[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To avoid this, you need to write something like:
. list = []
. for key in configuration.options(core):
. list.append((key,configuration.get(core,substitution))
. print list
This cause me problems for a different reason, ie., that user vars keys
appear in what
Michael Hoffman wrote:
Philippe C. Martin wrote:
I am using my own install script for my software and am looking for a
flawless way to figure out where python, and more specifically
site-packages is installed.
The flawless way would be to use distutils. In fact you shouldn't even
need your own
I have an application where I need a very simple database, effectively a
very large dictionary. The very large dictionary must be accessed from
multiple processes simultaneously. I need to be able to lock records
within the very large dictionary when records are written to. Estimated
number
Robert Brewer wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
I have an application where I need a very simple database,
effectively a very large dictionary. The very large
dictionary must be accessed from multiple processes
simultaneously. I need to be able to lock records within
the very large dictionary
I have a preference for gdbm when building DBM based dictionaries but
have found I cannot count on it being there all the time. Therefore, I
have created this little tidbit which you call before opening your
anydbm database to bias the preference towards gdbm instead of dbhash:
# bias DBM
Ricardo Bugalho wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:33:26 -0500, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
When I look at databases, I see a bunch of very good solutions that are
either overly complex or heavyweight on one hand and very nice and simple
but unable to deal with concurrency on the other. two sets
Thomas Bartkus wrote:
When you write that super dictionary, be sure to post code!
I could use one of those myself.
hmmm it looks like you have just flung down the gauntlet of put up or
quityerwhinging. I need to get the crude implementation done first but
I think I can do it if I can find a
Jp Calderone wrote:
Why not use apt-get?
well, I am recommending using apt-get but within entirely different and
separate namespace for modules. But on second thought,, it might not be
necessary to separate the namespace. If you just need to add the
repository for Python modules to the
I've been searching around for the equivalent to the mailbox module
except with the capability of writing messages as well as reading. If
it makes it easier, I only need to write to maildir mailboxes.
I found a reference to http://pythonms.sf.net/ Python mail system) but
it seems to have
are there any simple examples of how to do record locking with bsddb3?
the bsddb3 documentation is reasonably opaque. For example, the DB
initialization requires a DBEnv instance for certain environmental
features such as locking. but if you want locking, what happens next?
I suspect the
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
are there any simple examples of how to do record locking with bsddb3?
got this far with sample code from the activeware site
filename = 'fruit'
# Get an instance of BerkeleyDB
db_env = db.DBEnv()
db.set_lk_detect(db.DB_LOCK_YOUNGEST)
db_env.open(/tmp/bsddb3
man, I'm in really bad form replying to myself twice but I'me solved the
problem at least in a simple form.
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
are there any simple examples of how to do record locking with bsddb3?
#!/usr/bin/python
from bsddb import db
Andy Leszczynski wrote:
I need to now option I open the Berkley DB (both db and env) to have
configuration for multiple writers and multiple readers. Via multiple
processes and multiple threads. No trx needed.
the simple answer is you can't. bdbm is probably single writer multiple
chris wrote:
I need simple data persistence for a cgi application that will be used
potentially by multiple clients simultaneously. So I need something
that can handle locking among writes. Sqlite probably does this, but
I am using Python 2.4.4, which does not include sqlite. The dbm-style
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
En Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:32:07 -0200, Christian Kortenhorst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
But there is no rsync for windows without using cygwin
That's no big deal; rsync doesn't require tons of libraries, just
cygpopt-0.dll and cygwin1.dll. See this page:
I'm having a problem (Python 2.4) converting strings with random 8-bit
characters into an escape form which is 7-bit clean for storage in a database.
Here's an example:
body = meta['mini_body'].encode('unicode-escape')
when given an 8-bit string, (in meta['mini_body']), the code fragment above
Almost there: use string-escape instead; it takes a byte string and
returns another byte string in ASCII.
perfect. Exactly what I wanted. thank you so very much.
I really don't care about the character set used. I'm looking for a
matched set
of operations that converts the string
how thread safe is the gdbm module?
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Steve Holden wrote:
Tim Roberts wrote:
Derick van Niekerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok - so it's not really an awesome achievement and only handles basic
templating needs (no loops and other programming constructs) but maybe
someone will find it useful.
sarcasm
Sure, that's what the world
I have wasted way too much time on this problem already and I'm hoping it's
just
that I'm missing some bit of information somewhere.
I need an SMTP receiver so I can handle filter requests from a postfix mail
server. the asyncore version works fine for one request at a time. This is
great
John Nagle wrote:
Yes. One of the basic design flaws of UNIX was that interprocess
communication was originally almost nonexistent, and it's still not all that
great. It's easy to run other programs, and easy to send command line
parameters, but all you get back is a status code, plus
John Nagle wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
John Nagle wrote:
Yes. One of the basic design flaws of UNIX was that interprocess
communication was originally almost nonexistent, and it's still not
all that
great. It's easy to run other programs, and easy to send command line
parameters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello, I'm a teen trying to do my part in improving the world, and me
and my pal came up with some concepts to improve the transportation
system.
I have googled up and down for examples of using python to create a
city street but I can not find any.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, I'm looking for a good Python environment. That is, at least an editor
and a debugger, and it should run on Windows. Does anyone have any idea?
I've been looking for the equivalent although I want the IDE to run on Windows
and to be able to edit/debug/bzr files on
marcello wrote:
Hello
I need to do this:
1 opening a file for writing/appending
2 to lock the file as for writing (i mean: the program
that lock can keep writing, all others programs can't )
3 wtite and close/unlock
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/65203
been using
I have a small problem that may be best solved by dragging and dropping
a mail message to an icon. But I'm honestly not sure what the data will
look like from different e-mail clients. Since most of my programming
experience is something a user rarely sees, I'm not even sure where to
start
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Drag'n'Drop is highly OS-dependand and clearly out of scope for
standard-out-of-the-box python. If you are on macintosh, pyobjc and
http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?DragAndDrop
will certainly help.
it does, thank you. as for drag
Luis M. González wrote:
For those interested in the simplest, easiest and most pythonic web
framework out there, there's a new page in Wikipedia:
this all depends on your criteria for simplest and easiest. For me HTML
is pure hell. I avoid it whenever possible because it literally makes
my
Ravi Teja wrote:
You don't need to do that. You can always use your favorite templating
system. I am using Cheetah.
actually, I got burned lots of times using template systems. I think I
live by the minimum new scar tissue metric. After all, the only
intuitive user interface is the
Paul McGuire wrote:
At first, Guido seemed ambivalent, and commented on the
contentiousness of the issue, but it seems that the non-English
speakers can more easily find word breaks marked with underscores
justification tipped the scale in favor of
lower_case_with_underscores.
The PEP
Warren Stringer wrote:
Hi Eric,
You make a compelling argument for underscores. I sometimes help a visually
impaired friend with setting up his computers.
I'm wondering about the aural output to you second example:
link.set_parse_action(emit_link_HTML)
Does it sound like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FWIW, even though I think proper-case-with-seperators is greatly
preferrable to camelCase, I certainly don't think that speaking the
names is a really major point.
unless you or someone with working hands helps fix up voicecoder, it is a major
point for people like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read through the ACL instructions on MoinMoin's site, but I
don't understand how to make it work. See
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAccessControlLists
To me it seems to be saying that you have to create a page before you
can set the ACL for it. I
I upgraded to version 9.5 and all of my tools which enabled me to program by
voice in Emacs are broken. it's one of those dagnabbit a moment's of life.
What I am looking for is a Windows based Python Smart editor that uses specific
rich text edit controls as specified here:
this morning I was looking at Python and XUL. I was impressed by the very
interesting projects that were happening around 2005 but it seems like they
have
all died. Integrating Python at the Mozilla was also very intriguing as it
held
the promise of eliminating JavaScript for extension
Chris Mellon wrote:
wx does (in large part), but most likely the problem is that the rich
text control used in most editors is not the win32 rich text control,
but instead Scintilla, which is designed for source editing and is
much easier to use. Very few editors, of any kind, use the native
Steve Howell wrote:
--- Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would not completely give up on the idea of Python
itself running in the browser, although obviously
there have been lots of false starts.
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2007_04_28.shtml#e702
Steve Howell wrote:
--- Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2007_04_28.shtml#e702
interesting. Very interesting but I suspect the
message is don't hold your
breath but don't give up hope.
Exactly. :)
This is one of those things
Steve Howell wrote:
--- Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Howell wrote:
--- Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2007_04_28.shtml#e702
interesting. Very interesting but I suspect the
message is don't hold your
Alex Reinhart wrote:
Yeah, I just realized that. What would I do to act as an open proxy as well?
emulate the Apache proxy capability, especially the reverse proxy.
more seriously, what you need to do is from common proxy and web server
ports, accept proxy requests with a destination port
I apologize if this is an FAQ but googling has not turned up anything,
at least to my keywords.
I need to parse a configuration file from an existing application and
I'm treating it as a dictionary. I created my class with a parent class
of dict. Everything works okay except I discover I
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
dict.__setitem__(self, index.upper()) = value
oh duh.
Or better even
super(subclass, self).__setitem__(key.upper(), value)
hmm. http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/
I think I need to do some more reading.
---eric
--
Alex Reinhart wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Alex Reinhart wrote:
Yeah, I just realized that. What would I do to act as an open proxy as
well?
emulate the Apache proxy capability, especially the reverse proxy.
more seriously, what you need to do is from common proxy and web server
ports
I'm creating a dialogue style interface for an application on a
dedicated system. All I have is basic Python 2.3. Is there anything
like an all Python dialog equivalent floating around? I'm currently
hacking away in curses but it's taking me a long way down what I fear to
be a wrong path.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dialog binary is 110 KB. Won't it fit ?
missing library. I have ncurses and newt and dialog seems to require
something called ncursesw. I've been trying to find the Python newt
module as well and that seems to be as invisible as the creature it's
named after.
--
Miki wrote:
Hello Eric,
Is there anything like an all Python dialog equivalent floating around?
http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/
I'm sorry. I should have been more explicit. I need a textbased
interface such as the ones you would get with curses and dialogue.
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
http://excess.org/urwid/ ?
I just found that about an hour ago. the demos work on the target
system so I'm comfortable enough to go down that path.
thank you all.
---eric
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Thomas Dickey wrote:
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dialog binary is 110 KB. Won't it fit ?
missing library. I have ncurses and newt and dialog seems to require
something called ncursesw. I've been trying to find the Python newt
seems to require
tac-tics wrote:
a wrote:
can someone tell me how to use them
thanks
sigh...
You do a google on them:
http://docs.python.org/tut/node7.html#SECTION00714
thank you for the reminder. But after reading it, I was left with a
question. Why the new syntax for what appears
I need to to be able to conditionally log based on the method the log
statement is in and one other factor like a log level. in order to do
so, I need to be able to automatically find out the name of the method
and its class but I haven't found out how to do that yet.
for example,
class
Peter Otten wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
I need to to be able to conditionally log based on the method the log
statement is in and one other factor like a log level. in order to do
so, I need to be able to automatically find out the name of the method
and its class but I haven't found
Peter Otten wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
[in private mail -- please don't, Eric]
sorry. my preference is for private mail. it's my way of trying to be
kind to others by reducing list clutter.
I don't understand. The logging package detects the function name without
user intervention
Peter Otten wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Here is yet another revision of my example then:
it's making more and more sense although I don't quite follow 'property'
quite yet. But I see that get_logger is invoked prior to the
__logger.info call.
I was looking at how to implement one
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
I don't get all the details of what's all that stuff for, but from the
error and traceback, I think you forgot to create the filter_test
instance. That is, change lgr.addFilter(filter_test) to
lgr.addFilter(filter_test())
do'h . for some reason, I thought
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:15:56 -0400, Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
I don't get all the details of what's all that stuff for, but from the
error and traceback, I think you forgot to create
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:29:34 -0400, Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
yes. here is the code that fails. I don't understand why the unbound
method. what is really weird is that when I singlestep through the
code
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
I've never resorted to the debugger -- it's always been faster for
me to just wolf-fence* code with print statements...
depends on the situation for me. normally I use log statements that
turn on or off based on predicates (now I need to figure out how to
I have a bunch of small modules that I use within my application. Most
of these modules are single file modules. Currently, I have them set up
as stand-alone modules but because it's a royal pain to fetch five or 10
of these modules for each application and tracking whether or not they
are
Jorge Godoy wrote:
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have a bunch of small modules that I use within my application. Most of
these modules are single file modules. Currently, I have them set up as
stand-alone modules but because it's a royal pain to fetch five or 10
Elmo Mäntynen wrote:
Is there something better than using fnctl? It seems a bit intimidating
with a quick look.
try the portlocker wrapper from the active state cookbook. I have a
version which has been slightly updated for more modern pythons. I
really need to make my darcs repository
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hardemr wrote:
I've just read all of the answers. Most of yours said that there are
many web frameworks ,so it is nonsense to make a new web framework in
python.
Hardemr, I like Ajacksu's answer, with a twist. Please concnentrate on
writing a Visual Studio-like
I have a collection of packages and I want to put them under single unifying
name. my goal is to reduce namespace pollution and make all these packages
accessible as 'import vvv.aaa'. In more detail, if I have packages 'aaa' and
'bbb', what do I do to put those packages under unifying name
I have an environment where I have a bunch of data files or use would like
Python application. I want to use the data_files specification of set up to
distribute those files. But I also need to change ownership and permissions.
I
know there's some way to do this because I've done it once
Ben Finney wrote:
Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Neither? Emacs is both editor *and* IDE.
I think of it more as feature full but somehow unsatisfying. For example, for
those of us PRDs ( Politely Referred to as Disabled) who are trying to program
by voice could use an enumeration
I have a module which needs to invoke a suid helper program in order to
do what it needs to do. This suid helper program needs to be built and
installed at the same time as the module.
Is there any way to do this with distutils? I've been looking through
the documentation but haven't really
Fuzzyman wrote:
Because it is client side (rather than running on the server), it has
no built in comments facility. I use Haloscan for comments, but I'm
always on the look out for a neat comments system to integrate with
Firedrop.
I personally prefer the 'client side' approach, as it
Assuming one can't avoid the need to set the group ID of a Python
program, is a wrapper program still considered the best way to do that?
the reason I ask is that a few years ago, I picked up a program that was
(and maybe still is) shipped with Python as a wrapper for sgid programs.
I
Nick Craig-Wood wrote:
This is excellent advice... I was diagnosed with tendonitis over 5
years ago now. I found the medical people generally hopeless, but the
physios really know their stuff (this is in the UK also).
some know their stuff but a vast majority of them are humming because
they
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:03:41 -0400, Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
What's really strange is that most people think laptop keyboards are
horrible but I absolutely love the ones I've had from Dell and Acer
Hari Sekhon wrote:
I have written a script and I would like to ensure that the script is
never run more than once at any given time.
What is the best way of testing and exiting if there is another version
of this script running somewhere on this machine?
I guess what I'm asking is how
is there anyway I can, in a setup.py file, set and internal equivalent
to the '--install-scripts' commandline option?
script installation directory but I don't want on the command line where
things can go horribly wrong if the user forgets. I would like to
create a new default setting for
Robert Kern wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
is there anyway I can, in a setup.py file, set and internal equivalent
to the '--install-scripts' commandline option?
Please don't. Hard-coding that interferes with the user's decision of where
things should go. Only the user should be making
Robert Kern wrote:
Okay, if it's just for internal use, then I certainly have no objection. Use
a
setup.cfg file:
http://docs.python.org/inst/config-syntax.html
Specifically, use something like the following section:
[install]
install_scripts=/path/to/scripts/directory
thank
Robert Kern wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Now I get to puzzle out how to install the CGI plus images plus
stylesheets plus plus plus mess. Probably a bit outside of the scope of
distutils even if the CGI programs are Python. ;-)
I recommend installing the data inside the package
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
So what I have seen so far says that to be able to take data from a
series of directories scatter it to other directories may be out of
scope. It's okay. If I have to write a wrapper, it won't be the first
time.
do'h.
http://docs.python.org/dist/node13.html
Keith Perkins wrote:
On a similar note , I have another question about distutils and data files.
I have a little program that uses a txt file to store data, and it works
fine running it in it's own folder, if I install through distutils, using
sudo to get it to write to the site-packages
Robert Kern wrote:
Instead, include the default data inside the package (read-only to non-root
users). Then allow the script itself to create the directory the first time
it
is run (read-write, and it should then automatically be accessible to the
user
that ran the script). You might
MonkeeSage wrote:
Here's a class using Fredrik's suggestions to provide generic,
cross-platform file locking (only tested on *nix however, with the two
test files listed [i.e., run test1.py in one terminal then test2.py in
another]):
http://pastie.caboo.se/15851
Ps. The lockfile should
Jesse Noller wrote:
Hey All,
I'm working on an script that will generate a file of N size (where N is
1k-1gig) in small chunks, in memory (and hash the data on the fly) and
pass it to an httplib object for upload. I don't want to store the file
on the disk, or completely in memory at any
MonkeeSage wrote:
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
the problem with this solution is that it does not handle the read
nonexclusive/write exclusive locking model. In this model, reads don't
block, they only register that the request is in process. writes lock
request block until all outstanding
Thomas Jollans wrote:
Not that I know of, but thanks to the WSGI (specified in PEP 333:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0333/) you should be able to convert
your app to WSGI, which will run on mod_python, relatively easily
(depending on your code; 'print' won't work anymore)
I assume this
I'm developing Python code on multiple VM Ware guest OS running ubuntu.
I need to share common file space so that each of these guest
instances will have complete access to the to all of the files.
The problem is that, because of a quirk (or misfeature) of VM Ware
shared filesystem, all of
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Eric S. Johansson schrieb:
The problem is that, because of a quirk (or misfeature) of VM Ware
shared filesystem, all of the directories and files are owned by root
with a 700 permissions. When I run setup.py install, they are installed
as root with 700 permissions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gabriel I use a discardable email address from Yahoo. Spam filtering is
Gabriel good, and when you get too much spam, just delete that address
Gabriel and create another one.
Maybe it's just me, but creating and discarding email addresses makes me
think
How can I limit when my code run only when it's a build or install
setup.py command and only after the setup method?
I need to do some processing after setup.py runs and I've been
successful writing the code to do what I need but the problem is it runs
every time I run setup.py regardless of
as one would expect when creating a body of software, eventually you
create a series of relatively generic components you find yourself using
over and over again. As a result, I'm finding myself slightly bit by
the same problem I have faced multiple times of the past. Namely, how
do you
Ben Finney wrote:
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
as one would expect when creating a body of software, eventually you
create a series of relatively generic components you find yourself using
over and over again. As a result, I'm finding myself slightly bit by
the same
Ben Finney wrote:
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben Finney wrote:
setuptools allows downloads and/or installs from any specified
location. The Cheeseshop is just a convenient default location.
- use easy_install to automatically download and install them
when the main
alisonken1 wrote:
As to the question fail to see how version control relates to
code/test separation, the original poster asked several questions, one
of which was production/testing code separation.
Along with the separation (so while you're testing new functionality,
you don't break
Serge Orlov wrote:
How about one? I bundle everything together. Sharing modules at end
user host is more difficult because you have to test many combinations.
Needless to say, end users also have a strange ability to create
untested combinations of modules :)
it's the exact same problem.if
Rony Steelandt wrote:
http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn9066
To nice to be true ?
its early technology. It's difficult to install and it definitely need
some extra horsepower because the two people developing it are also
disabled (like me). The only thing I've done to support the
I'm looking for a scgi modules that make it easy to convert a CGI using
the standard Python CGI module. I'm hoping for something that will run
my program either as scgi or cgi.
I did find something called paste which purports to be some sort of CGI
Bridge framework but from the documentation,
fedora
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# file /etc/postfix/transport*
/etc/postfix/transport:ASCII English text
/etc/postfix/transport.db: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native
byte-order)
# python /usr/lib/python2.4/whichdb.py /etc/postfix/transport
UNKNOWN /etc/postfix/transport
# python
in trying to make programming in Python more accessible to disabled programmers
(specifically mobility impaired speech recognition users), and hitting a bit of
a wall. The wall (for today) is indentation. I need a method of getting the
right indentation without having to speak a bunch of
Almar Klein wrote:
Hi Eric,
First of all, I like your initiative.
there's nothing like self interest to drive one's initiative. :-) 14 years with
speech recognition and counting. I'm so looking to my 15th anniversary of being
injured next year
another initiative is exporting the speech
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 14, 4:08 pm, Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Almar Klein wrote:
Hi Eric,
First of all, I like your initiative.
there's nothing like self interest to drive one's initiative. :-) 14 years
with
speech recognition and counting. I'm so looking to my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the if, why do
you hit backspace? What is it that you would like to have happen?
the goal is to make some aspects of indentation behave the same without context
dependency. this goal exists for many features of
Aaron Brady wrote:
On Nov 14, 8:01 pm, Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand. If you don't want to terminate the if, why do
you hit backspace? What is it that you would like to have happen?
the goal is to make some aspects of indentation
Aaron Brady wrote:
You see examples here from time to time that don't follow the rigid C+
+ formatting. Some examples:
def classmaker( ):
class X:
something
return X
class X:
class Y:
something
if something:
class X:
pass
else:
def X( ):
pass
Some
John Yeung wrote:
This is such a fascinating and compelling thread that it has pulled me
out of lurker mode.
Eric, I would like to say I also admire your initiative, but even more
so your patience. You seem to handle comments of all types
gracefully.
Should have seen me 20 years ago.
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