On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Dan Sommers d...@tombstonezero.net wrote:
Now if only emacs were clever enough *not* to colorize id when it's
one of my names and not the builtin... ;-)
I think (part of) the point of the colorization is to make it obvious
that you've shadowed a builtin. If you
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What type of warning is more preferable here? It will be emitted at import.
E.g.:
$ ./python -Wall
Python 3.5.0a1+ (default:28ba862036cc+, Feb 28 2015, 11:01:23)
[GCC 4.8.2] on linux
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import
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New submission from Liam Marsh:
hello,
pep 397 describes a Python launcher for the Windows platform.
A Python launcher is a single executable which uses a number of
heuristics to locate a Python executable and launch it with a
specified command line.
Problem: that affects only the
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Dan Sommers d...@tombstonezero.net wrote:
I don't think I've ever used the builtin function id in a program.
Ever. Not even once. Honestly, what is a valid use case?
If you have a dict
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Sure, for the ones I use as built-ins. But I went through the color
file for vim and took out the built-ins I use regularly as variables
-- and 'id' was the first one to go.
Ah, yes. The id is with us from the beginning. The self seeks to gratify
the whims of
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Dan Sommers d...@tombstonezero.net wrote:
I don't think I've ever used the builtin function id in a program.
Ever. Not even once. Honestly, what is a valid use case?
If you have a dict that you want to key on object identity rather than
equality, then you can
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Issue #21619: Popen objects no longer leave a zombie after exit in the with
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On 28/02/2015 01:09, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Likewise:
int = 23
n = int(42)
Isn't it obvious that the second use of int has to be the built-in function?
I wish that the computer would understand from context which one I mean.
(People here would like PL/I then which apparently has *no*
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Why not ignoring BrokenPipeError like communicate()?
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May be mention that the result of PyUnicode_AsUTF8() can contain null bytes?
And the same for PyBytes_AS_STRING()/PyBytes_AsString()?
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crc 0x is still used in gzip, zipfile and tarfile. And some comments
say about signess of 32-bit checksums.
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Fine, I'm also optimizing and the fix isn't going into libmpdec.
Android can use the Python version of decimal.
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From : Tim Chase
A quick google-and-tally for languages
and their corresponding number of keywords:
re-sorted
21 : Lua
31 : Python2.x
33 : Python3.x
33 : C
37 : Pike
40 : Perl
40 : Ruby
50 : Java
54 : Pascal
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Roundup Robot added the comment:
New changeset 8fe15bf68522 by Alexander Belopolsky in branch '3.4':
Fixes #23521: Corrected pure python implementation of timedelta division.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/8fe15bf68522
New changeset d783132d72bc by Alexander Belopolsky in branch 'default':
Nick Coghlan added the comment:
OK, something appears to have gotten confused along the way here. Barry's
original problem report was that operator.index() was returning a different
answer than operator.__index__() for int subclasses. Absolutely nothing to do
with the int builtin at all.
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 9:39 PM, BartC b...@freeuk.com wrote:
(People here would like PL/I then which apparently has *no* reserved words,
so you can write: if if=then then ...)
Likewise REXX has no reserved words; also, SQL went part-way there,
with the notion of non-reserved keywords. For
László Attila Tóth added the comment:
It seems I found the solution in the attached file
argparse.disable_interspersed_args.python35.diff, and it's much-much easier
than I thought. I assume that this patch can cleanly applied to earlier
versions (python 3.2-3.4), but I didn't check it.
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LGTM.
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Nick Coghlan added the comment:
The case for RuntimeWarning: the object isn't necessarily *broken* as such
(most things will still work), but pickling and some introspection features may
not work properly.
The case for DeprecationWarning: breaking picking and introspection is bad when
the
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
Exposed classes are the types of results returned by urllib.parse functions. It
is very unlikely that they will be directly used by the user. I see the only
benefit of adding these class to __all__ that they will become visible for
pydoc. Is it worth to
Stefan Krah added the comment:
+1. I think the flags should go into CFLAGS_NODIST.
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Cyd Haselton added the comment:
Well, why don't you try? :)
Resource optimization.
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Consider the libmpdec part rejected. It is too much work given that
external libmpdecs need to be compatible and Android can use the Python
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New submission from Michael Bevilacqua-Linn:
Hey thanks so much for reaching out!
I'm not really interested in leaving Philly or my current job at the moment
though...
Thanks!
MBL
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Hi Michael,
I hope you are
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BartC b...@freeuk.com:
(Over here it's spelled colour...)
The language of science and technology is American English. Learn it
like everybody else has to.
Marko
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Why the test class is moved?
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:14:50 -0800, Jai wrote:
i want to learn redis database and its use via python , please
guide me which tutorials i should be study, so that i can learn it
in good way
Using databases via python often involves working with dictionaries or
lists, lists of
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Cyd Haselton added the comment:
Fine, I'm also optimizing and the fix isn't going into libmpdec.
Android can use the Python version of decimal.
Er, ok. Not entirely sure what this means, mostly because the handful of spare
cycles not allocated to a) getting a fork up, running and patched b)
On 27/02/2015 21:40, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
Right. In C and C++, instead of being the first slide, it'd be the first 3
or 4. Between header file conflicts (especially good because the stdlib
itself has many multiply-defined
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Stefan Krah added the comment:
I wouldn't know if they're reported to the same bug tracker...it's possible
they aren't.
Well, why don't you try? :)
Additionally it's possible that the lack of locale support in libc isn't
considered a bug.
Their struct lconv violates both the C standard
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
It also makes me wonder what idiot decided to use C as the language for the
first Python implementation? Or was it written in something else and then
ported?
Guido, probably. And what other language would you
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment:
Can you provide a patch for this ?
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“Smalest” is spelt with a double L.
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Martin Panter added the comment:
For what it’s worth, I have used the the SplitResult class directly to build
URLs from components, and to get at the hostname:port parsing functionality, as
described in Issue 23416. As well as pydoc, I notice when things are missing
from __all__ when I try to
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
It also can be ImportWarning (warnings triggered during the process of
importing a module (ignored by default)).
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New changeset 4a1fe339dcf6 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default':
Issue #19980: Improved help() for non-recognized strings. help('') now
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4a1fe339dcf6
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On 25/02/2015 20:58, Michiel Overtoom wrote:
On Feb 25, 2015, at 21:45, Mark Lawrence wrote:
http://www.slideshare.net/pydanny/python-worst-practices
I like the way it advises against preserving pixels by removing vowels
from identifiers.
Then it gives the best practice example of using
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New changeset 1b4d916329e7 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.4':
Fixed a test for issue #21619 on Windows.
https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/1b4d916329e7
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Fixed a test for issue #21619 on Windows.
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On 28/02/2015 10:56, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
BartC b...@freeuk.com:
(Over here it's spelled colour...)
The language of science and technology is American English. Learn it
like everybody else has to.
Marko
People from Angleland use any English apart from our own, never. Next
thing
Jason R. Coombs added the comment:
I'm also eager to hear what limitations prevented the acceptance. Please do
link back here when you've posted.
I have to say, I'm not entirely surprised. In my implementation, I struggled
with some cases, and it certainly doesn't feel like a fully safe
I am reinstalling everything on my new Windows 7 laptop. I run into a problem
when installing PIL 1.1.7, in combination with my Activestate Python 2.7.8.
The PIL installer complains that no Python is registered. I did run Joakim
Löw's script to register Python. This results in the message ***
Ryan Gonzalez added the comment:
Ok...so the joys of autoconf configuring bite again. ALL Android devices have
/dev/ptmx (adb even assumes it)...should the configure script be modified to
skip that check if cross-compiling for Android?
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Whilst testing #19980 I noticed that three tests are still skipped.
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Guido van Rossum added the comment:
So this is still strange. When you do this, does it give the same exception?
import signal
signal.signal(signal.SIGCHLD, signal.SIG_DFL)
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Hi,
For some scripts, I write in a a more functional way, using a lot of small
functions outside of any class. Although it makes the code clearer for
specific cases, I have found that it makes debugging and using the repl in
general difficult, as as I have to re-initialise every single objects
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Cyd Haselton added the comment:
*ALL Android devices have /dev/ptmx (adb even assumes it)...should the
*configure script be modified to skip that check if cross-compiling for
*Android?
Yes, definitely. See the mods to pyconfig.h here
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Proposed patch (generated vs. the 3.4 docs) is attached
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Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
There is a problem with the patch. When you are in interactive help utility,
then the request 'help' runs nested interactive help utility. The difference
between unpatched behavior is that now you need press Ctrl-D or 'q' twice to
exit to normal Python
Martin Panter added the comment:
Yes I agree with the behaviour that None means no body (for requests such as
GET), and an empty string means an empty but present body. Correct me if I’m
wrong, but I think the fix for Issue 14721 already does that.
Perhaps the new behaviour needs a “Changed
Hammerite added the comment:
No, I haven't done any work on it. Is that the done thing when suggesting
something? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware.
I could look into it. I am unfamiliar with the CPython codebase, but I can have
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Mark Lawrence added the comment:
LGTM.
I noticed this running the tests.
test_modules (test.test_pydoc.PydocImportTest) ... skipped 'causes undesireable
side-effects (#20128)'
test_modules_search (test.test_pydoc.PydocImportTest) ... skipped 'causes
undesireable side-effects (#20128)'
Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Raymond, I have had a very vague idea of doing something like this. Thanks for
posting something more concrete. I share the sentiments of your last sentence.
Reading Stackoverflow, it is apparent that some people with two+ Python
versions do not know that a
Chris Angelico wrote:
Likewise REXX has no reserved words; also, SQL went part-way there,
with the notion of non-reserved keywords.
Python sometimes has those, too. For example, the as in
import as was non-reserved when it was first introduced,
to avoid abruptly breaking code that used it as a
Eli Bendersky added the comment:
Good catch.
Attaching a new version of the patch with the typo fixed.
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Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
Thank you for your contribution Mark.
I noticed this running the tests.
This is temporary OK.
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Terry J. Reedy added the comment:
Thinking a bit more, the Idle entry point could be one entry, 'Install
Packages' or 'Manage Packages' on the Options menu (or maybe Help menu). I am
not sure that the new window would need a submenu, as I think everything listed
in the opening post could fit
James Rutherford added the comment:
I actually consider this a fix for the fix in 14721, rather than a new feature.
The only new behaviour here is setting content length to be zero if body is
None on PATCH, POST, or PUT. Happy to change the labeling if that's the
consensus but IMO it's a
Donald Stufft added the comment:
I'm unlikely to have the time or motivation to do this anytime soon (just to be
clear). I would be able to advise anyone who does feel like doing it the best
ways to interact with pip itself though.
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New submission from Raymond Hettinger:
Python's core is full of bound checks like this one in Objects/listobject.c:
static PyObject *
list_item(PyListObject *a, Py_ssize_t i)
{
if (i 0 || i = Py_SIZE(a)) {
...
Abner Fog's high-level language optimization guide,
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
I love fishing, just dangle the bait and wait to see what bites :)
Yeah, you usually catch someone. Sometimes they need to be majorly
sleep-deprived at half past three in the morning so they're looking at
message bodies
New submission from Eli Bendersky:
The heapq documentation has this paragraph after the doc of nsmallest:
The latter two functions perform best for smaller values of n. For larger
values, it is more efficient to use the sorted() function. Also, when n==1, it
is more efficient to use the
Berker Peksag added the comment:
Why the test class is moved?
Just wanted to group all TestHelp* tests together.
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Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:
But it already was between two help tests: TestHelpNoHelpOptional and
TestHelpNone.
I think that original test tested that the help attribute is optional for the
--version argument and default description is printed in help output. This test
shouldn't be
On 28/02/2015 15:33, Mark Lawrence wrote:
It also makes me wonder what idiot decided to use C as the language for
the first Python implementation? Or was it written in something else and
then ported?
Python was already slow enough even written in C. With any other
implementation language, it
On 2015-02-28 17:56, MRAB wrote:
On 2015-02-28 16:03, Cousin Stanley wrote:
From : Tim Chase
A quick google-and-tally for languages
and their corresponding number of keywords:
re-sorted
21 : Lua
31 : Python2.x
33 : Python3.x
33 :
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Jack O'Connor added the comment:
`close()` fixes it; thanks for the workaround! When I throw a print statement
inside `remove_signal_handler`, it says that sig is 17 and handler is 0. 17
looks to be SIGCHLD, presumably from the little echo subprocess exiting in this
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New submission from Jack O'Connor:
This toy program:
import asyncio
@asyncio.coroutine
def main():
p = yield from asyncio.create_subprocess_shell('echo hi')
yield from p.wait()
asyncio.get_event_loop().run_until_complete(main())
Produces this output on Arch Linux under Python 3.4.3
James Rutherford added the comment:
Happy to remove OPTIONS from the list of methods that gets a content-length
where body is None, but do we also want to consider behaviour if it's the empty
string? My feeling is that '' implies present but empty (so should have a
content-length set to
On 28/02/2015 15:46, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
It also makes me wonder what idiot decided to use C as the language for the
first Python implementation? Or was it written in something else and then
ported?
Guido,
On 28/02/2015 16:36, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
I love fishing, just dangle the bait and wait to see what bites :)
Yeah, you usually catch someone. Sometimes they need to be majorly
sleep-deprived at half past three in
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New submission from Raymond Hettinger:
IPython 3.0 added a useful feature that we ought to consider for inclusion
either in timeit.repeat() or in the command-line interface:
Using %timeit prints warnings if there is at least a 4x difference in
timings between the slowest and fastest runs,
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