QOTW: The right solution will end up being unique to Python though. It has
to feel like Python. -- Guido van Rossum
http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2005/01/amazon_devcon_g_4.html
Sparring with Alex Martelli is like boxing Mike Tyson, except that one
experiences brain enhancement rather than brain
Editor's note: Python-URL! is minimal. It doesn't support advertisements,
we never allow the subscribers' addresses to be used for other purposes, we
don't claim infallibility, and we even take a couple weeks off some years.
Occasionally, though--not as often as the US enters a shooting war,
QOTW: ... So I started profiling the code and the slowdown was actually
taking place at places where I didn't expect it. -- Guyon Mor?e (and about
twenty-three thousand others)
[A] suggestion from the world of 'agile development': stop making so many
decisions and start writing some actual code!
QOTW: Using Unix for 20+ years probably warps one's perception
of what's obvious and what isn't. -- Grant Edwards
... windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they are
people too. -- James Stroud
The Widget Construction Kit (WCK) is an extension API that allows
you to
QOTW: - don't use SAX unless your document is huge
- don't use DOM unless someone is putting a gun to your head - Istvan Albert
I wouldn't fret too much about a sharp remark from Fredrik Lundh.
They're pretty much all that way. ;) It looks like you already did the
right thing - read past the
QOTW: The lesson for me is to spend much less time on Python discussion
and much more on unfinished projects. So even if I never use the new syntax,
I will have gained something ;-) - Terry Reedy
In short, this group is a broad church, and those readers with brains the
size of planets should
QOTW: ... '[B]ut assume that I have some other use case' isn't a valid
use case. - Fredrik Lundh
Rolling your own solution, on the other hand, can end in a long road
discovering what those CORBA people were doing for all those years. - Paul
Boddie
NOTW: sceptifications.
Steven D'Aprano
QOTW: Python makes it easy to implement algorithms. - casevh
Most of the discussion of immutables here seems to be caused by
newcomers wanting to copy an idiom from another language which doesn't
have immutable variables. Their real problem is usually with binding,
not immutability. - Mike Meyer
QOTW: If I feel the need for languages that enforce my design
decisions, I know where to find them. - Mike Meyer
There's ... unavoidable complexity involved in managing a software
distribution composed of third party software packages. At the very
least, you've got the original sources and the
QOTW: [P]ortability is an n-way street. - Paul McGuire
Python's polymorphism support is so good that it makes inheritance much
less important than it is in other languages. - Ben Sizer
Skip Montanaro presents the affirmative case for Python as
a unit-testing framework for C++:
QOTW: This PyCon has been better in so many respects than the three that
preceded it. ... PyCon will continue to improve. - Steve Holden, chairman
of PyCon 2003-2005
http://holdenweb.blogspot.com/
Design patterns are kind of like sarcasm: hard to use well, not always
appropriate, and
QOTW: Making a user class work anywhere you can put a mapping in Perl is
deep magic, but easy in Python. Creating types that act like files and can be
used wherever a file is used is SOP in Python; I'm not even sure it's
possible in Perl (probably is, but it's again deep magic). - Mike Meyer
...
QOTW: You can gain substantial speed-ups in very certain cases, but the
main point of Pyrex is ease of wrapping, not of speeding-up. - Simon Percivall
The rule of thumb for all your Python Vs C questions is ...
1.) Choose Python by default. . . . - Ravi Teja
Do you remember Python's early
QOTW: In short, it's never what you think it is ;-) - timbot,
probably on the subject of performance
Real efficiency comes from elegant solutions, not optimized programs.
Optimization is always just a few correctness-preserving transformations
away. - Jonathan Sobel
QOTW: Write code, not usenet posts. - Fredrik Lundh
If an embedded return isn't clear, the method probably needs to be
refactored with 'extract method' a few times until it is clear. - John Roth
The comp.lang.python collective has become quite expert
at answering Which book should I
QOTW: Alas, Python has extensive libraries and [is] well documented
to boot. - Edmond Dantes
Locking files is a complex business. - Sybren Stuvel
File-locking *sounds* like an easy thing; it just isn't
so in any operating system that often appears on desktops.
Take advantage of
QOTW: It's not out of the kindness of our hearts that we help. Heck, I
don't know what it is. Probably I just like reading my own drivel on the
internet and occasionally helping others is a good excuse. - Neil Cerutti
Well, if you're only watching mtv, it's easy to think that there's
QOTW: If you want your objects to know their name, give them a name as
an attribute. - Georg Brandl
Unfortunately forty years of programming experience has taught me that
there's an essentially infinite supply of mistakes to make ... your
mistakes just get smarter most of the time. - Steve
QOTW: Well, I haven't yet seen a definition of 'Integrated Development
Environment' which would exclude Emacs... - Slawomir Nowaczyk
Let me tell you: There are times when I'm really glad that as a German,
I'm not supposed to possess any sense of humour at all. - Georg Brandl
Pythoneers
QOTW: It is humbling to see how simple yet powerfull python`s view on
things is - Ãric Daigneault
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/bbd842715bb5b6eb
[I]f a machine is expected to be infallible, it cannot also be
intelligent. - Alan Turing, 20 February 1947, lecture to
QOTW: This whole charset mess is not meant to be solved by mere
mortals. - Thorsten Kampe, a day or so before solving his
symptom with a codecs method:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/a2e573ccc54f66db
QOTW: Dictionaries are one of the most useful things in Python. Make sure
you know how to take adavantage of them... - Jeremy Sanders
Python has consistently failed to disappoint me. - Tal Einat
super() only works on new-style classes ... and has its own
set of gotchas:
QOTW: As a general rule, *ALL* multithread operations are at least that
troublesome, and most are far more so. - Gary Herron
I'm a recent, belated convert from Perl. I work in a physics lab and have
been using Python to automate a lot of measurement equipment lately. It
works fabulously for
QOTW: Sometimes you just have to take the path of least distaste. - Grant
Edwards
I want to choose my words carefully here, so I'm not misunderstood. They're
a bunch of fucking idiots. - Charles Wang, billionaire chairman of software
giant Computer Associates, asked to assess the quality of
QOTW: Modules are objects too - they're a good example of singletons. If you
want to create a class containing only static methods: use a module instead.
If you want to create a class having a single instance (a singleton), most of
the time you can use a module instead. Functions don't *have* to
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
vegetax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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For example if i remember a function i want ie:get attribute, i dont
remember if the module implementer coded it as
getAttribute,GetAttribute,get_attribute,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Orlando Vazquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeff Shannon wrote:
snip
Because you cannot make Python secure against a malicious (or ignorant)
user -- there's too much flexibility to be able to guard against every
possible way in which user-code could harm the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Carl Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Python, or Perl, or TCL, or Ruby, or PHP,
Not PHP. PHP is one of the better (meaning less terrible) examples of
what happens when you do this sort of
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Quest Master [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I know C/C++ might be better suited for a task of this kind, but most
of the modules in my application which need speed have already been
coded in C++.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Michael Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Right - the crux of the problem is how to identify dangerous objects. My
point
is that if such as test is possible, then safe exec is very easily
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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worrying about Python security seems superfluous. Why worry, for instance,
about os.unlink when the user can just do the same much easier in a text or
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've only just had Python 2.4. Based on previous experience that means
it will be about 18 months before python 2.5.
I learned to program from 'Programming Python'. Particularly the stuff
on Tkinter is very helpful. I don't
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Andreas Pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
My company has given me a rather cool project:
I have to provide them with an open-source python-based point-of-sale /
cash register system that can integrate with their existing ERP backend.
The project will include
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Arthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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As long as we include the cost of treating adults as children, and
take it seriously as the kind of cost it is, I'm OK.
I think Terry's point covers a wide
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Andreas Pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Actually I just mean that I'm not looking for a 100% feature-fit, if I get
a 70% fit I'll jump in and develop the other 30%.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
santanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From what you and Fyzzyman said, I guess when I am done with
Programming Python, graduating to the latest features would
be quite easy. Isn't it?
QOTW: It might be nice if it was widely understood (in IT) that Python was
a language any competent programmer could pick up in an afternoon, such that
Java, C, and Perl shops would not be concerned about the need for their staff
to learn a new language. -- Eric Pederson
What's kind of
QOTW: It might be nice if it was widely understood (in IT) that Python was
a language any competent programmer could pick up in an afternoon, such that
Java, C, and Perl shops would not be concerned about the need for their staff
to learn a new language. -- Eric Pederson
What's kind of
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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One ought to do a little research before publishing an article.
Apparently, many authors and editors are too lazy to do so.
... and/or ignorant or uncultured.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bah. Nothing teaches you a new language like having your job depend upon
it. People who study languages merely for personal growth learn 50% of
the syntax and 1% of the concepts, and
QOTW: The right solution will end up being unique to Python though. It has
to feel like Python. -- Guido van Rossum
http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2005/01/amazon_devcon_g_4.html
Sparring with Alex Martelli is like boxing Mike Tyson, except that one
experiences brain enhancement rather than brain
QOTW: The right solution will end up being unique to Python though. It has
to feel like Python. -- Guido van Rossum
http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2005/01/amazon_devcon_g_4.html
Sparring with Alex Martelli is like boxing Mike Tyson, except that one
experiences brain enhancement rather than brain
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tim Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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* There is much debate as to just how useful lambda functions are and
they are likely to be removed from the language in the distant futute
(python 3)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dan Perl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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has the conciseness of the C statement. The pre- and post-increment
and -decrement in C/C++/Java are very powerful and I miss them in python.
Me, too.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[thoroughly appropriate
focus on Engelbart and
his Augment colleagues]
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(or great) guess and
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heather Stovold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to make a GUI interface. Some of the screens need to be dynamically
created, with the screen information in a database. Included in the database
will be pictures (.gif or .jpg)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tonino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HI,
I have a 2 phase question:
Phase 1 is I am needing to automate a report generation from a
proprietary product. Currently a person sits and input's the data into
a GUI frontend and clicks's the appropriate buttons to start the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the most funny things within open-source is that switching:
first:
we have powerfull solutions which beat this and that
then:
hey, this is just volunteer work
I don't see the contradiction here. It beats a
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Ilias Lazaridis]
...
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That leaves volunteers, or a company that wants what you want enough
to pay for it on their own (which has happened, but not often
QOTW: I've forgotten what we are arguing about, but I'm sure I'm
right. -- Jive Dadson
I believe the best strategy against Identity theft is bad
credit. -- Tom Willis
You can't live without unit tests. And once you have unit tests, the
added value of declarations is tiny, and their cost
QOTW: I've forgotten what we are arguing about, but I'm sure I'm
right. -- Jive Dadson
I believe the best strategy against Identity theft is bad
credit. -- Tom Willis
You can't live without unit tests. And once you have unit tests, the
added value of declarations is tiny, and their cost
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've started a few threads before on object persistence in medium to
high end server apps. This one is about low end apps, for example, a
simple cgi on a personal web site that might get a dozen hits a day.
The idea is you
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
bruno modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bryan wrote:
Amol Vaidya wrote:
Hi. I am interested in learning a new programming language, and have
been debating whether to learn Ruby or Python.
(snip)
why don't you do what i did? download ruby and spend a day or
QOTW: Using Unix for 20+ years probably warps one's perception
of what's obvious and what isn't. -- Grant Edwards
... windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they are
people too. -- James Stroud
The Widget Construction Kit (WCK) is an extension API that allows
you to
QOTW: Using Unix for 20+ years probably warps one's perception
of what's obvious and what isn't. -- Grant Edwards
... windoze users--despite their unfortunate ignorance, they are
people too. -- James Stroud
The Widget Construction Kit (WCK) is an extension API that allows
you to
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Sybren Stuvel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Devan L enlightened us with:
I would not recommend trying to code on a handheld device. Small
screen size and [usually] small keyboards make it
less-than-practical. Stick with a laptop, or write it in a notebook,
if you
QOTW: - don't use SAX unless your document is huge
- don't use DOM unless someone is putting a gun to your head - Istvan Albert
I wouldn't fret too much about a sharp remark from Fredrik Lundh.
They're pretty much all that way. ;) It looks like you already did the
right thing - read past the
QOTW: - don't use SAX unless your document is huge
- don't use DOM unless someone is putting a gun to your head - Istvan Albert
I wouldn't fret too much about a sharp remark from Fredrik Lundh.
They're pretty much all that way. ;) It looks like you already did the
right thing - read past the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kevin Walzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I've gotten all the approropriate resources for learning Python (docs,
books, tutorials), so my question is this: are there any gotchas that
Tcl
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Thomas Guettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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creating source code with a script, is no good solution.
Once I had to maintain lisp code which stored its data in lisp code, too
(incl.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Russell E. Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[acute observations]
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Features of Python that are well integrated and well worth using include:
- objects
- collection classes
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Since Cameron didn't provide examples, let me grab a simple one. The
cheetah templating system works by creating Python programs from the
template. The
QOTW: The lesson for me is to spend much less time on Python discussion
and much more on unfinished projects. So even if I never use the new syntax,
I will have gained something ;-) - Terry Reedy
In short, this group is a broad church, and those readers with brains the
size of planets should
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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It's very flexible - but at this point, the configuration file is a
Python program, and not really suitable to use by non-programmers.
QOTW: The lesson for me is to spend much less time on Python discussion
and much more on unfinished projects. So even if I never use the new syntax,
I will have gained something ;-) - Terry Reedy
In short, this group is a broad church, and those readers with brains the
size of planets should
QOTW: You can tell everything is well in the world of dynamic languages
when someone posts a question with nuclear flame war potential like 'python
vs. ruby' and after a while people go off singing hymns about the beauty
of Scheme... - vdrab
ctypes completely rocks. - Grant Edwards
Michael
QOTW: You can tell everything is well in the world of dynamic languages
when someone posts a question with nuclear flame war potential like 'python
vs. ruby' and after a while people go off singing hymns about the beauty
of Scheme... - vdrab
ctypes completely rocks. - Grant Edwards
Michael
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2005-11-16, Gorlon the Impossible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure how to phrase this question. I have a Python function
that sends MIDI messages to a synth. When I run it, I of course have
to wait until it is
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Gorlon the Impossible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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the fly' so to speak. I checked out the threading module and its
working for what I am trying to do at the moment, but I am open to
QOTW: ... '[B]ut assume that I have some other use case' isn't a valid
use case. - Fredrik Lundh
Rolling your own solution, on the other hand, can end in a long road
discovering what those CORBA people were doing for all those years. - Paul
Boddie
NOTW: sceptifications.
Steven D'Aprano
QOTW: ... '[B]ut assume that I have some other use case' isn't a valid
use case. - Fredrik Lundh
Rolling your own solution, on the other hand, can end in a long road
discovering what those CORBA people were doing for all those years. - Paul
Boddie
NOTW: sceptifications.
Steven D'Aprano
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Note also that you can freely download all of the code in my book as
http://examples.oreilly.com/pythonian/pythonian-examples.zip (it's just
36 KB).
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Yeah, O'Reilly tools have this delightful penchant for inserting a space
between two adjacent underscores, drives me crazy:-(.
Alex
Do more of us
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kay Schluehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to learn GUI programming in Python, but have to confess I
am finding it difficult.
Don't do it if you can prevent it.
GUI - toolkits are very complex beasts and at least to me a source of
QOTW: ... why does Microsoft try so hard to protect its sources?
To avoid embarrassment. -- Peter Maas and Grant Edwards
http://groups.google.com/groups?frame=leftth=9a599152d8b23b54
Sufficiently advanced cluelessness is indistinguishable from
malice. -- Alex Martelli
2.4 is final,
QOTW: ... why does Microsoft try so hard to protect its sources?
To avoid embarrassment. -- Peter Maas and Grant Edwards
http://groups.google.com/groups?frame=leftth=9a599152d8b23b54
Sufficiently advanced cluelessness is indistinguishable from
malice. -- Alex Martelli
2.4 is final,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
John Machin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jive wrote:
Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OTOH, people who only have VC6 just need to buy VS.NET 2003,
which is still available.
I don't even know how to do that! :-) What's the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Allan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HI
Hope this is the right place for this, I am new. I have a spec to
create
a (dual screen) framework application that
1 displays mp3, flash, jpegs etc. on top screen
2: displays buttons on bottom screen which alter image
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Axel Straschil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello!
Sorry Cameron, I was replying, now my folloup ;-):
Are you trying to convert one document in particular, or automate the
process of conveting arbitrary HTML documents?
I have an small CMS System where the customer
QOTW: [Python demands more thought in optimization, because i]n
other languages, by the time you get the bloody thing working it's
time to ship, and you don't have to bother worrying about making
it optimal. -- Simon Brunning
One of the best features of c.l.py is how questions phrased in the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jive wrote:
Can someone explain to me why Python 2.4 on MS Windows has these backward
compatibility problems? What am I missing?
The problem is the Python C/API. At the moment, it exposes things
directly (like
data
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Jive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Doesn't Microsoft have an answer for that? There are (at last count) nine
skillion ActiveX
components in the wild. Surely Microsoft didn't blast them into
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alexander Straschil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello!
I have to convert an HTML document to rtf with python, was just googling
for an hour and did find nothing ;-(
Has anybody an Idea how to convert (under Linux) an HTML or Pdf Document
to Rtf?
Thanks, AXEL
Are you
QOTW: [Python demands more thought in optimization, because i]n
other languages, by the time you get the bloody thing working it's
time to ship, and you don't have to bother worrying about making
it optimal. -- Simon Brunning
One of the best features of c.l.py is how questions phrased in the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alejandro Weinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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the standard GUI for Python. I read some tutorials, but didn't go to
far, and didn't like the Tkinter looks too much. Then I tried
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. :-) Two remarks.
o One-liner fits the eyes brains of a portion of people.
True! So, personally, I'd rather code, e.g.,
def bools(lst): return map(bool, lst)
rather than breal this
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Craig Ringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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IMO the reference behaviour of functions in the C API could be
clearer. One often has to simply know, or refer to the docs, to tell
whether a
QOTW: I found the discussion of unicode, in any python book I have,
insufficient. -- Thomas Heller
If you develop on a Mac, ... Objective-C could come in handy. . . .
PyObjC makes mixing the two languages dead easy and more convenient than
indoor plumbing. -- Robert Kern
Among other
QOTW: I found the discussion of unicode, in any python book I have,
insufficient. -- Thomas Heller
If you develop on a Mac, ... Objective-C could come in handy. . . .
PyObjC makes mixing the two languages dead easy and more convenient than
indoor plumbing. -- Robert Kern
Among other
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Dembinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If it has to be both reliable and secure, I suggest you used more
redundant language such as Ada 95.
That's something to think about and it's come up in discussions, but
probably
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Christopher Koppler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Manager culture is still very much mired in rituals that may in one form
or another go back to hunter-gatherer days (or maybe even further);
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Hans Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Rubin wrote:
You should write unit tests either way, but in Python you're relying
on the tests to find stuff that the compiler finds for you with Java.
As I wrote on my weblog a while ago, I suspect that this effect is
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mark Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[tale of *very*
typical experience
with non-software
engineers]
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use something like
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bulba! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True. I have a bit of interest in economics, so I've seen e.g.
this example - why is it that foreign branches of companies
tend to cluster themselves in one city or country (e.g.
It's not just
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Terry Reedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well clearly there's a spectrum. However, I have previously written that
the number of open source projects that appear to get stuck somewhere
between
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Roy Smith wrote:
I think you've hit the nail on the head. In awk (and perl, and most
shells, and IIRC, FORTRAN), using an undefined variable silently gets
you a default value (empty string or zero). This tends to propagate
errors and make
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mark Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Don't start me! Dammit, too late ...
I've noticed that they have an overwhelming obsession with GUIs, too.
They design wizards for everything. Damn
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Nick Coghlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The script is executed in a process separate from your command shell, and
hence
has no effect on your shell's current directory.
There are some things that batch files and shell scripts are still good for -
manipulating the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Alex Martelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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One last reflection -- I believe there are or used to be some programs
written by people no doubt of very good will, distributed with all
sources and
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isaac Gouy wrote:
Which stated Python is doing the heavy lifting with GMPY which is a
compiled C program with a Python wrapper - but didn't seem to compare
that to GMPY with a Java wrapper?
You are missing the main idea: Java is by
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