Re: Web framework
Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira renato.barbosa.pim.pere...@gmail.com writes: I'm thinking of porting a Python application that uses numpy for web, basically would like to upload a user-defined data, perform the calculations with numpy and plot charts with the general structure of a site such as a blog for example The “default” option is Django URL:https://www.djangoproject.com/, but that only means there is a lot of community support for it — there are plenty of other good options, as you've noticed. I have studied a bit of django and web2py, but I wonder if there is some better framework? or how to choose a particular framework over another? This is a very vague question. You're best placed to know what it is you want. What have you learned from your attempts to implement the site already? What has gone wrong, what do you need that you would expect from a better framework? -- \“Program testing can be a very effective way to show the | `\presence of bugs, but is hopelessly inadequate for showing | _o__) their absence.” —Edsger W. Dijkstra | Ben Finney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dvalve! we called the heart of outsourcing world.
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What's wrong?New hand.Head first pythonchapter7/8 webapp -No such CGI script
My webapp is once good to use. Now I do not know what happened. It can not work.
when i type http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/generate_list.py ,
http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/generate_timing_data.py, or anything after
cgi-bin in my chrome. It all turns out like Message: No such CGI script
('/cgi-bin/generate_timing_data.py'). Error code explanation: 404 - Nothing
matches the given URI.
I even download the webapp on http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfpython/
Still it does not work.
(you can download the app on the website,that is chapter 8. And the app is in
file webapp-chapter8)
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Re: Traceback when using multiprocessing, less than helpful?
On 22/11/2013 03:57, John Ladasky wrote: ...Richard submits his hack (his description) to Python 3.4 which pickles and passes the string. When time permits, I'll try it out. Or maybe I'll wait, since Python 3.4.0 is still in alpha. FTR beta 1 is due this Saturday 24/11/2013. -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Web Page Parsing/Downloading
Hi. I'm self taught at Python and I used http://www.codecademy.com/ to learn
which was great help i must say but now, I'm attempting it all on my own and
need a little help?
I have three scripts and this is what I'm trying to do with them;
Download from webpage
Parse Links from Page
Output summary of total links
Format a list of matched links
Parse and Print Email addresses
Crach Hash Passwords
Exception Handling
Parsing and Print links to image files/.doc
Save file into specified folder and alert when files don't save
Can anyone help because I've become a little stuck? None of the scripts are
running for me and I can't see where I'm having issues
WebPage script;
import sys, urllib
def getWebpage(url):
print '[*] getWebpage()'
url_file = urllib.urlopen(url)
page = url_file.read()
return page
def main():
sys.argv.append('http://www.funeralformyfat.tumblr.com')
if len(sys.argv) != 2:
print '[-] Usage: webpage_get URL'
return
print getWebpage(sys.argv[1])
if __name__ == '__main__':
main()
getLinks
def print_links(page):
print '[*] print_links()'
links = re.findall(r'\a.*href\=.*http\:.+', page)
links.sort()
print '[+]', str(len(links)), 'HyperLinks Found:'
for link in links:
print link
def main():
sys.argv.append('http://www.funeralformyfat.tumblr.com')
if len(sys.argv) != 2:
print '[-] Usage: webpage_getlinks URL'
return
page = webpage_get.wget(sys.argv[1])
print_links(page)
from os.path import join
directory = join('/home/', y, '/newdir/')
file_name = url.split('/')[-1]
file_name = join(directory, file_name)
if __name__ == '__main__':
main()
getParser
import md5
oldpasswd_byuser=str(tom)
oldpasswd_db=sha1$c60da$1835a9c3ccb1cc436ccaa577679b5d0321234c6f
opw= md5.new(oldpasswd_byuser)
#opw= md5.new(oldpasswd_byuser).hexdigest()
if(opw == oldpasswd_db):
print same password
else:
print Invalid password
from email.parser import Parser
#headers = Parser().parse(open(messagefile, 'r'))
headers = Parser().parsestr('From: u...@example.com\n'
'To: someone_e...@example.com\n'
'Subject: Test message\n'
'\n'
'Body would go here\n')
print 'To: %s' % headers['to']
print 'From: %s' % headers['from']
print 'Subject: %s' % headers['subject']
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Re: Web framework
Hi, I'm thinking of porting a Python application that uses numpy for web, basically would like to upload a user-defined data, perform the calculations with numpy and plot charts with the general structure of a site such as a blog for example, I have studied a bit of django and web2py, but I wonder if there is some better framework? or how to choose a particular framework over another? I've recently worked on the same kind of Python web application. I have a preference for microframework, here is an explanation of what does micro mean: http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/foreword/#what-does-micro-mean And among all the good microframework available, I like Flask: http://flask.pocoo.org It has an excellent documentation, it is based on two great libraries: Werkzeug and Jinja2, it has an extenstion system, it has active an has a growning communinty ... and its written by Armin Ronacher! Hope it helps. David Since now, thanks -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Method chaining
A frequently missed feature is the ability to chain method calls: x = [] x.append(1).append(2).append(3).reverse().append(4) = x now equals [3, 2, 1, 4] This doesn't work with lists, as the methods return None rather than self. The class needs to be designed with method chaining in mind before it will work, and most Python classes follow the lead of built-ins like list and have mutator methods return None rather than self. Here's a proof-of-concept recipe to adapt any object so that it can be used for chaining method calls: class chained: def __init__(self, obj): self.obj = obj def __repr__(self): return repr(self.obj) def __getattr__(self, name): obj = getattr(self.obj, name) if callable(obj): def selfie(*args, **kw): # Call the method just for side-effects, return self. _ = obj(*args, **kw) return self return selfie else: return obj chained([]).append(1).append(2).append(3).reverse().append(4) = returns [3, 2, 1, 4] Tested, and works, in CPython 2.4 through 2.7, 3.2 and 3.3, Jython 2.5, and IronPython 2.6. See here for further discussion of the limitations: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/578770-method-chaining/ -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: if callable(obj): def selfie(*args, **kw): # Call the method just for side-effects, return self. _ = obj(*args, **kw) return self return selfie else: return obj Nice piece of magic. One limitation not mentioned is that this completely destroys the chance to have a method return anything _other than_ self. Since this is intended for Python's convention of mutators return None, I'd be inclined to check for a None return, though that might still have some false positives. def selfie(*args, **kw): # Call the method for side-effects, return self if it returns None. _ = obj(*args, **kw) if _ is None: return self return _ return selfie Either that, or manually identify a set of methods to wrap, which could possibly be done fairly cleanly with a list of names passed to __init__. That'd be more work, though. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Page Parsing/Downloading
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, TheRandomPast wishingfor...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone help because I've become a little stuck? None of the scripts are running for me and I can't see where I'm having issues I'm rather lost in what you're trying to accomplish here. The first thing to do would be to separate out your three scripts and just look at one at a time; then cut each one down to just what it really needs to be doing. Once you've done that, you'll have a simple example - see http://sscce.org/ for tips on that - and you can figure out what it's doing wrong. If you can't figure it out on your own, the short example will be far more suitable for posting here, along with its error backtrace (if it's throwing one), than a more verbose program listing. Two general points of advice. Firstly, if you're just starting out, I strongly recommend you use Python 3 instead of Python 2. All sorts of things have been improved, and it's far easier to learn on the new version than to learn on the old and then have to change your habits later. And secondly, please read this and take note: https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython - otherwise, you'll find that a lot of people don't want to see your post. Best would be to avoid Google Groups altogether, as it's very approximately the worst newsgroup client I've ever seen posts from. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
Steven D'Aprano wrote: A frequently missed feature is the ability to chain method calls: x = [] x.append(1).append(2).append(3).reverse().append(4) = x now equals [3, 2, 1, 4] This doesn't work with lists, as the methods return None rather than self. The class needs to be designed with method chaining in mind before it will work, and most Python classes follow the lead of built-ins like list and have mutator methods return None rather than self. Here's a proof-of-concept recipe to adapt any object so that it can be used for chaining method calls: class chained: def __init__(self, obj): self.obj = obj def __repr__(self): return repr(self.obj) def __getattr__(self, name): obj = getattr(self.obj, name) if callable(obj): def selfie(*args, **kw): # Call the method just for side-effects, return self. _ = obj(*args, **kw) return self return selfie else: return obj chained([]).append(1).append(2).append(3).reverse().append(4) = returns [3, 2, 1, 4] Tested, and works, in CPython 2.4 through 2.7, 3.2 and 3.3, Jython 2.5, and IronPython 2.6. See here for further discussion of the limitations: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/578770-method-chaining/ Here's my take: class Chained(object): def __init__(self, value, method=None): self.value = value self.method = method def __call__(self, *args, **kw): result = self.method(*args, **kw) if result is None: result = self.value return Chained(result) def __getattr__(self, name): return Chained(self.value, getattr(self.value, name)) if __name__ == __main__: print(Chained([]).append(1).append(2).append(3).reverse().append(4).value) print(Chained([]).append(1).extend([2,1,1]).count(1).value) These things are nice to write as long as you omit the gory details, but personally I don't want to see the style it favours in my or other people's code. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
On 11/22/2013 6:26 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: A frequently missed feature is the ability to chain method calls: x = [] x.append(1).append(2).append(3).reverse().append(4) = x now equals [3, 2, 1, 4] This doesn't work with lists, as the methods return None True for the 7 pure mutation methods but not for .copy, .count, .index, and .pop. The last both mutates and returns. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
Hello Sir/Mam, Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the concept in python language. My doubts are : 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? 2) Is it possible to Delete the Address of the Variable and create a new dynamic address inside the compiler/interpreter itself ? 3) Is it easy to find the Binary equivalence of a given Alphanumeric String ? 4) Is it possible to count the number of 1's in the Binary equivalence ? Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? Your reply counts a lot for me and my research ! I love to explore more in python. Awaiting for your Response (Please reply ASAP). Best, Bharath (+91 9025338332) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Having trouble setting up an extremely simple server...
In article 528eec7a$0$29992$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: There are all sorts of things that you can do that don't make your code wrong but do make it difficult to deal with. Why stop with semi-colons? import socket; pass; pass; pass; pass; pass; serverReady = ((True is True) is True) is True) is True); serverSock = socket . \ socket( socket . \ AF_INET\ , \ socket.\ SOCK_STREAM\ ) \ ; Steve, you're just worried about how readable some Python code is. All I can say to that is #firstworldproblem. There's bigger issues at stake here. One thing to be aware of is that semicolons are valuable on the world punctuation spot market. Somewhere, right now, in Greenwich or Stamford, or maybe Tribeca, in some hedge-fund sweat shop, there's a C++ programmer who can't afford to write a for(;;) loop because he doesn't have enough semicolons. Why? Because the world punctuation markets can't handle the added buy-side pressure from new Python programmers using the wrong punctuation. Also, every semicolon we save can be broken down and res-used as TWO decimal points! The Americans use the top part, most other places use the bottom part. It's like a punctuation breeder reactor. One piece goes in, and two come out. So, really. Cut it out with the semicolons. If you won't do it for us, think of the hedge-fund coders. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Help me to print to screen as well as log
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Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
In article mailman.3038.1385125611.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Bharath Kummar bathubharat...@gmail.com wrote:
Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the
concept in python language.
My doubts are :
[Note to readers of American/British English; Indian English uses
doubt the same way we would use question]
1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ?
No. One of the fundamental concepts of Python is that it completely
hides the physical memory. Sure, at some point, when you write
x = 42
it allocates some piece of memory and puts the integer 42 into it, but
all those details are hidden from you (and are implementation specific).
3) Is it easy to find the Binary equivalence of a given Alphanumeric
String ?
I think what you're talking about is the ord() function. Given a single
character (i.e. a string of length 1), it returns the unicode value for
that character. Thus:
ord('X')
88
You could iterate over the characters in a string to find that for each
one:
[ord(c) for c in My string]
[77, 121, 32, 115, 116, 114, 105, 110, 103]
4) Is it possible to count the number of 1's in the Binary equivalence ?
This is starting to sound like a homework problem, or possibly an
interview question :-)
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Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote:
1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ?
No. Variables in Python are not at fixed addresses, like in Pascal or C,
they are names in a namespace.
You can read this post for some more information about the difference
between C variables and Python variables, and calling conventions across
different languages:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2010-December/080505.html
It's a long post, but to summarise the part about variables:
In languages like Pascal or C, the compiler keeps a table mapping
variable names to fixed memory addresses, like this:
Variable Address
===
x 10234
y 10238
z 10242
The command x = 42 stores the value 42 into memory address 10234. If
you ask the compiler for the address of x, it can say 10234. That's how
variables work in languages like Pascal, C, Fortran, and similar.
With the Pascal or C style variable, the variable address exists even
before you give it a value.
But languages like Python don't work that way. There is no table of
variable:address available to the compiler, and variables don't have an
address. Python's variables are *name bindings*, not fixed memory
addresses. The Python runtime keeps a global dictionary which maps names
to their values:
{'x': integer object 42,
'y': string object 'hello world',
'z': list object [1,2,3],
}
The general name for this is namespace. In Python you can access the
global namespace with the globals() function, and a read-only copy of the
local namespace with the locals() function.
Entries in the namespace cannot be blank. So names don't exist before
they are bound to a value.
2)
Is it possible to Delete the Address of the Variable and create a new
dynamic address inside the compiler/interpreter itself ?
I don't understand this question.
Since variables don't have addresses, you can't delete what doesn't exist.
3) Is it easy
to find the Binary equivalence of a given Alphanumeric String ?
Which binary equivalence are you referring to? Again, I don't understand
your question. I can do this:
py astring = 1234
py int(astring).to_bytes(4, 'big')
b'\x00\x00\x04\xd2'
py int(astring).to_bytes(4, 'little')
b'\xd2\x04\x00\x00'
Or I can do this:
py astring = Alpha1234 δθЖ∞
py astring.encode('utf-8')
b'Alpha1234 \xce\xb4\xce\xb8\xd0\x96\xe2\x88\x9e'
Or I can do this:
py import binascii
py binascii.hexlify(b'Hello World!')
b'48656c6c6f20576f726c6421'
And many other string - binary equivalences. Which ones did you have in
mind?
4) Is it possible to count the number of 1's in the Binary equivalence
?
Of course. First decide which binary equivalence you want, then decide
what you mean by count the number of 1s (do you mean the byte with
value 1, or the ASCII code for 1, or the bit 1?), then count them.
Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked
queries) ?
If you explain your question in more detail, we can give more detailed
answers.
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Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:22:29 PM UTC+5:30, Bharath Kummar wrote: Hello Sir/Mam, Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the concept in python language. My doubts are : 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? 2) Is it possible to Delete the Address of the Variable and create a new dynamic address inside the compiler/interpreter itself ? 3) Is it easy to find the Binary equivalence of a given Alphanumeric String ? 4) Is it possible to count the number of 1's in the Binary equivalence ? Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? Your reply counts a lot for me and my research ! I love to explore more in python. 1) id will give you addresses. Except that - not portable ie not guaranteed to be a m/c address - its of an object not a variable - if you are thinking C, its mostly useless 2) del will delete objects -- like free in C Except that like above, thinking in C will cause more problems than it solves 3,4 I cant make out what you mean -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help me to print to screen as well as log
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:51:21 -0800, Himanshu Garg wrote: I want that print hello should appear on screen as well as get saved in a log file. How can I accomplish this? print hello logfile.write(hello\n) Does that satisfy your need? If not, please explain in more detail what you are trying to do, what you have already tried, and what happened when you tried it. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Having trouble setting up an extremely simple server...
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Also, every semicolon we save can be broken down and res-used as TWO decimal points! The Americans use the top part, most other places use the bottom part. It's like a punctuation breeder reactor. One piece goes in, and two come out. That's only the glyph, though. You can't do that with the codepoints - all you end up with is a U+0003 'END OF TEXT' and a U+000B 'LINE TABULATION', useful occasionally but hardly in great demand. No, once you've broken the glyph apart, there's not a lot you can do with the codepoint, and they end up filling the nuclear waste disposal caverns. People keep coming up with schemes for utilizing waste U+0003s, but there's a fundamental problem that text can only end once [1], and all attempts to use U+0003 in commercial use resulted in the premature termination of the text concerned. Of course, the FDA put an immediate stop to that - so expensive to compensate the families of the terminated text - so we're back where we started. ChrisA [1] As is stated in the Holy Writ, Hebrews 9:27: Just as text is destined to end once, and after that to face judgment, so C strings receive but a single NUL to terminate the strings of many. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help me to print to screen as well as log
Himanshu Garg wrote: I want that print hello should appear on screen as well as get saved in a log file. How can I accomplish this? In Python 3 print() is a function -- you can replace it with a custom function that invokes the original print() twice. In both Python 3 and Python 2 you can redirect sys.stdout/stderr to a custom object with a write() method. If you are actually logging I suggest that you look into the logging package which allows multiple handlers, see http://docs.python.org/3.3/howto/logging.html You will need to replace your print() calls with some_logger.info(message) or similar. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:08:03 +0100, Peter Otten wrote: These things are nice to write as long as you omit the gory details, but personally I don't want to see the style it favours in my or other people's code. There's not really a lot of difference between: obj = MyClass() obj.spam() obj.eggs() obj.cheese() and obj = MyClass().spam().eggs().cheese() except the first takes up a lot more vertical space. Chained method calls is idiomatic in some languages. If there is a problem with it, it is that it doesn't make it clear that each method call is being used only for its side-effects, rather than it being a series of distinct objects. But in my opinion that flaw is a very minor one. The nice thing about using an explicit method chaining call rather than building your class to support it by default is that the initial call to the adaptor signals that everything that follows is called only for the side-effects. obj = chained(MyClass()).spam().eggs().cheese() -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 07:34:53 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/22/2013 6:26 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: A frequently missed feature is the ability to chain method calls: x = [] x.append(1).append(2).append(3).reverse().append(4) = x now equals [3, 2, 1, 4] This doesn't work with lists, as the methods return None True for the 7 pure mutation methods but not for .copy, .count, .index, and .pop. The last both mutates and returns. Yes, that is correct. In this case, the assumption behind the chained adapter is that we don't care about the results of calling those methods, we only care about the mutation they cause. If that's not the case, then chained() isn't for us. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
argparse feature request
I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd
like
to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default values.
For example, here's one of my programs:
python3 test_freq3.py --help
usage: test_freq3.py [-h] [--size SIZE] [--esnodB ESNODB] [--tau TAU] [--trials
TRIALS]
[--training TRAINING] [--sps SPS] [--si SI] [--alpha ALPHA]
[--range RANGE] [--dfunc {gradient,delay}]
[--mod
{gaussian,qpsk,8psk,16apsk,32apsk,32dlr,64apsk,256apsk}]
[--sym-freq-err SYM_FREQ_ERR] [--calibrate [CALIBRATE]]
optional arguments:
-h, --helpshow this help message and exit
--size SIZE
--esnodB ESNODB, -e ESNODB
--tau TAU, -t TAU
--trials TRIALS
--training TRAINING
--sps SPS
--si SI
--alpha ALPHA
--range RANGE
--dfunc {gradient,delay}
--mod {gaussian,qpsk,8psk,16apsk,32apsk,32dlr,64apsk,256apsk}
--sym-freq-err SYM_FREQ_ERR
--calibrate [CALIBRATE], --with-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --enable-calibrate
[CALIBRATE], --no-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --without-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --
disable-calibrate [CALIBRATE]
What I'd like to see is:
--size SIZE [2000] the default value is displayed
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Re: argparse feature request
On 2013-11-22 14:56, Neal Becker wrote:
I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd like
to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default values.
For example, here's one of my programs:
python3 test_freq3.py --help
usage: test_freq3.py [-h] [--size SIZE] [--esnodB ESNODB] [--tau TAU] [--trials
TRIALS]
[--training TRAINING] [--sps SPS] [--si SI] [--alpha
ALPHA]
[--range RANGE] [--dfunc {gradient,delay}]
[--mod
{gaussian,qpsk,8psk,16apsk,32apsk,32dlr,64apsk,256apsk}]
[--sym-freq-err SYM_FREQ_ERR] [--calibrate [CALIBRATE]]
optional arguments:
-h, --helpshow this help message and exit
--size SIZE
--esnodB ESNODB, -e ESNODB
--tau TAU, -t TAU
--trials TRIALS
--training TRAINING
--sps SPS
--si SI
--alpha ALPHA
--range RANGE
--dfunc {gradient,delay}
--mod {gaussian,qpsk,8psk,16apsk,32apsk,32dlr,64apsk,256apsk}
--sym-freq-err SYM_FREQ_ERR
--calibrate [CALIBRATE], --with-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --enable-calibrate
[CALIBRATE], --no-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --without-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --
disable-calibrate [CALIBRATE]
What I'd like to see is:
--size SIZE [2000] the default value is displayed
Use formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter
http://docs.python.org/2/library/argparse#argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter
E.g.
[git/mpstack]$ cat print_stacks.py
...
def main():
import argparse
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(
formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter)
parser.add_argument('-p', '--percent', action='store_true', help='Show
percentages.')
parser.add_argument('file', help='The sample file.')
...
[git/mpstack]$ python print_stacks.py -h
usage: print_stacks.py [-h] [-p] file
positional arguments:
file The sample file.
optional arguments:
-h, --help show this help message and exit
-p, --percent Show percentages. (default: False)
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that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth.
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Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:13 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: 2) del will delete objects -- like free in C Except that like above, thinking in C will cause more problems than it solves No, del will only delete name bindings. Whether the bound object is also deleted depends on whether it is still referenced, and the timing by which the bound object may be deleted varies between implementations. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On 2013-11-22, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? No. Variables in Python are not at fixed addresses, like in Pascal or C, they are names in a namespace. You can read this post for some more information about the difference between C variables and Python variables, and calling conventions across different languages: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2010-December/080505.html It's a long post, but to summarise the part about variables: In languages like Pascal or C, the compiler keeps a table mapping variable names to fixed memory addresses, like this: Variable Address === x 10234 y 10238 z 10242 FWIW, that's only true for some sorts of variables. Other variables have an address that is relative to a stack or frame pointer. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! PEGGY FLEMMING is at stealing BASKET BALLS to gmail.comfeed the babies in VERMONT. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:08:03 +0100, Peter Otten wrote: These things are nice to write as long as you omit the gory details, but personally I don't want to see the style it favours in my or other people's code. There's not really a lot of difference That cuts both ways ;) between: obj = MyClass() obj.spam() obj.eggs() obj.cheese() and obj = MyClass().spam().eggs().cheese() except the first takes up a lot more vertical space. I've not yet run short of vertical space ;) Chained method calls is idiomatic in some languages. Languages with mutable objects? If there is a problem with it, it is that it doesn't make it clear that each method call is being used only for its side-effects, rather than it being a series of distinct objects. But in my opinion that flaw is a very minor one. The nice thing about using an explicit method chaining call rather than building your class to support it by default is that the initial call to the adaptor signals that everything that follows is called only for the side-effects. obj = chained(MyClass()).spam().eggs().cheese() obj = MyClass(); obj.spam(); obj.eggs(); obj.cheese() OK, that one is disgusting... Anyway, I'd like to see a sequence of method names taken from actual code that profits from this chaining pattern. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On Friday, November 22, 2013 9:13:50 AM UTC-5, rusi wrote: On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:22:29 PM UTC+5:30, Bharath Kummar wrote: Hello Sir/Mam, Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the concept in python language. My doubts are : 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? 2) Is it possible to Delete the Address of the Variable and create a new dynamic address inside the compiler/interpreter itself ? 3) Is it easy to find the Binary equivalence of a given Alphanumeric String ? 4) Is it possible to count the number of 1's in the Binary equivalence ? Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? Your reply counts a lot for me and my research ! I love to explore more in python. 1) id will give you addresses. Except that - not portable ie not guaranteed to be a m/c address - its of an object not a variable - if you are thinking C, its mostly useless 2) del will delete objects -- like free in C Except that like above, thinking in C will cause more problems than it solves Not true: del doesn't delete objects. It merely removes references to objects. Only if the object has no more references is the object deleted. I tried my hand at explaining how names and values work in Python: http://nedbatchelder.com/text/names.html Some people have found it helpful. --Ned. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What's wrong?New hand.Head first pythonchapter7/8 webapp -No such CGI script
在 2013年11月22日星期五UTC+8下午4时48分35秒，曹守正写道：
My webapp is once good to use. Now I do not know what happened. It can not
work.
when i type http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/generate_list.py ,
http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/generate_timing_data.py, or anything after
cgi-bin in my chrome. It all turns out like Message: No such CGI script
('/cgi-bin/generate_timing_data.py'). Error code explanation: 404 - Nothing
matches the given URI.
I even download the webapp on http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfpython/
Still it does not work.
(you can download the app on the website,that is chapter 8. And the app is in
file webapp-chapter8)
Thank you!
在 2013年11月22日星期五UTC+8下午4时48分35秒，曹守正写道：
My webapp is once good to use. Now I do not know what happened. It can not
work.
when i type http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/generate_list.py ,
http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/generate_timing_data.py, or anything after
cgi-bin in my chrome. It all turns out like Message: No such CGI script
('/cgi-bin/generate_timing_data.py'). Error code explanation: 404 - Nothing
matches the given URI.
I even download the webapp on http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfpython/
Still it does not work.
(you can download the app on the website,that is chapter 8. And the app is in
file webapp-chapter8)
Thank you!
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Re: Method chaining
Op 22-11-13 16:20, Peter Otten schreef: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:08:03 +0100, Peter Otten wrote: These things are nice to write as long as you omit the gory details, but personally I don't want to see the style it favours in my or other people's code. There's not really a lot of difference That cuts both ways ;) between: obj = MyClass() obj.spam() obj.eggs() obj.cheese() and obj = MyClass().spam().eggs().cheese() except the first takes up a lot more vertical space. I've not yet run short of vertical space ;) Really? Then you must write only very short programs. Me I continuously run out of vertical space. That is why I need to use such tools as scroll bars. -- Antoon Pardon. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help me to print to screen as well as log
On 22/11/2013 14:15, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 05:51:21 -0800, Himanshu Garg wrote: I want that print hello should appear on screen as well as get saved in a log file. How can I accomplish this? print hello logfile.write(hello\n) Does that satisfy your need? If not, please explain in more detail what you are trying to do, what you have already tried, and what happened when you tried it. Fancy wasting vertical space like that, if you use a semi-colon you can save a whole lot of it like this print hello;logfile.write(hello\n) # :) -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:20:03 +0100, Peter Otten wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:08:03 +0100, Peter Otten wrote: These things are nice to write as long as you omit the gory details, but personally I don't want to see the style it favours in my or other people's code. There's not really a lot of difference That cuts both ways ;) Actually, I was wrong. See below. between: obj = MyClass() obj.spam() obj.eggs() obj.cheese() and obj = MyClass().spam().eggs().cheese() except the first takes up a lot more vertical space. I've not yet run short of vertical space ;) However, here is a real difference: # With chaining thing = func(MyClass().spam().eggs().cheese(), MyClass().aardvark(), OtherClass().fe().fi().fo().fum(), ) do_stuff_with(thing) versus: # Without chaining temp1 = MyClass() temp1.spam() temp1.eggs() temp1.cheese() temp2 = MyClass() temp2.aardvark() temp3 = OtherClass() temp3.fe() temp3.fi() temp3.fo() temp3.fum() thing = func(temp1, temp2, temp3) do_stuff_with(thing) In this case the chained version doesn't obscure the intention of the code anywhere near as much as the unchained version and its plethora of temporary variables. Chained method calls is idiomatic in some languages. Languages with mutable objects? Yes. It's a Design Pattern applicable to any language with mutator methods. Here are three examples in C#, Java and Ruby: http://mrbool.com/fluent-interface-and-method-chaining-a-good-programming-approach/26365 http://www.infoq.com/articles/internal-dsls-java http://blog.jayfields.com/2008/03/ruby-replace-temp-with-chain.html although in fairness I wouldn't call it idiomatic in C# or Java. Ruby 1.9 even added a new method to Object, tap, specifically to allow chaining of methods, which itself was copied from Ruby-On-Rails' returning helper. So I think it's fair to say that method chaining for mutation is idiomatic in Ruby. http://www.seejohncode.com/2012/01/02/ruby-tap-that/ http://blog.moertel.com/posts/2007-02-07-ruby-1-9-gets-handy-new-method-object-tap.html This idea goes back to Smalltalk, and is essentially just a pipeline. Hardly something weird. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_chaining (Technically, if the methods return self rather than None, it's method cascading. Chaining is any sequence of method calls, whether they return self or something else.) Dart includes syntax for method cascades, which I'm told looks like this: x = SomeClass() ..spam() ..eggs() ..cheese() The technique also comes with the blessing of Martin Fowler, where it is an important part of fluent interfaces: http://martinfowler.com/bliki/FluentInterface.html Quote: The common convention in the curly brace world is that modifier methods are void, which I like because it follows the principle of CommandQuerySeparation. This convention does get in the way of a fluent interface, so I'm inclined to suspend the convention for this case. And last but not least, if you want to go all the way down to the lambda calculus and combinator theory, my selfie adapter function is just a form of the K-combinator (a.k.a. the Kestrel). So there's a deep and powerful mathematical pedigree to the idea, if that matters. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Why pickling (was: Traceback when using multiprocessing)
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:24:05 PM UTC-8, Chris Angelico wrote: Oh, that part's easy. Let's leave the multiprocessing module out of it for the moment; imagine you spin up two completely separate instances of Python. Create some object in one of them; now, transfer it to the other. How are you going to do it? For what definition of completely separate? If I have two instances of the same version of the Python interpreter running on the same hardware, and the same operating system, I expect I would just copy a block of memory from one interpreter to the other, and then write some new pointers. That kind of data sharing has to be the most common kind. It's also the simplest. I understand that pickling allows sharing of Python objects between Python interpreters even if those interpreters run on different CPU's with different memory architecture, different operating systems, etc. It just seems like overkill to me to use pickling in the simple case. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dvalve! we called the heart of outsourcing world.
On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:44:38 AM UTC-8, kevow...@gmail.com wrote: You know your website doesn't work? Do you have any contact details You're responding to a (spam!) post which is dated April 9, 2010 -- two and a half years ago. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: argparse feature request
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2013-11-22 14:56, Neal Becker wrote:
I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd
like
to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default
values.
For example, here's one of my programs:
python3 test_freq3.py --help
usage: test_freq3.py [-h] [--size SIZE] [--esnodB ESNODB] [--tau TAU]
[--trials TRIALS]
[--training TRAINING] [--sps SPS] [--si SI] [--alpha
[ALPHA] --range RANGE] [--dfunc {gradient,delay}]
[--mod
{gaussian,qpsk,8psk,16apsk,32apsk,32dlr,64apsk,256apsk}]
[--sym-freq-err SYM_FREQ_ERR] [--calibrate [CALIBRATE]]
optional arguments:
-h, --helpshow this help message and exit
--size SIZE
--esnodB ESNODB, -e ESNODB
--tau TAU, -t TAU
--trials TRIALS
--training TRAINING
--sps SPS
--si SI
--alpha ALPHA
--range RANGE
--dfunc {gradient,delay}
--mod {gaussian,qpsk,8psk,16apsk,32apsk,32dlr,64apsk,256apsk}
--sym-freq-err SYM_FREQ_ERR
--calibrate [CALIBRATE], --with-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --enable-calibrate
[CALIBRATE], --no-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --without-calibrate [CALIBRATE], --
disable-calibrate [CALIBRATE]
What I'd like to see is:
--size SIZE [2000] the default value is displayed
Use formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter
http://docs.python.org/2/library/argparse#argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter
E.g.
[git/mpstack]$ cat print_stacks.py
...
def main():
import argparse
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(
formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter)
parser.add_argument('-p', '--percent', action='store_true', help='Show
percentages.')
parser.add_argument('file', help='The sample file.')
...
[git/mpstack]$ python print_stacks.py -h
usage: print_stacks.py [-h] [-p] file
positional arguments:
file The sample file.
optional arguments:
-h, --help show this help message and exit
-p, --percent Show percentages. (default: False)
Thanks! Almost perfect. Problem is, I don't usually bother to add help='help
me' options. It seems that ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter doesn't do anything
unless help='blah' option is used. Not sure what to do about that. Since
python test_freq3.py -h
produces useful messages without my adding help=... everywhere, it'd be nice
if ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter would work here.
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Re: Method chaining
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood.info writes: # With chaining thing = func(MyClass().spam().eggs().cheese(), MyClass().aardvark(), OtherClass().fe().fi().fo().fum(), ) do_stuff_with(thing) versus: # Without chaining temp1 = MyClass() temp1.spam() temp1.eggs() temp1.cheese() temp2 = MyClass() temp2.aardvark() temp3 = OtherClass() temp3.fe() temp3.fi() temp3.fo() temp3.fum() thing = func(temp1, temp2, temp3) do_stuff_with(thing) Another use case might be in comprehensions and generator expressions ?? thing = [MyClass().spam().eggs(x).cheese() for x in sequence] where you can't use all those temporary assignments. Best, Wolfgang -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: argparse feature request
On 2013-11-22 16:52, Neal Becker wrote: Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-22 14:56, Neal Becker wrote: I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd like to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default values. What I'd like to see is: --size SIZE [2000] the default value is displayed Use formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter http://docs.python.org/2/library/argparse#argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter Thanks! Almost perfect. Problem is, I don't usually bother to add help='help me' options. It seems that ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter doesn't do anything unless help='blah' option is used. Not sure what to do about that. Since python test_freq3.py -h produces useful messages without my adding help=... everywhere, it'd be nice if ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter would work here. Patches are welcome, I am sure. Implement a HelpFormatter that does what you want. _format_action() is where the relevant logic is. Try something like this, and modify to suit. class BeckerDefaultFormatter(argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter): def _format_action(self, action): monkeypatched = False if action.default is not None and action.help is None: # Trick the default _format_action() method into writing out # the defaults. action.help = ' ' monkeypatched = True formatted = super(BeckerDefaultFormatter, self)._format_action(action) if monkeypatched: action.help = None return formatted -- Robert Kern I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. -- Umberto Eco -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Having trouble setting up an extremely simple server...
- Original Message - Please help! I'm very new to networking, but I've been using Python for a while now, just recent;y getting into networking, trying to get things down. Hi, Nothing wrong with diving into the muddy waters of network programming. If you like blue lagoons like me, there's a lot of high level remote protocols/network engines/web frameworks that allow you to code applications without caring about networking code. Most of to more complex frameworks provide a simple way to write simple servers and clients. Be sure to check them out before writing your own (except for educational purpose) JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Method chaining
Wolfgang Maier wolfgang.maier at biologie.uni-freiburg.de writes: Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.python at pearwood.info writes: # With chaining thing = func(MyClass().spam().eggs().cheese(), MyClass().aardvark(), OtherClass().fe().fi().fo().fum(), ) do_stuff_with(thing) versus: # Without chaining temp1 = MyClass() temp1.spam() temp1.eggs() temp1.cheese() temp2 = MyClass() temp2.aardvark() temp3 = OtherClass() temp3.fe() temp3.fi() temp3.fo() temp3.fum() thing = func(temp1, temp2, temp3) do_stuff_with(thing) Another use case might be in comprehensions and generator expressions ?? thing = [MyClass().spam().eggs(x).cheese() for x in sequence] where you can't use all those temporary assignments. Best, Wolfgang Thinking about this, you could define __call__ for your chained class to return the wrapped object: class chained: def __init__(self, obj): self.obj = obj def __repr__(self): return repr(self.obj) def __getattr__(self, name): obj = getattr(self.obj, name) if callable(obj): def selfie(*args, **kw): # Call the method just for side-effects, return self. _ = obj(*args, **kw) return self return selfie else: return obj def __call__(self): return self.obj This would encourage its localized use on the fly as in: thing = [MyClass().spam().eggs(x).cheese()() for x in sequence] where the intention probably would be to generate a list of lists (or other mutable objects), not of objects of class chained. Localizing the use of chained also seems like a good idea to me as I do share Peter's worries about coding style, while I also agree with you that such a class comes in handy from time to time. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: argparse feature request
Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-22 16:52, Neal Becker wrote: Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-22 14:56, Neal Becker wrote: I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd like to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default values. What I'd like to see is: --size SIZE [2000] the default value is displayed Use formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter http://docs.python.org/2/library/argparse#argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter Thanks! Almost perfect. Problem is, I don't usually bother to add help='help me' options. It seems that ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter doesn't do anything unless help='blah' option is used. Not sure what to do about that. Since python test_freq3.py -h produces useful messages without my adding help=... everywhere, it'd be nice if ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter would work here. Patches are welcome, I am sure. Implement a HelpFormatter that does what you want. _format_action() is where the relevant logic is. Try something like this, and modify to suit. class BeckerDefaultFormatter(argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter): def _format_action(self, action): monkeypatched = False if action.default is not None and action.help is None: # Trick the default _format_action() method into writing out # the defaults. action.help = ' ' monkeypatched = True formatted = super(BeckerDefaultFormatter, self)._format_action(action) if monkeypatched: action.help = None return formatted Thanks! Seems to work great. It gave reasonable output for both case where I include help=... and also without. I have no idea how that above code works, but I guess as long as it works... -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to install pip for python3 on OS X?
On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 20/11/2013 06:55, Travis Griggs wrote: OSX (Mavericks) has python2.7 stock installed. But I do all my own personal python stuff with 3.3. I just flushed my 3.3.2 install and installed the new 3.3.3. So I need to install pyserial again. Just idle curiosity but why do you have to do this? On Windows I just whack 3.3.3 over the top of 3.3.2, job done. I think in this case, it was a chance to clean house, and maybe up the “tools” game (e.g. use pip) instead of what I had been doing. So you’re correct. The flushing of 3.3.2 was more that I *wanted* to, instead of *needing* to. (aside. I do not use GoogleGroups, but have been accused of somehow sending email that looks like I do. Does this email look like that?) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to install pip for python3 on OS X?
On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article 6856a21c-57e8-4cdd-a9e8-5dd738c36...@gmail.com, Travis Griggs travisgri...@gmail.com wrote: OSX (Mavericks) has python2.7 stock installed. But I do all my own personal python stuff with 3.3. I just flushed my 3.3.2 install and installed the new 3.3.3. So I need to install pyserial again. I can do it the way I've done it before, which is: Download pyserial from pypi untar pyserial.tgz cd pyserial python3 setup.py install But I'd like to do like the cool kids do, and just do something like pip3 install pyserial. But it's not clear how I get to that point. And just that point. Not interested (unless I have to be) in virtualenv yet.- http://www.pip-installer.org/en/latest/installing.html # download and install setuptools curl -O https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/raw/bootstrap/ez_setup.py python3 ez_setup.py # download and install pip curl -O https://raw.github.com/pypa/pip/master/contrib/get-pip.py python3 get-pip.py # use pip to install python3 -m pip install pyserial # Don't want it? python3 -m pip uninstall pyserial -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org Ned, Thank you! Belatedly. I’ve had some fires to put out at work. And have gotten back to this, and this is exactly what I was looking for. I added the additional step of: cd /usr/local/bin ln -s ../../../Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.3/bin/pip pip Works, like a charm. (aside. I do not use GoogleGroups, but have been accused of somehow sending email that looks like I do. Does this email look like that?) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to install pip for python3 on OS X?
On Friday 2013 November 22 12:10, Travis Griggs wrote: (aside. I do not use GoogleGroups, but have been accused of somehow sending email that looks like I do. Does this email look like that?) No. -- Yonder nor sorghum stenches shut ladle gulls stopper torque wet strainers. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: argparse feature request
On 2013-11-22 18:15, Neal Becker wrote: Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-22 16:52, Neal Becker wrote: Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-22 14:56, Neal Becker wrote: I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd like to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default values. What I'd like to see is: --size SIZE [2000] the default value is displayed Use formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter http://docs.python.org/2/library/argparse#argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter Thanks! Almost perfect. Problem is, I don't usually bother to add help='help me' options. It seems that ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter doesn't do anything unless help='blah' option is used. Not sure what to do about that. Since python test_freq3.py -h produces useful messages without my adding help=... everywhere, it'd be nice if ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter would work here. Patches are welcome, I am sure. Implement a HelpFormatter that does what you want. _format_action() is where the relevant logic is. Try something like this, and modify to suit. class BeckerDefaultFormatter(argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter): def _format_action(self, action): monkeypatched = False if action.default is not None and action.help is None: # Trick the default _format_action() method into writing out # the defaults. action.help = ' ' monkeypatched = True formatted = super(BeckerDefaultFormatter, self)._format_action(action) if monkeypatched: action.help = None return formatted Thanks! Seems to work great. It gave reasonable output for both case where I include help=... and also without. I have no idea how that above code works, but I guess as long as it works... Just take a look at the implementation of HelpFormatter._format_action() and look for where my monkeypatch would change the logic. It took me just a few minutes to figure out how to do it in the first place. There really isn't anything tricky going on. -- Robert Kern I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. -- Umberto Eco -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Periodic execution with asyncio
Hello guys,
I am using the asyncio package (Codename 'Tulip'), which will be
available in Python 3.4, for the first time.
I want the event loop to run a function periodically (e.g. every 2
seconds). PEP 3156 suggests two ways to implement such a periodic call:
1. Using a callback that reschedules itself, using call_later().
2. Using a coroutine containing a loop and a sleep() call.
I implemented the first approach in a class with an easy to use
interface. It can be subclassed and the run() method
can be overwritten to provide the code that will be called periodically.
The interval is specified in the constructor and the task can be started
and stopped:
import asyncio
class PeriodicTask(object):
def __init__(self, interval):
self._interval = interval
self._loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
def _run(self):
self.run()
self._handler = self._loop.call_later(self._interval, self._run)
def run(self):
print('Hello World')
def start(self):
self._handler = self._loop.call_later(self._interval, self._run)
def stop(self):
self._handler.cancel()
To run this task and execute run() every 2 seconds you can do:
task = PeriodicTask(2)
task.start()
asyncio.get_event_loop().run_forever()
So far, this works for me. But as I have no experience with asynchronous
IO I have two questions:
1. Is this a reasonable implementation or is there anything to improve?
2. How would you implement the second approach from the PEP (using a
coroutine) with the same interface as my PeriodicTask above?
I tried the second approach but wasn't able to come up with a solution,
as I was too confused by the concepts of coroutines, Tasks, etc.
Regards,
Tobias
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Re: Why pickling (was: Traceback when using multiprocessing)
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 3:38 AM, John Ladasky john_lada...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:24:05 PM UTC-8, Chris Angelico wrote: Oh, that part's easy. Let's leave the multiprocessing module out of it for the moment; imagine you spin up two completely separate instances of Python. Create some object in one of them; now, transfer it to the other. How are you going to do it? For what definition of completely separate? If I have two instances of the same version of the Python interpreter running on the same hardware, and the same operating system, I expect I would just copy a block of memory from one interpreter to the other, and then write some new pointers. That kind of data sharing has to be the most common kind. It's also the simplest. Okay, so you copy a block of memory. Now how are you going to guarantee that you picked up everything that object references? Python objects frequently reference other objects: send_me = [1.0, 2.0, 3.0] The block of memory might have the addresses of those three floats, but that'll be invalid in the target. Somehow you need to package up this object and everything else you need. Ultimately, you need some system for turning a single object reference (a pointer, if you like) into the entire package of information needed to recreate that object on the other side. That's what pickling is. It's a compact (with people to fight for its compactness, there's current discussion elsewhere about that) format that can be easily transferred around, which refcounted blocks of memory can't. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
python for everyday tasks
Hello, I'm about held a short course with the title indicated in the subjects. The students are very experienced programmers of our company, with deep knoledge on C, C++, C#, Perl and similar languages, but very limited, or absolutely no knowledge on python. what would you teach to such a group in 5x1.5 hours? I'm looking for the most interesting, unique topics, emphesizing python's strong points. I have already a couple ideas: - a general intro about tuples, lists, dicts, sets, and working with these - functional programming tools, functools, itertools, lambda, map, filter - wsgi, pickle I'd appreciate a lot if you could add some ideas thanks, Mate -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Periodic execution with asyncio
On 11/22/2013 4:30 PM, Tobias M. wrote:
I am using the asyncio package (Codename 'Tulip'), which will be
available in Python 3.4, for the first time.
Great. New stuff, both behavior and API, needs to be 'exercised',
especially by non-experts in the subject. I have no experience with
async stuff either.
I want the event loop to run a function periodically (e.g. every 2
seconds). PEP 3156 suggests two ways to implement such a periodic call:
The PEP is still the doc, and the Library Manual entry is a stub
pointing back to it.
http://python.org/dev/peps/pep-3156/
1. Using a callback that reschedules itself, using call_later().
2. Using a coroutine containing a loop and a sleep() call.
I implemented the first approach in a class with an easy to use
interface. It can be subclassed and the run() method
can be overwritten to provide the code that will be called periodically.
The interval is specified in the constructor and the task can be started
and stopped:
import asyncio
class PeriodicTask(object):
def __init__(self, interval):
self._interval = interval
self._loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
def _run(self):
self.run()
self._handler = self._loop.call_later(self._interval, self._run)
def run(self):
print('Hello World')
def start(self):
self._handler = self._loop.call_later(self._interval, self._run)
def stop(self):
self._handler.cancel()
To run this task and execute run() every 2 seconds you can do:
task = PeriodicTask(2)
task.start()
asyncio.get_event_loop().run_forever()
1. Is this a reasonable implementation or is there anything to improve?
It may be both reasonable and subject to change. Here is my version,
with the following changes
* Make the task function a parameter 'func'.
* Rename start to _set to better describe what is does and call it in
the _run function to not repeat the handler setting line. (If 'start'
has any magic meaning, I am not aware of it. I am aware that there could
be situations in which one would want a public method, to be called from
other handlers. But that would be a different class ;-)
* Fully initialize the instance in __init__ by calling _set.
* Provide a clean way to stop the event loop without a traceback (or
using Windows Task Manager.
* Comment out the stop method because it is useless in the current
usage. I believe handler.cancel is only relevant after the handler is
set and before it is fired. This can only be done from another handler.
import asyncio
class PeriodicTask(object):
def __init__(self, func, interval):
self.func = func
self.interval = interval
self._loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
self._set()
def _set(self):
self._handler = self._loop.call_later(self.interval, self._run)
def _run(self):
self.func()
self._set()
## def stop(self):
## self._handler.cancel()
def f():
print('Hello World')
task = PeriodicTask(f, 2)
try:
asyncio.get_event_loop().run_forever()
except KeyboardInterrupt:
print('Loop stopped')
2. How would you implement the second approach from the PEP (using a
coroutine) with the same interface as my PeriodicTask above?
Theoretically, by Guido's rationale, that should be easier (for me, at
least), since it would be more like the kind of Python code I already write.
I tried the second approach but wasn't able to come up with a solution,
as I was too confused by the concepts of coroutines, Tasks, etc.
I will try to look at the PEP and see how it works for me.
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find matching contiguous text
Hi. I have a xpath test that generates the text/html between two xpath functions, basically a chunk of HTML between two dom elements. However, it's slow. As a test, I'd like to compare the speed if I get all the HTML following a given element, and then get all the HTML preceding a given element.. and then do a union/join/intersection of the text between the two text segments. I'm trying to find an efficient/effective approach to determining the contiguous matching text, where the text starts with the 1st line in the test from the following element test. Thanks -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Recursive generator for combinations of a multiset?
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:59:26 -0800 Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM, John O'Hagan resea...@johnohagan.comwrote: Short story: the subject says it all, so if you have an answer already, fire away. Below is the long story of what I'm using it for, and why I think it needs to be recursive. It may even be of more general interest in terms of filtering the results of generators. I think you probably need permutations rather than combinations. Also, I think you'll need to form a word (partitioned off by spaces), and then check it against a set containing /usr/share/dict/words before recursing for the remainder of the sentence - this should speed things up a LOT. Thanks for the reply. If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting permuting the input _characters_ to form words and then seeing if they exist, as opposed to my approach of combining known words and seeing if they are anagrams. (Permutations of words would not help find anagrams as they merely change the word order). Here is an attempt at that: def anagrams(partition, input_string): Find anagrams which fit given partition of input string length if not partition: yield (), input_string return for words, checkstring in anagrams(partition[:-1], input_string): for word in itertools.permutations(checkstring, partition[-1]): word = ''.join(word) if word in WORDS: #WORDS is collection of dictionary words newstring = checkstring for l in word: newstring = newstring.replace(l, '' , 1) yield words + (word,), newstring There are two problems with this. If there are repeated characters in the input, redundant results are produced; a multiset-permutation algorithm would fix this. But the main problem is it is incredibly slow: on my run-of-the-mill laptop, it chokes on anything longer than about 10 characters, spending most of its time rejecting non-words. Or have I misunderstood your suggestion? Regards, -- John -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Recursive generator for combinations of a multiset?
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:14:41 -0800 (PST)
James hslee...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:01:15 AM UTC-8, John O'Hagan wrote:
[...]
On 21 November 2013 06:46, John O'Hagan
wrote:
[...]
def multicombs(it, r):
result = it[:r]
yield result
while 1:
for i in range(-1, -r - 1, -1):
rep = result[i]
if rep it[i]:
break
else:
break
for j, n in enumerate(it):
if n rep:
break
result = result[:i] + it[j:j - i]
yield result
[...]
I neglected to mention that multicombs takes a sorted iterable;
it doesn't work right otherwise. I'd forgotten that because my
wordlists are guaranteed sorted by the way they're built. Sorry
about
that.
In my use-case the first argument to multicombs is a tuple of words
which may contain duplicates, and it produces all unique
combinations
of a certain length of those words, eg:
list(multicombs(('cat', 'hat', 'in', 'the', 'the'), 3))
[('cat', 'hat', 'in'), ('cat', 'hat', 'the'), ('cat', 'in', 'the'),
('cat', 'the', 'the'), ('hat', 'in', 'the'), ('hat', 'the', 'the'),
('in', 'the', 'the')]
[...]
What I'm looking for is a recursive algorithm which does what
multicombs does (order unimportant) so that I can apply a pruning
shortcut like the one I used in the recursive cartesian product
algorithm in my original post.
Multiset combination algorithms seem pretty thin on the ground out
there - as I said, I could only find a description of the procedure
above, no actual code. The ones I did find are non-recursive. I'm
hoping some combinatorics and/or recursion experts can offer
advice.
[...]
John
Could convert the following perl script to python?
use Data::Dump qw(dump);
dump combo([@ARGV], 3);
sub combo {
my ($t, $k) = @_;
my @T = @$t;
my @R = ();
my %g = ();
if ($k == 1) {
for (@T) {
push @R, $_ unless $g{$_}++;
}
} else {
while (my $x = shift @T) {
$p = combo([@T], $k-1);
for (@{$p}) {
my $q = $x.,.$_;
push @R, $q unless $g{$q}++;
}
}
}
[@R];
}
$ prog.pl cat hat in the the
[
cat,hat,in,
cat,hat,the,
cat,in,the,
cat,the,the,
hat,in,the,
hat,the,the,
in,the,the,
]
James
Thanks. Now I just have to learn Perl to understand what that
does! :)
Regards,
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Re: Periodic execution with asyncio
On 11/22/2013 7:00 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 11/22/2013 4:30 PM, Tobias M. wrote:
[snip callback versions by Tobias and me]
2. How would you implement the second approach from the PEP (using a
coroutine) with the same interface as my PeriodicTask above?
Theoretically, by Guido's rationale, that should be easier (for me, at
least), since it would be more like the kind of Python code I already
write.
I tried the second approach but wasn't able to come up with a solution,
as I was too confused by the concepts of coroutines, Tasks, etc.
I will try to look at the PEP and see how it works for me.
I was initially baffled also until I managed to assemble all the needed
pieces.
import asyncio
def f():
print('Hello World')
@asyncio.coroutine
def g(func, interval):
while True:
yield from asyncio.sleep(interval)
func()
loop = asyncio.get_event_loop()
try:
loop.run_until_complete(asyncio.Task(g(f, 2)))
except KeyboardInterrupt:
print('Loop stopped')
I think Guido's point is that async generator version is quite similar
to the 'normal' synchronous version.
import time
def f():
print('Hello World')
def h(func, interval):
while True:
time.sleep(interval)
func()
try:
h(f, 2))
except KeyboardInterrupt:
print('Loop stopped')
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Re: Suggest an open-source issue tracker, with github integration and kanban boards?
Miki: I would much prefer a Python implementation. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Miki Tebeka miki.teb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:36:56 AM UTC-8, Alec Taylor wrote: Anyway, here is the link: https://github.com/rauhryan/huboard I thought you wanted a Python bases solution. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
select.select()
please help me.. what does the following line do? read_sockets,write_sockets,error_sockets = select.select(CONNECTION_LIST,[],[]) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the concept in python language. My doubts are : 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? 2) Is it possible to Delete the Address of the Variable and create a new dynamic address inside the compiler/interpreter itself ? 3) Is it easy to find the Binary equivalence of a given Alphanumeric String ? 4) Is it possible to count the number of 1's in the Binary equivalence ? Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? The codes are: 1) 7373a28109a7c4473a475b2137aa92d5 2) f2fae9a4ad5ded75e4d8ac34b90d5c9c 3) 935544894ca6ad7239e0df048b9ec3e5 4) b1bc9942d029a4a67e4b368a1ff8d883 Please contact your local government eavesdropping agency for assistance on decoding the codes. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python for everyday tasks
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:59:19 -0800, koch.mate wrote:
Hello,
I'm about held a short course with the title indicated in the subjects.
The students are very experienced programmers of our company, with deep
knoledge on C, C++, C#, Perl and similar languages, but very limited, or
absolutely no knowledge on python.
what would you teach to such a group in 5x1.5 hours? I'm looking for the
most interesting, unique topics, emphesizing python's strong points.
I have already a couple ideas:
- a general intro about tuples, lists, dicts, sets, and working with
these - functional programming tools, functools, itertools, lambda,
map, filter - wsgi, pickle
Do you have any system administrators in the audience? If so, I'd show
the IPython shell, which includes a lot of custom magic to make it a
powerful shell as easy to use as bash. For example, compare the regular
Python REPL:
py import os, glob
py glob.glob(os.path.expanduser('~/lam*'))
['/home/steve/lambert.ods', '/home/steve/lambert.csv', '/home/steve/
lambertw.pdf', '/home/steve/lambert-v2.pdf', '/home/steve/lambert.txt']
with the IPython shell:
In [1]: ls ~/lam*
/home/steve/lambert.csv /home/steve/lambert.txt /home/steve/
lambertw.pdf
/home/steve/lambert.ods /home/steve/lambert-v2.pdf
You'll probably want to discuss the similarities and differences between
Python and other languages. In my experience, the most confusing part of
learning a new language is the things which are *almost* but not quite
the same, rather than those which are radically different. When things
are obviously different, you come in to it with no preconceived ideas.
* Python uses name binding, not variables at fixed locations;
* therefore there are no pointers (except under the hood, in the
implementation);
* but you won't miss them. Honest.
* Python uses call by object sharing, which is exactly the same calling
convention that the Java people call call by value and Ruby people call
call by reference. Here's an opinionated post I wrote some years ago
describing the differences:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2010-December/080505.html
* Python is not Java, and Java is not Python either:
http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html
http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/java-is-not-python-either.html
* Everything in Python is an object. *Everything*. There is no
distinction between boxed and unboxed integers, for example, they're all
boxed.
* When I say everything, I mean it. Functions and methods are objects
too. So are classes, and yes, that means that you can inspect the class
of a class (the metaclass).
* Need high performance numeric computing? Python tools like numpy,
pandas, nltk and others are rapidly becoming *the* standard tool for
numeric and scientific computing:
http://blog.mikiobraun.de/2013/11/how-python-became-the-language-of-
choice-for-data-science.html
http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2013/11/18/the-homogenization-of-
scientific-computing-or-why-python-is-steadily-eating-other-languages-
lunch/
* Some terminology differences:
- What some languages call members, or class variables and
instance variables, Python usually calls class or instance
attributes. (Although the documentation is a tad inconsistent
in this.) This makes sense: if a string variable is a
variable holding a string, and an int variable is a variable
holding an int, then surely a class variable is a variable
holding a class. (Remember what I said about classes being
objects too?)
- Python class methods are what Java calls static methods, and
Python static methods are kind of like functions only not.
(You'll probably never find a good use for static methods in
Python.)
- There are no procedures or void functions in Python, but
there are functions which return None, which is as close as
you'll get to nil or null.
- I already mentioned the pass by object sharing thing.
* The Zen of Python: at the interactive interpreter, type import this.
It's not quite a joke and not quite serious, but a little of both, and it
gives a good insight into what the Python core developers consider best
practice.
* Note to Perl coders: you'll notice that Only One Way To Do It is NOT
in there, and it never has been.
* Docstrings and doctest.
* Unittest is great for test-driven development.
* Python 3 (although not Python 2) is one of the few languages that get
Unicode *right*. Strings in Python 3 are text, sequences of Unicode
characters, not a thinly disguised blob of bytes. Starting with Python
3.3, Python does away with the difference between narrow builds (which
save memory at the expense of correctness) and wide builds (which give
correct Unicode behaviour at the cost of memory). Instead, Python 3.3 now
has optimized strings that use only as much memory as needed. Pure ASCII
strings will use 1 byte per character, while Unicode strings use 1, 2 or
4 bytes per character as needed.
Re: Newbie - Trying to Help a Friend
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:38:14 +, Duncan Booth wrote: Denis McMahon denismfmcma...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Find all the numbers less than n that are not divisible by a, b, or c. ask the user for x; assign the value 0 to some other variable i; while i is not greater than than x do the following [ if i is not divisible by a and i is not divisible by b and i is not divisible by c then display i to the user; add 1 to i; ] The question didn't ask to find all the numbers, it asked to count how many there are. My post was intended as a demonstration of how you can convert a problem into a sequence of steps that can then be programmed into a computer. Any resemblance to the posted question may have been accidental. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: select.select()
In article b8d42424-e0ab-4595-9c87-25e5c1b53...@googlegroups.com,
Bhanu Karthik bhanukarthik2...@gmail.com wrote:
please help me.. what does the following line do?
read_sockets,write_sockets,error_sockets =
select.select(CONNECTION_LIST,[],[])
This is a little tricky.
First,read the docs at http://docs.python.org/2/library/select.html.
There's a lot of complicated stuff there, but just concentrate on the
description of the select.select() call for now.
Imagine a process which has a lot of network connections open. A great
example would be something like a MUD (Multi User Dungeon). You've got
one server process(*) and a bunch of clients which have all made TCP
connections over individual sockets.
Each client will be sending commands asynchronously, and the server
needs to handle this. You need some way to figure out which of those
sockets have something that's been sent to you (which you need to
process) and which are just sitting idle. That's where select() comes
in. It gives you a way to say, Here's a list of sockets. Sleep until
one of them has something available for me to read, and let me know
which one.
One bit of complication is that you can also check for sockets which are
ready to be written on, and sockets which have some sort of error
condition. That's why the call returns a 3-tuple. But, for now, let's
just concentrate on reading.
Here's a very simplistic server which uses select():
import socket
import select
sock = socket.socket()
sock.bind(('localhost', 23000))
sock.listen(10)
# Accept four connections.
connections = []
for i in range(4):
s, addr = sock.accept()
print Got connection from %s % str(addr)
connections.append(s)
while True:
readable, _, _ = select.select(connections, [], [])
print ready for reading: %s % readable
for s in readable:
data = s.recv(1024)
print Read from %s: %s % (s, data)
You can write a little client which connects to this (I've got one I
used for testing, but I'll leave it to you to write one yourself as an
exercise). Connect four clients, and have them send some input in
random order.
Actually, this server has a bug (which you'll discover as soon as you
close one of the four connection), but it should serve to illustrate the
basic concept.
(*) I'm not sure if real MUDs are programmed this way, but it's a
plausible architecture. For simplicity sake, I'm assuming a
single-threaded server.
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Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? The codes are: 1) 7373a28109a7c4473a475b2137aa92d5 2) f2fae9a4ad5ded75e4d8ac34b90d5c9c 3) 935544894ca6ad7239e0df048b9ec3e5 4) b1bc9942d029a4a67e4b368a1ff8d883 Please contact your local government eavesdropping agency for assistance on decoding the codes. I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that dialect it is grammatically correct to say the codes, just as in UK and US English it is grammatically correct to say the programs. In other words, in UK/US English, code in the sense of programming code is an uncountable noun, like rice or air, while in Indian English it is a countable noun like cats or programs. We have to say give me two samples of code, or perhaps two code samples, while an Indian speaker might say give me two codes. As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances for slight difference in dialect. Aside: I love the fact that pea, as in green peas or black-eyed peas, is a back-formation from an uncountable noun. Originally English had the word pease, as in pease porridge hot from the nursery rhyme. Like wheat, rice, barley and others, You would have to say something like give me a grain of pease if you only wanted one. Eventually, people began to assume that pease, or peas, was the plural and therefore pea must be the singular. I look forward to the day that rice is the plural of ri :-) -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
Try posting in text, as some of us see nothing in your message. This is a text newsgroup, not html. Also make a subject line that summarizes your issue, not the urgency. -- DaveA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: select.select()
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:42:07 -0800, Bhanu Karthik wrote: please help me.. what does the following line do? read_sockets,write_sockets,error_sockets = select.select(CONNECTION_LIST,[],[]) The select.select function takes three arguments (plus an optional fourth): select.select(read_list, write_list, exception_list) Each list should a list of the file descriptors you want to wait for. On Windows, only sockets are valid file descriptors. On Unix or Linux, you can use sockets, open file objects, or low-level file descriptors. In this case, you only pass CONNECTION_LIST, the others are empty lists []. CONNECTION_LIST is probably a list of sockets to be read. When they are ready for reading, select() will return three lists: read_sockets - a list of the sockets open for reading write_sockets and error_sockets should both be empty lists, since you didn't request any of those to be opened. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python for everyday tasks
On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:59:19 PM UTC-5, koch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm about held a short course with the title indicated in the subjects. The students are very experienced programmers of our company, with deep knoledge on C, C++, C#, Perl and similar languages, but very limited, or absolutely no knowledge on python. what would you teach to such a group in 5x1.5 hours? I'm looking for the most interesting, unique topics, emphesizing python's strong points. I have already a couple ideas: - a general intro about tuples, lists, dicts, sets, and working with these - functional programming tools, functools, itertools, lambda, map, filter - wsgi, pickle I'd appreciate a lot if you could add some ideas thanks, Mate I gave a 45-minute presentation at the DevDays conference in 2009 to introduce programmers to Python. The slides are here: http://nedbatchelder.com/text/devdays.html Sorry there's no text to go with them. They introduce the good points of Python, then go through two code exercises: Peter Norvig's spellchecker, which is great for showing off data structures; and a micro templating engine, which takes advantage of Python's dynamic nature. --Ned. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Recursive generator for combinations of a multiset?
On 23/11/2013 00:58, John O'Hagan wrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:59:26 -0800 Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM, John O'Hagan resea...@johnohagan.comwrote: Short story: the subject says it all, so if you have an answer already, fire away. Below is the long story of what I'm using it for, and why I think it needs to be recursive. It may even be of more general interest in terms of filtering the results of generators. I think you probably need permutations rather than combinations. Also, I think you'll need to form a word (partitioned off by spaces), and then check it against a set containing /usr/share/dict/words before recursing for the remainder of the sentence - this should speed things up a LOT. Thanks for the reply. If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting permuting the input _characters_ to form words and then seeing if they exist, as opposed to my approach of combining known words and seeing if they are anagrams. (Permutations of words would not help find anagrams as they merely change the word order). Here is an attempt at that: def anagrams(partition, input_string): Find anagrams which fit given partition of input string length if not partition: yield (), input_string return for words, checkstring in anagrams(partition[:-1], input_string): for word in itertools.permutations(checkstring, partition[-1]): word = ''.join(word) if word in WORDS: #WORDS is collection of dictionary words newstring = checkstring for l in word: newstring = newstring.replace(l, '' , 1) yield words + (word,), newstring There are two problems with this. If there are repeated characters in the input, redundant results are produced; a multiset-permutation algorithm would fix this. But the main problem is it is incredibly slow: on my run-of-the-mill laptop, it chokes on anything longer than about 10 characters, spending most of its time rejecting non-words. Or have I misunderstood your suggestion? If you want to know how to get unique permutations, have a look here: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2013-October/023610.html -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: select.select()
On Friday, 22 November 2013 18:29:12 UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:42:07 -0800, Bhanu Karthik wrote: please help me.. what does the following line do? read_sockets,write_sockets,error_sockets = select.select(CONNECTION_LIST,[],[]) The select.select function takes three arguments (plus an optional fourth): select.select(read_list, write_list, exception_list) Each list should a list of the file descriptors you want to wait for. On Windows, only sockets are valid file descriptors. On Unix or Linux, you can use sockets, open file objects, or low-level file descriptors. In this case, you only pass CONNECTION_LIST, the others are empty lists []. CONNECTION_LIST is probably a list of sockets to be read. When they are ready for reading, select() will return three lists: read_sockets - a list of the sockets open for reading write_sockets and error_sockets should both be empty lists, since you didn't request any of those to be opened. -- Steven Thank you ,your message answered the question exactly. instead of using select.select,can we do like below? read_sockets=connection_list write_sockets=[] error_sockets=[] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: select.select()
On Friday, 22 November 2013 18:15:10 UTC-8, Roy Smith wrote:
In article b8d42424-e0ab-4595-9c87-25e5c1b53...@googlegroups.com,
Bhanu Karthik bhanukarthik2...@gmail.com wrote:
please help me.. what does the following line do?
read_sockets,write_sockets,error_sockets =
select.select(CONNECTION_LIST,[],[])
This is a little tricky.
First,read the docs at http://docs.python.org/2/library/select.html.
There's a lot of complicated stuff there, but just concentrate on the
description of the select.select() call for now.
Imagine a process which has a lot of network connections open. A great
example would be something like a MUD (Multi User Dungeon). You've got
one server process(*) and a bunch of clients which have all made TCP
connections over individual sockets.
Each client will be sending commands asynchronously, and the server
needs to handle this. You need some way to figure out which of those
sockets have something that's been sent to you (which you need to
process) and which are just sitting idle. That's where select() comes
in. It gives you a way to say, Here's a list of sockets. Sleep until
one of them has something available for me to read, and let me know
which one.
One bit of complication is that you can also check for sockets which are
ready to be written on, and sockets which have some sort of error
condition. That's why the call returns a 3-tuple. But, for now, let's
just concentrate on reading.
Here's a very simplistic server which uses select():
import socket
import select
sock = socket.socket()
sock.bind(('localhost', 23000))
sock.listen(10)
# Accept four connections.
connections = []
for i in range(4):
s, addr = sock.accept()
print Got connection from %s % str(addr)
connections.append(s)
while True:
readable, _, _ = select.select(connections, [], [])
print ready for reading: %s % readable
for s in readable:
data = s.recv(1024)
print Read from %s: %s % (s, data)
You can write a little client which connects to this (I've got one I
used for testing, but I'll leave it to you to write one yourself as an
exercise). Connect four clients, and have them send some input in
random order.
Actually, this server has a bug (which you'll discover as soon as you
close one of the four connection), but it should serve to illustrate the
basic concept.
(*) I'm not sure if real MUDs are programmed this way, but it's a
plausible architecture. For simplicity sake, I'm assuming a
single-threaded server.
Thank you for your reply.your reply helped me figure out concept.
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JSON translated into SQL by python
I am new to programming python for JSON to SQL and I was wondering why this does not work. All the values for entering the DB are correct. The EnterpriseValue data is not entering the database. #collect data from JSON source at Yahoo url = [db, http://y.ahoo.it/wlB89;] #check all sites checkstatus(url[]); #retrieve EnterpriseValue data from yahoo to DB url = http://y.ahoo.it/wlB89; data = helper.openJSON_URL(url) #store data curObservation = data[EnterpriseValue] #connect to amazon and post data from Yahoo conn = inti_psql_amazon(db name, db user, password, db source) query = CREATE TABLE temp2 (ID int NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT, Enterprise_Value float, PRIMARY KEY(ID)); query = INSERT INTO TABLE temp2 (enterprise) VALUES(+ str(curObservation) +); do_query_amazon(conn, query) close_psql_amazon(conn) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python for everyday tasks
Teach that Python emphasizes readability. Perhaps talk about bugs / lines_of_code being roughly a constant. Then talk about the fact that Python generally takes fewer lines of code to express the same thing. This implies fewer bugs for many projects. Teach the fundamental types, with differences from other languages: int, float (C double), decimal, maybe fractions. Booleans. lists, arrays, dictionaries, sets, tuples, frozensets. Teach that variables don't have a type, but values do. Teach a = b. Teach a, b = b, a. Teach that python is duck typed (dynamically typed), and isn't manifestly or statically typed. Provide definitions. Discuss what it means to be strongly typed, which doesn't mean what a lot of people think it does: Python is strongly typed, the main exception being that you can use almost anything in a boolean context. Teach the control flow, with differences from other languages: while, for/else, if/elif/else. break/continue, list comprehensions, and maybe generator expressions. Include things like enumerate() and iterators and with statements. Probably do yield too - it's not crucial to being productive in python, but it's plenty useful; probably show how it can generate powers of 2 forever or something. Teach that python has builtins, not keywords - IOW, you can redefine list or int, but you probably shouldn't. pylint helps with this. Teach classes with __init__. Teach __str__, __repr__, and teach __cmp__ or __lt__ (depending on your python version), and perhaps some other magic methods like (a subset of) emulating a container, or emulating a number. Maybe talk about Python's stellar built in Timsort that was later adopted by Java. Teach pylint, including how to turn off unimportant warnings; I usually do this in my code, but you can also use a pylintrc. A short time talking about pylint (or pychecker or pyflakes, and perhaps pep8 too) should help them teach themselves quite a bit - think of these as expert systems about how to write better python. Personally, I use a pyflakes plugin in vim, but my default make rule invokes pylint for the entire project, as well as my automated tests one at a time. Sometimes my default make rule does pep8 too, but not always; pylint covers a lot of what pep8 does anyway. Touch briefly on a cross-platform debugger like winpdb (it's cross-platform despite the name) or pudb. Some people will prefer to just do print functions/statements (again depending on python version), but others will really value the debugger, and some people will use some of both. Stress the importance of automated tests relative to other languages. IMO, even with pylint, having plenty of good automated tests is crucial in a large python project, especially if it's multi-programmer. If you have time, provide some guidance about whether to use Python 2.x or 3.x. IMO, projects that have their dependencies satisfied in 3.x (or have no dependencies!), should use 3.x today. Otherwise, use 2.x with from __future__ imports where practical. Talk about decorators. If you have time, maybe talk about available interpreters: CPython 2.x, CPython 3.x, Jython (python in java that can call java classes), Pypy (python in python with a JIT), IronPython (IronPython lacks a standard library for the most part, but lets you talk to .net classes). Maybe also talk about Python in the browser: http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/pybrowser/python-browser.html . There was a time when Jython could be used for in-browser-python by generating .class files, but I don't think it can anymore, and java browser plugins seem to be disappearing anyway; the world seems to be heading toward javascript for in-browser, RIA. Feel free to raid http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~dstromberg/Intro-to-Python/for slides. HTH On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:59 PM, koch.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm about held a short course with the title indicated in the subjects. The students are very experienced programmers of our company, with deep knoledge on C, C++, C#, Perl and similar languages, but very limited, or absolutely no knowledge on python. what would you teach to such a group in 5x1.5 hours? I'm looking for the most interesting, unique topics, emphesizing python's strong points. I have already a couple ideas: - a general intro about tuples, lists, dicts, sets, and working with these - functional programming tools, functools, itertools, lambda, map, filter - wsgi, pickle I'd appreciate a lot if you could add some ideas thanks, Mate -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Recursive generator for combinations of a multiset?
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:58 PM, John O'Hagan resea...@johnohagan.comwrote: On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:59:26 -0800 Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:46 PM, John O'Hagan resea...@johnohagan.comwrote: Short story: the subject says it all, so if you have an answer already, fire away. Below is the long story of what I'm using it for, and why I think it needs to be recursive. It may even be of more general interest in terms of filtering the results of generators. I think you probably need permutations rather than combinations. Also, I think you'll need to form a word (partitioned off by spaces), and then check it against a set containing /usr/share/dict/words before recursing for the remainder of the sentence - this should speed things up a LOT. Thanks for the reply. If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting permuting the input _characters_ to form words and then seeing if they exist, as opposed to my approach of combining known words and seeing if they are anagrams. (Permutations of words would not help find anagrams as they merely change the word order). Here is an attempt at that: You've interpreted me correctly. However, I was thinking about this in the back of my mind, and decided it would probably be best to inhale /usr/share/dict/words (if on Linux), and pull out words of the corrects lengths (as separated by the blanks) over the correct (possible) alphabet, and permute Those, afterward checking if they form good anagrams of the original sentence. This would probably be much faster, since English isn't that dense of a space. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python for everyday tasks
I almost forgot: Talk about pypi and pip (or similar) too. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:59 PM, koch.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm about held a short course with the title indicated in the subjects. The students are very experienced programmers of our company, with deep knoledge on C, C++, C#, Perl and similar languages, but very limited, or absolutely no knowledge on python. what would you teach to such a group in 5x1.5 hours? I'm looking for the most interesting, unique topics, emphesizing python's strong points. I have already a couple ideas: - a general intro about tuples, lists, dicts, sets, and working with these - functional programming tools, functools, itertools, lambda, map, filter - wsgi, pickle I'd appreciate a lot if you could add some ideas thanks, Mate -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that dialect it is grammatically correct to say the codes, just as in UK and US English it is grammatically correct to say the programs. I wouldn't necessarily even consider it an Indian thing, as I've known Americans to use the same phrase. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On 23 Nov 2013 02:18:03 GMT, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info declaimed the following: Aside: I love the fact that pea, as in green peas or black-eyed peas, is a back-formation from an uncountable noun. Originally English had the word pease, as in pease porridge hot from the nursery rhyme. Like wheat, rice, barley and others, You would have to say something like give me a grain of pease if you only wanted one. Eventually, people began to assume that pease, or peas, was the plural and therefore pea must be the singular. I look forward to the day that rice is the plural of ri :-) Rice is the plural of rouse Not according to the dictionary. But it does seem a more likely candidate for a hypothetical back formation than ri, which perhaps was your point. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python for everyday tasks
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Dan Stromberg drsali...@gmail.com wrote: Teach that python has builtins, not keywords - IOW, you can redefine list or int, but you probably shouldn't. pylint helps with this. Well, Python has keywords, but uses builtins for many things that other languages use keywords (or magic) for. None=1 SyntaxError: assignment to keyword list=[] del list ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: select.select()
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: (*) I'm not sure if real MUDs are programmed this way, but it's a plausible architecture. For simplicity sake, I'm assuming a single-threaded server. Yeah, they certainly can. That's effectively the way that I programmed the MUD kernel that we used at work (not for games, but it's still effectively a MUD), although I used async I/O facilities to abstract away the actual select calls. It's as good as the multi-threaded model (which is what I use in Minstrel Hall - every connection spawns a thread, which does blocking reads and blocking writes; simplifies the code when a command wants to delay the user, as it simply sleep()s), and can often scale to more concurrent connections, although for the bulk of servers that's not going to be an issue. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: JSON translated into SQL by python
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Aaron G. another.human.fac...@gmail.com wrote: query = INSERT INTO TABLE temp2 (enterprise) VALUES(+ str(curObservation) +); You just put the contents of curObservation into the query, as SQL code. Is that really what you wanted to do? Most likely, you should be using a parameterized query here; are you familiar with that concept? You seem to have custom functions to do your database work here. Without knowing what those functions do, it's hard for us to advise further. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue19553] PEP 453: make install and make altinstall integration
Ned Deily added the comment: The proposed patch with minor changes is now pushed. I believe all of the review points have either been resolved or are covered by separate pip issues with the exception of item 8. For item 6 (permissions not being forced), I decided that there are so many other files that are also not having permissions forced that it is silly to single out ensurepip. Issue15890 should cover a comprehensive solution for all files. In the meantime, the solution remains to set umask appropriately (e.g. 022) before running make install or make altinstall. I'm removing release blocker status and propose closing this issue once a decision about and/or home for item 8 is found. -- priority: release blocker - resolution: - fixed stage: patch review - committed/rejected status: open - pending ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19553 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Victor, you can propose whatever you like for 3.5, but I'm not adding new interpreter state two days before feature freeze when we don't have to. Looking up the private CodecInfo attribute is still O(1) anyway. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue18864] Implementation for PEP 451 (importlib.machinery.ModuleSpec)
Changes by Claudiu.Popa pcmantic...@gmail.com: -- nosy: +Claudiu.Popa ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue18864 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue17457] Unittest discover fails with namespace packages and builtin modules
Claudiu.Popa added the comment: Hello! Attached patch which uses ModuleSpec, tested with http://hg.python.org/features/pep-451/ repo. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file32771/unittest_discovery_spec2.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue17457 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19550] PEP 453: Windows installer integration
Ned Deily added the comment: If it is acceptable for the Remove option to be somewhat unpredictable in the case where pip or setuptools was already installed and not by the installer, would python -m pip uninstall --yes pip setuptools work? If not, should a new issue be opened to find a solution? -- nosy: +ned.deily ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19550 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19599] Failure of test_async_timeout() of test_multiprocessing_spawn: TimeoutError not raised
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[issue19550] PEP 453: Windows installer integration
Nick Coghlan added the comment: I think Off by default is a reasonable solution for the beta (and even 3.4 final), but a separate issue explaining *why* it's off by default would be good. I can then ping the pip folks to ask for suggestions - if they come up with something workable, we may be able to have it turned on by default in 3.4 final. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19550 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19557] ast - docs for every node type are missing
anatoly techtonik added the comment: Neither you nor docs answer the question when Assign node gets Tuple as argument, when List and when Subscript. While it is obvious to you, I personally don't know what a Subscript is. This is the kind of stuff that I'd like to see documented. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19557 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19555] SO config var not getting set
STINNER Victor added the comment:
Test is failing on Windows:
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Windows%20Server%202003%20%5BSB%5D%203.x/builds/1758/steps/test/logs/stdio
==
ERROR: test_SO_in_vars (test.test_sysconfig.TestSysConfig)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
E:\Data\buildslave\cpython\3.x.snakebite-win2k3r2sp2-x86\build\lib\test\test_sysconfig.py,
line 388, in test_SO_in_vars
self.assertIsNotNone(vars['SO'])
KeyError: 'SO'
==
FAIL: test_SO_value (test.test_sysconfig.TestSysConfig)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
E:\Data\buildslave\cpython\3.x.snakebite-win2k3r2sp2-x86\build\lib\test\test_sysconfig.py,
line 382, in test_SO_value
sysconfig.get_config_var('EXT_SUFFIX'))
AssertionError: None != '.pyd'
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nosy: +haypo
resolution: fixed -
status: closed - open
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[issue17134] Use Windows' certificate store for CA certs
STINNER Victor added the comment:
The test is failing:
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Windows%20Server%202003%20%5BSB%5D%203.x/builds/1758/steps/test/logs/stdio
==
FAIL: test_enum_certificates (test.test_ssl.BasicSocketTests)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
E:\Data\buildslave\cpython\3.x.snakebite-win2k3r2sp2-x86\build\lib\test\test_ssl.py,
line 553, in test_enum_certificates
self.assertIn(serverAuth, names)
AssertionError: '1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.1' not found in {'1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.3',
'1.3.6.1.4.1.311.10.3.5', '2.16.840.1.113730.4.1', '2.16.840.1.113733.1.8.1'}
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nosy: +haypo
resolution: fixed -
status: closed - open
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[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Nick Coghlan added the comment: - switched to LookupError for the dedicated exception - default value moved to a CodecInfo class attribute - new private APIs guarded by PY_LIMITED_API - used repr formatting where appropriate in the tests - cleaned up the tests a bit by using encodings.normalize_encoding - new test to ensure the codec output type checks are still exercised - backwards compatibility tweaks for raw tuples returned from the codec registry lookup (uncovered by the full test suite run) I'll be committing this version after a final local run of make test and a refleak check on test_codecs, test_charmapcodec and test_unicode (the latter two are the ones that found the backwards compatibility issue with the attribute lookup). -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file32772/issue19619_blacklist_transforms_py34_postreview.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: Nick: I've had a look at your second patch. A couple of notes: * I think you should add the flag to the constructor of the CodecInfo tuple subclass and then set this in the resp. codecs. The extra constructor class method looks too much like a hack and is not needed. * The comment in codecs.h should read: Checks the encoding against a list of codecs which do not implement a str-bytes encoding before attempting the operation. Please note that these APIs are internal and should not be used in Python C extensions. Regarding Victor's suggestion to use a separate registry dict for this: I'm definitely -1 on this. The black listing is a very special case only used for the .encode()/.decode() methods and otherwise doesn't have anything to do with the codecs sub-system. It doesn't make sense to change the design of the registry just to implement this one special case. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19685] open() fails to autodetect utf-8 if LANG=C
New submission from Curtis Doty:
I first stumbled across this bug attempting to install use pip's cool editable
mode:
$ pip install -e git+git://github.com/appliedsec/pygeoip.git#egg=pygeoip
Obtaining pygeoip from git+git://github.com/appliedsec/pygeoip.git#egg=pygeoip
Cloning git://github.com/appliedsec/pygeoip.git to ./src/pygeoip
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
Traceback (most recent call last):
File string, line 16, in module
File /home/curtis/python/3.3.3/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line
26, in decode
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 1098:
ordinal not in range(128)
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File string, line 16, in module
File /home/curtis/python/3.3.3/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26,
in decode
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 1098:
ordinal not in range(128)
Cleaning up...
Command python setup.py egg_info failed with error code 1 in
/home/curtis/python/2013-11-20/src/pygeoip
Storing complete log in /home/curtis/.pip/pip.log
It turns out this is related to a local LANG=C environment. If I set
LANG=en_US.UTF-8, the problem goes away. But it seems pip/python3 open() should
be more intelligently handling this.
Worse, the file in this case
https://github.com/appliedsec/pygeoip/blob/master/setup.py already has a source
code decorator *declaring* it as utf-8.
Ugly workaround patch is to force pip to always use 8-bit encoding on setup.py:
--- pip.orig/req.py 2013-11-19 15:53:49.0 -0800
+++ pip/req.py 2013-11-20 16:37:23.642656132 -0800
@@ -281,7 +281,7 @@ def replacement_run(self):
writer(self, ep.name, os.path.join(self.egg_info,ep.name))
self.find_sources()
egg_info.egg_info.run = replacement_run
-exec(compile(open(__file__).read().replace('\\r\\n', '\\n'), __file__, 'exec'))
+exec(compile(open(__file__,encoding='utf_8').read().replace('\\r\\n', '\\n'),
__file__, 'exec'))
def egg_info_data(self, filename):
@@ -687,7 +687,7 @@ exec(compile(open(__file__).read().repla
## FIXME: should we do --install-headers here too?
call_subprocess(
[sys.executable, '-c',
- import setuptools; __file__=%r;
exec(compile(open(__file__).read().replace('\\r\\n', '\\n'), __file__,
'exec')) % self.setup_py]
+ import setuptools; __file__=%r;
exec(compile(open(__file__,encoding='utf_8').read().replace('\\r\\n', '\\n'),
__file__, 'exec')) % self.setup_py]
+ list(global_options) + ['develop', '--no-deps'] +
list(install_options),
cwd=self.source_dir, filter_stdout=self._filter_install,
But that only treats the symptom. Root cause appears to be in python3 as
demonstrated by this simple script:
wrong-codec.py:
#! /bin/env python3
from urllib.request import urlretrieve
urlretrieve('https://raw.github.com/appliedsec/pygeoip/master/setup.py',
filename='setup.py')
# if LANC=C then locale.py:getpreferredencoding()-'ANSI_X3.4-1968'
foo= open('setup.py')
# bang! ascii_decode() cannot handle the unicode
bar= foo.read()
This does not occur in python2. Is this bug in pip or python3?
--
components: Unicode
messages: 203673
nosy: GreenKey, ezio.melotti, haypo
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: open() fails to autodetect utf-8 if LANG=C
type: crash
versions: Python 3.3
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[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: On 22.11.2013 12:24, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote: Nick: I've had a look at your second patch. A couple of notes: * I think you should add the flag to the constructor of the CodecInfo tuple subclass and then set this in the resp. codecs. The extra constructor class method looks too much like a hack and is not needed. Like this: _is_text_encoding = True # Assume codecs are text encodings by default def __new__(cls, encode, decode, streamreader=None, streamwriter=None, incrementalencoder=None, incrementaldecoder=None, name=None, _is_text_encoding=None): self = tuple.__new__(cls, (encode, decode, streamreader, streamwriter)) self.name = name self.encode = encode self.decode = decode self.incrementalencoder = incrementalencoder self.incrementaldecoder = incrementaldecoder self.streamwriter = streamwriter self.streamreader = streamreader if _is_text_encoding is not None: self._is_text_encoding = _is_text_encoding return self -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Nick Coghlan added the comment: - switched the private flag from being set in a class method to using a keyword only parameter to __init__ - updated the codecs.h comment as MAL suggested -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file32773/issue19619_blacklist_transforms_py34_keyword_only_param.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
STINNER Victor added the comment: If _is_text_encoding may change in Python 3.5, you should add a comment to warn users to not use it and explain its purpose, maybe with a reference to this issue. -- We have talking about a very few codecs: * base64: bytes = bytes * bz2: bytes = bytes * hex: bytes = bytes; decode supports also ASCII string (str) = bytes * quopri: bytes = bytes * rot_13: str = str * uu: bytes = bytes * zlib: bytes = bytes I suppose that supporting ASCII string input to the hex decoder is a border effect of its implementation. I don't know if it is expected *for the codec*. If we simplify the hex decoder to reject str types, all these codecs would have simply one type: same input and output type. Anyway, if you want something based on types, the special case for the hex decoder cannot be expressed with a type nor ABC. ASCII string is not a type. So instead of _is_text_encoding=False could be transform=bytes or transform=str. (I don't care of the name: transform_type, type, codec_type, data_type, etc.) I know that bytes is not exact: bytearray, memoryview and any bytes-like object is accepted, but it is a probably enough for now. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: On 22.11.2013 12:43, STINNER Victor wrote: STINNER Victor added the comment: If _is_text_encoding may change in Python 3.5, you should add a comment to warn users to not use it and explain its purpose, maybe with a reference to this issue. +1 -- We have talking about a very few codecs: * base64: bytes = bytes * bz2: bytes = bytes * hex: bytes = bytes; decode supports also ASCII string (str) = bytes * quopri: bytes = bytes * rot_13: str = str * uu: bytes = bytes * zlib: bytes = bytes I suppose that supporting ASCII string input to the hex decoder is a border effect of its implementation. I don't know if it is expected *for the codec*. If we simplify the hex decoder to reject str types, all these codecs would have simply one type: same input and output type. Anyway, if you want something based on types, the special case for the hex decoder cannot be expressed with a type nor ABC. ASCII string is not a type. So instead of _is_text_encoding=False could be transform=bytes or transform=str. (I don't care of the name: transform_type, type, codec_type, data_type, etc.) I know that bytes is not exact: bytearray, memoryview and any bytes-like object is accepted, but it is a probably enough for now. I think it's better to go with something that's explicitly internal now than to fix a public API in form of a constructor parameter this late in the release process. For 3.5 it may make sense to declare a few codec feature flags which would then make lookups such as the one done for the blacklist easier to implement and faster to check as well. Such flags could provide introspection at a higher level than what would be possible with type mappings (even though I still like the idea of adding those to CodecInfo at some point). One possible use for such flags would be to declare whether a codec is reversible or not - in other words, whether .decode(.encode(x)) works for all possible inputs x. This flag could then be used to quickly check whether a codec would fail on a Unicode str which has non-Latin-1 code points or to create a list of valid encodings for certain applications, e.g. a list which only contains reversible Unicode encodings such as the UTF ones. Anyway: Thanks to Nick for implementing this, to Serhiy for the black list idea and Victor for the attribute idea :-) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19660] decorator syntax: allow testlist instead of just dotted_name
Eric V. Smith added the comment: While I think that the dotted_name restriction should be relaxed and it should instead be a style guide issue, I have to agree with Benjamin here: the difference in grammar complexity is zero and shouldn't drive the decision. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19660 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
STINNER Victor added the comment: 2013/11/22 Marc-Andre Lemburg rep...@bugs.python.org: Anyway: Thanks to Nick for implementing this, to Serhiy for the black list idea and Victor for the attribute idea :-) In fact, the attribute idea comes from you :-) http://bugs.python.org/issue7475#msg96374 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19686] possible unnecessary memoryview copies?
Stefan Krah added the comment: David is correct: No data is copied, but new memoryview objects with different shape and strides are created. That is relatively cheap. -- nosy: +skrah resolution: - invalid stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed type: enhancement - behavior ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19686 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19553] PEP 453: make install and make altinstall integration
Donald Stufft added the comment: I'm honestly not sure what to do about #8 on your list. It's sort of a really wierd edge case as far as pip is concerned right now because the support for the versioned commands and differing them is sort of a hack job while we wait for proper support from a PEP. Probably long term wise once there's support for this in a PEP pip will gain some sort of regenerate scripts commands that could handle this case better. I'm struggling to come up with a good solution in the interim though :( -- status: pending - open ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19553 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Nick Coghlan added the comment: It turns out the codec cache and the refleak hunting mechanism in regrtest *really* don't like each other if you use closures to implement your test codecs :) Anyway, the attached patch tweaks the tests to handle refleak hunting (and running the refleak hunter indicates there aren't any leaks). I'll be committing this one immediately after posting this. And like MAL, I'm keen to stick with a fully private API at this point, as I believe we need to get the status quo clearly documented before we can start talking about making changes to the public APIs. I think both this issue and issue 7475 show that until we have a common understanding amongst the core development team of what's possible now, it's hard to discuss: - what's currently possible that we would like to deprecate? (opinions differ strongly on this one - MAL and I think the status quo is mostly OK, but could use some better type inference support, Victor would like to see support for anything beyond text encodings, binary transforms and text transforms deprecated) - what's not possible that we would like to make possible? (e.g. removing cached codecs, removing search functions, reordering search functions, type inference through the codec machinery) - what's already possible that we would like to make easier? (e.g. registering new codecs) -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file32774/issue19619_blacklist_transforms_py34_refleak_hunting.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Well, that patch minus the debugging print that was still in there :) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset d68df99d7a57 by Nick Coghlan in branch 'default': Issue #19619: Blacklist non-text codecs in method API http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d68df99d7a57 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19619] Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode()
Nick Coghlan added the comment: 3.4 has been dealt with. A similar functional patch should work in 3.3, but the test changes will be different (since those test cases don't exist yet in 3.3, and the wrapping ones aren't relevant at all). -- versions: -Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue19619 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue7475] codecs missing: base64 bz2 hex zlib hex_codec ...
Nick Coghlan added the comment: The 3.4 portion of issue 19619 has been addressed, so removing it as a dependency again. -- dependencies: -Blacklist base64, hex, ... codecs from bytes.decode() and str.encode() ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue7475 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
