__() method here
http://www.wxpython.org/docs/api/wx.App-class.html
Btw, this is wxPython 2.6, AFAIK.
/Jean Brouwers
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David Pratt wrote:
Hi. Is anyone aware of any python based unacceptable language filter
code to scan and detect bad language in text from uploads etc.
Many thanks.
David
You might be able to adapt languagetool.
http://www.danielnaber.de/languagetool/features.html
Later versions have
Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
James A. Donald wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:11:13 -0400, Jean-Francois Doyon
James A. Donald:
Surely that means that if I misspell a variable name, my program will
mysteriously fail to work with no error message.
No, the error message will be
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The philosophy of dynamic languages like Python is that the class designer
shouldn't be the only one who decides whether or not a particular variable
should be private or public.
I don't see that as part of the philosophy of dynamic languages. For
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, I think that the semantic changes required to make private
do what you want are deep enough that the resulting language
wouldn't be Python any longer. It has deep implications from the
interpeter implementation all the way out to the design of the
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Compile-time restrictions don't matter for squat - you need
serious restrictions on what the program can do at runtime.
You need both.
Yup. Any language besides Java even *try* to provide both for a
production environment?
Yes. Python tried. It
Is there a faster way to decode from charmaps to utf-8 than unicode()?
I'm writing a small card-file program. As a test, I use a 53 MB MBox
file, in mac-roman encoding. My program reads and parses the file into
messages in about 3..5 seconds, but takes about 13.5 seconds to iterate
over the
Is gtk.TextView.move_mark_onscreen() broken? Perhaps only in Python's
gtk module, in Python 2.3, gtk 2.4.14? I'm asking here because I'm
using gtk from Python and don't want to write a C program to verify my
issue. I've also tried gtk.TextView.scroll_to_mark() and
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What convention? It just makes it possible to write code with some
specific invariants if there's a need to do so.
That you don't pass private variables to a function unless it's a builtin.
No, I don't see
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Compile-time restrictions don't matter for squat - you need
serious restrictions on what the program can do at runtime.
You need both.
Yup. Any language besides Java even *try* to provide both for a
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd say CPython was missing the features that you need to guarantee
that. Missing quite a *lot* of features, in fact. But Python has never
been about keeping people from writing bad code - it's about helping
people write good code.
Privilege separation is
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Which brings me to my point. Rather than trying to bandage Python to
do what you want - and what, based on this thread, a lot of other
people *don't* want - you should be building a system from the ground
up to
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd say CPython was missing the features that you need to guarantee
that. Missing quite a *lot* of features, in fact. But Python has never
been about keeping people from writing bad code - it's about helping
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:42:49 -0400, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, it's a discussion of why a certain feature might be useful, not
that it's required. Mike Meyer points out some reasons it might be
hard to do smoothly without changing
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Privilege separation is considered a good coding practice. How does
Python help it?
With conventions and name mangling. Which are only slightly less
effective than the C++/Java technic for doing the same thing.
That's not what privilege separation
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