Leipzig Python User Group - Meeting, December 12, 2006, 8:00pm

2006-12-10 Thread Mike Müller
= Leipzig Python User Group = Next Meeting Tuesday, December 12, 2006 We will meet on December 12 at 8:00 pm at the training center of Python Academy in Leipzig, Germany

ANN: 4Suite XML 1.0.1

2006-12-10 Thread Uche Ogbuji
4Suite XML 1.0.1 is now available from Sourceforge and ftp.4suite.org. Thanks to all the testers, there are a number of important fixes and improvements since 1.0, and we recommend upgrade from all previous versions. Changes include: * Fixed error handling the interactive Python sys.path entry

New York City Python Users Group meeting is planned for Dec. 12th @ 6pm - please RSVP!

2006-12-10 Thread John Clark
Greetings! The next New York City Python Users Group meeting is this Tuesday, Dec. 12th, 6pm at at the Millennium Partners office at 666 Fifth Avenue on the 8th Floor. We welcome all those in the NYC area who are interested in Python to attend. However, we need a list of first and last names to

Quake 3 and the Python interpreter

2006-12-10 Thread Neil Toronto
So I've recently had a stroke of insanity, deciding that what the open-source Quake III engine *really* needs is a good, healthy dose of Python. Here's the quick version: The Q3 engine is split into the engine (responsible for rendering, sound, networking, input, and collision detection) and

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-10 Thread Kaz Kylheku
Steven D'Aprano wrote: I'd love to say it has been fun, but it has been more frustrating than enjoyable. I don't mind an honest disagreement between people who Honest disagreement requires parties who are reasonably informed, and who are willing not to form opinions about things that they have

Re: Automatic debugging of copy by reference errors?

2006-12-10 Thread Carl Banks
Russ wrote: If a debugger could tell you how many references exist to an object, that would be helpful. import sys sys.getrefcount(a) But I doubt it would be very helpful. Carl Banks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-10 Thread Paul Rubin
Alex Mizrahi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PR I don't see how to implement coroutines with CL macros. Maybe I'm PR missing something. read the book. Which book? but once you convert it to CPS, you just operate with closures. stack is just a lexical variables caught into closure. do you

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-10 Thread Kaz Kylheku
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, having read a lot of this thread, I can see one of the reasons why the software profession might want to avoid lispies. With advocacy like this, who needs detractors? And thus your plan for breaking into the software profession is ... to develop Usenet advocacy

Re: Newbie Question - Checkboxes

2006-12-10 Thread John Machin
Leanne wrote: I have been using Python for only a few months part-time and have recently had my first encounter with retrieving user input from checkboxes. I have a problem with the way Python reads the input values from a set of checkboxes on a webpage. The values assigned to the

Re: Automatic debugging of copy by reference errors?

2006-12-10 Thread Carl Banks
Niels L Ellegaard wrote: Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Niels L Ellegaard wrote: I have been using scipy for some time now, but in the beginning I made a few mistakes with copying by reference. But copying by reference is the way Python works. Python never

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-10 Thread Kaz Kylheku
Paul Rubin wrote: Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisp just seems hopelessly old-fashioned to me these days. A modernized version would be cool, but I think the more serious Lisp-like language designers have moved on to newer ideas. What are some of their names, and what ideas

alternate language

2006-12-10 Thread Bryan
what is a good alternate language to learn? i just want something to expand my mind and hopefully reduce or delay any chance of alzheimer's. i would especially like to hear from those of you who learned python _before_ these languages. haskell, erlang, ocaml, mozart/oz, rebel, etc. i don't

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-10 Thread Paddy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Python has to rely more on using the right algorithm... This sound familiar: Macros are dangerous! Yes. I changed my opinion on advocating Python having macros in one of our long threads on the subject. Maintainance counts. Compilers make you lazy. This is new to

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-10 Thread Kay Schluehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I find it amusing that most of the arguments that python-people are making in this thread are actually the arguments that C++ and Java make against Python. Who needs dynamic typing?, Who needs closures?, The idea of using whitespace for syntax is beyond stupid...