Consider Clojure: http://clojure.org/
You might want to watch one of these videos for an overview:
http://clojure.blip.tv/
There is also evidence that Clojure is currently the most popular
Lisp, more "popular" than Scheme or Common Lisp, whatever that means:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=com
On 12/06/2010 03:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:13:44 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
This
reminds me of time-travellers suffering from "time lag" in the
wonderful novel "To Say Nothing Of The Dog" by Connie Willis.
One of the many excellent reasons why
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Vincent Davis wrote:
> Starting with an example.
> In [23]: x = [1,2,3,4,4,4,5,5,3,2,2,]
> In [24]: y = set(x)
> In [25]: y
> Out[25]: set([1, 2, 3, 4, 5])
> In [26]: y2 = len(set(x))
> In [27]: y2
> Out[27]: 5
>
> How would I do the above "y2 = len(set(x))" but ha
On 6/11/10 7:11 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Stephen Hansen wrote:
>
>> There's very little you can do with pywin32 that you can't do with
>> ctypes.
>
> Except, apparently, use it from another module in the stdlib. :-(
>
Yeah. I get the policy in general, a proliferation of ctypes stuff could
be
Starting with an example.
In [23]: x = [1,2,3,4,4,4,5,5,3,2,2,]
In [24]: y = set(x)
In [25]: y
Out[25]: set([1, 2, 3, 4, 5])
In [26]: y2 = len(set(x))
In [27]: y2
Out[27]: 5
How would I do the above "y2 = len(set(x))" but have len(set()) in a
dictionary. I know how to do ..
In [30]: d = dict(s=set
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:13:44 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> This
>> reminds me of time-travellers suffering from "time lag" in the
>> wonderful novel "To Say Nothing Of The Dog" by Connie Willis.
>
> One of the many excellent reasons why Guido keeps tight control over the
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
This
reminds me of time-travellers suffering from "time lag" in the wonderful
novel "To Say Nothing Of The Dog" by Connie Willis.
One of the many excellent reasons why Guido keeps tight
control over the keys to his time machine. Time-lagged
joyriding teenagers careening
Stephen Hansen wrote:
There's very little you can do with pywin32 that you can't do with
ctypes.
Except, apparently, use it from another module in the stdlib. :-(
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On Jun 11, 5:07 pm, durumdara wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I want to use KinterBasDB in mixed mode: sometimes embedded, sometimes
> real local/remote server.
> How can I set up the connection to KinterBasDB can determine, what
> mode I want to use?
>
> Thanks for your help:
> dd
you could use 2 connection
> So let me hear of ANY improvements and/or suggestions for Tkinter/IDLE
> docs, code, or whatever.
Why don't you modify the IDLE code to use the newer ttk widget set,
rather than what its using now? You'd be surprised at how much
difference you'll see.
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Hello all,
Hi this i my first post here. I would like to create a tkinter
toplevel window with a custom resize action based on a grid. From the
Tk docs it say you can do this but for the life of me i cannot figure
out how? In my app i wish for the main window to only resize in 20
pixel "jumps" (if
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:19 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jun 11, 4:08 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
>> On 6/11/10 1:20 PM, rantingrick wrote:
>>
>> > Run the warning. Then and *only* then can we move forward with facts.
>>
>> http://google.com/codesearch?q=%22from+Tkinter+import%22http://google.com/c
On Jun 11, 4:08 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> On 6/11/10 1:20 PM, rantingrick wrote:
>
> > Run the warning. Then and *only* then can we move forward with facts.
>
> http://google.com/codesearch?q=%22from+Tkinter+import%22http://google.com/codesearch?q=%22import+Tkinter%22
>
> Compared to:
>
> http:/
On 6/11/10 10:00 AM, Nathan Rice wrote:
> I've tried using args/kwargs, however I found it difficult to avoid
> having arguments in my signature re-ordered, and it is also a source
> of bugs.
>
> Has anyone come up with a good solution for dealing with arguments in
> situations like this where you
On 11 Giu, 20:03, Chris Hulan wrote:
> Haven't used it but Racket (http://racket-lang.org/) looks to be a new
> and improved Scheme
I have checked it out and I don't recommend it to others.
Racket is not Scheme anymore (it can't use SLIB, which relies on
common Scheme facilities). Racket is a la
On 6/11/10 1:20 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> Run the warning. Then and *only* then can we move forward with facts.
http://google.com/codesearch?q=%22from+Tkinter+import%22
http://google.com/codesearch?q=%22import+Tkinter%22
Compared to:
http://google.com/codesearch?q=%22from+wx+import%22
http://goog
On 6/11/10 1:09 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
> Your question would have been much easier to understand if you had
> referred to "form field" rather than variable, since I assumed you
> really meant Python variable. Also, this script is a CGI script,
> written in Python. But the other files that you impo
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jun 11, 12:44 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>>
>> To quote R. David Murray on the Python bug tracker earlier today.
>>
>> "Everyone who uses IDLE uses TKInter
>
> Thats a grossly general statement although it *is* a fact. Heres
> Another: "E
On 6/11/2010 1:20 PM rantingrick said...
On Jun 11, 12:44 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
and a lot of people use IDLE."
"A lot"? How many is "a lot"
4050 (1)
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On Jun 11, 12:44 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
> To quote R. David Murray on the Python bug tracker earlier today.
>
> "Everyone who uses IDLE uses TKInter
Thats a grossly general statement although it *is* a fact. Heres
Another: "Everyone who uses Tkinter uses Python"... and the point
is
>
Lie Ryan wrote:
> In my original post in comp.programming, I
> used this definition of factorial:
>
> def fact(n):
> """ factorial function (i.e. n! = n * (n-1) * ... * 2 * 1) """
> p = 1
> for i in range(1,n+1):
> p *= i
> return p
Ah, much better, but partition10(M, i) ge
Victor Subervi wrote:
Ok. Starting over. Here is the script that "generates" the variable
"new_passengers_curr_customers":
Now, here's the form that *should* be able to access that variable:
!/usr/bin/python
import cgitb; cgitb.enable()
import cgi
import sys,os
sys.path.append(os.getcwd(
Victor Subervi wrote:
Ok. Starting over. Here is the script that "generates" the variable
"new_passengers_curr_customers":
[snip]
Now, here's the form that *should* be able to access that variable:
!/usr/bin/python
import cgitb; cgitb.enable()
import cgi
import sys,os
sys.path.append(os.get
... This is the first time you've actually clearly expressed what you're
doing.
On 6/11/10 12:11 PM, Victor Subervi wrote:
I dub thee Script1.py:
> *** RIGHT HERE! ***
>
> print " name='new_passengers_curr_customers' />"
>
> *** SEE IT? *
Hello all,
We are pleased to tell you that Komodo IDE and Komodo Edit 6.0.0 Beta 1
were released today. If you're using 6.0.0 Alpha 2 then you can use
Komodo's auto-update mechanism. Otherwise, you can get Beta 1 at:
http://downloads.activestate.com/Komodo/releases/6.0.0b1/
For Pythonistas t
Ok. Starting over. Here is the script that "generates" the variable
"new_passengers_curr_customers":
#!/usr/bin/python
import cgitb; cgitb.enable()
import cgi
import sys,os
sys.path.append(os.getcwd())
import MySQLdb
from login import login
from Curr_Passengers_Table import Curr_Passengers_Table
Thank you for your replies...
I have overriden the error handlers
and the results:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/burak/NetBeansProjects/intantMarkup/src/
02basicServer.py", line 65, in
try: asyncore.loop()
File "/usr/lib/python3.1/asyncore.py", line 206, in loop
poll
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Chris Hulan wrote:
> Haven't used it but Racket (http://racket-lang.org/) looks to be a new
> and improved Scheme
>
The language isn't new, just the name. Racket is the language formerly
known as PLT Scheme. They decided that they made enough changes from
R5RS th
Victor Subervi wrote:
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Stephen Hansen
wrote:
Sure, if you have some file that two separate scripts import, and in
said file you generate some value-- as long as that value will be the
same at all times, it'll appear that the two scripts are sharing some
state
[reordering the message a bit]
On 6/11/10 10:40 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:
>>> Now you guys can make fun of me all you want, but until you actually
READ
>>> and UNDERSTAND what I'm writing, I'm afraid I think your criticisms are
>>> ridiculous and make you look like fools.
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 a
Haven't used it but Racket (http://racket-lang.org/) looks to be a new
and improved Scheme
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On 06/11/10 08:48, Elena wrote:
On 10 Giu, 23:33, bolega wrote:
I mean ordinary people, who may want to do things with their computers
for scripting, tasks that python can do...
Lisp is not for ordinary people, Python is.
Python is for ordinary people.
Lisp is for extraordinary people.
I be
I reconfigured MySQL to allow local network connections, and
now MySQLdb works over TCP. It doesn't seem to be able to use
Windows 7 named pipes, although the "mysql" command line client can.
There may be a bug. This wouldn't be noticed unless MySQL
was configured without network connections,
Andreas Waldenburger writes:
> I have a strong suspicion that Tkinter may be used a lot more than is
> made public (isn't anything?). I'm especially thinking about scientists
> who write special purpose data processing or control programs with
> basic GUIs. These things don't have to be pretty or
On 11/06/2010 17:17, rantingrick wrote:
On Jun 11, 9:06 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
"Everyone who uses IDLE uses TKInter, and a lot of people use IDLE."
That sounds like hyperbole to me. What evidence do you have to made
such a statement. What evidence do *I* have to make the opposing
statement
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Stephen Hansen
wrote:
> Sure, if you have some file that two separate scripts import, and in
> said file you generate some value-- as long as that value will be the
> same at all times, it'll appear that the two scripts are sharing some
> state. They are not, howe
I'm looking for one or more very complicated gettext PO files for
testing. I know this sounds a bit OT, but these files will be
used to test some Python-based PO utilities we've had to write to
manage our PO files. We have our own in-house produced test
files, but its always dangerous to test again
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Nathan Rice
wrote:
> I've tried using args/kwargs, however I found it difficult to avoid
> having arguments in my signature re-ordered, and it is also a source
> of bugs.
>
> Has anyone come up with a good solution for dealing with arguments in
> situations like th
On 6/11/10 4:48 AM, Andreas Waldenburger wrote:
> I have a strong suspicion that Tkinter may be used a lot more than is
> made public (isn't anything?). I'm especially thinking about scientists
> who write special purpose data processing or control programs with
> basic GUIs. These things don't hav
On 6/10/10 11:00 PM, rantingrick wrote:
> On Jun 11, 12:17 am, ant wrote:
>> I like the points about backwards compatibility. Presumably that
>> reason alone is enough to keep Tkinter in the standard library for a
>> long while.
>
> I don't see why that is a good reason. Download Tkinter and your
On 6/10/10 10:17 PM, ant wrote:
> So would it be so awful to have Tkinter and GUI2 (whatever it is) in
> the stdlib, assuming that both had equivalent functionality? That
> would be the way to give people the choice.
There's some slight precedent, in that the stdlib does offer more then
one "xml"
I've been running into a problem lately where I have an architecture like so:
Main class -> facade/configuration class -> low level logic class.
The main class is what the user interacts with.
The facade/config class is responsible for loading and managing the
lower level classes and providing a
In every dispatcher instance of your application I recommend to
override handle_error as follows:
class A(asyncore.dispatcher)
def handle_error(self):
raise
This will print a common traceback message instead of the compact one
provided by asyncore which provides a lot less informat
On 6/10/2010 11:58 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:15:21 -0700, John Nagle
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
MySQL is configured for connections over named pipes only; it's
not running as a TCP server. Is MySQLdb trying to use TCP for a local
connection
On 6/11/10 4:46 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:
> You know, if this were the first time I'd worked with "passing variables
> around" through cgi, I'd think you may be right. But answer me this:
if what
> you assume is correct,
I do not assume. I know.
With CGI, each web request is independent. This is
On Jun 11, 9:06 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> "Everyone who uses IDLE uses TKInter, and a lot of people use IDLE."
That sounds like hyperbole to me. What evidence do you have to made
such a statement. What evidence do *I* have to make the opposing
statement. We don't, so add the warning and put you
Mark Lawrence wrote:
For a bit of light relief from those fed up of reading of the perceived
shortcomings of tkinker thought you might like this. Enjoy :)
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Spencer.Rugaber/poems/love.txt
Kindest regards.
Mark Lawrence
AH hahahahahahahahahahahah
Much appreci
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:26:28 -0700 (PDT), Burakk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using ubuntu lucid and i have started to learn python(vrs 3.1). I
> am trying to make a tutorial code(see below) work but when i run the
> code, open a terminal window and connect as client with telnet and
> type somethings and
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:11:26 +0800, yanhua wrote:
> hi,all！
> it's a simple question:
> input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
>
> this is my program:
> s = input()
> t = s.split()
> a = int(t[0])
> b = int(t[1])
> print(a+b)
>
> but i think it's too complex,can anybody tell to slove i
On 10 Giu, 23:33, bolega wrote:
> I mean ordinary people, who may want to do things with their computers
> for scripting, tasks that python can do...
Lisp is not for ordinary people, Python is.
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yanhua writes:
> it's a simple question:
> input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
>
> this is my program:
> s = input()
input() is probably not what you think it is. Check raw_input instead.
> t = s.split()
> a = int(t[0])
> b = int(t[1])
> print(a+b)
>
> but i think it's too complex,
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyjsglade/
kees bos, the primary programmer who added all of the incredible
python features to the pyjs compiler, such as support for yield, long
data type and much more, has just started a project "pyjsglade". its
purpose is the same as that of GTK glade: allow d
2010/6/12 yanhua
> hi,all！
> it's a simple question:
> input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
>
> this is my program:
> s = input()
> t = s.split()
> a = int(t[0])
> b = int(t[1])
> print(a+b)
>
> but i think it's too complex,can anybody tell to slove it with less code.
> --
>
The reas
On 6/11/2010 4:46 AM Victor Subervi said...
Now you guys can make fun of me all you want, but until you actually READ
and UNDERSTAND what I'm writing, I'm afraid I think your criticisms are
ridiculous and make you look like fools.
I think the point is exactly as you state -- until you actually
Andreas Waldenburger wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) rantingrick
wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:17 am, ant wrote:
I like the points about backwards compatibility. Presumably that
reason alone is enough to keep Tkinter in the standard library for a
long while.
I don't se
Simon Brunning ha scritto:
2010/6/11 yanhua :
hi,all！
it's a simple question:
input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
print sum(int(i) for i in raw_input("Please enter some integers: ").split())
LOL
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2010/6/11 yanhua :
> hi,all！
> it's a simple question:
> input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
print sum(int(i) for i in raw_input("Please enter some integers: ").split())
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On 6/11/10, yanhua wrote:
> hi,all！
> it's a simple question:
> input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
>
> this is my program:
> s = input()
> t = s.split()
> a = int(t[0])
> b = int(t[1])
> print(a+b)
>
> but i think it's too complex,can anybody tell to slove it with less code.
Just a t
On 06/11/10 15:19, superpollo wrote:
yanhua ha scritto:
hi,all??
s = input()
this does not work
Well it does if it is python 3 and not 2 as you are using
:-)
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yanhua ha scritto:
hi,all??
it's a simple question:
input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
this is my program:
s = input()
this does not work
t = s.split()
a = int(t[0])
b = int(t[1])
print(a+b)
but i think it's too complex,can anybody tell to slove it with less code.
>>> import
hi,all！
it's a simple question:
input two integers A and B in a line,output A+B?
this is my program:
s = input()
t = s.split()
a = int(t[0])
b = int(t[1])
print(a+b)
but i think it's too complex,can anybody tell to slove it with less code.
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On 11/06/2010 12:48, Andreas Waldenburger wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) rantingrick
wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:17 am, ant wrote:
I like the points about backwards compatibility. Presumably that
reason alone is enough to keep Tkinter in the standard library for a
long while.
I
On 6/11/10 7:48 AM, Andreas Waldenburger wrote:
I have a strong suspicion that Tkinter may be used a lot more than is
made public (isn't anything?). I'm especially thinking about scientists
who write special purpose data processing or control programs with
basic GUIs. These things don't have to
Andreas Waldenburger ha scritto:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) rantingrick
wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:17 am, ant wrote:
I like the points about backwards compatibility. Presumably that
reason alone is enough to keep Tkinter in the standard library for a
long while.
I don't see why that
Hi,
I am trying to do a very simple thing with SUDS but I think I am
missing the obvious (first time I use suds)
I have small program that tries to open a wsdl. When I execute the
program I am getting 'suds.transport.TransportError: HTTP Error 401:
Unauthorized' Seems obvious but I specify userna
Thanks, both of the methods work fine:
open(os.path.expandvars("${SOMETHING}/sc_1.sh"), "r")
OR
infile = open(os.path.join(env, 'sc_1.sh'),"r")
// Naderan *Mahmood;
From: Christian Heimes
To: python-list@python.org
Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 2:05:15 PM
Subjec
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) rantingrick
wrote:
> On Jun 11, 12:17 am, ant wrote:
> > I like the points about backwards compatibility. Presumably that
> > reason alone is enough to keep Tkinter in the standard library for a
> > long while.
>
> I don't see why that is a good reason.
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Stephen Hansen wrote:
> On 6/10/10 10:48 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:
> > Now, create_edit_passengers3() is called by the form/submit button in
> (you
> > guessed it) create_edit_passengers2.py, the latter containing a var in it
> > which *should* be accessible to cre
On 11/06/2010 08:35, rantingrick wrote:
On Jun 11, 1:46 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I look forward to seeing your request on the Python bug tracker. Not
holding my breath.
Thanks Mark, its done! "Tkinter Litmus Test"
I know, saw it on the bug tracker list before I left for work this
mornin
rantingrick schrieb:
On Jun 10, 9:38 pm, Stephen Hansen wrote:
Also-- you're just starting to get wrong.
http://docs.python.org/library/tix.html
They don't -call- them the things you are, but between ComboBox, and the
flexibility of HList and TList... it actually offers quite a lot.
Stephen Hansen a écrit :
On 6/10/10 8:35 AM, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Stephen Hansen (L/P) a écrit :
On 6/10/10 7:14 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:
(snip)
+1 for "absolutely worst framed question of the day" :)
IMHO you're wasting your time. Some guys never learn, and I guess we do
have a world
Am 11.06.2010 10:39, schrieb Mahmood Naderan:
> Hi,
> I am new to python so my question may be very basic.
> Suppose I have a file (sc_1.sh) which the path to that file is in system path:
> SOMETHING=/home/mahmood/scripts
>
> Now I want to open that file with respect to the environment variable:
Mahmood Naderan wrote:
Hi,
I am new to python so my question may be very basic.
Suppose I have a file (sc_1.sh) which the path to that file is in
system path:
SOMETHING=/home/mahmood/scripts
Now I want to open that file with respect to the environment variable:
import os
env = os.g
Hi!
I want to use KinterBasDB in mixed mode: sometimes embedded, sometimes
real local/remote server.
How can I set up the connection to KinterBasDB can determine, what
mode I want to use?
Thanks for your help:
dd
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:14:01 -0700, bolega wrote:
> Please compare LISP and its virtues with other languages such as
> javascript, python etc.
Generally, it is advisable to cross-post questions like this to at
least 50 other language newsgroups. For example, you are not giving
Ruby users a fair
p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes:
> What applets? Have you ever seen a java applet? Last time I saw one
> it must have been fifteen years ago.
I see one each time I log into my internet banking
service. Unfortunately.
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Hi,
I am new to python so my question may be very basic.
Suppose I have a file (sc_1.sh) which the path to that file is in system path:
SOMETHING=/home/mahmood/scripts
Now I want to open that file with respect to the environment variable:
import os
env = os.getenv("SOMETHING")
print env
On jún. 10, 23:01, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> On Jun 10, 8:45 pm, durumdara wrote:
>
> > ne 91, in fixed_conv_out_precise
> > from decimal import Decimal
> > ImportError: cannot import name Decimal
>
> Is it possible that you've got another file called decimal.py
> somewhere in Python's path? W
On Jun 10, 10:26 am, Giampaolo Rodolà wrote:
> 2010/6/10 Leon :
>
> > Hi, there,
> > I'm trying to read the source code of python.
> > I read around, and am kind of lost, so where to start?
>
> > Any comments are welcomed, thanks in advance.
> > --
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python
On Jun 10, 7:53 am, Floris Bruynooghe
wrote:
> On Jun 10, 8:55 am, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>
> > On 06/10/2010 07:25 AM, Qijing Li wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for your reply.
> > > I'm trying to understand python language deeply and use it efficiently.
> > > For example: How the operator "in" works on l
On 6/10/2010 11:40 AM, Chris Seberino wrote:
Even if zombies are created, they will eventually get dealt with my OS
w/o any user intervention needed right?
Bad approach. Years ago I inherited a server that didn't do a proper cleanup pf
its slaves. After a few days running, people discovered t
On Jun 11, 1:46 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I look forward to seeing your request on the Python bug tracker. Not
> holding my breath.
Thanks Mark, its done! "Tkinter Litmus Test"
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En Wed, 09 Jun 2010 05:03:36 -0300, madhuri vio
escribió:
url[, data[, timeout])
in this format of passing arguments i dint understand d syntax...d comma
is
coming immediately after the bracket...dint get it..
Those square brackets are not "real" brackets, you're not supposed to
actua
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