Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 16)

2009-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
QOTW: The promise is 'batteries included.' Nobody promised you a nickel metal hydride battery that you can use as a replacement in your Prius. - Stephen J. Turnbull http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2009-November/094014.html Google's new language, Go, has similarities to

Re: faster than list.extend()

2009-11-17 Thread Hyunchul Kim
Thank Tim, Raymond, and all. In my test, Tim's t1 was fastest and Raymond's triple3 is very near to Tim's t1. Anyway both of them took only 6~7% time of my original .extend() version. I think that following n_ple() is a good generalized function that was 1~3% slower than t1() and triple3() for

Re: Python Go

2009-11-17 Thread Donn
On Saturday 14 November 2009 22:23:40 Paul Rubin wrote: they'll have to call it Go2 Lol. Or we could fork it and call it Gosub ... and never return! \d -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Get attribute this way

2009-11-17 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
King schrieb: eval can solve this problem right away but I am concerned about security issues. If not eval could you suggest something more efficient way. It won't be a big deal to change the format as application is still at development stage? If you don't want to use eval (which is a good

Re: Get attribute this way

2009-11-17 Thread Carl Banks
On Nov 16, 11:37 pm, King animator...@gmail.com wrote: eval can solve this problem right away but I am concerned about security issues. If not eval could you suggest something more efficient way. It won't be a big deal to change the format as application is still at development stage? You

Re: ZipFile - file adding API incomplete?

2009-11-17 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Glenn Maynard schrieb: I want to do something fairly simple: read files from one ZIP and add them to another, so I can remove and replace files. This led me to a couple things that seem to be missing from the API. The simple approach would be to open each file in the source ZIP, and hand it

Accessing a Web server --- how?

2009-11-17 Thread Virgil Stokes
If one goes to the following URL: http://www.nordea.se/Privat/Spara%2boch%2bplacera/Strukturerade%2bprodukter/Aktieobligation%2bNr%2b99%2bEuropa%2bAlfa/973822.html it contains a link (click on Current courses NBD AT99 3113A) to:

TODO and FIXME tags

2009-11-17 Thread Yasser Almeida Hernández
Hi all.. Sorry if this question sound elemental. How is the sintaxis for set the TODO and FIXME tags...? Thanks -- Lic. Yasser Almeida Hernández Center of Molecular Inmunology (CIM) Nanobiology Group P.O.Box 16040, Havana, Cuba Phone: (537) 271-7933, ext. 221

Re: A different take on finding primes

2009-11-17 Thread Tobiah
Let me be clear, given 2min, how many primes can you find, they need not be in order or consecutive. Do they have to go from low to high? :( ) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Logic operators with in statement

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Brodie
Mr.SpOOn mr.spoo...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.492.1258380560.2873.python-l...@python.org... In [13]: ('b3' and '5') in l or ('3' and 'b3') in l Out[13]: True For anything more than the simplest cases, you might want use sets. That might be the correct data type from the start,

Please recommend the books that might be helpful to learn Python :)

2009-11-17 Thread Psi
as the subject says, any books? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Accessing a Web server --- how?

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Virgil Stokes v...@it.uu.se wrote: If one goes to the following URL: http://www.nordea.se/Privat/Spara%2boch%2bplacera/Strukturerade%2bprodukter/Aktieobligation%2bNr%2b99%2bEuropa%2bAlfa/973822.html it contains a link (click on Current courses NBD AT99 3113A)

Re: TODO and FIXME tags

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Rebert
2009/11/16 Yasser Almeida Hernández pedro...@fenhi.uh.cu: Hi all.. Sorry if this question sound elemental. How is the sintaxis for set the TODO and FIXME tags...? There is no special syntax for those. Some people use them in comments, but it's just a convention. Cheers, Chris --

Re: Create object from variable indirect reference?

2009-11-17 Thread jhermann
On 10 Nov., 17:03, NickC reply...@works.fine.invalid wrote: Many thanks for the replies.  getattr() works great: You can get a little more versatile and even specify the location of the name (i.e. the module / package name) without pre-importing it, like this... def importName(modulename,

Re: TODO and FIXME tags

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com writes: 2009/11/16 Yasser Almeida Hernández pedro...@fenhi.uh.cu: How is the sintaxis for set the TODO and FIXME tags...? There is no special syntax for those. Some people use them in comments, but it's just a convention. This is true. However, the convention

Re: Get attribute this way

2009-11-17 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
King a écrit : Python's getattr, setattr and __getattribute__ commands s/commands/functions/ works fine with python types. For example: print o.__getattribute__(name) A very few corner cases set aside - the main one being inside a custom __getattribute__ method -, you should not directly

Re: overriding __getitem__ for a subclass of dict

2009-11-17 Thread Steve Howell
On Nov 16, 10:11 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 16, 10:32 am, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 16, 2:35 am, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 15, 2:52 pm, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote: Does anybody have any links that

Re: faster than list.extend()

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Otten
Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:30:27 -0300, Hyunchul Kim hyunchul.mail...@gmail.com escribió: I want to improve speed of following simple function. Any suggestion? ** def triple(inputlist): results = [] for x in inputlist: results.extend([x,x,x])

YIELD_VALUE Byte Code

2009-11-17 Thread Andreas Löscher
Hi, I am not sure if this is the right newsgroup, so if not don't hesitate to tell me. I am developed a Python to C compiler, so that Byte Code files automatically can be translated into C Extension Modules. (And it works pretty well -- http://www.coremountains.com/products/bytecoat/) While

Re: Unexpected python exception

2009-11-17 Thread Andreas Löscher
Hi, unfortunatley I cannot reproduce your error. Which Python Version do you use? The expected case in this scenario is that the exception is thrown, as you import os in A() where it is stored in the local namespace of the function. I tested it with Python 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6 and in both cases an

Re: Unexpected python exception

2009-11-17 Thread Andreas Löscher
Python searches for Variables not only in local or global scoop but also in __builtins__. If you do something like __builtins__.os = os, than this variable should be accessible global. If you then write something like: def B(): os.stat(/) import os Python recognises on compile

Re: TODO and FIXME tags

2009-11-17 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Ben Finney wrote: Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com writes: 2009/11/16 Yasser Almeida Hernández pedro...@fenhi.uh.cu: How is the sintaxis for set the TODO and FIXME tags...? There is no special syntax for those. Some people use them in comments, but it's just a convention. This is true.

Re: Calling Python functions from Excel

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Withers
Cannonbiker wrote: Hi, unfortunately is my question about server COM (win32com) http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/ee804cec7f58c6a7# without answer. Please I need Calling Python functions from Excel and receive result back in Excel. Can me somebody advise

Re: Logic operators with in statement

2009-11-17 Thread Mr.SpOOn
Thanks everybody for all the answers and explanations. In the end maybe it is simpler if I use sets for these tests. Thanks again. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Stefan Behnel
Robert P. J. Day, 15.11.2009 15:44: On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, mrholtsr wrote: I am absolutely new to python and barely past beginner in programming. Also I am not a mathematician. Can some one give me pointers for finding the 1000th. prime for a course I am taking over the internet on

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

2009-11-17 Thread Aaron Watters
I don't think Python and Go address the same set of programmer desires.  For example, Go has a static type system.  Some programmers find static type systems to be useless or undesirable.  Others find them extremely helpful and want to use them them.  If you're a programmer who wants a

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread me
Read the OP. No, read it again. sturlamolden wrote: On 16 Nov, 11:39, sturlamolden sturlamol...@yahoo.no wrote: If you are fine with Microsoft only, you can use Windows Forms with MS Visual Studio and IronPython. I also forgot to mention: If you can restrict yourself to Windows, you can

XML root node attributes

2009-11-17 Thread Slafs
Hi I'm little confused about adding attributes to the root node when creating an XML document. Can I do this using minidom or something else. I can't find anything that would fit my needs. i would like to have something like this: ?xml ... ? root a=v b=v2 c=v3 d ... /d /root Please

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

2009-11-17 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Aaron Watters aaron.watt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think Python and Go address the same set of programmer desires.  For example, Go has a static type system.  Some programmers find static type systems to be useless or undesirable.  Others find them

Re: ZipFile - file adding API incomplete?

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Angel
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedGlenn Maynard schrieb: I want to do something fairly simple: read files from one ZIP and add them to another, so I can remove and replace files. This led me to a couple things that seem to be missing from the API.

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Carsten Haese
Stefan Behnel wrote: Robert P. J. Day, 15.11.2009 15:44: On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, mrholtsr wrote: I am absolutely new to python and barely past beginner in programming. Also I am not a mathematician. Can some one give me pointers for finding the 1000th. prime for a course I am taking over the

Re: XML root node attributes

2009-11-17 Thread Stefan Behnel
Slafs, 17.11.2009 15:19: I'm little confused about adding attributes to the root node when creating an XML document. Can I do this using minidom or something else. Yes, you /can/, but you /should/ use something else. I can't find anything that would fit my needs. i would like to have

RE: XML root node attributes

2009-11-17 Thread Matt Mitchell
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Re: Please recommend the books that might be helpful to learn Python :)

2009-11-17 Thread silvercl
On Nov 17, 7:18 am, Psi kev0...@gmail.com wrote: as the subject says, any books? This is one of the good books available on the internet... http://diveintopython.org/ I myself liked this book very much (to start with). Also, on the website, on the right-hand-side it mentions about other books.

ast manipulation

2009-11-17 Thread Tsize
Hello, I am hoping for a little help. I have been playing with the python ast module and have run into an issue that I need a little push on. I would like to be able to change a specific element in a specific node in an ast then compile the resulting ast. Consider the simplified example below

Re: overriding __getitem__ for a subclass of dict

2009-11-17 Thread Scott David Daniels
Steve Howell wrote: ... Eventually, I realized that it was easier to just monkeypatch Django while I was in test mode to get a more direct hook into the behavior I was trying to monitor, and then I didn't need to bother with overriding __getitem__ or creating complicated wrapper objects

Re: Accessing a Web server --- how?

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Angel
Virgil Stokes wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedIf one goes to the following URL: http://www.nordea.se/Privat/Spara%2boch%2bplacera/Strukturerade%2bprodukter/Aktieobligation%2bNr%2b99%2bEuropa%2bAlfa/973822.html it contains a link (click on Current courses NBD

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Scott David Daniels
me wrote: I have looked at the Tk stuff that is built into Python - not acceptable. Such insightful analysis, and it is _so_ helpful in stating your needs. [a lot of guff about unacceptable things] What Python gui builder is well supported, does not require me to learn another

Re: Language mavens: Is there a programming with if then else ENDIF syntax?

2009-11-17 Thread sjm
On Nov 16, 12:54 pm, Steve Ferg steve.ferg.bitbuc...@gmail.com wrote: snip Does anybody know a language with this kind of syntax for ifThenElseEndif? Modern-day COBOL: IF some-condition do-something ELSE do-something-else END-IF. The period is also meaningful as a

RE: New syntax for blocks

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Saxton
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:27:31 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Congratulations, you just reinvented one of the most infamous source of bugs in C, C++, Java, PHP, javascript and quite a few other languages. Believe it or not, but not allowing this in Python was a very deliberate design choice.

Time travel

2009-11-17 Thread Lee Merrill
I'm seeing an anomaly in the python time function on March 9, 2008 (the spring foward time): time.mktime((2008, 3, 9, 2, 59, 59, 0, 0, -1)) 1205049599.0 time.mktime((2008, 3, 9, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1)) 1205046000.0 Does anyone have an idea as to what might cause a 4000 seconds backwards jump on

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Himanshu
2009/11/15 mrholtsr mrhol...@gmail.com: I am absolutely new to python and barely past beginner in programming. Also I am not a mathematician. Can some one give me pointers for finding the 1000th. prime for a course I am taking over the internet on Introduction to Computer Science and

Re: ZipFile - file adding API incomplete?

2009-11-17 Thread Scott David Daniels
Glenn Maynard wrote: I want to do something fairly simple: read files from one ZIP and add them to another, so I can remove and replace files. This led me to a couple things that seem to be missing from the API. zip.write() only takes the filename and compression method, not a ZipInfo;

Re: Time travel

2009-11-17 Thread Lee Merrill
And I can't do arithmetic, it is actually about 3600--never mind! On Nov 17, 10:37 am, Lee Merrill lee_merr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm seeing an anomaly in the python time function on March 9, 2008 (the spring foward time): time.mktime((2008, 3, 9, 2, 59, 59, 0, 0, -1)) 1205049599.0

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

2009-11-17 Thread Paul Boddie
On 17 Nov, 14:48, Aaron Watters aaron.watt...@gmail.com wrote: ... and I still have an issue with the whole Python is slow meme.  The reason NASA doesn't build a faster Python is because Python *when augmented with FORTRAN libraries that have been tested and optimized for decades and are

Re: SCGIServer and unusal termination

2009-11-17 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Eden Kirin wrote: Hi there, I'm playing with SCGIServer (http://vmlinux.org/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/python-scgi/guide.html), everything works just fine, but one thing bothers me. All prints after try-except block are executed twice after the Ctrl+C is pressed! test.py:

Re: overriding __getitem__ for a subclass of dict

2009-11-17 Thread Steve Howell
On Nov 17, 7:11 am, Scott David Daniels scott.dani...@acm.org wrote: Steve Howell wrote: ... Eventually, I realized that it was easier to just monkeypatch Django while I was in test mode to get a more direct hook into the behavior I was trying to monitor, and then I didn't need to bother

Re: Calling Python functions from Excel

2009-11-17 Thread Mark Tolonen
Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote in message news:4b028ac1.8020...@simplistix.co.uk... Cannonbiker wrote: Hi, unfortunately is my question about server COM (win32com) http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/ee804cec7f58c6a7# without answer. Please I need

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Otten
mrholtsr wrote: I am absolutely new to python and barely past beginner in programming. Also I am not a mathematician. Can some one give me pointers for finding the 1000th. prime for a course I am taking over the internet on Introduction to Computer Science and Programming. Thanks, Ray When

Re: SCGIServer and unusal termination

2009-11-17 Thread Eden Kirin
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Is there some reasonable explanation for this behaviour? Thanks in advance. I can only guess that SCGIServer does something to stdout. Your code isn't executed twice, so the doubling seems to come from writing it twice. Yes I know that code isn't executed twice since

Vim breaks after Python upgrade

2009-11-17 Thread NickC
Perhaps OT, but I figure here is where people have seen this commonly. I upgraded Python from my distro's default of 2.5.2 to 2.6.2. Vim is now complaining every startup about missing exec libraries, presumably as some plugins run some python code on initialisation. I'm guessing vim is

Re: TODO and FIXME tags

2009-11-17 Thread Falcolas
On Nov 17, 4:27 am, Martin P. Hellwig martin.hell...@dcuktec.org wrote: Ben Finney wrote: Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com writes: 2009/11/16 Yasser Almeida Hernández pedro...@fenhi.uh.cu: How is the sintaxis for set the TODO and FIXME tags...? There is no special syntax for those. Some

Re: Calling Python functions from Excel

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Withers
Mark Tolonen wrote: Please I need Calling Python functions from Excel and receive result back in Excel. Can me somebody advise simplest solution please? I am more VBA programmer than Python. Try http://code.google.com/p/pyinex/ The book Python: Programming on Win32 has a whole chapter on

Re: Choosing GUI Module for Python

2009-11-17 Thread Dietmar Schwertberger
sturlamolden schrieb: On 14 Nov, 15:35, Dietmar Schwertberger n...@schwertberger.de wrote: self.m_toolBar1 = self.CreateToolBar( wx.TB_HORIZONTAL, wx.ID_ANY ) self.m_button1 = wx.Button( self.m_toolBar1, wx.ID_ANY, uMyButton, wx.DefaultPosition, wx.DefaultSize, 0 )

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

2009-11-17 Thread Rustom Mody
Language L is (in)efficient. No! Only implementations are (in)efficient I am reminded of a personal anecdote. It happened about 20 years ago but is still fresh and this thread reminds me of it. I was attending some workshop on theoretical computer science. I gave a talk on Haskell. I showed

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

2009-11-17 Thread J Kenneth King
David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Aaron Watters aaron.watt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think Python and Go address the same set of programmer desires.  For example, Go has a static type system.  Some programmers find static type systems to be

Re: Easy way to play single musical notes in Python

2009-11-17 Thread James Harris
On 15 Nov, 05:41, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 14, 6:21 pm, James Harris james.harri...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there a simple way to play musical notes in Python? Something like   voice.play(c4) Uhh, tksnack is pretty easy to use IMO, see this link...

FYI: ConfigParser, ordered options, PEP 372 and OrderedDict + big thank you

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathan Fine
Hi A big thanks to Armin Ronacher and Raymond Hettinger for PEP 372: Adding an ordered dictionary to collections I'm using ConfigParser and I just assumed that the options in a section were returned in the order they were given. In fact, I relied on this fact.

CTypes problem.

2009-11-17 Thread Martijn Arts
I wanted to use PyWiiUse, but, well, it sucks Then I thought; it can't be THAT hard, can it? So I began porting WiiUse to Python using ctypes, but apparently, I did something wrong. poll() gives back an event, *but* (there's always a but) the event doesn't register. Or... Well... See for

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Stefan Behnel wrote: Robert P. J. Day, 15.11.2009 15:44: On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, mrholtsr wrote: I am absolutely new to python and barely past beginner in programming. Also I am not a mathematician. Can some one give me pointers for finding the 1000th. prime for a course I am taking over the

Re: New syntax for blocks

2009-11-17 Thread MRAB
Jonathan Saxton wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:27:31 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Congratulations, you just reinvented one of the most infamous source of bugs in C, C++, Java, PHP, javascript and quite a few other languages. Believe it or not, but not allowing this in Python was a very

Re: SCGIServer and unusal termination

2009-11-17 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Eden Kirin wrote: Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Is there some reasonable explanation for this behaviour? Thanks in advance. I can only guess that SCGIServer does something to stdout. Your code isn't executed twice, so the doubling seems to come from writing it twice. Yes I know that code

Re: Language mavens: Is there a programming with if then else ENDIF syntax?

2009-11-17 Thread nn
On Nov 16, 11:54 am, Steve Ferg steve.ferg.bitbuc...@gmail.com wrote: This is a question for the language mavens that I know hang out here. It is not Python related, except that recent comparisons of Python to Google's new Go language brought it to mind. NOTE that this is *not* a suggestion

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Rebert
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Diez B. Roggisch de...@nospam.web.de wrote: Stefan Behnel wrote: Robert P. J. Day, 15.11.2009 15:44: Now, all that's left to do is write a prime number generator (a random number generator will do, too, but writing a good one isn't easy), run it repeatedly in

Re: Vim breaks after Python upgrade

2009-11-17 Thread Nick Stinemates
At least with Gentoo, there's a command to recompile all of the plugins you have installed when upgrading python versions. Your issue is probably related to that. I don't think VIM uses hardcoded locations for scripts at the core. If you have any specific questions about the errors you're

_winreg error on open key (64bit) - proper usage of _winreg.DisableReflectionKey

2009-11-17 Thread Randall Walls
Greetings, I'm writing a python script to automate creating ODBC connections on a Windows2008 Server (64bit) platform. I created an ODBC manually (using the GUI), for the purposes of fleshing out the 'check for existing' section of the script. Problem: though I can see the key in regedit

Re: _winreg error on open key (64bit) - proper usage of _winreg.DisableReflectionKey

2009-11-17 Thread Nick Stinemates
From _winreg.c: Disables registry reflection for 32-bit processes running on a 64-bit OperatingSystem. Will generally raise NotImplemented if executed on a 32-bit Operating System. If the key is not on the reflection list, the function succeeds but has noeffect. Disabling reflection for a key

Re: YIELD_VALUE Byte Code

2009-11-17 Thread Terry Reedy
Andreas Löscher wrote: Hi, I am not sure if this is the right newsgroup, so if not don't hesitate to tell me. Since there is no CPython internals list, this is the right place to start, even though you might end up having to post a slightly off-topic query to python-devel just to get the

ANN: Urwid 0.9.9 - Console UI Library

2009-11-17 Thread Ian Ward
Announcing Urwid 0.9.9 -- Urwid home page: http://excess.org/urwid/ Updated screen shots: http://excess.org/urwid/examples.html Tarball: http://excess.org/urwid/urwid-0.9.9.tar.gz RSS: http://excess.org/feeds/tag/urwid/ About this release: ===

Is there a way to load multiple wxhtmlwindow at the same time?

2009-11-17 Thread Abe
All - I'm working on a program that loads a series of web pages so the user can view them quickly one after another. I'm using python and wxhtmlwindow, and the page loading is really slow. Is there a simple way to load up the next few pages in the queue while the user is looking at the current

Re: New syntax for blocks

2009-11-17 Thread r
On Nov 17, 9:28 am, Jonathan Saxton jsax...@appsecinc.com wrote: And if I ever find the genius who had the brilliant idea of using = to mean assignment then I have a particularly nasty dungeon reserved just for him.   Also a foul-smelling leech-infested swamp for those language designers and

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Simon Hibbs
On 16 Nov, 10:06, me not_h...@nowhere.com wrote: What Python gui builder is well supported, does not require me to learn another framework/library, and can crank out stuff for multiple platforms ? You're looking for a framework/library that doesn't require you to learn it. OK I've had

Re: 2.6.4 Mac x86_64 ?

2009-11-17 Thread chris grebeldinger
On Nov 14, 12:53 am, Zvezdan Petkovic zvez...@zope.com wrote: On Nov 13, 2009, at 3:58 PM, chris grebeldinger wrote: Hi All, I've been having some trouble getting ax86_64/i386 universal readline.so to build against libedit, on MacOS 10.5.6 as Apple does. Does anyone have any pointers

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread r
On Nov 17, 12:20 pm, Simon Hibbs simon.hi...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't completely dismiss Tkinter. It's too simple for complex GUIs but I still think it has it's place for basic utilities. Agreed! Tkinter (besides myself) seems to be the whipping boy of c.l.py. Tkinter has it's place in

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread CM
On Nov 16, 5:06 am, me not_h...@nowhere.com wrote: Good People I do not write stuff for humans, as it has been my job to remove humans from the loop. But I have to make a front end to a component database where everything was built in Python. I have looked at the Tk stuff that is built into

Re: New syntax for blocks

2009-11-17 Thread Nobody
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:31:18 +, MRAB wrote: And if I ever find the genius who had the brilliant idea of using = to mean assignment then I have a particularly nasty dungeon reserved just for him. Also a foul-smelling leech-infested swamp for those language designers and compiler writers

Re: directory wildcard

2009-11-17 Thread Nobody
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:19:16 -0800, hong zhang wrote:         print f, mcs This assigns decimal value, how can I assign Hex here to mcs? print f, %x % mcs -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: _winreg error on open key (64bit) - proper usage of _winreg.DisableReflectionKey

2009-11-17 Thread Randall Walls
I don't believe so, but it seems like I'm in a catch 22, where I need to _winreg.OpenKey the key first before I can pass it to _winreg.DisableReflectionKey, but it doesn't exist, so I can't open it. I did find out that I can open the key using: hKey = _winreg.OpenKey(_winreg.HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE,

Re: Command line arguments??

2009-11-17 Thread Nobody
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:30:09 +, Rhodri James wrote: Quote the filenames or escape the spaces: C:\Python26\Python.exe C:\echo.py C:\New Folder\text.txt We've been living with this pain ever since windowed GUIs encouraged users to put spaces in their file names (Apple, I'm looking at

Re: Language mavens: Is there a programming with if then else ENDIF syntax?

2009-11-17 Thread steven.oldner
Along the COBOl line is ABAP, the 4gl language from SAP. If today = 'Mon'. message 'oh boy'. elseif today = 'Wed'. message 'Hump day'. elseif today = 'Fri'. message 'TGIF'. else. message 'get to work'. endif. The period is the statement teminator. Indentation and separte lines are just

Re: New syntax for blocks

2009-11-17 Thread Russ P.
On Nov 17, 7:28 am, Jonathan Saxton jsax...@appsecinc.com wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:27:31 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Congratulations, you just reinvented one of the most infamous source of bugs in C, C++, Java, PHP, javascript and quite a few other languages. Believe it or not,

Re: Command line arguments??

2009-11-17 Thread Gerry
On Nov 17, 2:26 pm, Nobody nob...@nowhere.com wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:30:09 +, Rhodri James wrote: Quote the filenames or escape the spaces: C:\Python26\Python.exe C:\echo.py C:\New Folder\text.txt We've been living with this pain ever since windowed GUIs encouraged users   to

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Edward A. Falk
In article aecf2132-05a9-4144-81a8-952bb435e...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, mrholtsr mrhol...@gmail.com wrote: I am absolutely new to python and barely past beginner in programming. Also I am not a mathematician. Can some one give me pointers for finding the 1000th. prime for a course I am

ANN: Urwid 0.9.9 - Console UI Library

2009-11-17 Thread Ian Ward
Announcing Urwid 0.9.9 -- Urwid home page: http://excess.org/urwid/ Updated screen shots: http://excess.org/urwid/examples.html Tarball: http://excess.org/urwid/urwid-0.9.9.tar.gz RSS: http://excess.org/feeds/tag/urwid/ About this release: ===

ANN: Urwid 0.9.9 - Console UI Library

2009-11-17 Thread Ian Ward
Announcing Urwid 0.9.9 -- Urwid home page: http://excess.org/urwid/ Updated screen shots: http://excess.org/urwid/examples.html Tarball: http://excess.org/urwid/urwid-0.9.9.tar.gz RSS: http://excess.org/feeds/tag/urwid/ About this release: ===

Re: Code for finding the 1000th prime

2009-11-17 Thread Terry Reedy
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, mrholtsr wrote: I am absolutely new to python and barely past beginner in programming. Also I am not a mathematician. Can some one give me pointers for finding the 1000th. prime for a course I am taking over the internet on Introduction to Computer Science and

Anything equivalent to cassert in C++?

2009-11-17 Thread Peng Yu
There are some assertion code (testing if a condition is false, if it is false, raise an Error object) in my python, which is useful when I test my package. But such case would never occur when in the produce code. If I keep them in if statement, it will take some runtime. I'm wondering what is

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Joel Davis
On Nov 16, 5:06 am, me not_h...@nowhere.com wrote: Good People I do not write stuff for humans, as it has been my job to remove humans from the loop. But I have to make a front end to a component database where everything was built in Python. I have looked at the Tk stuff that is built into

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Ben Finney
Scott David Daniels scott.dani...@acm.org writes: Well, let's see. You want to do gui work without learning things. Good luck with that. If you discover how, I'd like to learn tensor analysis without using symbols or operations more complex than addition and subtraction. Maybe your groundwork

Re: python gui builders

2009-11-17 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Simon Hibbs wrote: On 16 Nov, 10:06, me not_h...@nowhere.com wrote: What Python gui builder is well supported, does not require me to learn another framework/library, and can crank out stuff for multiple platforms ? You're looking for a framework/library that doesn't require you to learn

Re: Anything equivalent to cassert in C++?

2009-11-17 Thread Simon Forman
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote: There are some assertion code (testing if a condition is false, if it is false, raise an Error object) in my python, which is useful when I test my package.  But such case would never occur when in the produce code. If I keep

Re: Command line arguments??

2009-11-17 Thread Nobody
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:47:46 -0800, Gerry wrote: How about this: lastarg = .join(sys.argv[2:]) What about it? IOW, why would you want to do that? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Beautifulsoup code that is not running

2009-11-17 Thread Zeynel
Hello, Please help with this code suggested in the beautifulsoup group http://groups.google.com/group/beautifulsoup/browse_frm/thread/d288555c6992ceaa from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup soup = BeautifulSoup (file(test.html).read()) title = soup.find('title') titleString = title.string

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

2009-11-17 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Paul Rubin http://phr...@nospam.invalid wrote: What about Git?  Some people prefer it. Git is an interesting example, because it both really pushes performance into its core structure and reasonably complete implementations exist in other languages. In

Re: ast manipulation

2009-11-17 Thread Terry Reedy
Tsize wrote: Hello, I am hoping for a little help. I have been playing with the python ast module and have run into an issue that I need a little push on. I would like to be able to change a specific element in a specific node in an ast then compile the resulting ast. If you can identify

Re: Vim breaks after Python upgrade

2009-11-17 Thread Terry Reedy
NickC wrote: Perhaps OT, but I figure here is where people have seen this commonly. I upgraded Python from my distro's default of 2.5.2 to 2.6.2. Vim is now complaining every startup about missing exec libraries, presumably as some plugins run some python code on initialisation. I'm

Pydev 1.5.1 Released

2009-11-17 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Hi All, Pydev 1.5.1 has been released Details on Pydev: http://pydev.org Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com Release Highlights: --- * Improvements in the AST rewriter * Improvements on the refactoring engine: o No longer using BRM o

Re: ANN: PyGUI 2.1

2009-11-17 Thread greg
r wrote: I really like this! But after looking over your pyGUI it does seem that Tkinter has a richer widget set. PyGUI is a work in progress. I plan to add more widgets, but it will take a while to catch up with what's available in Tkinter and other GUI toolkits. I tend to add widgets as

Re: ANN: Urwid 0.9.9 - Console UI Library

2009-11-17 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
On 11/16/09, Ian Ward i...@excess.org wrote: Announcing Urwid 0.9.9 -- Urwid home page: http://excess.org/urwid/ Updated screen shots: http://excess.org/urwid/examples.html How did you make the html 'screenshots'? I guess you have some kind of urwid2html tool or

Re: python simply not scaleable enough for google?

2009-11-17 Thread greg
David Cournapeau wrote: It is a bit odd to dismiss python is slow by saying that you can extend it with fortran. One of the most significant point of python IMO is its readability, even for people not familiar with it, and that's important when doing scientific work. Relying on a lot of

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