Xah Lee wrote:
> Logo LISP
>
> Xah Lee, 2006-12
>
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
> «Small problem. You forget that Ron Garret wants us to change the
> name of Common Lisp as the sure-fire way to make it more popular (well,
> hang on, he says it is necessary, not suff
Mark Tarver wrote:
> How do you compare Python to Lisp?
Lisp programmers are smarter and better looking. And better programmers.
Not sure if that is what you were after, though.
> What specific advantages do you
> think that one has over the other?
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=e
next question has to be, how often does that come up? When
refactoring it sometimes feels like I do nothing else. :) It turns out
that this is an insanely natural way to work with code.
Note also that after any amount of dicing I simply hit a magic key combo
and the editor reindents everything
ad years of development, it has had millions of
> dollars thrown at it by VC firms -- and yet Python is winning over Lisp
> programmers. Think about it.
Haha, what's the score? And how much time is left in the first quarter?
:)
ken
--
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s ass for it at Laguna Seca:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=lamborghini&word2=ford
Come on, COBOL is a great language, even has macros (copy ... replacing)
and the worlds greatest case statement, evaluate. We are proud to be its
neightbor.
ken
--
Algebra: h
ogrammer if they had it in them. You
might have the right language for you because what Python does have is
lotsa libraries, and if you are just hacking scripts to glue together
libraries the expressiveness of Lisp is more than offset by the better
library support in Python.
ken
--
Algebra: http://w
actly
tempting. So... is GvR being scared off by a straw man?
The other possibility is that he is just trying to justify not doing it
because it would be so hard without the regular syntax of Lisp,
including parens, and with the JIT module resolution problem discussed
earlier in his remarks. Unde
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:52:33 -0500, Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Aahz wrote:
>>
>>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>Mark Tarver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'
tmh wrote:
> Time for some more wine.
...and then just cut and paste the snipped bit into:
http://wiki.alu.org/The_Road_to_Lisp_Survey
...if you are not there already. The survey questions are optional and
what you wrote is perfect as is. Tough call on what goes in:
http://wiki.alu
parse a DSL was so disappointing.
I guess your other excuse is that your BDFL says the same thing.
All in all, this is getting pretty funny. I am starting to picture you
all (including GvR) running around with your hands over your ears going
woo-woo so you cannot hear what we are saying.
:)
ken
rogrammers.html
>
There we find: "But when our hypothetical Blub programmer looks in the
other direction, up the power continuum, he doesn't realize he's looking
up. What he sees are merely weird languages... Blub is good enough for
him, because he thinks in Blub."
Wha
an ENIAC.
>
> Anything any language can do is possible in any other language,...
At what cost?
ken
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"Well, I've wrestled with reality for thirty-five
years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally
won out over i
nd actually, I'll give you one point: I've been hitting my head against
> a brick wall over a particular problem, and I think your email just gave
> me a clue how to solve it. Sometimes prefix/postfix notation is the right
> tool for the job. See, I can learn from Lisp.)
I th
about
Lisp programmers misses the point to which you respond: after they had
done all the work to implement an object system, they were able to make
it look like Lisp had always had CLOS, without changing the compiler.
Keep those fat pitches coming. :)
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-techn
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 02:29:56 -0500, Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
>>
>>David Lees wrote:
>
>
>>Those raving about
>>Lisp are quite accomplished at all those other languages, and know about
>> what they are talking.
>
Alex Mizrahi wrote:
> (message (Hello 'Ken)
> (you :wrote :on '(Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:26:02 -0500))
> (
>
> KT> keep the Pythonistas from straying. But you have an excuse: Lispniks
> KT> always /talk/ about macros giving us the ability to create a DSL. But
>
Bjoern Schliessmann wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
>>Note also that after any amount of dicing I simply hit a magic key
>>combo and the editor reindents everything. In a sense, Lisp is the
>>language that handles indentation best.
>
>
> Erm ... because t
ot;.
No, they gravitated to a language that was closer to what they already
knew, C or Java (which also mimicked C to pick up those users). Later
charms of Python were a great community and library support. Lisp simply
does not have the latter, one is forever rolling one's own bindings
t: famous Lisp style rule: never use a macro where a function will do.
Not sure it is worth wasting more time on you at this point or I would
offer examples. Could you calm down a bit and stop making things up?
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
"Well, I
t.
And if you all dig back thru this thread you will find me quoting GvR on
the difference, which is (paraphrasing) "with macros you do not even
know where the function calls are". I think he is talking about a
loop-like erection of a new language.
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.
community I was inclined to contribute to afterwards. I hear stories
> similar to mine time and again, yet the Lisp community won't take heed.
> They'd rather squeal about the superiority of macros and whine about
> their frustrations in Python news groups.
>
You seem to be the unh
l.
> This will always
> bias the significance of learning syntax as a factor in choice of
> language to be under reported.
That's OK, I am looking for the person so bright they have the
self-confidence to expose their failure. Then we do not have to dissect
them, we can ask th
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>yeah, I think it is. Folks don't vary that much. If every Lisp
>>programmer also reports parens disappearing at about thirty days, any
>>given non-Lispnik can pretty much bet on the same exp
André Thieme wrote:
> Ken Tilton schrieb:
>
>> The last time we went thru this a Pythonista finally said, Oh, I get
>> it. These five lines of code I have to write all the time (two setup,
>> one func call, two cleanup) can be collapsed into one or two. The
>>
André Thieme wrote:
> Ken Tilton schrieb:
>
>>
>>
>> André Thieme wrote:
>>
>>> Ken Tilton schrieb:
>>>
>>>> The last time we went thru this a Pythonista finally said, Oh, I get
>>>> it. These five lines of code I have to
y use libraries from crappy
developers? Second, you think a language can stop people from writing
bad code? Java tried, and look where that got the language. Elsewhere a
Pythonista (Mr. Rubin?) bemoaned this thread's appearance of Pythonistas
shrinking from power... could you two get together? :)
hlights it to make sure I have not missed
anything, then give the re-indent command and eyeball the result. It
/is/ still possible to screw up because I work fast and loose, but only
very rarely do I end up with a parens in the wrong place, and then the
compiler finds something to whine ab
he radical nature of what you can do with macros, or
> understate it and make them seem just like functions.
Yep, both. The first is rare. CLOS is one, my Cells (ported this summer
to PyCells as part of SoC 2006) is another. The latter is the norm.
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technolog
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> The day has not yet arrived that nobody ever needs to edit code in a
> plain, vanilla text editor.
Gee, 200kloc of Lisp and I have not got there yet. Keep banging that
drom, Steve. :)
ken
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Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> If that's the best example of what macros can be used for, frankly I'm
> unimpressed.
We're shocked.
:)
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for thirty-five
yea
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:06:29 -0500, Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
>>As I type each right parens I eyeball
>>its partner as the editor highlights it to make sure I have not missed
>>anything,
>
>
> Er, weren't you one of th
ata?
You missed it? Google fight:
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Python&word2=Ruby
Python wins, 74 to 69.3. And there is no Monty Ruby to help.
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for
André Thieme wrote:
> mystilleef schrieb:
>
>> Ken Tilton wrote:
>>
>>> Lisp has all the cool qualities you like in your pets, plus native
>>> compilation in most implementations, plus maturity and a standard, plus
>>> a better OO, plus ma
diting easier.
Finally, Python is just a (fine) scripting language. Which means one
does not tackle hard problems with it, the kind one figures out as one
goes. That means less refactoring, and less refactoring means less
slicing and dicing of the code.
> Seeing as you asked, how much Python
tead of ours! :-)
>
>
> But if we did that, it wouldn't be Python any
> more, it'd be Lisp.
And someone would then have to invent Python.
Let Python be Python, let Lisp be Lisp. It's all good.
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
&
ne programs Lisp,
one should learn Loop -- it is definitely worth the bother. I def regret
not learning it sooner.
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for thirty-five
years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state
yntax for LOOP, btw. But the goofier syntax
is also where lies part of the "win", so learn that.
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for thirty-five
years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally
won o
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>>>The loop language is so complicated and confusing that I never
>>>>bothered trying to learn it.
>>
>>That was my stance for about seven years of intense Lisp. Then the
>>auth
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>Oh, my. time to trot out my "hey, X is cool, let's use it for
>>everything!" rant.
>
>
> Somehow it's something other than a rant if X is Lisp?
Ah, your discriminator mis
Markus Triska wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>I think all-rules-all-the-time Prolog is the poster boy for paradigm
>>slavery. (I did try for a famous two months to use Prolog as a
>>general-purpose programming language.)
>
>
>
hics
on win32, and I think they have Gtk bindings elsewhere (just guessing,
really). Everyone has Ltk, Cells-Gtk, and Celtk. (Two Tks, one Gtk if
that is not clear).
ken
--
Algebra: http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for
t; applied to _any_ system.
>
Now we know how one contractor ended up using English units when the
other was using French units and an entire Mars mission was lost: they
were both using the metric system.
[cue NASA aopologist Ron (or his sidekick Al) for some scenery-chewing
outrage ov
Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
> Paul Rubin wrote:
>
>> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Have you read On Lisp by Paul Graham? It is on-line. Just the preface
>>> will do, I think, maybe also Chapter One where he raves on macros. Do
>&
greg wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> pps. How would Python do this?
>
>
> Here's one way it could look:
>
> defskill("absolute-value",
> title = "Absolute Value",
> annotations = [
> "Take the absolute value o
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>don't know. The point is, we need code (not just data) in defskill
>>(apologies for nasty formatting):
>
>
> Man that whole thing is messy. I can't for the life of me understand
>
Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
> Paul Rubin wrote:
>
>> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> don't know. The point is, we need code (not just data) in defskill
>>> (apologies for nasty formatting):
>>
>>
>>
>>
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>>Man that whole thing is messy. I can't for the life of me understand
>>>why it's so important to use a macro for that. Even in Lisp, I'd
>>>probably set up the reverse thin
Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Paul Rubin wrote:
>>
>>> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>> don't know. The point is, we need code (not just data) in defskill
>>>> (apol
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>>>Man that whole thing is messy.
>>
>>I do not see much difference, except that the character count is 25%
>>less in the macro version:
>
>
> The macro calls aren't so ba
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>btw, you called the defskill messy (repeated below) "messy". The only
>>text not specific to absolute value is D-E-F-S-K-I-L-L.
>
>
> No, the messiness was not in the macro instantatio
Andrew Reilly wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:01:46 -0500, Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
>>You just
>>aren't used to thinking at a level where one is writing code to write code.
>
>
> Firstly, I'm looking into lisp because my current python project is to
Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
> Andrew Reilly wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:01:46 -0500, Ken Tilton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You just aren't used to thinking at a level where one is writing code
>>> to write code.
>>
>>
>>
>
Paul Rubin wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>Again, that is precisely the point of macrology (in cases like
>>this). When a pattern will repeat a sufficient number of times, and a
>>function cannot handle the job,
>
>
> But this is n
magically produce a
binding inside the reverse function. It would be easier to compare and
contrast with the Python equivalent if someone had posted such, but your
troops have fallen back to Fort So What? and pulled up the drawbridge.
Peace. Out. Ken
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Robert Uhl wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>meanwhile, I have not seen how Python lets you avoid revisiting dozens
>>of instances when changes to a mechanism are required.
>
>
> I think his solution would have been to use:
>
> def
greg wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> So this:
>> (defmethod tf-reverse (id (eql ',sub-id)) resx (drv-opnds tf drv))
>> ,@reverser)
>>
>> becomes this:
>>
>> (defmethod tf-reverse ((id (eql ',sub-id)) tf dr
greg wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> The reason I post macro expansions along with examples of the macro
>> being applied is so that one can see what code would have to be
>> written if I did not have the defskill macro to "write" them for me.
>
>
greg wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> The last example showed the macro inserting code to magically produce
>> a binding inside the reverse function.
>
>
> Are you sure? It looked to me like it was adding code *around*
> the reverse function, not inside it. I p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>>Andrew Reilly wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That all looks like data.
>>
>>No, not reverse, the part you did not understand. I do not mean what the
>>code was doing, I meant that it was code.
>>
>
greg wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> McCarthy: "Is code also data in Python?"
>> Norvig: "No."
>
>
> I don't think that was the right answer.
Norvig is a smart guy. He was talking to John McCarthy. He gave the
right answer. :)
> He
greg wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> I did explain the last little fun bit (where reverse code miraculously
>> got a case-specific "signed-value" parameter bound to exactly the
>> right bit of math structure).
>
>
> I didn't mention that b
Kay Schluehr wrote:
> Ken Tilton schrieb:
>
>
>>Looks promising. How does a generic engine that sees only a solution (a
>>list of mathematical expressions and for each the transformations,
>>results, and opnds logged by individual TF functions) build up this
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>Code is data is code
>>
>>I was hoping no one would make that mistake. :) macros are all about
>>code is data, but code is not data in Python* so the two words co
unch line: spare me the "oh gosh reindentation is so easy"
dodge. So is a manual control-shift-p to auto-reindent after an ungainly
paste, but this is definitely one of those deals where we don't notice
until we stop hitting ourselves with that hammer.
ken
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.
I am not interested in download torrents, etc. I'm just looking video
conferencing, and live video broadcasts, etc.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
- Ken
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Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
> within a python script, I like to create a collection which I fill with
> values from an external text-file (user editable).
>
> How is this accomplished the easiest way (if possible without the need
> of libraries which are not part of the standard distribution)?
>
> so
yawgmoth7 wrote:
> Hello, I am currently writing a script that requires a few different
> files to be opened, and examined. What I need to be able to do is use
> something like:
>
> filelist = os.system("ls")
> >
>
> I cannot think of a way to do this, I could put them in a list of
> something o
es of Linux which is that of choice. So, to any who think,
otherwise... there is absolutely NOTHING wrong or incorrect about TOP
posting. OK, rant mode off. I feel better now! I got that off my chest!
Ken
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I am new to python, can you please tell me how can I convert my python
script into an executable on linux?
i.e. instead of typing 'python myscript.py abc', I just need to do
'myscript.py abc'?
and how can I get the input argument from my script , in my example,
how can I read 'abc'?
Thank you.
--
The reasonable thing would be to use "yum".
> Not really a Python question, but I thought some on this list may be
> able to answer so here goes:
>
> I have several machines on which I must install CentOS. There are many
> updates to CentOS and it's very time consuming to do the updates ov
'ONE'
Both of these accomplish what I'm after; I prefer the second for its
brevity.
But either approach requires that I spell out my list of vars-to-alter
[a, b, c] twice. This strikes me as awkward, and would be difficult
with longer lists. Any suggestions for a better way to do this?
--Ken
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> Is there a way, to find out all references to the QMainWindow or its
> hosted QTable, for having a mechanism to destroy them?
>
Yes, of coarse, the docs are your friend :)
QObject::children()
QObject::removeChild()
QObject::parent()
To find all the children for an instance you
can create a lo
housands of lines of boilerplate code is worth bending
theory a little.
Is it possible to get the same syntactic/semantic results without
changing python?
- Ken
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, and my solution will be to
simply convert to unicode (since the code that uses the string is
unicode ready).
I am wondering if anyone knows where I can find a mapping from this
particular extended ascii code (where \xd1 is Ñ), to the corresponding
unicode characters.
Ken
--
http://mail.py
Um, never mind. The recent unicode conversation gave me my answer :-)
unicode(s, 'Windows-1252')
Ken Seehart wrote:
> I get this whenever I encounter a non-ascii character in a non-unicode
> string:
>
> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0
Cameron Laird wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I need to be able to generate a PDF report which consists
>> mostly of vector images (which I can generate as encapsulated
>> Postscript, PDF, or SVG). What I need is a way to combine
>> these fig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On May 2, 1:22 pm, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Monday Microsoft announced a new runtime for dynamic languages,
>>which they call "DLR". It sits on top of the conventional .NET runtime
>>(CLR) and provides services for dynamically typed languages lik
sturlamolden wrote:
> On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads.
>>Thanks.
>
>
> The only off-topic posting in this thread is your own (and now this
> one).
> Begone.
FWIW, I took Kaz's remark to be m
Has anyone written a python wrapper around the (Windows) dll
for converting between OSGB36 and ETRS89 coordinates ?
The dll and an application are available from http://www.qgsl.co.uk as
long as you register.
Information, if you don't know what I'm taking about:
-
&
then instantiate them in my attribute assignments. This gives me an
object that I can tweak the __doc__ attribute on. An example of what
my code looks like is included below.
I saw that PEP 224 [1] was trying to meet this need, but got rejected
because the proposed syntax wasn't cle
not going to try to propose another PEP over it. My itch is
scratched for now -- if the naming convention hack gets under my skin
eventually I'll try going down a source parsing route next.
Thanks again for the help!
-Ken
PS: I hope it's OK that I ignored your questions -- my initial
so
Brian Adkins wrote:
> John Nagle wrote:
>
>>Neither Lisp nor Python is an "industrial strength language".
>> The infrastructure is too weak. Hosting providers and distro
>> makers aren't concerned over whether Python works. They
>> care if C, C++, Java, PHP, and Perl work, but not Python o
John Nagle wrote:
> Brian Adkins wrote:
>
>> John Nagle wrote:
>
>
>> If you want to restart a debate, please go back and reply to some
>> serious post in the thread - don't hijack mine for your own evil
>> purposes and cut out the good parts - did you even see the movie?
>
>
>If you w
krishnakant Mane wrote:
> hello,
> right now I am involved on doing a very important accessibility work.
> as many people may or may not know that I am a visually handicap
> person and work a lot on accessibility. the main issue at hand is to
> create an accessible editor for open office.
> there
George Neuner wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2007 08:20:24 -0700, Ingo Menger
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>On 17 Apr., 12:33, Markus E Leypold
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What makes Xah a troll is neither off-topic posts nor being
>>>incoherent -- its the attitude. He's broadcasting his dri
Xah Lee wrote:
> Dear Ken,
>
> I want to thank you for your spirit in supporting and leading the lisp
> community, in spreading lisp the language both in what you have done
> technically as well as evangelization, as well as the love and
> knowledge attitude towards newsgr
as both an array
> and a String.
> In that environment the programmer must choose one or the other.
In this Java example, a and b are statically typed to be of type Object.
Both Strings and Arrays descend from Object. (And primatives like
integers and the like will be autoboxed into descend
Replying to myself in case someone finds this interesting.
Anyway, I took another shot at this with a little fresher mind, and it
was quickly obvious that I was trying to force attributes to behave
more like classes. It was a small step from there to creating a
factory function to return instance
times.
>
...
> Gabriel Genellina
I've only cared about class attributes to this point because my needs
have been simple. They may not always be, however, so I'll take a
shot at your challenge (below). I've basically just added a base
class that defines __setattr__ to the mi
Damien Kick wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:08:02 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> So much for the "free" in "free software". If you can't actually use
>>> it without paying money, whether for the software or for some book, it
>>> isn't really free, is it?
>>
Matthias Benkard wrote:
>>So this has nothing to
>>do with freedom in /any/ sense of the word, it has to do with a
>>political agenda opposed to the idea of private property.
>
>
> Freedom is inherently political, you know. You're condemning the FSF
> for being political, although the FSF's st
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Oct 8, 7:32 am, Joost Kremers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>Don't both "man" and those words for measurement come ultimately from
>>>words for "hand" (similarly to words like "manual", as in labor)?
>>
>>no.
>
>
> Do not bluntly con
t;> import math
>>> real_part = (3**-4.1) * math.cos(-4.1 * math.pi)
>>> imaj_part = (3**-4.1) * math.sin(-4.1 * math.pi)
>>> (real_part,imaj_part)
(0.01026806021211755, -0.0037372276904401318)
Ken
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Oct 17, 4:05 am, Ken Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of an approximation to raising a negative base to a
>>> fractional exponent? For example, (-3)^-4.1 since this cannot be
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Tech HR wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>On Feb 26, 6:32 am, Tech HR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>Our
>>>website is currently a LAMP appication with P=Python. We are looking for
>>>bright motivated people who know or are willing to learn Python and/
because None could also just mean that no newlines have been read.
Besides, it's not a good idea to stuff extra semantics like that.
Better would be a separate way to identify *universal-newlines *mode.
Ken Seehart
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Mark Lutz has several chapters on Tkinter
(O'Reilly). Thanks for your notes as I am still behind you.
Ken D.
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John Bokma wrote:
> Eli Gottlieb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>Oh, God, not another one.
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> Instead of cross posting more garbage, do as follows:
>
> Email a complaint to the email addresses you can look up yourself and
> include the entire message of Xah:
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> http://www.spamcop.net/
John Bokma wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> [ reported ]
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>>What might stop?
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> The excessive cross posting.
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>>I see one technical post every one or few weeks from
>>Xah, followed by a dozen posts from self-
razy that one person willfully creates such a mess every
>>time Xah posts? Shush!
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> Since you're posting from an edu tld, why are you wasting time and money
> instead of getting educated? It might stop you from acting like an idiot
> like you did just now.
>
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