):' when the index isn't needed. I'd also like to
implement most of the planned Python 3000 changes.
Any suggestions? I'm thinking Ophidian, for the snake connection,
or, possibly, Circus, from Monty Python's Flying Circus.
Given your stated goals, I like Phyton.
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by specifying a protocol that the values in your dict must implement,
instead. Protocols are plentiful in Python, perhaps more popular than
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also misnomered as duck-typing (clearly it should be nomed quack-typing).
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adventure,
Yes.
such as so
they're not stuck with a quasi hack of a language if they have to do
something that doesn't fit the framework anticipated by the language
designer.
That's not a reason, it's FUD.
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such as so
they're not stuck with a quasi hack of a language if they have to do
something that doesn't fit the framework anticipated by the language
ie: pos = 0, 2, 4
Thanks in advance, -h
Come, come! You can try harder than that.
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On 2007-06-21, Douglas Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Seriously, maybe Python looks like 'blub' (thanks, Paul
Graham), to the skilled Lisp user, but it makes a lot of other
languages look like 'blub', too, including, sometimes, Lisp:
Lisp has to 'blub
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That said, I wouldn't give up the summer I spent studying _Simply
Scheme_.
Sounds like fun. Is this like a kinder, gentler version of SICP?
No, it is a prequel. Along with How to Design Programs
about. Then you
try to solicit content in a bunch of programming language newsgroups.
Wow, that's pretty pathetic, even for a google-groups poster!
Maybe they lost the business plan. It's not surprising, since it
was probably written on a napkin.
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print k, v.__doc__
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Try thinking of self. as a notation that provides vital
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is a great
way to learn, but not that useful for solving exercises. ;)
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#...
Using a naming convention for class objects, e.g., camel-case, is
a practice very similar to hungarian notation.
I would've said something like: start learning the Python
community's naming conventions, and use those instead of
inventing your own.
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Neil Cerutti wrote:
How can I make the Python more idiomatic Python?
Have you taken a look at pyparsing ?
Yes, I have it. PyParsing has, well, so many convenience features
they seem to shout down whatever the core features are, and I
On 2007-07-02, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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from pyparsing import *
It's always good when your messages start like that. ;)
Ok, here is the step-by-step, beginning with your posted BNF.
(Based on your test cases, I think
would escape the
following quote character). Note also that a single backslash
followed by a newline is interpreted as those two characters
as part of the string, not as a line continuation.
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'-': (operator.sub, 'Sub')}[op]
KeyError: ''
**
op ought to be '+' or '-'. In fact, testing showed than none of
the result names for binop are being set correctly.
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Hi!
Python 3000 doesn't include many significant changes to the language
One exemple : non-Ascii characters in identifiers (= no significatif
change?)
It is one of not many?
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for a)? Maybe we should
remove it in py3k?
If the escaped quotes didn't function in raw strings, I'd be
unable to construct (with a single notation) a regex that
included both kinds of quotes at once.
re.compile(r'\)
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On 2007-07-04, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-07-04, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:21:14 +, Neil Cerutti wrote:
If the escaped quotes didn't function in raw strings, I'd be
unable to construct (with a single notation) a regex
On 2007-07-04, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:21:14 +, Neil Cerutti wrote:
If the escaped quotes didn't function in raw strings, I'd be
unable to construct (with a single notation) a regex that
included both kinds of quotes at once
Built-in Functions.
Apparently it is no longer needed or useful, but only kept for
backward compatibility.
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ZeroDivisionError, e:
... e.my_info = Oops!
... raise
...
try:
... foo()
... except ZeroDivisionError, e:
... print e.my_info
...
Oops!
Users could get at the extra info you attached, but it wouldn't
be automatically displayed by the interpreter.
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I'm sure I paid for it, but it wasn't willingly...
You should count your blessings. At least it doesn't play
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(some.csv, rb))
for row in reader:
# Add the row to the dictionary
In addition to Chris's answer, the csv module can read and write
dictionaries directly. Look up csv.DictReader and csv.DictWriter.
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The documentation for BaseException contains something that might
be relevant:
[...] If more data needs to be attached to the exception,
attach it through arbitrary attributes on the instance. All
Users
arithmetic upon them is unthinkable.
I shared your frustration with the csv module docs when I first
read them. But happily you can skip them and just read
the easily adapted examples (9.1.5 Examples).
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Neil Cerutti wrote:
You may need the traceback module to get at the error message, if
trying to read e.message can fail.
Something like this mess here: ;)
...
except Exception, e:
etype, evalue, etb = sys.exc_info
example
(although it didn't solve Chris's problem).
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EXIST!!! A
ridiculous claim to be sure, but we'd better let Herr Schluehr
know that in no uncertain terms...
Wow! That explains why I had so much trouble eating me Wheaties
this morning.
Can I still post messages if I don't exist?
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On 2007-07-05, John Machin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 6, 5:31 am, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mostly you can use the default 'excel' dialect and be quite
happy, since Excel is the main reason anybody still cares about
this unecessarily hard to parse (it requires more than one
On 2007-07-06, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-07-05, John Machin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 6, 5:31 am, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mostly you can use the default 'excel' dialect and be quite
happy, since Excel is the main reason anybody still cares about
.
Further, from the _Python Tutorial (9.6) Private Variables_:
(Buglet: derivation of a class with the same name as the base
class makes use of private variables of the base class
possible.)
In other words, it's a misfeature that's best avoided.
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design your program as a state machine.
Wouldn't it be easier to implement in a (hypothetical)
state-machine-based programming language than in a procedural
one? I think John was insinuating that a state-machine is more
like an object than it is like a procedure.
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to integer is the only support.
You can do:
d = int(s, base).
but not:
s = str(d, base)
The % format operator can do hex and octal, I believe.
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a microwave oven? ... What the!?!?
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online lectures, which
helps make up for its non-programmer slant.
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simple
statements, rather than promoting the use of nameless functions.
Ruby's
some_list.each do |item|
puts item
end
if I understood it correctly, In Python would be:
for item in some_list:
print item
That works for any object that supports the iterator protocol.
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means I'd be
forced to parse the string myself). Does anyone know of a way I
can make it use the string? Thanks.
Consult the documentation about time.strptime (to start) and then
datetime.strptime (which refers back to the time.strptime docs,
in a rather unfortunate manner).
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On 2007-07-24, Robert Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I have a string in the following format:
00:00:25.886411
I would like to pass this string into the datetime.time() class
and have
insight, if it
turns out that it matters. Preferably, the user of a class
doesn't have to really think about it much.
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On 2007-07-25, Alex Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a matter of style, how do you figure out that class_list is
a class attribute
):
return flatten(obj[0])
else:
return [obj[0]]
else:
return [obj[0]] + flatten(obj[1:])
x = [1, 2, (3, 4)]
y = (1, 2, [3, 4])
z = It even works with strings!
d = {foo: bar, baz: bat}
e = [[1], 2, 3, , 4]
f = [1, 2, 3, 4, []]
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On 2007-07-25, Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 19:26 +, Neil Cerutti wrote:
Speaking of the iter builtin function, is there an example of the
use of the optional sentinel object somewhere I could see?
Example 1: If you use a DB-API module that doesn't support
:
try:
for it in flattened(item):
yield func(it)
except TypeError:
yield func(item)
I'd be more confortable excepting some sort of IterationError (or
using an is_iterable function, of course). I guess there's always
itertools. ;)
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'__iter__' in dir(thing)
So then:
def is_iterable(thing):
return '__iter__' in dir(thing) or '__getitem__' in dir(thing)
Speaking of the iter builtin function, is there an example of the
use of the optional sentinel object somewhere I could see?
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to catch a TypeError exception when one might
be thrown by some other code. I agree with your opinion that it's
a design flaw, and most of my problems with the code were caused
by that flaw.
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yield item
else:
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):
while self.upto = n:
line = self.fileobj.readline()
if line == :
break
self.lines.append(line)
self.upto += 1
def __getitem__(self, n):
self._readupto(n)
return self.lines[n]
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Eddie Robinson
.
On the other hand, since you got it working without pyparsing,
probably you're problem doesn't need pyparsing.
Hopefully I'll have time to help you a bit more later, or Paul
MaGuire will swoop down in his pyparsing powered super-suit. ;)
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On 2007-07-26, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:02:39 +, Neil Cerutti wrote:
Based on the discussions in this thread (thanks all for your
thoughts), I'm settling for:
def is_iterable(obj):
try:
iter(obj).next()
return True
except
On 2007-07-25, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-07-25, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a quick flatten() function:
def flatten(obj):
if type(obj) not in (list, tuple, str):
raise TypeError(String, list, or tuple expected in
flatten().)
if len(obj) == 1
def is_iterable(obj):
try:
iter(obj)
return True
except TypeError:
return False
Is there a better way?
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I believe Guido doesn't like '' and decided to enforce !=
instead. Guess it's his language :).
I like 'not ==', cf 'not in'. Sadly it's a syntax error. However,
as a language designer, I'm not Guido.
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En Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:48:12 -0300, jelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Gabriella,
thanks for pointing me in the right direction:
Twice in a week... I'll have to revise my own masculinity...
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meaning.
It means something in regular expressions, namely, the end of the
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I don't know enough about
Windows console programs to understand.
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it? If it's already been enabled, no harm will come from the
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On 2007-07-30, André [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 30, 9:39 am, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand the qualification, at runtime, you're
making. What's wrong with just importing what you want and
using it? If it's already been enabled, no harm will come from
the import
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advocating the use of higher-order functions. But Java's
verbosity and lack of free functions are the only irritating
obstacle to using them just as you would in Python. I'm not sure
what the author was getting at, exactly.
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the non-working code by one level, but
with a good editor that's a snap.
Python will still parse the following lines (it must be valid
Python syntax), but the resulting parse tree won't be executed.
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because it
depends on internal details of my implementation.
Is there a doctest feature that will allow me to stipulate that
one thing in a result is arbitrary, but identical to another
thing in that result?
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On 2007-08-01, Cameron Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-08-01, beginner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks everyone for responding. It doesn't look like python has
it. I would definitely miss it. As Steve said, the nice
for your class
may make that problem disappear.
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Neil Cerutti wrote:
On 2007-08-01, Cameron Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .
I want to re-emphasize the triple-quote it tip mentioned
earlier in this thread. I think the original questioner
will find this quite satisfying, if I
), a)
True
reduce(is_consecutive(0), a + [1,2])
False
It's been a while since I had to be in the STL mindset, so I
couldn't think of a better example.
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On 2007-08-02, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-08-02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't personally use __call__ methods in my classes, but I
have encountered it every now and then here at work in code
written by other people. The other day I replaced __call__
of it, and with the
knowledge that somebody else will feel less flip at the time and
probably provide real help.
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map(functools.partial(bisect.bisect_left, sortedList), singleList)
return map(rankList, nestedList)
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it needing three
fewer characters to type?
It's a great boon to the authors of auto-indenting text editors.
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value for every
case.
In some languages, it's even of more limited, e.g., C, which can
switch on only integers.
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With Python, you won't find anything like that. Python is too
huge.
So get used to the idea of needing several books. ;)
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On 2007-08-04, Michael Tobis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 4, 9:32 am, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
With Python, you won't find anything like that. Python is too
huge.
That's silly. Python is small in the sense that C is small.
What way of measuring makes that true?
The Python
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On 2007-08-06, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-08-06, Paul Rubin http wrote:
Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For instance, if you never use print statements in your code,
you won't notice that print is becoming a function. If you
do, you'll have to make appropriate
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On 2007-08-06, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-08-06, Lee Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
def f(x, y=None):
if y is None: y = []
y.append(x)
return y
f(f(23))
[23, 42]
Sorry. That should've been:
f(42, f(23))
[23, 42]
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a function. It can't be defined at one time, and
undefined at another time, as can happen in more full-featured
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On 2007-08-06, Lee Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 6, 6:25 am, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because when the function is called, the line
if y is None: y = []
is executed, binding a brand new empty list to y. This
rebinding happens every time the function is called
[] is []
False
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as indentation characters, but now I can't turn up a
link for it...
Tabs are going to be banned in the C Style Guide for Python 3000
source code, but they aren't being banned from Python 3000 code.
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with calling the
function isn't wise, but that's a sketch anyhow.
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. If omitted or zero, all occurrences will be
replaced. Empty matches for the pattern are replaced only
when not adjacent to a previous match, so sub('x*', '-',
'abc') returns '-a-b-c-'.
In other words, the fourth argument to sub is count, not a set of
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On 2007-08-07, Rohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to write a script which does the following job.
Take column1 and 7 from 10 different excel sheets and pasthe
them into a new excel worksheet. Any ideas on how to do it
Get the xlrd Python module. It'll come in handy.
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On Aug 6, 6:49 am, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incidentally, from the second link I find it shocking that the
keyword parameter file shadows a builtin. It seems to
endorse a bad practice.
I believe that the file builtin has been
, depending on the terminology.
I tend to think the world would be a better place if he'd been
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On 2007-08-08, Istvan Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 8, 2:00 pm, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought, in fact, that open was on more shaky ground. ;)
yeah, that too ...
OK, I had misremembered. The current docs say that open is
preferred, and that file should rather
the
file type itself is getting axed.
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(d, Gary, 23)
multidict_add(d, Adam, 25)
d[Gary]
[50, 23]
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the choir. --Church Bulletin Blooper
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Newgroups are a poor substitute for the docs. For one thing,
newsgroups sometimes contain cranky people who say, RTFM! The
docs will never do that.
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