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> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:11:01 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
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> > I tend to use ‘u"foo {bar} baz".format(**vars())’, since ‘vars’ can
> > also take the namespace of an object. I only need to remember one
> > “give me the namespace” f
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> On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:44:32 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
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> > Eric Snow writes:
> >
> >> AttributeError: attribute '__doc__' of 'type' objects is not writable
> >>
> >> That is on 3.3.
> >
>
Sérgio Monteiro Basto writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > In this case your shell has no preference for the encoding (since
> > you're redirecting output to a file).
>
> How I say to python that I want that write in utf-8 to files ?
You already did:
> > In th
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g will be insufficient (as in your ABC example) or
> wrong.
I hope the above demonstrates that your assertion is untrue. Every
single method on a class doesn't need to specify the full context; a
docstring that requires the reader to know what class the method belongs
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> class Square(Shape):
> """ An equal-sided quadrilateral polygon. """
That this docstring is imprecise (it describes any rhombus, not
necessarily a square) is something I hope no-one else notices or draws
attention to.
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So you'll probably need to be more specific about why your use case
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Operations in new code.”
http://docs.python.org/library/stdtypes.html#str.format>
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> wrote:
> > Instead, Python has objects, and references to those objects so you
> > can get at them. The Python documentation, much to my frustration,
> > calls these references “variables” even t
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other, which can then raise any exception.
> >>> os.kill.__exceptions__
> (, , 'exceptions.OverflowError'>, )
This is false. Any exception could be raised by any call. Learn to live
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ben Finney
> wrote:
> > The *binding* is scoped.
>
> And the binding follows the exact same rules as anything else would.
> It has scope and visibility. In terms of the OP, the binding IS like a
> variable.
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highlight > 100):
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> John Yeung writes:
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> > So last week PEP 8 was updated to reflect this. All fine and good. I
> > happen to prefer this style myself. But there remains an example
> > further down (left over from earlier incarnations of PEP 8) which
> > mig
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> > The ability to re-bind any attribute, even ones which the author
> > thought should be constant, makes writing unit tests much easier. I
> > don't see that putative be
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you guys explain me advantages and disadvantages of using
> each of them
I hope that explains.
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I'd say facts are claims about reality which have been independently
verified to be true. Beliefs that are about facts are thereby correct or
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mpatibility is a common reason for more than one way to do it
in Python. It's just preferable that all but one of them should be
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> logger.error(
> '{0} could not be stored - {1}'.format(
> (self.preset_file, sys.exc_info()[1]))
>
> I usually prefer to use named placeholders instead of positional, but
> this duplicates your original.
Ah, I see that the OP
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On a Unix-like system (e.g. GNU+Linux), you could create a ‘cron’ job
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Eric Snow writes:
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Eric Snow writes:
> >> No other objects have code objects. No other objects in Python have
> >> this special optimization.
> >
> > Yes. The two facts are directly related.
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>>> def foo():
... ds = "The Larch"
... print ds
...
>>> foo.__doc__
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neral-purpose, customisable tools,
with clear standard interfaces that work together well, and are easily
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Maybe it will be quicker to ask: What is it you want to achieve?
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Agreed; however, it seems reasonable people can disagree on how much
that matters. I think it should be fixed, but not enough to push for it.
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tions of study capability are clear.
Any code using this implementation of Student knows that, if they want a
student who actually studies, they'd better ask for a more specific
type.
See? We can have overstretched analogies *and* remain within the Liskov
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explicitly.
My suggestion::
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> On Jul 24, 10:53 am, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Frank Millman writes:
> > > I know I am flogging a dead horse here, but IMHO, '165', '165.',
> > > '165.0', and '165.00' are all valid string representations
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It's clear and explicit and really not difficult to type or maintain.
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Ethan Furman writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > Ethan Furman writes:
> >> This feels like a violation of 'Special cases aren't special enough
> >> to break the rules.'
> >
> > In the case of ‘bool’, the rule was broken before being introduced.
ht is not free if the profession of |
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> Ben Finney said:
> > But this is all getting rather generic and abstract. What specific
> > real-world examples do you have in mind?
>
> regex match vs regex search?
That's not showing a real-world example. Where is the code which is
prone to “lot
space at run-time with ‘textwrap.dedent’
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2504411/proper-indentation-for-python-multiline-strings/2504454#2504454>.
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> Ben Finney wrote:
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> > They're an accident of the history that led to their implementation,
> > and of the pre-existing parts that they're built from. There doesn't
> > need to be a point to them (though they might be usefu
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> On 2011-08-10, Ben Finney wrote:
> > Seebs writes:
> >> On 2011-08-10, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> > And if we require {} then truly free indentation should be OK too!
> >> > But it wouldn't be Python any more.
>
> >>
Seebs writes:
> On 2011-08-11, Ben Finney wrote:
> > You're welcome to attempt to demonstrate the superiority of some
> > other Python-with-braces, but it will (a) be un-Pythonic, and (b) be
> > unlikely to gain the efforts of people who don't think what you
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Steven D'Aprano writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
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> > Likewise, “end of line as end of statement” has caused me and many
> > others problems.
>
> I don't understand this. Can you give an example?
Many times I have split a line expecting that some bracketing
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> What is the process if the OP, or someone to whom the OP delegates
> authority, wants to [contribute their work to the Python
> documentation]?
The answer is partly at http://docs.python.org/documenting/>:
If you’re interested in contributing to Python’s d
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